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| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by Toks2008(m): 11:27am On Jun 28, 2018 |
Fabjulia:Done and I wish you success. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by ccruns: 11:27am On Jun 28, 2018 |
I never knew that someone or some people are just as dismayed as myself over the issue of estimated billing. Indeed, the greaest fraud in Nigeria today is the extortion by DISCOS in the name of estimation of billings. That simply explain why we have never improved in Power generation capacity. Thanks to God that our honourable members have identify seriously with us on this suffering and smiling dilemma. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by positivethought: 11:30am On Jun 28, 2018 |
OgaGist:The issue of arbitrary estimated billing can still be corrected with the use of the old meters, it's just a question of encasing the meter with strong metal sheets with locks, a small glass space for reading,the whole construction should be in a way that will make it impossible for disconnection n reconnection of the feeder cables from outside simple, the problem had been the issue of illegal connection by passing the meter, we are just creating avenues for exploitation with all these unnecessary attempt to mordenise when a very simple technical idea would have been effective. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by SheikhMuniru(m): 11:30am On Jun 28, 2018 |
LET US GO BACK TO NEPA Chikena, PHCN, DISCO, IBEDC, ETC ARE ALL FAILURES |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by rejoice4eva(m): 11:33am On Jun 28, 2018 |
Kylekent59:Are you sure? even now they are not shouting 'change' but progress? |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by mikeuz(m): 11:49am On Jun 28, 2018 |
This is a petition, against estimated bill.just sign it, it’s not too late. This reps can talk, and soon forget this, we must put pressure on them. You can’t keep complaining and do nothing. https://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stop-estimated-power-bill-in-nigeria.html |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by deolu2000(m): 11:50am On Jun 28, 2018 |
If only we can progress beyond the Era of mere talking and no action then we shall see results but the DISCOs know that NERC and FMPWH are mere toothless lions so they won't even bother themselves after all money has changed hands and the COYS are owned by the cronies of these top guys in government . so it is a long and complicated issue |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by sekzy99(m): 11:51am On Jun 28, 2018 |
Bollocks |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by HoodBillionaire: 11:56am On Jun 28, 2018 |
my bill now is 55k i use 1hp ac i must write these emails down im tired of d fraud from 3k to 28k monthly bill johnime: |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by forgiveness: 12:01pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
johnime:Copy |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by BlackMbakara1(m): 12:03pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Estimated billings that will rake in Billions for the "fraudulent Discos" and NERC get's paltry N134.1m as fines...who is fooling who? |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by 1stdammy: 12:03pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
johnime:Hmm, this is so inspiring, wish I can get a drafted format of how your petitions look like. I have a similar case... I reside in Oyo State though. my email: jacobdamilola4@gmail.com. Thanks |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by don4real18(m): 12:18pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Till date, NERC hasn't replied my email on the estimated billing |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by tempest01(m): 12:27pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
The government handed over a fraudulent company to them. Can the Reps just pass the laws without name calling and much noise? |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by 9gerian: 12:41pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
I commend this house committee on a good job so far. This shows we do have some intelligent minds in authority. NERC?! They are complicit and a big joke. How much is the fine of N134.1m compared to billions in fraudulent bills passed on customers for little to no supply of electricity. Do the math. If a disco receives a monthly electricity power of 1 billion, and rejects the rest citing mundane reasons of lack of capacity, but goes ahead to use half of that for black market supplies paid for by some industrial areas for an undocumented premium, which the industrial areas are too happy to pay to cut their diesel expense so that they at least make some profit. The remaining half is rationed amongst the regular domestic customers say at an average of 2-3 hours cumulative supply per day interchangeably (15 mins here, 5 mins there, 45 mins here etc). Then this same customers get billed for using from 500 to 5,000% of their maximum consumption of uninterrupted power supply. The resultant effect is that such a disco is able to issue a bill worth 5 billion Naira for the 1 billion Naira supply it received. Yeah! People will complain and approach the discos for rectification but they have a system in place to wear out the complainants and force them to pay something. Last last, they would have generated at least 2.5 billion in actual received cash revenue, and still have the helpless customers owing them for later payments. Cool So if you are this sharp businessman and the system allows you to do this to its people, will you issue prepaid meters?! Your guess is as good as mine. If I tell you my story with Ikeja Disco, then you would understand how far I had to research before I was able to understand their racket. Big fraud!!! OgaGist: |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by Nobody: 12:48pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
johnime:Just imagine how Nigeria will look like if 10% of its citizens are as dedicated as you are towards ensuring that the right thing is done as well as going the extra mile just like you did. I am a huge fan of determined and dedicated fellas like you and the reason why the thieves in Nigeria known as leaders keep messing around with Nigerians is because they know that most Nigerians are endemically docile by nature and don't hold them accountable for anything, they take advantage of their docility. The criminal political elites in Nigeria along with their chronies in every sector will keep on defrauding Nigerians as long as Nigerians continue to accept all the craps thrown at them by these devil incarnates parading as leaders. Reading your piece made my day. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by 9gerian: 12:51pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Kudos!!! A good template for dealing with the discos people. However, most people lack the capacity to pursue their case this steadfastly. For those of us that can; UREKA!!! johnime: |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by freeze001(f): 12:56pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
BlackMbakara1:After the paltry sum in fines, it is not refunded to the citizens that the DISCOS stole from in the first place so there's still no justice. End users/electricity customers are left cheated still. Besides is that really a fine or bribe for them to close their eyes? |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by precious1967(m): 1:03pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
They are armed bandits. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by wirinet(m): 1:11pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
9gerian:I really appreciate your analysis and I suspects that is why the Discos are vehemently opposed to pre paid meters and are ready to die for estimated billing system, but the question is IS IT LEGAL? Is it legal to bill transformers and then spreading the cost among everybody connected to that transformer? This is the explanation I get from Ikeja Distribution for justifying the estimated billing. It is like MTN billing a particular mast and spreading the cost on everyone making calls from that mast. I suggest electricity consumers should come together and challenge the legality of estimated billing. Since the executive and legislative are complicit in the scam called estimated billing, we should try and get reprieve from the judiciary. It seems discos are in business solely because of estimated billing. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by johnime: 1:19pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Google 1stdammy: |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by anigold(m): 1:25pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
OgaGist:so you mean after stealing hundred of billions from Nigerians |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by Charly68: 1:46pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Pass the law on time I beg,even when they have meters, they won't give it out until they collect bribes ..very stinking organization..the privatization did not yield any positive result as expected..they sold NEPA to clueless buyers ..no feasible improvement since ..they prefer to be issuing ghost bills to customers whether they supply energy or not .. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by godquality: 1:50pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
NERC defense is lame. You fined the discos 134m and we all know that they will end up transferring that to the consumers in form of further estimated billings. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by EvilMetahuman: 2:01pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
It is simple Pass a law that says no one should pay for electricity until they are properly metered. And no one is allowed to disconnect the power. Let's see if they won't do something about it. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by 9gerian: 2:02pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Truth be told, the problem is almost endemic in nature. With discos being allowed to do estimated billing, there can never be stable power supply because there is too much incentive from the govt to the discos. The problem became clearer after reports emerged that discos were actually rejecting supplies gencos citing lack of capacity of te transmission lines. But turn around to bill the people for supplies that can only be utilized if Nigeria generated about 100 times of what is being generated currently. Or how can continual increase in tarrifs and bills be justified in the face of worsening supplies? https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/news/poor-electricity-supply-may-persist-as-discos-reject-1000mw-daily/amp Then and there it became obvious that the discos had colluded with the regulators to quietly defraud the people. A mere audit would reveal that the discos were billing the people for what Nigeria could never generate, and still go ahead to reject most of the little that was actually generated. In a country like China, some top men would actually get a death sentence or severe jail terms for such monumental fraud, criminal negligence, collusion and sabotage of government efforts at economic reforms. Without uninterrupted power supply, economic reforms are just academic exercises. The discos will stop at nothing to continue reaping from their cash cow (estimated billing) by frustrating every attempt at improved power supply in Nigeria. The Nigerian leaders are too busy consolidating their hold on political power, while the hapless citizens are too busy dividing their selves along ethnic and religious lines; hence they continue being the losers- big time! The rest of us continue to educate the people about who the true enemies are!!! Something drastic needs to happen for Nigeria to cross this man made hurdle!!! wirinet: |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by Bhol28: 2:20pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Good that you know but we need action,order them to stop issuing those crazy bills with immediate effect and if they don't comply,sanction them. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by wirinet(m): 3:24pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Bhol28:Ordering them is not the problem, enforcing the real koko. How many times have government or NERC given orders and the disco simply ignore the order. Do you know that the discos was given order not to disconnect any customer without due process, but still the disco official carry ladder up and down at the middle of every month disconnecting people without notice. The government must be willing to enforce their orders or laws before the discos will sit up. |
| Re: Estimated Billing: You’re Fraudsters, Reps Accuse Discos by Demrich(m): 4:14pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Kylekent59:2015 to 2018 nothing has really improved about electricity. Estimated billing is the only problem in the power sector, it is a form of institutionalised corruption. Hence it can be said that this government is fighting corruption in the wrong places. The power industry is the only one that concerns all nigerians. Therefore there is need to be proactive, liberalise the sales of prepaid meters like GSM or better still the process can be subsidized with Abacha loots rather than sharing it among ghost citizens. Haba!!!!
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for later payments. Cool