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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by blackaxe78: 12:15pm On Jun 27, 2018
chloride6:


Dont you use a TV in your home too?

Is the TV produced in Nigeria?

Let the Fulani ranch in the North and move the cows by road here.


NOBODY likes the Fulani.

How long will it take you people to understand that?


grin grin grin Sigh

On daily Basis? By flight?

Hear yourself, Ranch in the North and take to the South.

Lets imagine that is possible. Wont still they need a Ranch to put there flocks pending when they will be slaughtered.

People like Fulanis. You cant speak for everyone due to your own personal feelings.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by PcashMojo(m): 12:16pm On Jun 27, 2018
GavelSlam:
Afenifere should realise this is a situation which nobody would win.

To think we can wish away this situation is naive.

Whether Buhari is in power or not this problem would persist.

The longer it lingers the more lives would be lost.

Well your comment seen debatable,but I would rather go ahead and ask you this one question,what them are you suggesting to bring a balance,and end this problem?,lets hear your suggestions.

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by tiredoflife(m): 12:19pm On Jun 27, 2018
blackaxe78:



Dont you consume beef?

Its a fact a tribe controls that trade and we must face facts instead of Ethno-religious excuses.

Proffer solutions and not just rejecting.

In as much you try to shy away from the fact staring at you, you wont still be able to give better solutions other than ranching.

Please dont tell me we start putting beef on railines from the North to other parts of the country, Or your people have enough cattle to invest in. And dont tell me you can boycott beef.


Give solutions that will be gain to everybody.

If you want to discuss logically, am with you


We eat beef
Kano state has given them a whole forest is that solution not enough
Must they come to rare it in our lands
So much for solutions u won't take unless its the solution of our land

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by BiafraIShere(m): 12:22pm On Jun 27, 2018
kennykg:
Who's we
How can some group of selfish greedy men say they are speaking for us.
Am a Yoruba and I don't know them neither can I say they asked for my option before coming out to make a statement

Did they make any statement when Lagos land use tax was increased by 400,%?

Did they make any statement when badoo was terrorizing yorubas (Nigerians ) in ikorodu,Lagos ?

Did they make any statements when Lagos was filled with refuses ?

Did they make any statements when Yorubas( Nigerian's) workers are still been owed salaries from months ?

Did they make any statements when Yoruba (Nigerians ) pensioners die while fighting ,protesting, parading courts to get their entitled pensions?

Did they make any statements to urge or condem any your Yoruba state governor for not providing basic amenities to its citizens ?

Now they are coming out to say what ?

I just hope Nigerians soon realized this people don't speak for us but themselves.

We need to speak for ourselves, follow what's right ,act the right way,elect the right people and talk more of peace, development and solutions

Just negodu what this dude just wrote, he only succeeded in condemning the messenger, but has nothing to say about the message despite how serious the issue is. I really pity you if indeed you are truly yoruba. It is already getting late yet you still blind.

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by chloride6: 12:23pm On Jun 27, 2018
blackaxe78:


grin grin grin Sigh

On daily Basis? By flight?

Hear yourself, Ranch in the North and take to the South.

Lets imagine that is possible. Wont still they need a Ranch to put there flocks pending when they will be slaughtered.

People like Fulanis. You cant speak for everyone due to your own personal feelings.


They are make do with sleeping in the abattoir pending when they are slaughtered.

Again, NOBODY likes the Fulani.

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Reference(m): 12:31pm On Jun 27, 2018
The owners of Nigeria resist restructuring, but the more they press their agenda and compress the rest of Nigeria, the nearer and surer the flash point will be reached when there will be no Obasanjo to provide a release valve. When that man eventually goes it will be the north squaring up against the south face to face.

In years gone by this government said corruption was the biggest problem facing Nigeria, I said 'you must be kidding'. Today Mr. President is trotting in a hurry to his plane in the billowing rain not because Mr. X stole Y naira but because the country he is supposed to preside over is quaking and collapsing at its centre. We said this time without number, they did not listen. Is he sending Magu with his red tunic boys, no. The money they are recovering is being wasted in placating, relief, IDP camps, reconstruction, more arms and ammunition, helicopter gunships and endless medical bills, so what is the point really...what is really important to us all....the state of the nation is....

Mr. President, time is ticking towards an inevitability, restructure Nigeria now.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by blackaxe78: 12:33pm On Jun 27, 2018
chloride6:


[b]They are make do with sleeping in the abattoi[/b]r pending when they are slaughtered.

Again, NOBODY likes the Fulani.




Are you reading what you are composing?
Do you have an idea how many cattle's are slaughtered everyday around the country.

Wont the cattle's feed and excrete which in the long run will turn it to a ranch you never wanted.

An tell me an Abattoir in Nigeria that has the capacity to hold 500 cows .

Your points are not logical.

I would have agreed with you if you said they were brought in by flight everyday grin grin grin


Read about New Zealand and ranching.

Please what does it take to set up a ranch. Its has more gains than loss.

State IGR increases
Herdsmen can be registered and accounted for at will through administered Database which could identify criminal ones
Clashes with farmers will completely stop
Animal Disease control and tagging
Jobs will be created
Animal rustling will be a thing of the past.
Industries which make use of by-products will concentrate around ranches which will bring about less cost of production


Please tell me one disadvantage? Out side the "Our land syndrome"

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by jahsharon: 12:34pm On Jun 27, 2018
lilfreezy:
The sophisticated ones should grant them lands na. Shebi na una they form alliance with tyrant. Once they've settled in with their fulani guitar, they will start slitting your throats When they receive instructions from their shoulder radio grin


But they are also killing your people in the yEast nah, you chest beaters.

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by iamjavadem(m): 12:36pm On Jun 27, 2018
Do u understand English?
TheAngry1:


Shut up silly! He asked you a valid question, how much were you paid to defend senselessness?
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Amumaigwe: 12:36pm On Jun 27, 2018
GavelSlam:
Afenifere should realise this is a situation which nobody would win.

To think we can wish away this situation is naive.

Whether Buhari is in power or not this problem would persist.

The longer it lingers the more lives would be lost.


And the solution is to bring gazetted Fulani settlements close to the southwest neighborhoods. While they are mere nomads, the wreck this magnitude of havoc in their host communities, how much more when they are made indigenes through this cattle ranch smokescreen. Plateau and Benue sounded this pacifist in the time past, but see their miserable lives now. Our leaders are not even offering any sincere sympathy because they understand and perhaps approve of their mission. Learn from their experience bro.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Simbrixton(m): 12:37pm On Jun 27, 2018
Afenifere give us guns
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by chloride6: 12:40pm On Jun 27, 2018
blackaxe78:


Are you reading what you are composing?
Do you have an idea how many cattle's are slaughtered everyday around the country.

Wont the cattle's feed and excrete which in the long run will turn it to a ranch you never wanted.

An tell me an Abattoir in Nigeria that has the capacity to hold 500 cows .

Your points are not logical.

I would have agreed with you if you said they were brought in by flight everyday grin grin grin


Read about New Zealand and ranching.

Please what does it take to set up a ranch. Its has more gains than loss.

State IGR increases
Herdsmen can be registered and accounted for at will through administered Database which could identify criminal ones
Clashes with farmers will completely stop
Animal Disease control and tagging
Jobs will be created
Animal rustling will be a thing of the past.
Industries which make use of by-products will concentrate around ranches which will bring about less cost of production


Please tell me one disadvantage? Out side the "Our land syndrome"

Our land syndrome is the reason we have an army.

Our land syndrome is the reason we took Cameroon to court over bakassi

Our land syndrome is everything.

Nobody wants to wake up 50 years later and find that the Fulani has taken over his or her land with sinister moves.

I dont know why the Fulani must graze or ranch on other people land.

The Core North has always prided itself in its land mass.

Let it create economic value with its pride.

The land in the Core North is big enough for them to ranch.

Everybody is vary of the cunny Fulani

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by TheAngry1: 12:43pm On Jun 27, 2018
iamjavadem:
Do u understand English?


Just fvvvvvk off! English teacher.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Techfield(m): 12:44pm On Jun 27, 2018
#Deport fulani herdsmen Buhari lazy president
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by MENELIK11: 12:46pm On Jun 27, 2018
BAILMONEY:
TINUBU IS A YORUBA MUSLIM BRUH, SO HE MUST DEFEND THE KALIFA (CALIPHATE)

Osu Jew, stop taking codeine, rather concentrate on developing the erosion ravaged enclave of yours.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Amumaigwe: 12:49pm On Jun 27, 2018
blackaxe78:



Dont you consume beef?

Its a fact a tribe controls that trade and we must face facts instead of Ethno-religious excuses.

Proffer solutions and not just rejecting.

In as much you try to shy away from the fact staring at you, you wont still be able to give better solutions other than ranching.

Please dont tell me we start putting beef on railines from the North to other parts of the country, Or your people have enough cattle to invest in. And dont tell me you can boycott beef.


Give solutions that will be gain to everybody.

If you want to discuss logically, am with you

Don't tell you this, don't tell you that. If some southerners chose to stop eating Fulani beef, how does it bother you? Is the protein they chose to forgo meant for your own system? I will rather shun beef forever than being killed because I chose to consort with the beef sellers because of appetite for meat.

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Nobody: 12:53pm On Jun 27, 2018
debaj10:
who una b?

is d land ur propati?!

sai baba jor!

angry
let them try it and you'd know we're not cowards. What happened to your people in ile Ife 2 yrs ago would be a tip of the iceberg. Tinubu himself won't be able to confront the anger of our people.

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by middlebelter(m): 1:18pm On Jun 27, 2018
irepnaija4eva:
We on other side of the Niger (ipob yoots and Niger delta) support you on this...
Honestly I really pity the NothernChristians.

Modified... Where the hell is Gowon angry angry
Where is Danjuma..I just hope they've begged for forgiveness cos this calamity they brought on their people will continue to hurt them even to the grave.
It will even get worst as the year goes by.
Damn..they are even on the brink of extinction.
Why the bare silence of Paul unogo Has he lost his voice?

You see brethren one thing with kamar is that...
It NEVER FORGETS..

Thank your comment is not in good spirit. Killing of any human being is not good and unacceptable. Yes, the Civil War constitutee one of the darkest spot of our history. We should learn to forgive and move on especially when we consider that the people currently being killed were never part of the country civil war error.

If Christians failed to unite, don't ever think you are safe in the SS or SE. The Fulanis killings are more sophisticated in politics and wild life.

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by marvinsync(m): 1:34pm On Jun 27, 2018
blackaxe78:


grin grin grin Sigh

On daily Basis? By flight?

Hear yourself, Ranch in the North and take to the South.

Lets imagine that is possible. Wont still they need a Ranch to put there flocks pending when they will be slaughtered.

People like Fulanis. You cant speak for everyone due to your own personal feelings.



he is right no one likes the Fulani right now due to all the killings
they have ruined their image badly


now no one is saying they shouldn't have ranches , there are ranches everywhere already what we are saying is why does the government have to get involved like give them land ,do u know what that means that means a piece of land will be owned buy the Fulani not C of O ( certificate of occupation) ie undisputable ownership forever and ever ( as long as Nigeria exists) they can't be chased out !!!
that's too much power to give to people that are killing people all over Nigeria right now ,it's like adding trying to put out fire with gasoline.

and another thing the cattle rearing is a private business so why should the government have to get involved ? can't they buy ranches themselves? are they the only people doing business that is contributing to Nigeria ?

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by kennykg(m): 1:35pm On Jun 27, 2018
blackaxe78:


Are you reading what you are composing?
Do you have an idea how many cattle's are slaughtered everyday around the country.

Wont the cattle's feed and excrete which in the long run will turn it to a ranch you never wanted.

An tell me an Abattoir in Nigeria that has the capacity to hold 500 cows .

Your points are not logical.

I would have agreed with you if you said they were brought in by flight everyday grin grin grin


Read about New Zealand and ranching.

Please what does it take to set up a ranch. Its has more gains than loss.

State IGR increases
Herdsmen can be registered and accounted for at will through administered Database which could identify criminal ones
Clashes with farmers will completely stop
Animal Disease control and tagging
Jobs will be created
Animal rustling will be a thing of the past.
Industries which make use of by-products will concentrate around ranches which will bring about less cost of production


Please tell me one disadvantage? Out side the "Our land syndrome"
You just posted what I was about to say.. Do they know how much revenue each of these states would generate , the side hustle/ employment it would generate , they could also learn and de-monopolize the business , the leather they have over there would be shared everywhere , easy access to cow dung manure ,so much advantages
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by marvinsync(m): 1:41pm On Jun 27, 2018
blackaxe78:


Are you reading what you are composing?
Do you have an idea how many cattle's are slaughtered everyday around the country.

Wont the cattle's feed and excrete which in the long run will turn it to a ranch you never wanted.

An tell me an Abattoir in Nigeria that has the capacity to hold 500 cows .

Your points are not logical.

I would have agreed with you if you said they were brought in by flight everyday grin grin grin


Read about New Zealand and ranching.

Please what does it take to set up a ranch. Its has more gains than loss.

State IGR increases
Herdsmen can be registered and accounted for at will through administered Database which could identify criminal ones
Clashes with farmers will completely stop
Animal Disease control and tagging
Jobs will be created
Animal rustling will be a thing of the past.
Industries which make use of by-products will concentrate around ranches which will bring about less cost of production


Please tell me one disadvantage? Out side the "Our land syndrome"



the disadvantage is that this is Nigeria so all those advantages u listed is story when they are the ones in power

and let me ask u do u know who really owns those cows? are they the ones running around with sticks
if u don't have capital to start a cattle rearing business then don't start

this is a business u provide ur capital urself( maybe with loan which u still pay back) and earn the profit urself leave the the government and the whole state of Nigeria out of it
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by addey44: 1:42pm On Jun 27, 2018
diebuhari1:
Let us hear from Yoruba Muslims.
Why should the Yoruba Muslim position be different from that of Afenifere that is a Pan Yoruba umbrella body?
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by marvinsync(m): 1:54pm On Jun 27, 2018
kennykg:

You just posted what I was about to say.. Do they know how much revenue each of these states would generate , the side hustle/ employment it would generate , they could also learn and de-monopolize the business , the leather they have over there would be shared everywhere , easy access to cow dung manure ,so much advantages


yeah I'm sure the benue farmers are very excited about their easy access to cow sh!t

listen if the Fulani were not killing anyhow maybe u might have a point but when we see them killing like this and no one is brought to book and ur telling us make access to us easier and expect us to agree , are u mad?

there is no advantage cause I'd rather the killings remain in the north central than to hear that 59 people where killed in my village in the SE
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by kennykg(m): 1:57pm On Jun 27, 2018
resurgent2019:


I am a Yoruba man and afenifere speaks for me and millions of Yorubas. Do you want the Fulanis to claim our lands and kill us like they are doing in the middle belt?

Kilo ma’n se eyin imale yii gan sef? Wahala yin ti poju jareeee. You are a disgrace if you are really yoruba.

Omo ako igba!
Egbon
This is herdsmen have been in this business for a long time how many times have these attacks occured?

How many herdsmen can match the Yoruba's here are they more than us

Ema je ki wan fi bread ko yin ni obe lo.

What immediate diplomatic solutions do you see available?

Wise people didn't just say keep your "enemies" closer cause they like talking
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by statusquoante: 2:07pm On Jun 27, 2018
ipoblogic:


Pained?
It is hard for me to believe the Yoruba is saying this..

This was exactly Odumegwu Ojukwu saw more than 50 years ago.
And what did the Yoruba do?

Anyway, what can i say?

Good Morning, Yoruba

Shut up!
Igbos put us in this mess courtesy Ironsi. You wanted to dominate the whole country but found yourself at the very bottom in the end.
What a shame!!
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by kennykg(m): 2:07pm On Jun 27, 2018
marvinsync:



yeah I'm sure the benue farmers are very excited about their easy access to cow sh!t

listen if the Fulani were not killing anyhow maybe u might have a point but when we see them killing like this and no one is brought to book and ur telling us make access to us easier and expect us to agree , are u mad?

there is no advantage cause I'd rather the killings remain in the north central than to hear that 59 people where killed in my village in the SE

No one is happy about our brothers n sister been killed but this is the best solution for now .
If you say the killings should remain in north what would happen when the north is wiped out and the advance to neighboring states ? Its just ignoring the fire that's burning 5 houses from yours weather you like it or not it's would get to you soon and you have no where to run to.

Yes we all know there is a conspiracy theory behind it , some of the real killer herdsmen won't even smell the corner of justice but the only way you defeat such is collectively joining hands to find a solution then the fire doesn't pass the 4th house
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Nobody: 2:23pm On Jun 27, 2018
What about the Oyo State Governor Ajimobi who has promised the Federal Government Land in Oyo state. All because he is a Muslim and the Miyetti Allah group are Muslims.

I always say this The greatest Calamity that has ever befallen the world after creation is Islam.

You can cry and commit suicide over my statement I care not.

Take away Islam from the world and instantly the world would be at peace.

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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Nobody: 2:25pm On Jun 27, 2018
spot-on! God & devil must punish any BASTARD that cedes any part of yoruba land to those demons!


#AWON ONIJEKUJE AGBALAGBA!
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Nobody: 2:35pm On Jun 27, 2018
diebuhari1:
Let us hear from Yoruba Muslims.

We would like to hear from Igbo Moslems first. What's your take on that statement?
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Nobody: 2:36pm On Jun 27, 2018
Ziggylady:



Have they heard from yoruba muslims before making such pronouncements??...cos last time i checked,yorumuslims call Afenifere 'PDP' stooges

Dumb post.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Toxydon147: 2:38pm On Jun 27, 2018
nwakibie3:
The pan-Yoruba socio-cultural organisation, Afenifere, has rejected Federal Government’s proposed cattle ranches in the six states of the Southwest and other Yoruba-speaking states.

It described the plan as an imperialist agenda to create Federal cattle territories across Nigeria.

At its monthly meeting yesterday at the home of its leader, Chief Reuben Fasoranti, in Akure, the Ondo State capital, Afenifere cautioned the Federal Government against imposing any harsh policy on the nation.

In a communique issued at the end of the meeting and read by its National Publicity Secretary, Yinka Odumakin, the organisation said cattle-rearing is a private business.

It insisted that the government had no business getting involved, if there was no sinister.

The group insisted that “no plot of land in Yoruba land will be available for such cattle ranch and no governor should cede any land for such”.

Afenifere said: “We are devastated by the genocide that took place in Plateau State on Sunday in which over 200 deaths occurred, by eyewitnesses accounts, but the police admitted 100.

“These wanton killings and official irresponsibility portrays Nigeria as a barbaric entity. We, the Yoruba, are pained living in the same space with the bestial elements who kill innocent people in cruel manner.

“The images of children killed mercilessly with open skulls make anyone with human blood flowing in his or her veins to shrink. We are further distressed that the response of President Muhammadu Buhari to the murder of hundreds of our citizens did not attract a word of sympathy or regret.

“It is very infuriating that the President’s response and that of Miyetti Allah appeared to have been authored from the same laptop. The Chairman of the North Central zone of Miyetti Allah, Danladi Ciroma, said the attacks were a retaliation for the loss of 300 cows…”


http://thenationonlineng.net/we-wont-tolerate-cattle-ranches-in-southwest-says-afenifere/

The northerners should first of all graze in their vast land before looking to take other states.

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