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Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 10:00am On Jul 30, 2018
Given our history, the dismal state of affairs everywhere in the country, and the propensity of the Nigerian mind to play the blame game, we can't feign surprise that some individuals resort to tribalism and bigotry at the slightest opportunity.

There are bigots from all across Nigeria. This isn't news. As always though, I am concerned by patterns which I will leave you to discern for yourselves from two threads below. The subject of the more recent thread is a disaster in the South-Western part of the country. After noticing the usual responses, I went searching for the most recent thread on a similarly negative report from the East.

In each case, please determine for yourself:

i. The rapidity with which the discourse degenerated into tribe-bashing.
ii. The number of likes for overtly bigoted or tribalistic comments from various tribes.
iii. "Who started it"

The threads:

1. https://www.nairaland.com/4645844/oau-students-trapped-following-downpour
2. https://www.nairaland.com/4644788/deplorable-state-school-enugu-despite

Edit: my attention has been drawn to the existence of an older thread on flooding in Onitsha. Even though it is clear that tribalistic posts on that thread were less popular (if we go by the metric of likes), its existence does detract somewhat from my initial argument, and may render whatever follows a pissing contest.

Considering the above, I'm editting my initial call (if you're curious, I'm sure it lives on through respondents who quoted me ). I'm now challenging intelligent Yorubas and Igbos to please take a more vocal stance against overt tribalism from their kinsmen. The Igbos should caution their kinsmen, and the Yorubas should likewise call theirs to order.

There is nothing funny about tribalism. It may make for witty or snarky quotes, but the hatred it feeds is real.



*** If you are going to contribute on this thread, please keep the language civil. Thank you.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by loveth360(f): 10:08am On Jul 30, 2018
until you removed the log in your tribe eyes you cant removed the speck in igbos eyes.







Hypocrisy

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 10:09am On Jul 30, 2018
If i could just say one thing in response to the Op, it will be: Igbos are not to be taken very seriously. They have huge inferiority complex issues nobody can remedy in Nigeria. You would do well to ignore them because you cannot stop them from hating others. That is who they are.

OP, Igbos will frustrate you with more hate than you ever imagined. They are built to hate, forget about their insults jareeeee.

They will roll into this thread with waves of insults like a tsunami and completely destroy your thread. Igbos are easily the most hateful people in Nigeria.

But other than that, they are largely harmless. Its better you do something better with your time than try to reason with igbos oooo.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by LuciferChristi: 10:10am On Jul 30, 2018
Mr. Man shut up! You're just pained.

Afonjas insult Flatscreens on every drug trafficking post made & Flat sole slippers also insult Afonjas on every cyberfraud/skull mining thread here. Stop pushing it to one tribe you cone-headed sophisticated mor0n.

Ab0kis have their own fair share on paedophilic & senseless murder threads too.


Last night own pain you die. grin grin

Be a real man - stop allowing your emotions to overpower you.

Good day.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by cktheluckyman: 10:10am On Jul 30, 2018
you started well but messed it up with this statement "It is even more surprising that Ndi'gbo appear more willing than others to fan the embers of hatred given the balance of Igbo investments within, versus outside the East"

is that supposed to be a threat or what?

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Ziggylady(f): 10:14am On Jul 30, 2018
Original Poster,if you are a sincere person and not a two-faced hypocrite,you would have noticed that Yorubas are equaling guilty of what you accuse Igbos of..even worse.

Every single person who says anything against buhari,Osibanjo or APC is tagged Igbo with subsequent insults on Igbos..

Perhaps you were in coma during and after the just concluded Ekiti State elections that is why you failed to see the tsunami of insults your yoruba kith and kins heaped on Igbos..Countless posters from other tribes who supported Fayose and PDP were tagged Igbos and insulted as such..


You should therefore stop whinning and complaining...You either caution everyone including your Yoruba kins as well or keep quiet..

Being hypocritical will only make a bad situation worse.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Jasen1(m): 10:20am On Jul 30, 2018
Ziggylady:


Original Poster,if you are a sincere person and not a two-faced hypocrite,you would have noticed that Yorubas are equaling guilty of what you accuse Igbos of..even worse.

Every single person who says anything against buhari,Osibanjo or APC is tagged Igbo with subsequent insults on Igbos..

Perhaps you were in coma during and after the just concluded Ekiti State elections that is why you failed to see the tsunami of insults your yoruba kith and kins heaped on Igbos..Countless posters from other tribes who supported Fayose and PDP were tagged Igbos and insulted as such..


You should therefore stop whinning and complaining...You either caution everyone including your Yoruba kins as well or keep quiet..

Being hypocritical will only make a bad situation worse.

One bottle of O Mpa for you with well ganished Nkwobi

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 10:21am On Jul 30, 2018
I will overlook abuses if I deem the poster's IQ to be lower than I can work with.

For those acusing me of hypocrisy, it's a fair accusation. In response, I need you to do something for me. Pick 10 examples of threads that became war zones in terms of tribe-bashing. Use the three metrics I suggested above (the questions) to assess them.

If, after that exercise, you still feel I am a hypocrite, I will respond more directly tp the allegation.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by LuciferChristi: 10:22am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:
I will overlook abuses if I deem the poster's IQ to be lower than I can work with.

For those acusing me of hypocrisy, it's a fair accusation. In response, I need you to do something for me. Pick 10 examples of threads that became war zones in terms or tribe-bashing. Use the three metrics I suggested above (the questions) to assess them.

If, after that exercise, you still feel I am a hypocrite, I will respond more directly tp the allegation.



This will help you recover from last night's barrage...

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 10:23am On Jul 30, 2018
Jasen1:


One bottle of O Mpa for you with well ganished Nkwobi

Hold on with the nkwobi for a second. If you want to be sincere, rather than playing for likes, try to get DATA to establish your view. Try the experiment I suggested in my response.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 10:26am On Jul 30, 2018
Ziggylady:


You should therefore stop whinning and complaining...You either caution everyone including your Yoruba kins as well or keep quiet..

Being hypocritical will only make a bad situation worse.

And what exactly makes you think I have never cautioned my kinsmen? Don't be lazy, use your Search button.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Ziggylady(f): 10:27am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:
I will overlook abuses if I deem the poster's IQ to be lower than I can work with.

For those acusing me of hypocrisy, it's a fair accusation. In response, I need you to do something for me. Pick 10 examples of threads that became war zones in terms or tribe-bashing. Use the three metrics I suggested above (the questions) to assess them.

If, after that exercise, you still feel I am a hypocrite, I will respond more directly tp the allegation.



Guy go and sit down in a gutter and stop being silly..Instead of waiting for anyone to give you some useless '10 threads' go dig up the threads on APC winning in Ekiti state alone and read the rubbish from your siblings against Igbos..

Yeye

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Jasen1(m): 10:28am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:


Hold on with the nkwobi for a second. If you want to be sincere, rather than playing for likes, try to get DATA to establish your view. Try the experiment I suggested in my response.




Buddy I'm more focused on 2019 election and I got bills to pay so I'm working, I got no time for this. The truth is your article is bias, one sided, you targeted only the igbos. The hate comments on nairaland didn't start from the 2threads you posted unless you just joined nairaland.


Have a nice day sir

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 10:28am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:
I will overlook abuses if I deem the poster's IQ to be lower than I can work with.

For those acusing me of hypocrisy, it's a fair accusation. In response, I need you to do something for me. Pick 10 examples of threads that became war zones in terms of tribe-bashing. Use the three metrics I suggested above (the questions) to assess them.

If, after that exercise, you still feel I am a hypocrite, I will respond more directly tp the allegation.

OP, please leave them alone. You can never dissuade them from hating other Nigerians—especially yorubas.

You should know that by now if you have been a long time member of this forum. You cannot beat then igbos when it comes to hate, you will only be wasting your own time. You better ignore them.


You can see how they have destroyed your thread? They roll in with waves of insults like a tsunami and completely destroy every thread. They are easily the most hateful people in Nigeria. But other than that, they are largely harmless. Its better you do something better with your time than try to reason with igbos oooo.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Ziggylady(f): 10:30am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:


And what exactly makes you think I have never cautioned my kinsmen? Don't be lazy, use your Search button.



Go open a thread against them first if you are serious like you did this one.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Xander85: 10:31am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:


Hold on with the nkwobi for a second. If you want to be sincere, rather than playing for likes, try to get DATA to establish your view. Try the experiment I suggested in my response.

Na so! Because he doesn't have something better to do with his time this morning abi?

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 10:34am On Jul 30, 2018
Xander85:


Na so! Because he doesn't have something better to do with his time this morning abi?
Don't you think that makes you and him look stupid? Why comment on an issue sans facts, and them say you're too busy to get the facts? Why not wait till evening or wherever you have the facts?

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Ziggylady(f): 10:36am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:
If i could just say one thing in response to the Op, it will be: Igbos are not to be taken very seriously. They have huge inferiority complex issues nobody can remedy in Nigeria. You would do well to ignore them because you cannot stop them from hating others. That is who they are.

OP, Igbos will frustrate you with more hate than you ever imagined. They are built to hate, forget about their insults jareeeee.

Why dont we concentrate on how Nigerians can be saved from Buhari next year?



You are so lame and just a bundle of inconsistency,swinging from side to side like a confused child..Even you forming 'Pro-yoruba christian,anti-buhari,Apc and muslims..can you count the amount of insults heaped on you by your Yoruba siblings who label you 'IPOB and Igbo with the antendant insults?

Keep fooling yourself.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 10:40am On Jul 30, 2018
Ziggylady:


Go open a thread against them first if you are serious like you did this one.

I assure you that I would have done this if I felt they are the more guilty party. My data data over time suggests otherwise.

I know, and have met with smarter ndi'gbo than have commented so far. So if they visit and provide evidence to the contrary, I will be happy to speak to my own kinsmen too.

BTW , I have on occasion challenged Yoruba bigots. Can you say you have done the same to Igbo bigots??

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Ziggylady(f): 10:43am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:


I assure you that I would have done this if I felt they are the more guilty party. My data data over time suggests otherwise.

I know, and have met with smarter ndi'gbo than have commented so far. So if they visit and provide evidence to the contrary, I will be happy to speak to my own kinsmen too.

BTW , I have on occasion challenged Yoruba bigots. Can you say you have done the same to Igbo bigots??


'If you feel they are more guilty'...hypocritical much.

Adios.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 10:44am On Jul 30, 2018
Ziggylady:




You are so lame and just a bundle of swinging inconsistency...Even you forming 'Pro-yoruba christian,anti-buhari,Apc and muslims..can you count the amount of insults heaped on you by your Yoruba siblings who label you 'IPOB and Igbo with the antendant insults?

Keep fooling yourself.

I have given up on replying igbo insults long ago. Haven’t you noticed? On the issue of my being pro Christian, anti Buhari, that is who I am and nobody—not even my own Yoruba brothers on NL—can box me in. So I would advice you to refrain from doing so. I blame the OP for trying to do what we have failed for almost 7 years. Who can have reasonable conversations with igbos when it come to the issue of their tribe without being excoriated?

The OP has time ooo. Men have moved on to other things jaree.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by nijabazaar: 10:45am On Jul 30, 2018
I think the insults will forever be between the Igbos and Yorubas until this contraption splits....

We cannot pretend there's lots of love...

It's as simple as the desire to phuck...We hate each other and see each one as bitter rivals.

And it got worse with the arrival of Nnamdi kanu To the scene and the subsequent "Awoke" of the igbo consciousness...

Igbos are now woke so to speak and see the Yoruba's as the devils puppetering the Hausas And the general political space

The Hausa is really the main puppeteer... Anyway

I tell you, once we split... Relations will improve.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by nku5: 10:49am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:
Given our history, the dismal state of affairs everywhere in the country, and the propensity of the Nigerian mind to play the blame game, we can't feign surprise that some individuals resort to tribalism and bigotry at the slightest opportunity.

There are bigots from all across Nigeria. This isn't news. As always though, I am concerned by patterns which I will leave you to discern for yourselves from two threads below. The subject of the more recent thread is a disaster in the South-Western part of the country. After noticing the usual responses, I went searching for the most recent thread on a similarly negative report from the East.

In each case, please determine for yourself:

i. The rapidity with which the discourse degenerated into tribe-bashing.
ii. The number of likes for overtly bigoted or tribalistic comments from various tribes.
iii. "Who started it"

The threads:

1. https://www.nairaland.com/4645844/oau-students-trapped-following-downpour
2. https://www.nairaland.com/4644788/deplorable-state-school-enugu-despite

In particular, I want to appeal to the Igbo leaders of thought on Nairaland. Tribalism and hatred are not good fodder for jokes. The Rwandan crisis did not degenerate into genocide in one day. Careless vile (even if witty) remarks probably played roles in fanning the embers that led to the conflagration.

It is even more surprising that Ndi'gbo appear more willing than others to fan the embers of hatred given the balance of Igbo investments within, versus outside the East.


*** If you are going to contribute on this thread, please keep the language civil. Thank you.

For years yorubas have been uploading pictures of dead or dying Igbo children on this site in the name of trolling. That one is not fanning the embers of hate? Is this not the same NL that yorubas were uploading pictures of Igbo boys being drowned in the mud by soldiers for fun?

OP mind yourself

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 10:50am On Jul 30, 2018
nijabazaar:
I think the insults will forever be between the Ibis and Yoruba's until this contraption splits....

We cannot pretend there's lots of love...

It's as simple as the desire to phuck...We hate each other and see each one as bitter rivals.


This is exactly the point. And that’s why i blame the OP for even trying to talk sense into igbos. Igbos will continue hating Yorubas till eternity. An entire generation of igbos were raised to see Yorubas as enemies.

I have long stopped trying to reply igbo insults. I advice the OP to do same. Let’s face Fulani and Buhari.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Strikethem: 10:53am On Jul 30, 2018
loveth360:
until you removed the log in your tribe eyes you cant removed the speck in igbos eyes.







Hypocrisy
Your desperation for likes is alarming. Spit.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by loveth360(f): 10:56am On Jul 30, 2018
Strikethem:
Your desperation for likes is alarming. Spit.
get out of my mention.....

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Strikethem: 10:57am On Jul 30, 2018
[s]
Ziggylady:




You are so lame and just a bundle of swinging inconsistency...Even you forming 'Pro-yoruba christian,anti-buhari,Apc and muslims..can you count the amount of insults heaped on you by your Yoruba siblings who label you 'IPOB and Igbo with the antendant insults?

Keep fooling yourself.
[/s]As usual. Senselessness.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by nijabazaar: 11:00am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:


This is exactly the point. And that’s why i blame the OP for even trying to talk sense into igbos. Igbos will continue hating Yorubas till eternity. An entire generation of igbos were raised to see Yorubas as enemies.

I have long stopped trying to reply igbo insults. I advice the OP to do same. Let’s face Fulani and Buhari.

That's right. At the same time, I still think this mutual hatred has causes (which every one pretends not to know of /address) . It might be a game of double reverse psychology or survival
Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:04am On Jul 30, 2018
nijabazaar:


That's right. At the same time, I still think this mutual hatred has hidden causes. It might be a game of double reverse psychology or survival

Me I don’t know the reason ooo but I have stopped trying to reply igbo insults online again. I have left them to their antics. I can’t hate as much as they do so I don’t have strength to fight.

I rather fight against Buhari’s misrule and Islamic fundamentalism. grin
Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Xander85: 11:11am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:

Don't you think that makes you and him look stupid? Why comment on an issue sans facts, and them say you're too busy to get the facts? Why not wait till evening or wherever you have the facts?

Au contraire, you're the one that comes out of this with egg on your face!

Your initial post is nothing more than the subjective rantings of a deranged, hypocritical paranoid-schizo! He was only letting know this fact!

How about you set the ball rolling by getting 'facts and data' on the bigotry of your own ethnic group towards Ndigbo? Or maybe you wanna posit that it's a one-way thing and that your people are innocent victims in all this?

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 11:11am On Jul 30, 2018
Point of correction.

We don't hate each other. We're different. Absolutely. Some Igbos hate some yorubas and vice versa. Definitely. But NEVER swallow the narrative of wholesale hatred between Yorubas and Igbos. For every example of hatred, I bet you know dozens of examples of peaceful, harmonious inter-tribal marriage and productive cooperation.

This hints at the very point of this thread. If you repeat something long enough, people start believing it. Yhe more we allow tribalistic posts to become the norm here, the more people accept the doctrine of wholesale hate.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Amumaigwe: 11:11am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:


OP, please leave them alone. You can never dissuade them from hating other Nigerians—especially yorubas.

You should know that by now if you have been a long time member of this forum. You cannot beat then igbos when it comes to hate, you will only be wasting your own time. You better ignore them.


You can see how they have destroyed your thread? They roll in with waves of insults like a tsunami and completely destroy every thread. They are easily the most hateful people in Nigeria. But other than that, they are largely harmless. Its better you do something better with your time than try to reason with igbos oooo.

Oh, you are now sounding like a peace-loving dude because Igbos have proven themselves better than you lots in your game of hate? You should have inquired about the character of an Igbo man before venturing into such a foolhardy ish: we are too hot to handle.

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