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What Is Wrong With DC Movies in the Extended Universe. Why haven't they been up to par?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1zZSLObyvc

TonySpike:
Here we are...

hopefully Aquaman won't let his father die for nothing. [color=#990000][/color]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IAaqeY1sOw
Before you start talking fanboy nonsense, just actually watch it. Unlike some people who actually just go on trolling sprees in the MCU section, which like seriously grow the hell up, y'all should know by now (at least I hope), that ain't my style. This actually came up a few minutes ago on YouTube's autoplay, thought to share.

even though i love both but prefer dceu due to its seriousness and darkness, i really think people should stop with all these comparison. most people fail to realize dceu just started, with 5 films presently compared to marvel's 20. the first 5 mcu films also had bad box-office record and didn't make up to what dceu has made, but they were able to re-strategize. dceu are doing good and should stop trying to catch up with marvel.

Most people don't really hate Dc/Dceu, they are just tired of Dceu failed plot and misdirection, at least both TDK and TDKR made 2 billion+. Dceu should suspend team-up movies for now and focus on building each character cast and also introduce new characters, that's the only edge marvel has over them, not box office returns. Dc stories are mature, complex, dark, with varying plots and can only be understood by adults and people that has been following the comics, not all these new fanboys and kids. While Marvel stories are fun, too light hearted and family-friendly and has similar/basic plots.

Overall, superhero movies are dumb and pass no real message, personally waiting it to fall out of style so we can finally have something new dominating the market.

teewhydope:
even though i love both but prefer dceu due to its seriousness and darkness, i really think people should stop with all these comparison. most people fail to realize dceu just started, with 5 films presently compared to marvel's 20. the first 5 mcu films also had bad box-office record and didn't make up to what dceu has made, but they were able to re-strategize. dceu are doing good and should stop trying to catch up with marvel.

Most people don't really hate Dc/Dceu, they are just tired of Dceu failed plot and misdirection, at least both TDK and TDKR made 2 billion+. Dceu should suspend team-up movies for now and focus on building each character cast and also introduce new characters, that's the only edge marvel has over them, not box office returns. Dc stories are mature, complex, dark, with varying plots and can only be understood by adults and people that has been following the comics, not all these new fanboys and kids. While Marvel stories are fun, too light hearted and family-friendly and has similar/basic plots.

Overall, superhero movies are dumb and pass no real message, personally waiting it to fall out of style so we can finally have something new dominating the market.

this comment in bold is a very ignorant comment. If you couldn't get the message in guardians of the galaxy 2, black panther, captain America 2 & 3, the dark knight trilogy etc then you are a dumb movie goer Most super hero movies are laden with messages that the audience tends to miss because of the flashy CGI fight scenes and stunts. Next time watch to understand, not just to entertain yourself. Peace

chrisbaxtian:
this comment in bold is a very ignorant comment. If you couldn't get the message in guardians of the galaxy 2, black panther, captain America 2 & 3, the dark knight trilogy etc then you are a dumb movie goer Most super hero movies are laden with messages that the audience tends to miss because of the flashy CGI fight scenes and stunts. Next time watch to understand, not just to entertain yourself. Peace

You just had to insult, when you could have just made your point!

chrisbaxtian:
this comment in bold is a very ignorant comment. If you couldn't get the message in guardians of the galaxy 2, black panther, captain America 2 & 3, the dark knight trilogy etc then you are a dumb movie goer Most super hero movies are laden with messages that the audience tends to miss because of the flashy CGI fight scenes and stunts. Next time watch to understand, not just to entertain yourself. Peace

Sorry fanboy; my opinion. what most of them especially Marvel, deliver to audiece are the same content like introducing us to a threat, superhero is created, superhero is introduced to the
threat, threat is destroyed by the hero
Also put in a very minor romantic
interest and then lead way to another sequel to repeat the sequence or something similar. Dc tried to take a different direction but it ended up getting bashed by critics.

Try watching "The Shape of Water", even though not realistic but passes a great message, even james cameron's Avatar. current superhero movies are just unrealistic fun that shouldn't be taken too seriously.

lol, GoTG you say?? black panther?? smh... Cap maybe, you're right about batman stories though(excluding dceu's batfleck) and that's because batman is a character we can easily relate with, and doesn't possess any superhero powers.

Zack snyder really messed up Superman in the MoS, in BvS. Batman wasn't as smart as he was portrayed in earlier series and comics, Blackpanther? same basic plot like any other marvel films with little or no emotional attachment with any character. GoTG is an unfunny crap, Spiderman homecoming is rubbish compared to Tobey Maguire's Spiderman series.


Back then, they took time to write good scripts but now, all they care about is profit and overuse of cgi. bye fanboy

teewhydope:
Zack snyder really messed up Superman in the MoS, in BvS.


Back then, they took time to write good scripts but now, all they care about is profit and overuse of cgi. bye fanboy

Funny. I think Snyder gave us the most realistic stories on Superman with Man of Steel and BvS. Thought you were looking for lessons

Kaycee7:
Funny. I think Snyder gave us the most realistic stories on Superman with Man of Steel and BvS. Thought you were looking for lessons

wasn't about the film in general, just concerned about the final battle, superman doesn't seem very concerned about the amount of destruction caused by his fights, and very rarely directly tries to help any humans put in harms way during the battles which makes the fight lose it's purpose compared to avengers 1.

Snyder really tried during his stay but warner bros messed up his ideas with their movies cut. even read green lantern scene was in JL before it was cut out and many other scenes like that. hope they won't mess up james wan's aquaman too.

teewhydope:
wasn't about the film in general, just concerned about the final battle, superman doesn't seem very concerned about the amount of destruction caused by his fights, and very rarely directly tries to help any humans put in harms way during the battles which makes the fight lose it's purpose compared to avengers 1.

Snyder really tried during his stay but warner bros messed up his ideas with their movies cut. even read green lantern scene was in JL before it was cut out and many other scenes like that. hope they won't mess up james wan's aquaman too.

Are you for real? He killed Zod to save a human family. Superman committed murder to save. And you say he didn't try to help any humans in harm's way. Or did you expect him to call time out everytime he saw a human in danger?

Kaycee7:
Are you for real? He killed Zod to save a human family. Superman committed murder to save. And you say he didn't try to help any humans in harm's way. Or did you expect him to call time out everytime he saw a human in danger?

Destroying an entire city and killing thousands of people in his battle with Zod, but finally discovers the will to kill, only when he can look into the eyes of a potential casualty??

teewhydope:
Destroying an entire city and killing thousands of people in his battle with Zod, but finally discovers the will to kill, only when he can look into the eyes of a potential casualty??

Fine. If you were Supes, how would you minimize casualties and damages in that battle?

teewhydope:
Destroying an entire city and killing thousands of people in his battle with Zod, but finally discovers the will to kill, only when he can look into the eyes of a potential casualty??

Did we watch the same movie at all? Please, I will advise you rewatch the movie, however, this time without bias. Zod and minions were the ones destroying the city 99.99% of the time, he was hellbent on fulfilling his quest of saving Krypton. Superman, for most of the time, was trying so hard to contain Zod but he couldn't. This was a rookie Superman, in his first physical fight with a man that was trained (and engineered) to be a formidable soldier, how do you expect a man who has been a farmer all his life to fight such a person? Let me break it down for you: The world engine destroyed more than 70% of Metropolis due to the terraforming process, if you watched the movie this was very obvious. Zod ensured that the remaining part of the city was destroyed in his fight with superman. Infact, Superman tried to hold back his anger while fighting Zod, and even tried to lure Zod out of the city. I will leave you with this video to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqBzNT_llL8

TonySpike:
Did we watch the same movie at all? Please, I will advise you rewatch the movie, however, this time without bias. Zod and minions were the ones destroying the city 99.99% of the time, he was hellbent on fulfilling his quest of saving Krypton. Superman, for most of the time, was trying so hard to contain Zod but he couldn't. This was a rookie Superman, in his first physical fight with a man that was trained (and engineered) to be a formidable soldier, how do you expect a man who has been a farmer all his life to fight such a person? Let me break it down for you: The world engine destroyed more than 70% of Metropolis due to the terraforming process, if you watched the movie this was very obvious. Zod ensured that the remaining part of the city was destroyed in his fight with superman. Infact, Superman tried to hold back his anger while fighting Zod, and even tried to lure Zod out of the city. I will leave you with this video to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqBzNT_llL8

You know that guy's a troll right?.. There's also one in the MCU thread.

badinfluence:
You know that guy's a troll right?.. There's also one in the MCU thread.

Lol, good to have you back. How are you these days?

Say my name let my powers flow through you... What a generic line? I miss the days of Snyder already.

Instead of WB/ Dc making a 'The flash' m0vie, why n0t produce a 'Reverse Flash' film. RF has the potential to be a box office hit and the character is alot m0re c0mpelling than Barry Allen.

Minemrys:
Say my name let my powers flow through you... What a genheric line? I miss the days of Snyder already.

Hack writers everywhere. I can't wait for that movie to bomb, looks like a regular TV series episode.

Minemrys:
Instead of WB/ Dc making a 'The flash' m0vie, why n0t produce a 'Reverse Flash' film. RF has the potential to be a box office hit and the character is alot m0re c0mpelling than Barry Allen.

Do they have people thinking for them at Warner Bros?

Minemrys:
Instead of WB/ Dc making a 'The flash' m0vie, why n0t produce a 'Reverse Flash' film. RF has the potential to be a box office hit and the character is alot m0re c0mpelling than Barry Allen.

hmmm... you have a very good point here.

TonySpike:
Do they have people thinking for them at Warner Bros?

lol, can u imagine the plot points they could with if the made a RF film? Start with characterizing a science obsessed professor with a dark upbringing whose life c0mes crashing due to the acti0ns of those around him. B0om! He cracks the speedforce code, gains super speed bt then the govt c0mes in to detain him and c0nfiscates his research. He escapes only to find out that those who were closest to him betrayed him. He tries to take care of them but ends up time travelling; a weap0n he uses to wipe his enemies, but then, the speedforce gets to him. He battles the speedforce then ends up travelling to the flash's time era. The flash battles him and has him locked up in star labs. The end of part 1.
Part 2: RF doesn't kn0w or understands flash's hostility to him then is told that he killed s0me N0ra Allen which he didn't. He tries to proof his inn0cence but gets treated harshly. He escapes and tries to go back to his time period bt the flash battles him all through. He starts developing a deep seated hatred for Barry, then theorises that if only he could go back way b4 Barry was born to kill Nora, n0ne of what happened would've happened. Barry follows bt the speedforce brings them to the very m0ment n0ra was killed in the original timeline. RF kills her, then he's blasted away. He wakes up in a desolated field with war going on. The end of part 2.
Part 3 becomes flashpoint.

chrisbaxtian:
hmmm... you have a very good point here.

thanks man.

TonySpike:
Hack writers everywhere. I can't wait for that movie to bomb, looks like a regular TV series episode.

lol, the film might surprise us, you kn0w...

Minemrys:
lol, the film might surprise us, you kn0w...

Actually, nothing surprises me anymore. The world is actually getting dumber everyday...

Minemrys:
Say my name let my powers flow through you... What a generic line? I miss the days of Snyder already.

that's almost how the wizard said it in the original comics and animated films. I really think people should stop watching films if they can't try to understand it. and did you also realize the full conversation was cut cos it's a trailer

Minemrys:
Instead of WB/ Dc making a 'The flash' m0vie, why n0t produce a 'Reverse Flash' film. RF has the potential to be a box office hit and the character is alot m0re c0mpelling than Barry Allen.

Just like saying avengers infinity war should have been released prior to its prequels. there is no flash solo movie yet but you want them to release a film based on a character culled from it. good thing people like you are not allowed in the film industry cos i'm sure you would barely hit $250k at the box office when given the opportunity to direct/write a $200m film.

DC logic can be wack sometimes but you plot logic baffles me ; D wanting professor zoom movie before flash.

Minemrys:
lol, can u imagine the plot points they could with if the made a RF film? Start with characterizing a science obsessed professor with a dark upbringing whose life c0mes crashing due to the acti0ns of those around him. B0om! He cracks the speedforce code, gains super speed bt then the govt c0mes in to detain him and c0nfiscates his research. He escapes only to find out that those who were closest to him betrayed him. He tries to take care of them but ends up time travelling; a weap0n he uses to wipe his enemies, but then, the speedforce gets to him. He battles the speedforce then ends up travelling to the flash's time era. The flash battles him and has him locked up in star labs. The end of part 1.
Part 2: RF doesn't kn0w or understands flash's hostility to him then is told that he killed s0me N0ra Allen which he didn't. He tries to proof his inn0cence but gets treated harshly. He escapes and tries to go back to his time period bt the flash battles him all through. He starts developing a deep seated hatred for Barry, then theorises that if only he could go back way b4 Barry was born to kill Nora, n0ne of what happened would've happened. Barry follows bt the speedforce brings them to the very m0ment n0ra was killed in the original timeline. RF kills her, then he's blasted away. He wakes up in a desolated field with war going on. The end of part 2.
Part 3 becomes flashpoint.

I don't think this will work. This is not even the story of reverse flash. The guy is obsessed with Barry Allen and he got his powers by recreating Barry's accident. If your suggestion is the plot to be used, it is the same fans who will scream that it is a wrong representation of the character. It seems more like an Eddie Brock/Venom story than a reverse flash story.

Minemrys:
Say my name let my powers flow through you... What a generic line? I miss the days of Snyder already.

Oh, now you miss Snyder. Thought he was the one ruining the DCEU. And what's wrong with that line? Not every line in a script has to be deep or awe-inspiring.

Minemrys:
lol, can u imagine the plot points they could with if the made a RF film? Start with characterizing a science obsessed professor with a dark upbringing whose life c0mes crashing due to the acti0ns of those around him. B0om! He cracks the speedforce code, gains super speed bt then the govt c0mes in to detain him and c0nfiscates his research. He escapes only to find out that those who were closest to him betrayed him. He tries to take care of them but ends up time travelling; a weap0n he uses to wipe his enemies, but then, the speedforce gets to him. He battles the speedforce then ends up travelling to the flash's time era. The flash battles him and has him locked up in star labs. The end of part 1.
Part 2: RF doesn't kn0w or understands flash's hostility to him then is told that he killed s0me N0ra Allen which he didn't. He tries to proof his inn0cence but gets treated harshly. He escapes and tries to go back to his time period bt the flash battles him all through. He starts developing a deep seated hatred for Barry, then theorises that if only he could go back way b4 Barry was born to kill Nora, n0ne of what happened would've happened. Barry follows bt the speedforce brings them to the very m0ment n0ra was killed in the original timeline. RF kills her, then he's blasted away. He wakes up in a desolated field with war going on. The end of part 2.
Part 3 becomes flashpoint.

Lol. This is just a proof that to write film hard well well..

Kaycee7:
Oh, now you miss Snyder. Thought he was the one ruining the DCEU. And what's wrong with that line? Not every line in a script has to be deep or awe-inspiring.

1st thing, i've never been anti snyder.