Chiwude:
Adada is not a viable proposition and cannot sustain itself. In due time the south-east cacaus will settle for a viable one.

They have been agitating for a state for long time.

Anioma people will not like to join SE.

Chiwude:
The Igbo nation really missed Senator Francis Ellah, a lone voice in the wilderness of Rivers state. I’m afraid that the same thing that happened in Rivers state after the death of Francis Ellah is about to repeat itself in Aniomaland. The elders must stop fighting the battle for the younger ones, else they teach the younger ones to be mute when they are long dead. Obi of Owa and Asaba are aged now. Uwechue and Hannibal are dead. If care is not taking the pro-edoids may end up winning the battle and change future narratives as happened in Rivers state. Ikechukwu and his internet peacemakers should keep relaxing on their chairs. All is really well.

Asagba of Asaba married a Yoruba woman. I doubt his children would be that passionate about Igbo unity, so I'm already counting our loss there.
Though I learnt the Asagba title is not hereditary in Asaba.

Only those living in denial would deny the Igbophobia "winter" building up in Anioma right now.
Those of us in the know can see those clouds gathering, and we know how it's going to end up.

If we learn to put Igbo interests first and foremost, and be ruthless about this, we would be okay, irrespective of how this Anioma coming showdown pans out. But if we start playing emotional politics, we would surely suffer.

Odingo1:

They have been agitating for a state for long time.
Anioma people will not like to join SE.

Then, they shouldn't expect us to jettison our own agitations for theirs.
Aba state agitation had been ongoing for a long time too.
Each to his own. Chikena.

pazienza:

Asagba of Asaba married a Yoruba woman. I doubt his children would be that passionate about Igbo unity, so I'm already counting our loss there.
Though I learnt the Asagba title is not hereditary in Asaba.

Only those living in denial would deny the Igbophobia "winter" building up in Anioma right now.
Those of us in the know can see those clouds gathering, and we know how it's going to end up.

If we learn to put Igbo interests first and foremost, and be ruthless about this, we would be okay, irrespective of how this Anioma coming showdown pans out. But if we start playing emotional politics, we would surely suffer.

Anioma will never like to join SE, they just want Anioma state to remain in SS.

SE should push for the creation of state within the SE,eg Adada state or Njaba.

Other Nigerians will even force Anioma not to be part of SE.Igbos should push for a possible thing not building castle in the air.

pazienza:


Then, they shouldn't expect us to jettison our own agitations for theirs.

Aba state agitation had been ongoing for a long time too.

Each to his own. Chikena.

Yes, each to his own. Anioma inclusive, this is how the states from the SE rank in terms of viability and other sustainable index.
1. Njaba/Orashi
2. Aba
3. Adada
4. Etiti
5. Igboezue
6. Orimili

NB: The first three are official and were submitted by the south east caucus including Anioma in future states to be created for Ndigbo during the last Sovereign National Conference

EternalTruths:




So Achuzia aka Hannibal of Biafra is not Igbo.?



Well, this is Nairaland.


Say this in real life and watch how you will be dealt with in public


aniomafirstson pls ignore Pazienza.


I feel, he is not in his right mind

Achuzia says he is Igbo doesn't mean that all of his kinsmen agree they are. Igbo denial is rife in anioma and it will be counterproductive to allow them fool the Igbo race into falling for their trap of anioma state that will eventually metamorphose into a seperate anioma tribe. Some of them are just reluctantly accepting the Igbo tag in order to tap into the grace of being a major tribe in nigeria which would insulate them from oppression from the ijaw and urobo that they share delta state with. Give them anioma state and they won't see any need for the Igbo cover again.

pazienza:


Then, they shouldn't expect us to jettison our own agitations for theirs.

Aba state agitation had been ongoing for a long time too.

Each to his own. Chikena.

Anioma want a state that will remain in SS. Have you ever heard them say that Anioma state should be joined with SE, it is only few of them and more of Igbos saying that.

If you give Anioma opportunity to vote, they will vote for their state to remain in SS.

Let the Igbos go for a state from SE, except if Anioma people meet with SE people and declare their interest for their state to join SE.

Odingo1:


Anioma want a state that will remain in SS. Have you ever heard them say that Anioma state should be joined with SE, it is only few of them and more of Igbos saying that.

If you give Anioma opportunity to vote, they will vote for their state to remain in SS.

Let the Igbos go for a state from SE, except if Anioma people meet with SE people and declare their interest for their state to join SE.

the point of the thread is for se leaders to help anioma state under the agreement that they would join se.

Do u now understand?

Chiwude:
Yes, each to his own. Apart from Anioma, this is how the states from the SE rank in terms of viability and other sustainable index.
1. Njaba/Orashi
2. Aba
3. Adada
4. Etiti
5. Igboezue
6. Orimili

NB: The first three were submitted by the south east caucus including Anioma in future states to be created for Ndigbo during the last Sovereign National Conference

There is nothing like sustainable index in Nigeria, every month each state receive billions from Abuja from oil sells, it will remain like that until all the oil well dry up. The north is ready to kill anyone that goes against this and SW is ready to provide any available support.

Igbos should back a state from SE except if Anioma want to join SE.

Money from Abuja will sustain the new state as it is doing in all Nigeria states now.

selemempe:
the point of the thread is for se leaders to help anioma state under the agreement that they would join se.

Do u now understand?

OK but in reality many Anioma people will not like to join SE for anything, they should remain in SS as they wish although few of them wish to join the SE but majority differs.

Odingo1:


OK but in reality Anioma people will not like to join SE for anything.

well that is not true. U will say that if given a choice that they will choose ss.

Hwever ss already has 6 states. So only se will get a new state anytime soon. So the anioma will have 2 options..join se as a state or remain in delta as a senatorial zone.

Which do u think they will go for?

Chiwude:
Yes, each to his own. Anioma inclusive, this is how the states from the SE rank in terms of viability and other sustainable index.
1. Njaba/Orashi
2. Aba
3. Adada
4. Etiti
5. Igboezue
6. Orimili

NB: The first three are official and were submitted by the south east caucus including Anioma in future states to be created for Ndigbo during the last Sovereign National Conference

The Anioma part should be removed and replaced with any of the other 6 you listed, if their stakeholders won't guarantee the transfer of the new state to SE.

We won't be shortchanged ever again in Nigeria.
The era of allowing opportunists exploit our emotional politics, must end.

pazienza:


The Anioma part should be removed and replaced with any of the other 6 you listed, if their stakeholders won't guarantee the transfer of the new state to SE.

We won't be shortchanged ever again in Nigeria.
The era of allowing opportunists exploit our emotional politics, must end.

i think the proposed orimiri state includes onitsha and anioma together.

Not good for anambra

Odingo1:


There is nothing like sustainable index in Nigeria, every month each state receive billions from Abuja from oil sells, it will remain like that until all the oil well dry up. The north is ready to kill anyone that goes against this and SW is ready to provide any available support.

Igbos should back a state from SE except if Anioma want to join SE.

Money from Abuja will sustain the new state as it is doing in all Nigeria states now.

I agree with you on this. But hope you know that Nigeria as a country is gradually moving into restructuring where they are talks of merging non-viable states together. States like Yobe is likely to get merged with Borno and so forth. Because in time, every state will independently look out for themselves and pay certain monies to the central. Ebonyi state in the south-east seems to be the only place dragging us behind in every indices. Although they seem to be a level of improvement these past 4 years, yet that doesn’t change the fact that the state is still moving at a slow speed. Adada resembles Ebonyi in many aspect whether you want to belief it or not. Remaining in Enugu is still an advantage for them whether or not they believe this. In terms of population increase both Njaba and Aba doubles that of Adada, the same as educational, economic and other indices. Adada can be created as the 8th Igbo state but never the 6th or 7th.

selemempe:
well that is not true. U will say that if given a choice that they will choose ss.

Hwever ss already has 6 states. So only se will get a new state anytime soon. So the anioma will have 2 options..join se as a state or remain in delta as a senatorial zone.

Which do u think they will go for?

The way I am seeing many of them I have interacted with, they will prefer to remain in Delta state.

selemempe:
well that is not true. U will say that if given a choice that they will choose ss.

Hwever ss already has 6 states. So only se will get a new state anytime soon. So the anioma will have 2 options..join se as a state or remain in delta as a senatorial zone.

Which do u think they will go for?

They wouldn't get Anioma without our support.

Let's analyze it.

The Ijaws want Oil Rivers state
And the Ogojas want Ogoja state.

Anioma would have to contend with those two groups in SS for a single slot.

Our support would not come for free, as no one ever gives Ndiigbo free support in Nigeria, so it's about time we started doing same.

If Anioma want our support, then they must cross over to SE. If they don't want, then they should go try their luck against Ogojas and Ijaws.

It's very simple.

Odingo1:


The way I am seeing many of them I have interacted with, they will prefer to remain in Delta state.

u have interacted with SOME of them...not many of them.

Let me ask u again. Does south east have a central govt? So exactly how will they be affected by joining SE negatively?

Are all states not independent? Will se govs tell anioma gov wat to do..if he doesnt like?

An anioma man will rather get anioma state...even if in se than remain with the urobos

pazienza:

Asagba of Asaba married a Yoruba woman. I doubt his children would be that passionate about Igbo unity, so I'm already counting our loss there.
Though I learnt the Asagba title is not hereditary in Asaba.

Only those living in denial would deny the Igbophobia "winter" building up in Anioma right now.
Those of us in the know can see those clouds gathering, and we know how it's going to end up.

If we learn to put Igbo interests first and foremost, and be ruthless about this, we would be okay, irrespective of how this Anioma coming showdown pans out. But if we start playing emotional politics, we would surely suffer.

thank you bro

Chiwude:
I agree with you on this. But hope you know that Nigeria as a country is gradually moving into restructuring where they are talks of merging non-viable states together. States like Yobe is likely to get merged with Borno and so forth. Because in time, every state will independently look out for themselves and pay certain monies to the central. Ebonyi state in the south-east seems to be the only place dragging us behind in every indices. Although they seem to be a level of improvement these past 4 years, yet that doesn’t change the fact that the state is still moving at a slow speed. Adada resembles Ebonyi in many aspect whether you want to belief it or not. Remaining in Enugu is still an advantage for them whether or not they believe this. In terms of population increase both Njaba and Aba doubles that of Adada, the same as educational, economic and other indices. Adada can be created as the 8th Igbo state but never the 6th or 7th.

I noticed you have been talking down on Ebonyi .
I think you are wrong about Ebonyi. Ebonyi is very much viable, and had been outperforming Abia State in recent past, in terms of infrastructural development.

Odingo1:


Anioma want a state that will remain in SS. Have you ever heard them say that Anioma state should be joined with SE, it is only few of them and more of Igbos saying that.

If you give Anioma opportunity to vote, they will vote for their state to remain in SS.

Let the Igbos go for a state from SE, except if Anioma people meet with SE people and declare their interest for their state to join SE.

oyel dey ur head

pazienza:


They wouldn't get Anioma without our support.

Let's analyze it.

The Ijaws want Oil Rivers state
And the Ogojas want Ogoja state.

Anioma would have to contend with those two groups in SS for a single slot.

Our support would not come for free, as no one ever gives Ndiigbo free support in Nigeria, so it's about time we started doing same.

If Anioma want our support, then they must cross over to SE. If they don't want, then they should go try their luck against Ogojas and Ijaws.

It's very simple.

i created this thread bro...wat exactly do u think i was talking about.

Wat u wrote here is exactly wat i mean. We need more lands in se...anioma is our close kins and they need their state..if we wrk together then everybody gets wat they want

Chiwude:
I agree with you on this. But hope you know that is moving gradually into restructuring where they are talks of merging non-viable states together. Ebonyi state in the south-east seems to be the only place dragging us behind in every indices. Although they seem to be a level of improvement these past 4 years, yet that doesn’t change the fact that the state is still moving at a slow speed. Adada resembles Ebonyi in many aspect whether you want to belief it or not. Remaining in Enugu is still an advantage for them whether or not they believe this. In terms of population increase both Njaba and Aba doubles that of Adada, the same as educational, economic and other indices. Adada can be created as the 8th Igbo state but never the 6th or 7th.

The North and SW will not support restructuring, it is dead on arrival.

Adada can be created and they develop at their own pace like Ebonyi. Looking down on a fellow Igbo state is not good, everywhere in SE should not be measured with others with time they will come up.

selemempe:
u have interacted with SOME of them...not many of them.

Let me ask u again. Does south east have a central govt? So exactly how will they be affected by joining SE negatively?

Are all states not independent? Will se govs tell anioma gov wat to do..if he doesnt like?

An anioma man will rather get anioma state...even if in se than remain with the urobos

Many of them don't want to be called Igbos like Oliseh and co.

pazienza:


They wouldn't get Anioma without our support.

Let's analyze it.

The Ijaws want Oil Rivers state
And the Ogojas want Ogoja state.

Anioma would have to contend with those two groups in SS for a single slot.

Our support would not come for free, as no one ever gives Ndiigbo free support in Nigeria, so it's about time we started doing same.

If Anioma want our support, then they must cross over to SE. If they don't want, then they should go try their luck against Ogojas and Ijaws.

It's very simple.

now we are talking. Chai people like you is what we need here. The se ain't gonna frustrate anioma state. It is fellow ss that will try to frustrate it. Xpecially ijaw and what about ogoni who want a state also. The itssekiri also need state that's y prof Sagay ave been an advocate of merging anioma to anambra.

Odingo1:


Many of them don't want to be called Igbos like Oliseh and co.

south east shouldnt be for only those 'who want to be called igbos'.

There are ijaws in sw too. And many tribes in nw

ghostfacekillar:
now we are talking. Chai people like you is what we need here. The se ain't gonna frustrate anioma state. It is fellow ss that will try to frustrate it. Xpecially ijaw and what about ogoni who want a state also. The itssekiri also need state that's y prof Sagay ave been an advocate of merging anioma to anambra.

ss aint getting any new state any time soon. The whole nigeria knows it south east turn. It is left for se to come together and agree on one state

pazienza:


The Anioma part should be removed and replaced with any of the other 6 you listed, if their stakeholders won't guarantee the transfer of the new state to SE.

We won't be shortchanged ever again in Nigeria.
The era of allowing opportunists exploit our emotional politics, must end.

yes my broda. I concur

selemempe:
the point of the thread is for se leaders to help anioma state under the agreement that they would join se.

Do u now understand?

it is not us that will present it to you but itx left for them to come meet us

Odingo1:


Many of them don't want to be called Igbos like Oliseh and co.

yes but also they will make u turn and claim igbonese when goodies come their way but if the going gets tough they will reject it. Who are they fooling? Hausa fulani or who

Odingo1:

Many of them don't want to be called Igbos like Oliseh and co.

The problem with guys like you is that you take nonentities very serious.
Who is Oliseh to determine for other others if they are Igbos or not.

That is why I like Nnamdi Kanu. He never took fools like Oliseh serious.

Well, there is no need to waste my time arguing with you guys.

We the real liberators know that Aniomas are Igbos.

selemempe:
south east shouldnt be for only those 'who want to be called igbos'.

There are ijaws in sw too. And many tribes in nw

In that case, we can as well throw our support around Ogoja state creation, if they are willing to cross over to SE. It mustn't be all about Anioma , since we would be dealing with non Igbos, either way.

pazienza:


In that case, we can as well throw our support around Ogoja state creation, if they are willing to cross over to SE. It mustn't be all about SE, since we would be dealing with non Igbos, either way.

unlike ogoja...anioma has a large group of igbos who say they are igbos.

Can u point one in ogoja