My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing - Family (3) - Nairaland
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| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by Peculariconcept(m): 3:40pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Sincerely this is a terrible situation we find ourselves. In my last apartment, my monthly electricity bill is around N1,500 after sharing with about 6 other flatmates. i never knew i was enjoying until i relocated 2 months ago. The 3 Bedroom i rented had been vacant in the last 6 months, PCHN office was duly notified yet the crazy bill of btw N20k and N22K was monthly delivered to the flat. it was after i packed in i was informed the earlier occupant actually left the very comfortable apartment 1. because of lack of corporation to pay electricity bills. 2. Huge and unreasonable estimated bill. Effort by the landlady to sort the electricity menace was abortive. She earlier paid N60k each to a senior PHCN official to provide Pre-paid meter for each flats (No meter, no money). Months later she consulted another PHCN consultant to help out. In an attempt to help, the consultant ended up causing more wahala. He opened different account for each flats, after collecting another money to supply Pre-paid meters. The whole building was paying less than N20k b4, but immediately the new accounts were opened each flat if billed between N20k & N22K monthly. This is absolutely unacceptable. We're in talk via our lawyer with Eked to get the accounts closed and wiped out. The most annoying thing is that they come almost every week now to disconnect electricity with the hope of extorting us of about N3k weekly. I'm running out of patience already. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by Emmerlee(op): 3:41pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
goryorhal:How please? What are CDA committees by the way? Can you explain a bit better? Thank you! |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by FX(m): 3:49pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
doctokwus:It is only a stop gap measure until you get connected back with a prepaid meter |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Emmerlee:bring nepa to disconnect ur lyt before u start any process of sorting out this issue. u already made a huge mistake of lying this useless bill for long now. The 30k u paid can give u good electricity supply for 30 days @ N1000 per day |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by pedrilo: 3:54pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
why is our govt not concerned about this issue? buhari this corruption from DISCOS is affecting the masses very directly start fighting ur corruption from here! |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by much123456(m): 3:56pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Though been using prepaid for the past 3 year. But my advise is that , you and other tenant in the bulding should write to them that they should close your accout and leave one person out and you all can been using that one line you left out and share the bill |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by mccoyelectric: 4:01pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Me too oh... I stay in opic est agbara... I paid 100k for 3phase prepaid meter... They even give a room and parlour here 40k... But sha our light no dey blink I even think rat has turned my gen to 3bedroom flat... I no fit remember wen last I buy fuel but dem no gree give us prepaid meter |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by doctokwus: 4:03pm On Jun 20, 2018*. Modified: 6:18pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
FX:If you have ever been on generator for just minimum of 3months alone,you would appreciate what it means to have electricity from the national grid. If not for how ineffective our NASS is,and how fractionated,ineffective and fraudulent our labor unionS have become,a single legislation by NASS or a nationwide strike by the organised labor,would have seen the immediate provision of pre paid meters. For God's sake,even during the days of our parents with NEPA,each house had a metre and I used to see NEPA officials come dutifully each month to read the metre and send appropriate bills. In the bills then you would clearly see what each metred building consumed,the billing rate,even penalty for late payment,all stated clearly. But here in 2018 with rapid advancement in technology Nigerian households are still being charged based on estimated billing! Instead of progressing,we are regressing as a country!! I would continue saying it with no apologies to anyone:if when the GSM telephony was brought to Nigeria by Obasanjo and Nigerian run companies had been given the exclusive rights to deploy the technology,by today 2018,we would still still not been able to make successful intra-state calls!!!The bills too would have been estimated,not even per minute,talkless of per second!!!! |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by sexylabo(m): 4:05pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
ikeja electric give me a bill of 11k to 12k every month i only pay at most 5k...i stay in irawo.....we dont have a meter neither a prepaid...we use recklin wire and nepa bring estimate bill every month...you have to know your right as a citizen....it is illegal for nepa to bring estimate bill every month ...now i'm going to pay 4k |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by SEGAD: 4:05pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
much123456:They will not close the account, they will just suspend the account. I had similar experienced. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by Kylekent59: 4:13pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
President Buhari should use this as an opportunity to win the masses. He should go into the power sector and fish out those corrupt managers there. It is a fraud, some have electronic meter but they don't come to check and compute the amount but hence make use of estimation. This shouldn't be happening in this century. Let there be a protest concerning this and also on twitter, till the government hears us |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by Emmerlee(op): 4:16pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Teetopz:Bro, if you read my post you'd know I have done even more than this but nothing is coming out of it. My guess is that these bodies are no longer as strong as they used to be, as is the case with almost everything in Nigeria. Too bad! |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by upuphim(m): 4:19pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
You are not alone and I am really getting fed up Ikeja Disco, too. I tried fighting them over crazing bill to the point of even asking for disconnection. They then advised me to clear outstanding to enjoy a scheme for installation of prepaid meter within 21 days. The payment of outstanding balance of N150,000 was made in March, 2018 by me. Do you know that till date there's nothing done, yet their crazy bill keeps coming? Please how can we push for criminalisation of estimated billing that have passed second reading at the National Assembly which I believe is the way out of this finance sapping menace? |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by lorhema(f): 4:21pm On Jun 20, 2018*. Modified: 6:18pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
@Emmerlee, teetopz has laid out the way he got his meter. I did the same NERC route in 2006/7. After their intervention, I still had to push by going to the MD at Marina. His secretary directed me to the officer in charge who then directed me to get a form at the Ijora office. Got the form and was directed to their office at Bar Beach. I waited for over four hours to see the South Afrcan boss because they said he'd left the premises to attend a meeting. When the man returned he asked why I wanted a prepaid meter so bad when they were facing opposition to the meters even from their staff. I told him we wanted to pay for what we consumed and stop being ripped off via the estimated bills. The meter was installed the following day. It was a great relief not to have to go down to join the group around the Phcn officials demanding to see bills when they came around on their disconnection drives. When you count the cost of two trips to Nerc at Abuja and the stress of moving around Lagos, it wasn't easy but it was worth it. You must fight to get your due. They won't give it to you on a platter because they make a lot of money from estimated billing. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by SirLakes: 4:22pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
darthv:Gerrahia mehn....... Lazy you |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by CHARLOE(m): 4:28pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
FX:I'm in support. Nigerians are too docile n lazy to fight for their rights, always waiting for god to fight for them, people that shld serve u are oppressing u in broad daylight, yet u keep paying n grumbling n saying: 'only god can help us', really? : from phcn to FRSC (drivers license) to immigration (int passport), they're all criminals. Call their bluff n refuse to pay outrageous fees, insist on paying d official fees/bills n watch them do d right thing. you'll only suffer a little while n they'd b forced to do d right thing. problem is, Nigerians don't want to suffer/stress themselves even for a short while. (fela was right) |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by Dohak(m): 4:31pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Don't relent. Continue to pursue the matter at nerc and move further to petitioning consumer protection council. You will definitely get redress. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by boyjo: 4:32pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Emmerlee:Hello dear, *clears throat* This same thing you have suffered is what I previously suffered. I knew what to do right from the onset but my Mama no just gree let me do am until the day they increased our bill to 30k! We managed to raise 11k and paid it. We then paid re-connection fee of N2500. They connected us back the next day and came the day after to disconnect us! We paid another N2500 for re-connection; they reconnected us the next day and disconnected us two days after! Even my Mama know sef say I don try as I vowed we would never have anything to do with "Nepa"! This all happened in January. You will not believe that this "Nepa" guys brought a fresh 30k bill at the end of February even while our disconnected wire was still on the ground! I am waiting for them to come and collect the money o. They have not brought any bill from then till now. My neighbours who live in a three bedroom were paying just 3k as bill before they switched to prepaid meters. We use gen now. We switch on gen at nights or whenever feel we need light to charge phone. My braadah peace of mind don come. I spend less than 5k, 4k sef on fuel monthly. How? We are hardly ever in the house except at night when all you want to do is crash after the hectic traffic! I am saying that from January ending till now, I have been running gen and I have known Peace, Joy, Progress and more money for food. I am so going solar. I saw one Inlaks Energy advert here on Nairaland. I shall be their customer!!! Do you know Nepa children attend wonderful schools while they suck your blood? When someone was pointing out the Nepa Agent`s child school and the fact that most of them are Landlords, I weak! By the time we all disconnect from the National grid, I will see what becomes of them. We need to start a trend like #EndSars #GiveUsPrepaidMeters |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by Gad2011: 4:34pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
I have the same issues, but I have reported them to cpc (customer protection council ) they have petition them,atlease I can see the green light. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by Nobody: 4:37pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Kindly send details of your complaint to contact@cpc.gov.ng Emmerlee:someone just tabled your matter om twitter. click on the attached link. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by Nnamdiojukwu: 4:37pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Sijo01:I thought AEDC is the worst nightmare. Well,the good news is the bill to criminalise estimated billing has passed the second reading,I also read that Disco is threatening to go on mass disconnection should the law comes to effect. According to them,they cannot afford to supply meter to everyone, and also meter cost between 70k and above. The bill is sponsored by Gbajamila from Lagos state. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by Emmerlee(op): 4:46pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Teetopz:Seen, thank you. Will do so soon! |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by maasoap(m): 5:04pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
bigfish3k:Write them to disconnect and stop the billing before it becomes to much. You will get prepaid meter from these same people between 50k and 70k without having to wait long. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by HoodBillionaire: 5:09pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
baba pay them wat u have if na 3k naso dem dey nack me bill 35k i dey pay 3k God punish them |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by maasoap(m): 5:13pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
upuphim:You made mistake by paying. The process is like this: you would pay for the prepaid meter which was around 25k official cost back then (unofficial could be 30k or 40k). Then, before installation, they would ask you if you wanted to pay up your accumulated debt upfront or in installments every month whenever you want to buy energy. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by peacengine(m): 5:28pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Teetopz:Thank u sir |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by duality(m): 5:50pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
pawesome:Do you climb the pole to input the recharge code? |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by JastSiryin(m): 6:18pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
CrazyRichNig:Una buy them coke? that was hilarious man lol |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by ayoelegs: 6:19pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
[quote author=FX post=68659600]Let's form a Registered Union and sue their ass to court. Union of residents Using Estimated Billing. Who is with me on this . I want to start going to court now. We must sue IKEDC and EKDC. I am with you on this...we need pressure group using legal means to get them to do what is right. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by P833: 6:21pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Hello Op, Sorry for the inconvenience. My advice might be a bit long but if you want to bring EKEDP to their knees, I hope my epistle will help you and ensure that EKEDP actually refunds all the money they have collected from you. I am assuming that you are not a regular defaulter. If I may ask, do you have a post-paid meter in place and is it currently working? If yes, did EKEDP officials ever take readings from the meter before they put you on estimated billing and did these readings ever reflect on the bills they brought to you? If yes again, please check your bill to get the last actual reading (LAR) and the date of the last actual reading. I suspect that your LAR will be on the January 2016 bill, since that was the lowest amount you mentioned. Please compare the LAR to today’s reading, to know if your meter is actually working. You can also calculate how much electricity you have used since the LAR and how much you should have overpaid since then (I assume you are on RS2 and should be paying 24.00 per Kwh). If your post-paid meter is working fine, PLEASE CALCULATE HOW MUCH YOU ARE OWED, you are entitled to a refund from EKEDP. I am emphasising on the meter because EKEDP officials might want to use it against you when NERC calls you for a hearing. They usually want to justify their exorbitant bills by claiming that customers with post-paid meters have “bypassed” them. In some cases, they will even claim that there is no meter in your house. If it is possible, ENSURE THAT NO EKEDP OFFICIAL TOUCHES YOUR POST-PAID METER because once your petition is with NERC, they will try as much as possible to tamper with your meter. When you are done with your meter readings and taking the LAR, please write a letter to the NERC’s Eko Forum office at Odunlami Street. Ensure that the letter lists all your complaints, LAR and the amount of money you are being owed by EKEDP. Attach copies of all the bills you have paid from January 2016 till date, including the one you are disputing currently. Also attach copies of all the emails you have sent to EKEDP and NERC till date, so that they will know your complaint did not originate recently. You can take pictures of the meter readings and also attach to your complaint to prove that your meter is working. Take three copies of the letter and documents along with you, NERC will need that much. After NERC sends your complaint to EKEDP, EKEDP will respond and NERC will send their response to you. If you are not satisfied with EKEDP’s response, you will write back to NERC to inform them of same. NERC will then call you for a hearing. Until NERC rules on your complaint, you should not pay a dime to EKEDP because they are the ones owing you money as you will state in your petition. The whole process could take up to 3 months but dem no born EKEDP well to disconnect your light once your complaint is with NERC, even if it is there for one year. Marketers will come to your house to beg you to withdraw your petition and they will even offer you a prepaid meter, but please stay strong and collect your money before you cave in to their demands. I wish you all the best and hope this will solve the problem. |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by bigfish3k: 6:54pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
maasoap:thanks a lot i have tried getting a prepaid meter but they are still their usual self, telling me its not available i have already written a complaint letter, they acknowledged it as usual, still waiting for their response. its pathetic the kind of wickedness we inflict on ourselves in this country, a country which minimum wage is N18,000 receiving a domestic light bill of N30,000 per month. my friends with prepaid meter don't spend more than N2,000 per month in recharging it. i believe The electricity companies or DISCO's are deliberately hoarding the meters because it keeps them in check and protects u from their them and also protects them from u but it seems they dont know. But dont they know that it will eliminate the hazard of carrying ladder up and down and also eliminate the electrocution of those their casual staff on our poles. it seems we are just striving very hard day by day to remain a third world country i suggest that the govt should allow an open market for the sale of prepaid meters, let the DISCO's come and do the registration of the meters at our homes because they have totally abused the privileges and advantages given to them by the govt even if they must estimate our bills, must it be so WILD? Please we need govt protection on this metering cheating by the DISCO's |
| Re: My Experience - The Scourge Of PHCN Estimated Billing by samlake(m): 6:56pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Go get a good charm and put it around the pole,by the time they see the effect they will stop coming! Wicked people... |
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