omopeace4luv:
pls how did you cross the hurdles of a guarantor for the child’s passport

Demi007:
Thanks for your response. I already made up my mind after aquaboss responded that I’ll include it in my application (online)

I have follow up questions though.

1.) do i need to include an appointment letter from a Dr? Because, from all that i have read on the thread (recent posts) Drs haven’t been picking up (even i have tried to call severally). Also, People get hung up on by the secretaries of the Dr’ etc.

I just want to know if I have to submit any medical appointment proof with my application online?

Another challenge im having is when i get to POE. If im asked if I have a Dr’ appointment, I can’t say yes if I haven’t been able to get. And a lot of people here have suggested just walking into med centers when one gets there.

2.) I plan to travel in September even though im not due till Dec/Jan. Hope that isn’t too early? This is in relation to possible questions I might be asked at POE like “How long are you here for ?” Becsuse in filling my online form it has 2 weeks as travel period.

Thank you all for your responses. Really appreciate and waiting feed back on this as well



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aquaboss11:
Hey, is there anyone with information about Doctors and Fees in Ottawa. My wife and I arrived this Monday and we are currently trying to get a doctor. A recommendation would be appreciated.

Demi007:
Thanks for your response. I already made up my mind after aquaboss responded that I’ll include it in my application (online)

I have follow up questions though.

1.) do i need to include an appointment letter from a Dr? Because, from all that i have read on the thread (recent posts) Drs haven’t been picking up (even i have tried to call severally). Also, People get hung up on by the secretaries of the Dr’ etc.

I just want to know if I have to submit any medical appointment proof with my application online?

Another challenge im having is when i get to POE. If im asked if I have a Dr’ appointment, I can’t say yes if I haven’t been able to get. And a lot of people here have suggested just walking into med centers when one gets there.

2.) I plan to travel in September even though im not due till Dec/Jan. Hope that isn’t too early? This is in relation to possible questions I might be asked at POE like “How long are you here for ?” Becsuse in filling my online form it has 2 weeks as travel period.

Thank you all for your responses. Really appreciate and waiting feed back on this as well



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Christine77:

Please can you share your transcript at POE to help the group. Thanks.

FamilyforE4:
Hello everyone, my updated-I arrived yesterday to Ontario,everything went smoothly, when I applied for my visa, I didn’t declared my intention, after reading the comments here, I decided to send the embassy an email I got automatic respond that my mail is received that they will get back to me, which I never got.
POE- experience
On the flight, I was giving landing form to fill, I wrote my intended day of staying in Canada (45days) when I got to the POE,
POE: why are you staying for 45days?
Answer: I’m here for giving birth
POE: have you been here before
Answer: yes
PoE: any food
Answer: yes, potatoes flasks
PoE: Alright, good luck on your birth and welcome to Canada
Answer: thanks
Searching for Doctor and hospital: I went to Humber River hospital today,went straight to the birthing ward, met a lady at the front deck, I explained to her and she then refer me to a doctor, and told me the amount for the hospital that I can set up account with them now, which I did
Amount per night for mother:2680$
Baby:825$ per night
She gave me this doctor DR TED kOSALKA
Please,has anybody used him or know him? Planing to visit his office on Monday. OR can anyone give me any other doctors contact that works with Humber river.
I need good and affordable doctor
Thanks

aquaboss11:


We were on vacation in the US, so we basically didn't bother with more details. We just told them we are here on vacation and have made reservation for an airbnb. They asked how much we have and I told her. Unfortunately I had above 10k CAD and we have to go declare it. spent another 2 mins with more questions and filling out a form. After then, we were told welcome to Canada.

Christine77:

Thank you for sharing. They didn’t notice your wife tummy?

aquaboss11:
Please I'll like to know how your appointment with TED went.

Brampton civic is a bit cheaper than Humber river though. Dr Ayodele still takes non-OHIP, but you'll pay 3500 delivery fee at first meeting

aquaboss11:
Please I'll like to know how your appointment with TED went.

Brampton civic is a bit cheaper than Humber river though. Dr Ayodele still takes non-OHIP, but you'll pay 3500 delivery fee at first meeting

FamilyforE4:


My appointment with Dr TED went well, he’s nice and friendly, I was able to get a discount from him.He said I have to do all my labs test again but took my scans.

Crystalwunmi:

Hello there,
Please i have been trying to email you. I need some details about hospitals who take cash in either oshawa or Ontario... Im due in September. I wll appreciate it if you can respond soon.

Thank you in advance.

omopeace4luv:
II know what a Guarantor is. I need help with a Canadian who can be my baby's guarantor

FamilyforE4:
Hello everyone, my updated-I arrived yesterday to Ontario,everything went smoothly, when I applied for my visa, I didn’t declared my intention, after reading the comments here, I decided to send the embassy an email I got automatic respond that my mail is received that they will get back to me, which I never got.
POE- experience
On the flight, I was giving landing form to fill, I wrote my intended day of staying in Canada (45days) when I got to the POE,
POE: why are you staying for 45days?
Answer: I’m here for giving birth
POE: have you been here before
Answer: yes
PoE: any food
Answer: yes, potatoes flasks
PoE: Alright, good luck on your birth and welcome to Canada
Answer: thanks
Searching for Doctor and hospital: I went to Humber River hospital today,went straight to the birthing ward, met a lady at the front deck, I explained to her and she then refer me to a doctor, and told me the amount for the hospital that I can set up account with them now, which I did
Amount per night for mother:2680$
Baby:825$ per night
She gave me this doctor DR TED kOSALKA
Please,has anybody used him or know him? Planing to visit his office on Monday. OR can anyone give me any other doctors contact that works with Humber river.
I need good and affordable doctor
Thanks

FamilyforE4:


My appointment with Dr TED went well, he’s nice and friendly, I was able to get a discount from him.He said I have to do all my labs test again but took my scans.

Smog10:
Hi all, I'll appreciate any help for a Doctors contact in North York, Ontario.

Hotstepper:

Oh good..How much is he charging u? r u staying with someone?

FamilyforE4:

I’m 38 weeks now. I’m staying with my friend.
The amount I’ve paid so far at Humber River Hospital, I was total to setup an account but I decided to pay all.
Mother:2680$
Baby:825$
DR TED KOSKELA:Registration:120$
when I got there he told me 1800 for normal delivery,
I told him I don’t have that kind of amount, more over and going to pay cash, he reduced it to 1500.
But, i pleased with him that I have 1300.
He them agreed and said if it turns out to be C:S I have to add the 200$ because he will be paying his assistant for the c:s. I agreed:
So, I paid 1300$
Lab test: 78$

Total amount paid so far:
2680:mother
825:baby
1300:Dr TEd
120 Registration @the doctors’ office
78 for lab tests

Total:5003 Canadian Dollar.

FamilyforE4:

I’m 38 weeks now. I’m staying with my friend.
The amount I’ve paid so far at Humber River Hospital, I was total to setup an account but I decided to pay all.
Mother:2680$
Baby:825$
DR TED KOSKELA:Registration:120$
when I got there he told me 1800 for normal delivery,
I told him I don’t have that kind of amount, more over and going to pay cash, he reduced it to 1500.
But, i pleased with him that I have 1300.
He them agreed and said if it turns out to be C:S I have to add the 200$ because he will be paying his assistant for the c:s. I agreed:
So, I paid 1300$
Lab test: 78$

Total amount paid so far:
2680:mother
825:baby
1300:Dr TEd
120 Registration @the doctors’ office
78 for lab tests

Total:5003 Canadian Dollar.

FamilyforE4:

I’m 38 weeks now. I’m staying with my friend.
The amount I’ve paid so far at Humber River Hospital, I was total to setup an account but I decided to pay all.
Mother:2680$
Baby:825$
DR TED KOSKELA:Registration:120$
when I got there he told me 1800 for normal delivery,
I told him I don’t have that kind of amount, more over and going to pay cash, he reduced it to 1500.
But, i pleased with him that I have 1300.
He them agreed and said if it turns out to be C:S I have to add the 200$ because he will be paying his assistant for the c:s. I agreed:
So, I paid 1300$
Lab test: 78$

Total amount paid so far:
2680:mother
825:baby
1300:Dr TEd
120 Registration @the doctors’ office
78 for lab tests

Total:5003 Canadian Dollar.

Mzhella:
Hello,
Please am new here and currently 24 weeks gone. I would like to have my baby in Canada but not sure how to go about it. Kindly advise.

aquaboss11:
Would you be required to pay extra for extra night in the hospital if it becomes CS?

hajidel:
Good day house; As promised I would like to share my wife's journey after the successful birth of our child and through the help and tips from this forum we acknowledge and show our gratitude. So hence we would like to share our own story so others may benefit from it.

Wife travelled at around 28 weeks and arrived in Montreal without any issues at the airport as we had always declared our intent of giving birth in Canada. I'm not sure if me residing in the USA did any trick but at the POE we were only asked a handful of questions and was let in without any issues. Now that is the easy part.
The real issue came when we needed to get a doctor and hospital to register with. Through the help of others on the forum here albeit most go to Toronto not much experience in Montreal so, we tried walk ins, urgent care, family GP etc but none of them was successful. We then tried to contact the hospitals direct and some would not accept patients without the insurance card which only residents of Canada can have. Some of the other hospitals were requiring us to pay a deposit of between CAD$15,000-25,000 which for me was not worth it. I then proceeded to give my wife hotstepper's contact so she can get another option. Hotstepper was very helpful in offering her services but unfortunately she turned it down as she would not have any relatives in Toronto that would offer emotional help.

Contemplated sending her back home to africa as
1. it did not make financial sense the offers the hospital were giving in terms of the deposit less the delivery (dependent of C or natural),
2. baby and mother per day
3. Epidural
4. Doctors fees
and some other fees that I have even forgotten about.

After a couple of weeks wife made some contacts and ended up choosing a birth center in Ottawa which was only $1500 cheaper than a hospital and only an hour and a half but does not offer epidural and if any complications arose then they would end up in the hospital.
She did a tour of the birthing center and found it fantastic. I decided to go to Canada from the USA myself to check out the center.Pre natal and the birth center visits were conducted every other week to check the progress of both mother and baby and it was all smooth sailing and I travelled back to the USA.

Arrived back in Ottawa 2 days to due date and unfortunately Wife went under 2 weeks overdue. On the day contraction started 2AM and made a call to the midwife and we were asked to come to the center at 4AM and off we went. Stayed at the center (i went to sleep at that time till 10AM LOL) and major contractions started at around that time and the actual labor process started. She came in at 3cm and later opened up to 8cm within a couple of hours. She was being attended to by 3 midwives and an elderly relative of hers who was extremely experienced in birthing and she was actually allowed by the midwives to chip in with her experience as they saw her doing some stuff that gave them confidence in her.

After a long contraction period of sever pains and only about 1.5 hours of pushing, the baby came. A boy at 3.5kg healthy with no complications from either the mom or the baby. No washing or cleaning of the baby whatsoever, just wrapped in blanket. We had a choice of going home after all the checks on mother and baby was done or could stay at the center for 24 or 48 hours at no extra charge. Food and drinks are available a-la-carte and at any time of the day or night. We decided to stay there overnight and left in the afternoon the next day. Once we got home, they bathed and cleaned him.

So tatal cost of the birthing

$CAD5,000

includes the prenatal and after delivery checkups. They also did a home visit 2 days later to check on the baby poo and pee, as well as his weight soft spot in his head. Three subsequent home visits were conducted to check on the progress of the baby. Food, transportation are also a big part of this process so that should not be discounted. So my wife would spend about $CAD100-150 per week on food and transportation.

Now to the paperwork.

In Quebec unlike Toronto were you have a turnaround time of about a week to do the birth declaration/registration (i'm not sure which one), you will have to do Birth Declaration with the state of Quebec. After the delivery, the center/hospital will give a form to confirm that the birth took place there and you will be given a copy of that form which you will take to the state of Quebec to do the declaration, where you will fill the child's full name, the parents names etc. But the catch is, it takes 15 working days for this declaration to be entered into the states system before you even apply for the birth certificate. We did the declaration the next working day and the waiting began. I would think that the declaration may not take the whole 15 days and after 10 or so I went in to inquire and negative and went in 2 times after that nothing. Eventually just the 15th day it was registered late in the afternoon and the next morning first thing we went to do the same day service for the birth certificate as oppose to having it mailed out which will further delay it.
We took the birth certificate and went into the embassy to apply for the travel certificate which was done the same day and we went to the passport office to apply for the passport and also chose the same day service as we had an itinerary that showed we will be traveling soon. We dropped off the passport application in the morning and picked it up in the afternoon and it was a 5 year valid passport.

From the birth to the declaration to the birth certificate and passport application took exactly 3 weeks and they left 2 days later and i went back to the USA to fly out from there.

All in all it was a mixed experience with emotional and physical distress.

My advice to anyone seeking this journey,

DO NOT UNDERTAKE THIS JOURNEY IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY OR MOST IMPORTANTLY IF YOU DO NOT HAVE EMOTIONAL SUPPORT WHETHER IT BE FAMILY OR FRIEND. BECAUSE YOU CAN PAY THE HOSPITAL OR CENTER ITS ONLY MONEY BUT YOU CANNOT BUY EMOTIONAL SUPPORT

Secondly, you cannot buy the privilege of being a Canadian or any country in the west that offers Jus Soli citizenship as it is a key to traveling the world easily without much hassle and the medical and educational advantages that comes with it. No disrespect to my african roots as I am proud to be african.

Mental and emotional wellbeing or the benefits of being a citizen. If you have family who will offer you that and financially capable, then bingo go for it, but if no mental and emotional support, even if you have the financial means you might regret. So it comes down to what is more important to each individual.

Stmema:
Good day house,
please i am new here and have acouple of questions that havent been answered so far...
i am due in october and i applied for a visa in canada but i didnt indicate i was going for child birth, instead asked for a normal travel visa and the time duration i filled is 1 week. this is because i didnt have enough information then. having gone through this thread, just discovered there may be issues at the POE. what is the best way out? im expecting my visa latest next week hopefully but since i applied for a week vacation and didnt indicate pregnancy,is there an email ad or something i can send a change of intent mail to AFTeR i get the visa? or is there any other way?
2. i would also like to have a doctor's number i can liase with cos i was told they will only check me when i come in and wont accept to talk to me over the phone cos of distance and all...
pls respond ASAP...thanks all

Stmema:
Good day house,
please i am new here and have acouple of questions that havent been answered so far...
i am due in october and i applied for a visa in canada but i didnt indicate i was going for child birth, instead asked for a normal travel visa and the time duration i filled is 1 week. this is because i didnt have enough information then. having gone through this thread, just discovered there may be issues at the POE. what is the best way out? im expecting my visa latest next week hopefully but since i applied for a week vacation and didnt indicate pregnancy,is there an email ad or something i can send a change of intent mail to AFTeR i get the visa? or is there any other way?
2. i would also like to have a doctor's number i can liase with cos i was told they will only check me when i come in and wont accept to talk to me over the phone cos of distance and all...
pls respond ASAP...thanks all

FamilyforE4:
Hi,
I also didn’t indicate it when applying,but I sent them an email, which was’nt replied.
My advice for you,is for you to wait, to declared it at the time of entrying ( try to fill the landing form when you are returning back)like me I wrote 45days and she asked me question base on that why 45days, then I told her coming for birthing.
Getting a doctor> you have to come first.
I hope this help.

Tnx, please can I have the email address you sent it to so I can send as well? Tnx