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ugo4u:
Yes, with the video I saw they probably ejected at below 4000ft.

Odunayaw:
You're actually in a good position to attribute to anything seeing how comfy your sofa is

lionel4power:
@odunayaw

the first thing they teach you in flight school is never eject upside down.. or in any position other than straight.

when ejecting, you put your arms and legs deep inside the "protective" cover of the 0-0 ejection seat.


0-0 ejection seats have sufficient rocket booster to thrust the pilot in a safe enough distance vertically from the ground before the parachute is deployed. That's why it's called "zero-zero".

the only fathomable reason a pilot will eject in the wrong orientation is if he is losing consciousness or vertigo induced blackout (or redout) as the case maybe.

however, such incidents are rare and are usually prevented by the use of modern pilot G-suits.

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in the Nigerian F-7Ni case, I'll attribute the pilot's death to lack of proper training in ejection procedure or the use of non-modern ejection seat.

ugo4u:
Some ejector seats have sensors to correct Pilots attitude during upside sown ejection.

nemesis8u:
Correct yet not correct

lot of variables r involved during ejection, one of which might prove fatal eg unsafe orientation of the aircraft etc etc
Eg. If the aircraft is almost at stall speed and close to the ground but inclined side ways or upside down at the time of ejection due to unstable roll , what will happen to the seat trajectory, will it be within safety margins ?

Negative G is more dangerous than positive G. Seat stabilization mechanism exists but then it's performance depends on lot of factors. Then there is potent windblast, unsafe landing orientation etc

Generally pilots who eject dont return to fighter flight duties again, they r deployed to transport flight duties.
It depends on the injuries sustained.

Best option not to get in a situation where u need to eject. It's the last thing a pilot wants to experience. But it gives good fighting chance for the lady luck to come in.

lionel4power:
@odunayaw

the first thing they teach you in flight school is never eject upside down.. or in any position other than straight.

when ejecting, you put your arms and legs deep inside the "protective" cover of the 0-0 ejection seat.


0-0 ejection seats have sufficient rocket booster to thrust the pilot in a safe enough distance vertically from the ground before the parachute is deployed. That's why it's called "zero-zero".

the only fathomable reason a pilot will eject in the wrong orientation is if he is losing consciousness or vertigo induced blackout (or redout) as the case maybe.

however, such incidents are rare and are usually prevented by the use of modern pilot G-suits.

-----
in the Nigerian F-7Ni case, I'll attribute the pilot's death to lack of proper training in ejection procedure or the use of non-modern ejection seat.

lionel4power:
@odunayaw

the first thing they teach you in flight school is never eject upside down.. or in any position other than straight.

when ejecting, you put your arms and legs deep inside the "protective" cover of the 0-0 ejection seat.


0-0 ejection seats have sufficient rocket booster to thrust the pilot in a safe enough distance vertically from the ground before the parachute is deployed. That's why it's called "zero-zero".

the only fathomable reason a pilot will eject in the wrong orientation is if he is losing consciousness or vertigo induced blackout (or redout) as the case maybe.

however, such incidents are rare and are usually prevented by the use of modern pilot G-suits.

-----
in the Nigerian F-7Ni case, I'll attribute the pilot's death to lack of proper training in ejection procedure or the use of non-modern ejection seat.

rka2:
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Haba! The pilot died because his helmet dislodged during the ejection process and he suffered head injuries.

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/buhari-visits-pilots-injured-in-plane-crash.html

doziex:
Guys, me I blame CAS for this accident. What was he thinking trying to show off NAF's capabilities, when NAF is at war on several complicated fronts, with very few platforms available.
If aerobatics interests him, he should make available platforms and units for aerobatics. Not canibalize the limited capacity of a fighting force needlessly put on a shoestring budget.

If the CAS was optimally resourceful, NAF should at least possess a wing of Alpha jets and a wing of F7s. With no additional funding.

The Pakistanis have retired and upgraded all their F7s. This gives you about a hundred planes and parts which they are ready to sell at "fly away" prices.

The alpha jets were bought up by private enthusiasts e.g John Travolta. When they were retired from Franco German fleets.

We could continue to ramp up numbers and parts from these sources.

DDGN:
Plzzz rest

doziex:
Guys, me I blame CAS for this accident. What was he thinking trying to show off NAF's capabilities, when NAF is at war on several complicated fronts, with very few platforms available.
If aerobatics interests him, he should make available platforms and units for aerobatics. Not canibalize the limited capacity of a fighting force needlessly put on a shoestring budget.

If the CAS was optimally resourceful, NAF should at least possess a wing of Alpha jets and a wing of F7s. With no additional funding.

The Pakistanis have retired and upgraded all their F7s. This gives you about a hundred planes and parts which they are ready to sell at "fly away" prices.

The alpha jets were bought up by private enthusiasts e.g John Travolta. When they were retired from Franco German fleets.

We could continue to ramp up numbers and parts from these sources.

Odunayaw:
I don't know where you got this. I follow pakdefense forums, quwa etc nothing suggest this fib you're telling. Besides if there exist any F7 they could hand down they must be very tired ones.

Well, its easy to be a member/chairman of Nairaland Advisory Board. So,knock yourself out

rka2:
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Haba! The pilot died because his helmet dislodged during the ejection process and he suffered head injuries.

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/buhari-visits-pilots-injured-in-plane-crash.html

lionel4power:
I'm sure you're aware that part of the job of an ejection seat is to pierce the acrylic bubble canopy of the aircraft during ejection.

most aircraft canopy do not have ejection mechanism therefore the ejection seat would need to destroy it with the force of the rocket booster.

And yes, using improper ejection seat would have caused the pilot's death.
or his helmet was not properly strapped on. (whose fault?)


anyway,

the pilot in picture 2 landed safely without serious harm even though his aircraft is practically immobile.

rka2:
The problem I have is you are speculating. Is there anything to suggest what you have stated above? The other 2 pilots ejected safely didn't they?

Pilots eject around the world several times a year. Some make it virtually unscathed, others are injured to varying degrees and some die. It doesn't mean there was something wrong with the ejection seat (although there have been malfunctions in the past) or the pilot wasn't trained in the ejection sequence (one of the first things you learn in ground school).

Why on earth would the NAF install an improper ejection seat?

rka2:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.facebook.com/britisharmy/videos/the-royal-anglian-regiment-have-built-a-strong-bond-with-the-troops-of-the-niger/10159275357860615/&ved=2ahUKEwj_54zJouXdAhVpBsAKHcECB3IQwqsBMAx6BAgJEAU&usg=AOvVaw3LyHuMssiB7MGM3NAF6WRh

1) NAF Regiment
2) NA training with the British in Jaji

lionel4power:
The problem I have with you is that you lack simple comprehension, coupled with your eagerness to always start a quarrel.

The discussion was 'what killed the pilot?"

I attributed it to either lack of proper training in ejection procedure.

or

the use of non -zero-zero ejection seat.


all of it is just pure conjecture, you could have provided a counter argument.

Which you're incapable of.

maybe I was expecting too much from you.

bidexiii:
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joshingjosh:
Baba abeg you get the videos??