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bloodofthelamb:
budaatum, after reading all your beautiful replies, I can only conclude that you, my friend is agreeing with the scriptures that, "all have sinned and falling short of the glory and standard of the holy and perfect God."

So therefore needs a Saviour, or else they perish. This is were the incarnate God man( Jesus Christ) features in. He came that he might deliver us from the perfect standard of God, in other that through him we might be saved and transformed.

All may have indeed sinned (despite my aversion to the sentiment expressed with that phrase), but one is delivered, saved, by 'Jesus Christ', which for me is not achieved by merely worshipping him, or claiming to be born again, or even believing him or in him, but by understanding what he taught and doing his will!

Jesus 'saves' those who "do my will" and not those who do "Lord! Lord!". If "do my will" is lacking in ones "believing", "born again", "worshipping", "Lord! Lord!" and etc, one has not first sought, or found the so called "Kingdom of God", which is an understanding of the ways of the Lord, and such as one worships in vain and may gnash their teeth on judgement day!

If buda's actions do not agree with what you call "beautiful words" then they are not beautiful at all but the ugly words of a hypocrite buda who is going straight to hell!

bloodofthelamb:
can only conclude that you, my friend is agreeing with the scriptures ...

I'm singling this out for specific reference.

Yes, I agree with Scripture, provided that by "agreeing", you do not mean "believing", since I am not a devil (least I don't think I am).

God in its infinite wisdom has created buda as an unbelieving atheist, so buda is not required to believe, but to understand it, and in that sense is every single word, despite the errors and corruption in it, agreed to by buda. If I find a single word in any Scripture that I disagree with, it is because I am looking at it wrong.

You know what! You drag me into talk I don't often do on here for obvious reasons that it would confuse. Most either see through a Christian lens or an atheist lens or a theist lens or a Islamic lens and so on and see what they hear through their own lens alone. Unless one is born again, is how Christ put it (meaning, abandon all ones preconceived ideas and opinions and what one thinks about a thing), and "do not live on bread alone" (meaning, Scripture is plenty!), one would not even become capable of understanding the Kingdom of God! However, not everyone is required to aspire like buda o. To those whom little is given, very little is required. God is most merciful and wise.

solite3:
before good works or bad works were even mentioned where they belong to has been set base on their nature (sheep or goat).

You, my friend are putting things the wrong way round! God can't have set up the game knowing who is what and then say 'play' with results that have been predetermined. Imagine I'm a goat. What exactly is supposed to happen to make me become a sheep?

No one's nature is set as a goat or a sheep to start with with no chance to change. You, through your actions, will either become a stubborn goat or a meek sheep. If you stubbornly do not learn the will of God and behave as a goat, it's your choice. And if you do the will of God, which is rather sheepish by it's nature, you are a sheep.

One chooses whether one is left or right, and a stubborn goat or a meek sheep! Each is judged by it's fruits, and the fruit is not determined until the tree grows.

Sir budaatum, I know you have read where Jesus said, "if your eyes causes you to sin pluck it off." Do you think Jesus meant it or was just kidding?

The law of God is strict and have no room for mercy. There is no forgiveness found in the law. "Whenever you break the standard, the standard breaks you."

If anyone decides to be delivered by the law of God, such a person must fulfill it wholly, including plucking your eyes and cutting of your hand when they causes you to sin.

Sir buda their is no room for partial perfection. You must be wholly perfect in following and doing his law. Without grace( Christ Jesus ) we are all doomed.

So sir, are you perfect in doing all the will of Jesus Christ, for you to reject his grace?

bloodofthelamb:
Sir budaatum, I know you have read where Jesus said, "if your eyes causes you to sin pluck it off." Do you think Jesus meant it or was just kidding?

The law of God is strict and have no room for mercy. There is no forgiveness found in the law. "Whenever you break the standard, the standard breaks you."

If anyone decides to be delivered by the law of God, such a person must fulfill it wholly, including plucking your eyes and cutting of your hand when they causes you to sin.

Sir buda their is no room for partial perfection. You must be wholly perfect in following and doing his law. Without grace( Christ Jesus ) we are all doomed.

So sir, are you perfect in doing all the will of Jesus Christ, for you to reject his grace?

Jesus did not ask anyone to literally pluck out their eyes, blood. You'd hear us atheists say he literally meant it when we want to ridicule the understanding of Christians, but it is not literally meant. He is way more merciful than that. Imagine if I pluck out my right eye when it makes me sin, and then my left eye makes me sin too. Do I pluck them both out and become blind? Would you not ask me if I were mad or something?

Imagine too, if I pluck out my own eye when it causes me to sin, how can I have mercy for your eye when it makes you sin and you refuse to pluck it out? Can you see how my supposed love for God can cause me to pluck out your sinful eye for you whilst conveniently forgetting to mind the forest in my own eye and judge others not? Imagine too, if it were my whole life that makes me sin, should I cut off my life too?

Pluck out my sinful eye simply means that I must be extremely hard in judging myself. I must not be a hypocrite, blinded to my own sins whilst standing there condemning others for sins I also commit. You'd find a classic example amongst us when we condemn the actions of others and in that same condemning of others is our very own sin. Jesus taught this when he asked those without sin to stone the sinful woman. Those who wanted to were honest and could not pick up a stone. It is also taught in "thank you Lord that I am not like that tax collector over there".

Besides, God is not as strict as you make out! Nor does God require me, mere buda, to be perfect. A strict God would have wiped the whole earth of we constantly sinning people by now if it were that strict. But what does God do? God teaches us, God nurtures us, God becomes flesh and comes down to help us and even forgives us 70 million times 70 million times and all. That sounds very merciful to me.

I said in a previous that if God wanted buda to be perfect, God would not have created buda from mud or evolved buda from an ape to begin with. Doing so and asking buda to be perfect is like breaking the leg of a horse and asking it to win the Grand National, or not sending one's child to school and expecting it to become a top surgeon. One would be stupid to make such demands of one's horse or child under the circumstances described above, and God would be stupid if it asked buda to be perfect when it had not bothered to use better materials in creating buda to begin with!

I'll tell you a story. One day, buda was having a shower in buda's very beautifully equipped bathroom that had an electric powered showerhead in it. All of a sudden, as nice warm water bathed buda's body, the showerhead said "buda, you are a perfectionist!"

buda was like, "What the heck?! Perfectionist? buda? What has buda ever done perfectly". To wit the showerhead just looked at buda and went on showering buda with it's nice warm water.

It was much later that buda understood that buda wanted to be perfect so that anything buda did would be perfectly done. But since buda was not yet perfect, buda did nothing! A realisation of this fact freed buda from the bondage of not doing much that buda had dwelled in for years!

No God requires anyone to be perfect, blood. One could even argue that God doesn't even require one to be 'good'. Go back and read the story of creation. You would find all the things created prior to humans, "And God saw that it was good". But to the humans, at best, "go and become good" if one stretches the imagination a tinsy bit!

Nor does God do doomed! God likes it's sheep way too much such that if a single one of them were to go missing, God behaves like an almanjari herder who would leave the whole herd to go look for that lost single cow! God accepts everyone just the way they are. It makes God sound wishy washy, but that's, at least, buda's God for you. I, after all, am the least worthy of those whom you see. If God has the time for an atheist buda, how much more so you who is indeed more worthy but hardly perfect by miles?

I mentioned my Jesus given grace in a this post. I'll repost it below.

"Not only did God send loads of Prophets and other examples to equip me, God had it written in a book (the Bible), God screamed in the night in Proverbs. God, knowing how ignorantly it created me from mud decided to get off it's ass, become flesh, and came down to earth to preach it to me personally. God spat on mud and rubbed it in my senses in case I was blind, deaf, senseless and could not see, hear, and reason about what I was being taught. God had itself crucified, went to hell, went back up to heaven and sent the Holy Spirit to personally minister to me just so that one day, through my continuously aspiring to understand these many opportunities to learn and evolve that I have been sent, I buda, shall be worthy to dwell in the Tabernacle of the Lord, if I so desire!"

That is only a snapshot of the whole lot of Grace that buda constantly receives. And buda better be grateful for it or even this little grace that buda is given would be lost by buda!

I think the mods should take this is to FP on Friday and Sunday, we want more people to add their contributions especially Muslims

freemasonry is just another religion. Don't be deceived the god of freemasonry is lucifer.
it is an occult society.

Hungerbad! well done, I just got back from the ban you instigated against me. I will demystify you on this forum! mark my words!

lawjjj:
big YES I Wonder how Christians read the bible and miss the message of love, at least the new testament, let me give you one reference because they are too many. 1 Chr 13. this is why I don't go to churches because all I hear is offering, tithes...

I wonder why the occult won't stop quoting the Bible. Doesn't Satan have a book for you guys?

For your info, you have no idea what Love Jesus preached. What you people preach is self love only for the brotherhood, that is not the Love the Lord Preached. Jesus' Love is completely selfless and it can not be divulged from Faith in the true God. Satan Loves his own so if you preach love for love sake, you'd get thrown out.

budaatum:
Make that YES a bit bigger please, so people might get it. I think you meant 1 Corinthians 13 In fact, go as far as considering that "Jesus Christ" is a spiritual way of saying, 'Love'.

YES, The Master is LOVE, but not the kind of love talked about by people outside of Christ. You can't know it outside of Christ

Where you been?

Anas09:
YES, The Master is LOVE, but not the kind of love talked about by people outside of Christ. You can't know it outside of Christ

Anas09:
For your info, you have no idea what Love Jesus preached. What you people preach is self love only for the brotherhood, that is not the Love the Lord Preached. Jesus' Love is completely selfless and it can not be divulged from Faith in the true God. Satan Loves his own so if you preach love for love sake, you'd get thrown out.

Anas09:
It's very interesting to hear a Camel Urine drinker instruct a Christian on the matters of the Divine. hahahahaha.

Is that the kind of love you talking about perhaps?

Common stones will rise up and preach it to you someday. Then might you get it. In Jesus name, Amen.

But I think you freemason people, you worship the one eyed Beast right? The one that they call antichrist, if you do, why is that, why is the beast such a big deal?

budaatum:
Where you been?



Is that the kind of love you talking about perhaps?

Common stones will rise up and preach it to you someday. Then might you get it. In Jesus name, Amen.

Been busy. Stones will rise to preach what to me? If only you knew.

Freemasonry itself is a religion!.

All I see is a people who are tired of religion, looking for respite and peace. If that describes you, I will like to welcome you to the way of life and peace.

Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. Following him is not religion, rather it's having a personal relationship. I welcome you to a life of dynamic fellowship and relationship with Jesus Christ. This and only this guarantees peace and rest.

I doubt that the OP is a true Mason let alone a master. And if you are, you have not understood the basic essence of your society.