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Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 7:20pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Olu317 these are all the questions you ignored These questions are not random questions, they are necessarily response to your post...I asked each based on something you said and only want you to go further and explain :You can click on the 'macof' links below to go back to the original posts macof: 2. (mother) iye = eym. you need to explain how 'Iye' evolved from 'eym'. ( a tip; you will need to provide some other examples that follow the same pattern of Iye = eym. p.s according to Hebrew dictionaries everywhere 'mother' is 'em(a)' or 'im(a)' https://www.pealim.com/dict/2664-em/ macof: macof: macof: macof: macof: macof:So here we are. This is how scholars do it, so don't be afraid, I'm sure you can defend your theories please we already have many questions, make me understand these 24 first before adding more to it..so just straight to it and no more bold claims 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 10:04pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
macof:Please go to all my posts because I have answered your questions. |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 10:44pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Olu317:I just did and i saw no answers. you can repost them here maybe they didn't get posted as you think |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 6:38pm On Sep 16, 2018 |
macof: 3. The 'aleph' ‘Ah' and 'mem' letters of the Hebrew alphabets which is equivalent to 'A' and 'M' in English so how does 'a,m' evolve to 'i,y,e' in yoruba language? Answer: Prior to the ,‘Aramaic' Era, in ancient Hebrew, each letter represents a sound and a concept. The first letter, (Note that Hebrew is read from right to left), is the aleph (pronounced ah-leph) and represents the "Ah" and "Eh" sounds. Aleph is a Hebrew word meaning "ox," and this letter is a picture of an ox head and represents the concept of "strength," from the strength of the ox. So contrary to your approach, several of the letter in the alphabet are very similar and can easily be confused with other letters'. So know that learning ancient Hebrew language is not like the way you source information via ‘pealim.com'.Below alphabet were how ancient Hebrew's word for ‘mother' was formed by a Rabbi and researcher; Aleph: a, e Yud : y, i Mem: m Thus , the word for ‘mother' were derived through the ancient Hebrew's picture that were interpreted. In fact,the spoken language in Judah and environ before it was lost was ,‘Aramaic' which was a language that was developed from ancient Hebrew and ended around 135AD in Middle East. 4. what is the yoruba name for Hebrews? and what part of Yoruba traditions, in what specific towns is it implied that Yoruba are Hebrews? You said yoruba have oral accounts of migration? migration from where? Answer: (a)There was nothing like Yoruba name for Hebrew neither did Hebrew names was their uniform name but a name of one of their ancestors known as ‘eber' (b) I am sure you known comparative study have been done on Yoruba ethnicity and Hebrew - meditterean .So, no need to ask me for more info. After all, you are a Historian. (c) Same as answer ‘b' Hebrew as a name was derived from name, ‘eber' 5. Kindly direct me to a link or at least a name, lets identify where you got the information from I know you still have questions i asked above, but because you wont let us deal with points one step at a time i have to ask more questions Answer: (a)I have given you authors books to enhance your study. Try do that to understanding what you dont know 6. Who are the other groups the Yoruba met as they were migrating down to Nigeria? And what part of Yoruba accounts confirm those foreign accounts, it is after all the yoruba that is being talked about, surely the yoruba accounts must give legitimacy to what ever foreign accounts Answer (a)In Yoruba(ILEIFE) oral history, there is an account in Ikedu king list which has accout that there were two kings during the 46th kings list which appeared to be the period when Odua & his group were acknowledged to have emigrated from somewhere through oke ora to Ileife . Below screenshot from, ART in ILEIFE,The Birth Place of Yoruba,acknowledged it. Perhaps it will refreshen your memory. (b) In as much oral account, has acknowledged it,and all Yoruba were linked together as a family, then they have nearly unified identity. The only difference was that they arrived differently to their first place of abode at different times before Odua and his group arrived later. 7. I have never heard of Ibn Battuta mentioning Yoruba in his Rihla account, unless you are referring to the baseless claim that he mentioned Ife as 'Yufi', in which case is completely off. So in what context and to what purpose did Battuta mention Yoruba? Because even Ahmed Baba is regarded as the first to mention yoruba in a written work (a)ohún tí édà o bá mó o sè'gbà é .So he Ibn Battusa made a baseless claim around 12th century? Very funny. And every Yoruba scholars that cited western resesrchers work of about 3000-4000 years ago of language divergence of Ibo and Yoruba is correct? I can see your view 8. so what part of Ahmed Baba's mention of Yoruba is evidence of a Hebrew origin for Yorubas? Answer (a)Youfi was IFE and IFE is Yoruba (b) Canaan was acknowledged as the ancient home of Yoruba in Ahmed Baba's account through Captain Clapperton's account, even if there was nothing concrete to proof it. 9. What names, people and towns outside yorubaland are the Yoruba linked to? asides maybe places in Igalaland with Ife-prefixes Answer (a) Yoruba in Bénin,Togo,Ghana,south America etc,tally through oral account,Sudan(bodily mark seen as same with a Yoruba group of Ijebu etc ), Ethiopia (circumcission of both male and female was and found in Yoruba land), North Africa's Morroco etc had a footprint of IFA/IFA practice but dissapeared from North Africa around 9th century and Egypt had an account of ‘Ilu',a town in lower Egypt. 10. what are these traces of non aboriginal narration in Ifa and who are these researchers? (a) Names of towns and period of formation of towns in the present day Yoruba history in Nigeria,such as ancient Àdo, Ìkólè,Ógbón,Orú etc are recorded in Ifa corpus account but didnt fit in toYoruba land narrative in Nigeria's because Orunmila existed before 11th-12th century.Infact, some scholar's account claim Orunmila lived 4000 years ago. 11. So are you saying Yoruba oral accounts are not authentic? Answer (a) As it is a normal with every migration of people,there are part of Yoruba account that were narrated but seen as a not too long ago ,which was due to gap in the history ( Dierk Lange,Bowen,Cotton etc). The first half of yoruba is lost,which what we are trying to unravel the same way the ancient Hebrew were lost and being searched for . So as you can see, the yoruba history in Nigeria, is the concluding part of ancient people who came from the land of ‘ORÚ' in Middle East. After all, Obatala's father,Olofin's ,Obawinrin's,Obalara's ancestors are not known. 12. what do you know about the ways of Yoruba ancestors? you are not even involved in Isese so what ways do you think you know and how did you come about knowing them? Answer . okay oooo iseserimi, I hear you. But please dont say this to me again because people like you kept claiming isese but you are boastful and betray the dont of our ancestors way of life. Plainly, you use negative word on people too often.Such as you can't be a role model in encouraging people into isese.So repent Sir.I was born into Isese.....So once you e engage me on issue,dont ever refer such to me again..
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Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 1:36am On Oct 01, 2018 |
You did not even address up to half of the points raised nor attempt most of the questions for 2 weeks Olu317:1. That is all very correct. 2. There is no confusion, Hebrew word for mother simply has two alphabets 'Aleph' and 'mem' which is transliterated to english as "Ema" or "Ama" How does this show any form of connection to "I-Y-E" that was the real question which you have not answered. 3. What is the name of this Rabbi? You should have known i would ask you did not even remotely answer the qestions 1. This is just a hypothesis that has been trashed. You like to talk about hebrew all the time, but still maintain an european medieval idea that has been trashed by improved studies of the modern era. 'Hebrew' is "Ibri/Ivri" in Hebrew language Since you inability to answer this question establishes that you do not know of the yoruba word for Hebrew, or any yoruba town that has has a tradition of descending from hebrews...so what exactly is your source? can you see that you are exposing yourself to making shit up from your ass? [you gave no books that correspond with what you have been claiming "Who are the other groups the Yoruba met as they were migrating down to Nigeria? And what part of Yoruba accounts confirm those foreign accounts, it is after all the yoruba that is being talked about, surely the yoruba accounts must give legitimacy to what ever foreign accounts" ^^^^this was my question, a very straight forward question.. you have not answered it Ikedu king list! have you come across this list? or have you come across anyone who has? ^Lets deal with what you really know about But actually what part of this your post here do you think addressing my question? how does Ikedu list have anything to do with People yoruba met before reaching Nigeria? I never said Ibn Battuta made a baseless claim, he was not a claimant of anything, his writting was simply about the things he saw and experienced as a traveller and explorer not historian, he was no historian I was saying the people who claim he mentioned Ife as 'Yufi' are wrong because Ibn Battuta never came near Yorubaland, his 'Yufi' was in east africa not west africa I have read two reviews of his Rihla Ahan! oga, why lie? Where did Ahmed Baba put 'canaan' and 'yoruba' in the same sentence? Ahmed Baba was not trying to be an historian like Clapperton Ahmed Baba was simply describing some West African people the Malians(in by extension his native Songhai) have significant trade with i know you do not know the context of which Ahmed Baba mentioned the Yoruba...so you can go find that out, take your time to be involved in actual fact finding with guidiance from those before you #
*facepalm* Yoruba in Benin, Togo, Ghana, South America? dude are you a dunce? I thought you were claiming yoruba migrated to Yorubaland from Israel. We all know how Yorubas got to South America...*coughs* slave trade.. Historians know how Yorubas got to Benin, Togo and built few communities in Ghana...Wars and Expansion ambition. These have nothing to do with Yoruba origin I'm so lost with the beginning of this part of your post. 1. What are the names of these ethnicities in Sudan, ethiopia and morrocco that are connected to Yoruba ps. There are countless african people who have body scarification that can be linked to Yoruba, as well as circumcision of girls and boys.. Speaking of which, if you were not trying so hard to push a claim that you yourself are not convinced of(just too ashamed to say you have no proper backings), you would know that Hebrew tradition forbids female circumcision as such the Yoruba who do practice a totally different tradition I asked what are the race of non-aboriginal narration in Ifa Please ask if you do not understand my english sir, instead of all this posting of things that have nothing to do with my question. i expected you to mention a place outside Nigeria that features in ifa as the place of origin for Yoruba, not mentioning places within Yorubaland This only shows that Ifa establishes an aboriginal status for Yoruba but how can you say you are trying to unravel this 'missing history' when you already have your conclusion before evidence? its like in mathematics, you already have your answer without showing how you got to the answer... wuruwuru You let evidence convince you, not you twist things to appear as what you already want to believe There are much parts of yoruba oral history that is rightly said, missing, but it takes dedicated study and initiation in the traditions to know enough to build the bridges and seal the gaps negative words? like i call out stupid things when i see it? i laugh, you think Isese is a tradition of roses and back massages? Isese is harsh and straight... No Isese person will try to make you feel as if you are more than what you are You are just lying now you this church boy claiming isese online.. ok ni bo lo gba ikin e? abi se o ti gbe Igba odu? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:21am On Oct 01, 2018 |
1. That is all very correct. 2. There is no confusion, Hebrew word for mother simply has two alphabets 'Aleph' and 'mem' which is transliterated to english as "Ema" or "Ama" How does this show any form of connection to "I-Y-E" that was the real question which you have not answered. Answer Who is your Hebrew instructor ? So, you think what you fused together are the correct form in ancient Hebrew? Beside, you don't know,how ‘ma' or ‘Ema' , was even derived. So don't bother yourself to use logic. Do you know English Language borrowed over 3000+ words from Roman's Latin, Spanish and others ? . Researchers indicate that English-Spanish cognates account for one-third of educated adult vocabulary (Nash, 1997) and 53.6 percent of English words are of Romance-language origin (Hammer, 1979). And Spanish from English are about 1,000 words that are cognates or are borrowed from a common language. So your ‘Ma' or , ‘Ema' that you thought had been contested against by other researchers , because English language did developed through different languages. Mind you, I posted the screenshot , why ask me this question again? 3. What is the name of this Rabbi? You should have known i would ask Answer The Rabbi is not the focal point but the ancient word list of Hebrew. If you need learn ancient Hebrew through modern Hebrew,then you are totally lost. Rabbi mean Master /Teacher in ancient Hebrew. you did not even remotely answer the qestions 1. This is just a hypothesis that has been trashed. You like to talk about hebrew all the time, but still maintain an european medieval idea that has been trashed by improved studies of the modern era. 'Hebrew' is "Ibri/Ivri" in Hebrew language Answer Oga , you have no idea of ancient Hebrew. Perhaps, you think the Aleph and mem are the factors of deciphering words in ancient Hebrew? No sir, there is more to it . So stop dabbling through imaginary means . Kindly Pick up the advise rendered to you to read so as to enhance your knowledge on Middle East knowledge, precisely Hebrew. Since you inability to answer this question establishes that you do not know of the yoruba word for Hebrew, or any yoruba town that has has a tradition of descending from hebrews...so what exactly is your source? can you see that you are exposing yourself to making shit up from your ass? Answer Stop it, what ass exposure? Even with Screenhot I posted to support my view and research ? You are a joke! you gave no books that correspond with what you have been claiming. Answer Haaaa go back and check the fve books I posted for you to enhance yourself . "Who are the other groups the Yoruba met as they were migrating down to Nigeria? And what part of Yoruba accounts confirm those foreign accounts, it is after all the yoruba that is being talked about, surely the yoruba accounts must give legitimacy to what ever foreign accounts" Answer The Yoruba account from oral say, Oke Ora was the place through Olofin entered the settlement. Do you know , Ke Ra, exist in Egypt too? . Can you explain to us how Yoruba language had a touch of Egypt's lexicon? Then, why do some other descendants of other groups call olofin an Usurper? Yet, his father was not known nor the father of the man, who he was accused of usurping. May be, you know the history of Olofin's father and his contemporaries ? If so, share it. ^^^^this was my question, a very straight forward question.. you have not answered it Ikedu king list! have you come across this list? or have you come across anyone who has? ^Lets deal with what you really know about. Answer There is Ikedu list and part of what I know is that, there were people known as leaders and there were claim about the kinglist before Olofin showed up. So, don't break up what is in the public domain through oral account . Do you know IFE fought civil war during Olofin and Oranmiyan's time ? These wars were even conscripted as one in Susan Blier's book. Despite this error, as you can see, I intend not to footdrag this, Sir! But actually what part of this your post here do you think addressing my question? how does Ikedu list have anything to do with People yoruba met before reaching Nigeria? Answer Yes, it did because, that was the melting point that changed the face of Yoruba land. Do you even know, how many people had been conscripted as Yorubas? Ancient Oriki pieces everyone identity in Yorubaland. Olofin dynasty sustained the family tie kind of kings and their kingdoms, which is termed, ‘ DIVINE'-ORI CONCEPT, will help you understand this. I never said Ibn Battuta made a baseless claim, he was not a claimant of anything, his writting was simply about the things he saw and experienced as a traveller and explorer not historian, he was no historian. Answer Nobody was any historian but clerics, warriors, travellers account that's been documented are sources to reference,in the ancient times. So, what is the problem with such. The people's of old Greek, Roman etc weren't historians too, if your concept of historians are based on modern termilogy. I was saying the people who claim he mentioned Ife as 'Yufi' are wrong because Ibn Battuta never came near Yorubaland, his 'Yufi' was in east africa not west africa Answer Yufi is just wrongly spelt form of IFE because of lettering problems . Beside, in French Language i=e(english pronunciation ). French j=g(English pronunciation). Consult a French person to know this Sir. I have read two reviews of his Rihla Ahan! oga, why lie? Where did Ahmed Baba put 'canaan' and 'yoruba' in the same sentence? Ahmed Baba was not trying to be an historian like Clapperton Ahmed Baba was simply describing some West African people the Malians(in by extension his native Songhai) have significant trade with i know you do not know the context of which Ahmed Baba mentioned the Yoruba...so you can go find that out, take your time to be involved in actual fact finding with guidiance from those before you. Answer Ahmed Baba's account is written in Hausa's Ajami sultanate account that predated the reader to clapperton. So stop this view that has no base. Are you saying, a white man that is filled with pride, will ever want to say this to the whole world for ego? May God help you oo. Yoruba in Benin, Togo, Ghana, South America? dude are you a dunce? I thought you were claiming yoruba migrated to Yorubaland from Israel. We all know how Yorubas got to South America...*coughs* slave trade.. Historians know how Yorubas got to Benin, Togo and built few communities in Ghana...Wars and Expansion ambition. These have nothing to do with Yoruba origin Answer What's your point? I referred to this places as migration causes,so what's your point? So you don't IFA-AFA existed in North Africa ? If so, why the cognate? And this AFA disappeared without a trace. How could this be? I am not going to train you on it, but you find it out. Please, don't say Ibo has AFA ,too because, they could not showcase it in United Nations World heritages . This simply means, they can't defend it , as Yoruba IFA had been shown to the world. I'm so lost with the beginning of this part of your post. 1. What are the names of these ethnicities in Sudan, ethiopia and morrocco that are connected to Yoruba ps. There are countless african people who have body scarification that can be linked to Yoruba, as well as circumcision of girls and boys.. Speaking of which, if you were not trying so hard to push a claim that you yourself are not convinced of(just too ashamed to say you have no proper backings), you would know that Hebrew tradition forbids female circumcision as such the Yoruba who do practice a totally different tradition Answer So, you expect me to explain these things to you? Are you no more a history enthusiast or more precisely, historian? Visit libraries or Google Books on the Ancient Sudan and Ethiopia to know more on Africa history. The pioneer of ruling class in Egypt and ,Amun/Ammon cult . I asked what are the race of non-aboriginal narration in Ifa Please ask if you do not understand my english sir, instead of all this posting of things that have nothing to do with my question Answer This question you ask is non relevant to what is at stake. So, Null and void. Perhaps, you know what it means,when elders says, ‘À kí fí omo ìré bo ìré'. i expected you to mention a place outside Nigeria that features in ifa as the place of origin for Yoruba, not mentioning places within Yorubaland This only shows that Ifa establishes an aboriginal status for Yoruba. Answer Before Judaism, Ephod begun in the land of JUDAH and Israel. The western historians have not been able to explain the exact meaning of Ephod. And the Biblical account , a part said Duad(David) consulted Ephod . Again in Morocco, AFA had footprint. but how can you say you are trying to unravel this 'missing history' when you already have your conclusion before evidence? its like in mathematics, you already have your answer without showing how you got to the answer... wuruwuru Answer What is the conclusion? Unravel, means, to reveal or you have your own meaning for this word ‘unravel'. You let evidence convince you, not you twist things to appear as what you already want to believe Answer Twist what now? Show me where I twisted anything ? I ask you people simple questions but no answers. After all, you have become b, a teacher, on line, with these questions.... You distract me. There are much parts of yoruba oral history that is rightly said, missing, but it takes dedicated study and initiation in the traditions to know enough to build the bridges and seal the gaps Answer Dedication to study? Yes. But initiation? No.After all, many people are initiate, even white men were. Did they know more than what has been written ? No No No . Until you understand that Yoruba history from within has some few lapse without proper documentation but through their oral account and Yoruba language, such people's history can be solved with comparison against other people's culture and language. . negative words? like i call out stupid things when i see it? i laugh, you think Isese is a tradition of roses and back massages? Isese is harsh and straight... No Isese person will try to make you feel as if you are more than what you are Answer I thought you claimed to be an initiate, if then learn to eschew discipline and tolerance.After all, there are code of conduct in Iledi. You are just lying now you this church boy claiming isese online.. ok ni bo lo gba ikin e? abi se o ti gbe Igba odu? Answer Just imagine this question? What has church or mosque got to do with one's ésìn àbàl'àyè ? oh k Ooo , you are the juju man . As far as I am concerned,I don't have time to make mockery nor scare anyone as you litter the internet with the wrong impression you want readers to perceive Yoruba tradition negatively. Anyway, 28years+ ago, what knowledge do know about Igba Odu? . If you and I stood before an IFA PRIEST, after he dà'fá in our presence, you will bow to me . It has been proven several times with such people like you. 1 Like |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Ayobami7(m): 12:33pm On Nov 09, 2018 |
this is my comment |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by lawani: 4:48pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
Over 50% of Yoruba language is derived from the kemitic Egyptian of 5000 years ago. This was also the language spoken by the Hebrews when they were slaves in Egypt. |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Nobody: 1:26pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Yolober won be isreali Jew 1 Like |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:24am On Nov 15, 2019 |
Ardar:lol! Ignorance is your name. Kindly go ask what is the pictographs on Opa Oranmiyan's obelisk? Go study jaare |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 6:36am On Nov 19, 2019 |
lawani:No Sir, I disagree with your postulation because Kemt understanding of the language of the Ora migrants into Egypt was actually different from both the Abari(Hebrew) or the ancient Yoruba people. Kemitic people or Egyptian painted this personality's picture as a horn man god in their writing while the Hebrew understood that Ora/Aram and Yoruba Oram ife as a powerful leader that was a mighty man who walk on earth with mystical knowledge. Interestingly , the language of semitic people evolved around this mysterious man's land which was in ‘Or' , in present day Iraq and span to Nineveh or Mesoptemia while Yoruba group understand the name as Ileife / Nineife/NinuIfe according Yoruba myth though Yoruba did a lot sustaining the language but without a standard form. So,it is an assumption on your part to pinned Yoruba's language to Africa in Egypt. As a matter of fact, the Yoruba language was a teacher's language because when a teacher's language arrive into a community, it gradually becomes the toast to the learners,who will naturally switch between the loaned words of the teachers language and the autochthonal language. Look around the Yoruba's neighboring groups and see the teacher's language that are Yoruba's. This Yoruba mastery and her shared words has root via Ifaodu corpus while the learners can't defend how the root words came to be in their lexicon. This is the reason everyone or group who claimed Afa or Fa etc could shy away from what Yoruba did by showcasing their own version of Ifaodu religion in United Nation World Heritage. If you doubt Yoruba language as the teacher's language, why did Coptic Christians language died in Egypt after the departure of the speakers? Even scantly speakers of it are not found except as a litturgy. Funnily, the ancient Coptic Christian language shared same cognates through reconstructed form of proto language with the present day Yoruba language speakers. 1 Like |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 10:56am On Jun 20, 2021 |
How many years this one cannot still answer simple questions to defend his obsession I pity anybody who takes this Olu guy seriously 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by KingOKON: 8:37pm On Jun 24, 2021 |
Olu317 the man with metallic abi which gene him call am, so you are now deaf and dumb ehn? |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by rhektor(m): 9:18am On Jul 03, 2021 |
KingOKON: Olu317 will soon open another thread of lies, he busy cooking it |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 11:18am On Jul 08, 2021 |
KingOKON:Smiles. 1. You do not draw my attention with vulgar words on my personality and expect me to answer you. 2. You can not expect me to dole out my research work without publication and expect me to be paid for it. 3. Intellectual property right protection is one reason I do not intend to post my information on Yoruba people as you desired of me. While someone else use it before my work being released 4. I have never posted anything that is not written in books,in which my research work is based. While going further, I deliberately engage people of different dialect speakers of Yorubas except Igala, whose language do not pass the required percentages to be called Yoruba language. 5. Kindly go to the Yoruba Hebrew thread to read what I had posted in the past. 6.On a lighter note, I will share information accrodingly to your questions if your questions are within my cope. |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by rhektor(m): 11:37am On Jul 08, 2021 |
Olu317: Olu317 the fraudulent Hebrew is here 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 3:37pm On Apr 18 |
macof: Are these your best? Point of correction: Isese is not "very harsh", harsh people are in every human society, the purpose of Yoruba traditional practice is "kilu le tuba, kotu se", how do you do harsh to have a peaceful society (kilu tuba) that is the projection of Yoruba tradition? But wicked cultists will always promote their trade under the guise of "Isese". Yoruba religion is "esin abalaye", not "isese". Talo te o nifa? Igba wo lo wo 'gbodu? There's no igba in ifa, its opon, ifa and apo ifa, and then akapo. Tou will find igba with Osun sengese,awede koto wemo. Ma gbo'mo Oba f'Osun pelu Yoruba egbe legbe ede Oyinbo professor. You can't speak Yoruba and an "unknown Yoruba dialect" in the same sentence made up of simple clause: nibo lo gba ikin e. Is that a "Yoruba-broken" or something? Rather if you will close with Yoruba proper, it should be "nibo lo ti..." Mind you, I wont respond to your bitter quote, I can't go through your "ojo n ro" kind of argument afresh. Hope to hear from your agents.
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Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 9:47am On Apr 19 |
absoluteSuccess:Why would you think I would read all this madness? |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:47am On Apr 27 |
absoluteSuccess:Interesting . I strongly believe, macof needs not be answered. People tend to cover up their ignorance with deceit. You can imagine, "one who does not know ,does not want to learn to know, but thinks he knows , will be a perpetual fool." Asking silly question as he did,only showcase how untrained he is, actually! May be he is a yahoo yahoo guy, who thinks, one needs to "tẹ̀" to live a fake life in abundance or penury . Ẹni tí ẹyin ojú rẹ tí fọ ti o ni oùn ríran lọ́ọrọ̀ ọjọgbọn macof ti o pè ara rẹ ni atọ́nísọ́ná làì mọ̀ ráaráa pe oùn gangan ni aṣínílọ́ná. macof kò mọ̀ iyatọ láarin ẹsin iṣẹṣe áti ẹsin kiristẹni pẹ̀lú musulumi. Nìtòri pe ti o ba mọ̀ kò ṣóro fún làti mọ̀ pe Orí ẹni láwúrè ẹni tí gbé'ni de ipo ọbá bẹẹ́ni Iwà alátúnto ẹni Ifá ni Orí àti Iwà n tọ́run bọ̀ wá si isálúayé Iwà níkan lo sọ̀rọ̀ bi ẹni ba ni irè gbogbo ti ò ni Iwà irè gbogbo tío ni ti ẹni ẹlẹ́ni ni Iwà níkan lo sọ̀rọ̀ Sincerely, I appreciate your steadfastness on the search for authentic Yoruba identities. It is my coherent believe that we shall get there. Cheers. |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 10:30pm On May 05 |
Olu317: Hmm, Enire, eku ohun, Eku ojo meta. O to ojo meta kan ti okan mi ti nfa sii yin, e seun. Ayun yin yunmi lopolopo, eku aibinu. Mo gba ladura pe Eleda a maa sowa lowo awon eni ibi ati ajambakuala. Ifa so wipe, Ori iya eni nii bani soro nibi giga. Ki Ori maa kowa yo l'owo awon abinu eni. I am happy to read from you as always. Its very important to show that the fellow is such a deep fake who robs it on the Yoruba that he's invisible. But great souls like you and some of us can see through his deep fake, how? Here's someone who claim "Isese is harsh". So, what repository of history is in Isese? How does that comes from a traditional enthusiast about the same tradition he claims to uphold? Observe his remark on Ahmad Baba’s “Mi’raj al-Su’ud”, what would it take this presupposed "well-read-man" to cite a snippet from what he has read? by implication, this guy will possibly take every book off the library if it never agrees with his projection of what he thinks to be "true". Then, whatever comes as "knowledge" is a "cult object" to him. How will knowledge ever grow when a know-it-all questions everyone but those he questions are below his rank to dare ask him a question? That's grandiose delusion. Now back to Isese, it was just harsh...that's hypnotism. okay we agree isese is harsh, how is that oral historical or proof of anything? Meanwhile, in Sources Of Yoruba History, Wande Abimbola shared Yoruba history from the confines of Ifa. likewise, the history of Awori will never be deciphered except we look back into its verb form "Iwori-" which is a title in Ifa. If that holds to be true, then it abrogates long held tradition of a sinking dish and project a "Awori" as word family of Iwori. In extension, every Yoruba place name are decipherable in Yoruba language and were snippets of Yoruba history. If this guy is ignorant of ro as soft, so what else can I say? I think the liar needs to always shout and say trash to cover for his ignorance. He couldn't fully comprehend my last post due to the Yoruba piece in it. He has already served his use though. I bet we can never ever go through that same rat race of those days over again, we have done exactly what life set us up to do, the rest is history, for each and everyone of us, our works stands sure. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 11:50am On May 12 |
absoluteSuccess:I replied your post two days after I saw it but frustration from BOT.It is highly discouraging to me and tt makes this platform less interesting to me. However, it remains a delight to read from you , omo obatala obatasa oba tatakun takun lode iranje. |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 9:21pm On May 23 |
Olu317: LOL boss, please don't be discouraged. Let me quote Mr. Bone here: "there's no elephant that finds its own trunk too heavy to carry". our "knowing" is a permanent cross we have to carry. Evolution is already telling on us, so please cheer up. We've done our bit and we have to move on. We won't be here forever talking about this. Time to move on has come. I think we did our best. Thanks for the recourse to my ancient roots. I am extremely blessed by your handle, and some of your ideas are subconsciously mine now. I'll surely hear from you in real time, do more and teach the best of our history. Omo Luusi Ekun. Omo onimole, (luci-: otan, onitanna) to di imole to tan kari aye. Toto, mo j'uba f'agba. 1 Like |
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