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| 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by dre11(op): 7:59am On Aug 26, 2018 |
“Tinubu is one of the most grounded politicians in the country today and as you know, the South-East is laying claim to the presidency in 2023 only on moral grounds” ■ Plot one of injustices meted out to Igbo – Mbazulike Amaechi ■ This is why we want self-determination – MASSOB ■ Igbo leaders in APC say support for Buhari in 2019’ll determine fate ■ Tinubu has right to be president in 2023 – Senator Hanga, others Enyeribe Ejiogu, Omoniyi Salaudeen, Onyedika Agbedo (Lagos), David Onwuchekwa (Nnewi) and Jeff Amaechi Agbodo (Onitsha) and Romanus Ugwu, Abuja |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by dre11(op): 8:00am On Aug 26, 2018 |
His words: “Tinubu is one of the most grounded politicians in the country today and as you know, the South-East is laying claim to the presidency in 2023 only on moral grounds, which hardly matter in politics. It’s still uncertain if the South-East will support Buhari in 2019, but the political climate in the South- West points to that direction. If Tinubu is really nursing a presidential aspiration in 2023, do you think the South-East stands a chance in the APC?http://sunnewsonline.com/2023-presidency-ndigbo-new-plot-cede-power-s-west/
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| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by KEVIND: 8:01am On Aug 26, 2018 |
"Chibuike Amaechi, Rochas Okorocha, Ogbonnaya Onu, Chris Ngige and others from Igbo land that later joined APC as a national party are all political errand boys and stooges of the real owners and controllers of APC". Any Igbo who believed in the lie that the Igbos will get the presidency come 2023 by voting massively for Buhari & APC need to visit the nearest psychiatric hospital.It is impossible for a full blown jihadist (Buhari) to hand over power to igbos who he tag 5%, Disparage their women and kill hundreds of their harmless youths i.e Python dance |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by eezeribe(m): 8:01am On Aug 26, 2018 |
They should have known already, even before 2015... APC has no consideration for the South East, even in the smallest capacity.... |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by TMemos: 8:08am On Aug 26, 2018*. Modified: 9:58pm On Aug 26, 2018 |
The Igbos need to determine what exactly they want. They pass out contradictory messages too much. They say they want Biafra or nothing. In this report, they are worried that Presidency may not come their way in 2023. They say they don't need the Presidency to develop. They say they don't want APC, that APC will lose in 2019 and yet are worried about APC's choice for the Presidency in 2023. Confusion! Edit: Some of them are saying that it's their politicians and elite who want the Presidency and not their masses. They're saying their masses want Biafra. Help me ask them: how can their masses get Biafra without the support of their elite and politicians? Confusion! ![]() |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Aufbauh(m): 8:14am On Aug 26, 2018*. Modified: 8:31am On Aug 26, 2018 |
They Igbo have all the chance and the opportunity to have produce a President since the turn of this democracy (1999- till date), but their incoherent and uncoordinated approach has cost them the chance. I remembered how their top politicians were at the forefront of the coalision against rotational presidency. Maybe if they have allowed the voice of reason then, by now a president of Igbo extraction should have been serving. For he that will seek equity must do equity. |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by alizma: 8:19am On Aug 26, 2018 |
SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE? I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. REWIND TO 2014. A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests. Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC. We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall. Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got. That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric. We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region. Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla. Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju. It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? On what grounds? On what records? On what politics? Is power given to anyone? Is it an appeasement or a gift? The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell. For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language? I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us. I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities . As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it. Ka Chineke mezie okwu. (c) Dr Uche Diala |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Rilwayne001: 8:23am On Aug 26, 2018 |
TMemos:Talking about confused fellows isn't it obvious that they are confused and at the same time selfish. They want to eat their cake and have it, it's not done. Tinubu till Ipob get sense. Hehe |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by fk001(m): 8:23am On Aug 26, 2018 |
There will be no micro zoning but if SE show us their worth by working hard for APC then believe me you, 2023 the presidency is yours. Stop derailing the thread with long post. |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Shukuakukobambi: 8:25am On Aug 26, 2018 |
TMemos:I just tire ![]() You said APC is an Islamic party alien to your Christian region You say your destiny is PDP You say you're not interested in Nigerian presidency because it's a zoo You say APC will not get a single vote in biafra in 2019 You said APC will lose elections and scatter in 2019 You swear buhari is going back to Daura in 2019 Yet, inspite of all these, you're still bothered that APC might not give you ticket in 2019 What kind of confusion, childishness, greed is this? Why bother about what APC will do in 2023 when you swear it will cease to exist in 2019? Have they lost hope in a PDP victory or is their CUPP of confusion already leaking? ![]() |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Shukuakukobambi: 8:29am On Aug 26, 2018 |
eezeribe:Why are you bothered? ![]() You are sure APC will lose in 2019 because they'll not get a single vote in your biafra. Infact you swear it's biafra you want so why are you bothered about what APC will do in 2023? Do you want the presidential ticket of an Islamic and ewedu party? ![]() |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Nobody: 8:31am On Aug 26, 2018 |
They should contest on the Platform of PDP in 2023 or PDP is not also ready to give them ni. If u want the ticket on the platform of APC join and vote for them massively so that u can be part of decision making |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by WisdomFlakes: 8:34am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Igbos need to be pragmatic if truly they are serious about this presidency ambition. Power is not given. You don't just demand for power and have it given just like that, you must be ready and willing to negotiate for it from a position of strength -- that is what has often served the Northern bloc. Besides that, what are you bringing to the table? Igbos can't just demand for the presidency and expect other regions to just capitulate. They must be ready to bargain for it and carry others along in the process, while assuring that interests of other interested parties will be protected.
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| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Herdsmen: 8:38am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Rilwayne001:Not confused as tinubu..that keep shouting restructuring and federalism..same time ..lost in government Meanwhile What happened to Southwest call for regionalisms during ..3 republic.. Anywia Belle face .. |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Herdsmen: 8:39am On Aug 26, 2018 |
fk001:APC wey don dey enroute to daura..abi another APC? |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Herdsmen: 8:41am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Shukuakukobambi:See as southeast politicians dey make you sweat.. All this ontop southeast.. Igbos want Biafra.. APC politicians want power... You know what.. They are not relevant in scheme of things in Igboland.. We know wia they slavea are |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Corrinthians(m): 8:42am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Haba. Can we be honest with ourselves for once. Ndigbo hasn't played their cards well since 2015. They've refused to move on from Jonathan's defeat even when his very own kinsmen have. You don't gain political mileage by being needlessly antagonistic, you do by building alliances, making compromises, and building bridges. The earliest Ndigbo can produce the country's president as we speak is 2031 and I believe they will. Saying anyone is surprised the SW will produce the president after Buhari's second term is just being plain dishonest. In addition, given their posturing at the moment, if peradventure someone else from the North besides Buhari becomes the President, then it implies the earliest they'd produce president would be 2035 because I don't see such a candidate not going for a second term. All these (the likelihood of 2035) is ASSUMING a Vice President from the SE exists from 2023 - 2035. There's also another angle. If Buhari isn't returned and a South Westerner is chosen as the vice just to counter balance the Osinbajo effect during the polls, then it implies power might go to SW after the fresh candidate from PDP does two terms, which means the SE would be looking at genuine chances from 2043! These are the chances that exist given the nature of Nigerian politicospare. |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Herdsmen: 8:44am On Aug 26, 2018 |
TMemos:You just confused... Igbos want Biafra..and they've proved it over time.. Been jailed Killed.. Our mothers jailed Our fathers jailed.. And we must continue.. Your side chicks igbo politicians want power ..not igbos And this the whole world knows So quit confusing your brain You know the trutg |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Herdsmen: 8:45am On Aug 26, 2018 |
topeayan:Afonja and advice.. Hope regionalisms.. restructuring.. federalism..will wake up in Southwest..after you've been send back to daura |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Herdsmen: 8:47am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Wonder why any news from southeast ..or igbos always attract this afons.. What really happened to Southwest clamoring for regionalisms.. and true federalism.. They're in government.. Why's everyone silent |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Shukuakukobambi: 8:47am On Aug 26, 2018*. Modified: 11:41am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Herdsmen:The slaves are those whose destinies are tied to PDP but are less than useless there. Whatever is coming to the South from PDP henceforth belongs to Wike and you have mouth to talk? You that the army has been using for target practice since 1967 still doesn't know who the slaves are? You whose elders are trooping to Ota to beg OBJ for salvation from buhari still doesn't know who the slaves are? No wonder you've even become a herdsman who is no more useful than an online tout for PDP yet in your delusion, you still mention biafra. You're doomed to slavery as it is |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Herdsmen: 8:49am On Aug 26, 2018 |
See as Dem dey peep..
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| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Herdsmen: 8:49am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Shukuakukobambi:Bros wetin you dey type.. Is morning.. |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Wiseandtrue(f): 8:53am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Conduct referendum for the Ndigbo first! If they decided to remain then you can now talk of Igbo presidency! |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by sarrki(m): 8:53am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Corrinthians:Spot on |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Shukuakukobambi: 8:54am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Herdsmen:You want biafra but will rather die on top osun and ekiti election? You want biafra but are following the reallest afonja, Saraki, about like a slave? You want biafra but can't even tell where kanu is? |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by sarrki(m): 8:54am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Wiseandtrue:Shut up When elders are talking stop ranting |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Shukuakukobambi: 8:55am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Wiseandtrue:Why the hurry? When PDP will conduct it when they win or isn't that part of why you want to die for afonja Bukola Saraki? ![]() |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Herdsmen: 8:56am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Shukuakukobambi:You don't understand the logic.. And that's why.. people like you will keep shouting ipob..till you witness the birth of the great black nation Biafra. Till then back to daura is a duty.. . |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Herdsmen: 8:58am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Corrinthians:People wey chop president..how dia life and community be? Osibanjo and obasanjo presidency..change ikiri.gbogan modakeke Ife Oyo ijebu oshogbo ede ore ijesha ijebu Offa OTA kwara..even abeokuta.epe ikorodu shagamu badagry.. Abeg who presidency help.. who? Mr Corinthians.. |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by Wiseandtrue(f): 8:58am On Aug 26, 2018 |
sarrki: frustrated being them never pay you this month ![]() Typical of APC zombies when they don't have a cogent point to make, they result to insult! ![]() No dey show your aggression for here! Nobody ask you to perch your tent with failure ![]() Okay ![]() |
| Re: 2023 Presidency: Ndigbo Worried Over New Plot To Cede Power To S/west by sarrki(m): 9:00am On Aug 26, 2018 |
Wiseandtrue:I know that it’s not easy at your headquarters now With the threat of sack Just hold on Hold on |
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