₦airaland Forum

PassingShot:
Who are the we? You can't even speak for 5 people.

contigiency:
No problem since it has been demystified by you and your folks. but don't come here and start shouting how the election was rigged.

Purehuman:
Have u gone to pan Igbo forum thread. Check if anyone is even looking at the lifeless one.

PassingShot:
In 2015, PMB didn't score 10% in the whole of SE, yet he won.

In 2019, he will score nothing less than 30% across the length and breadth of SS/SE, he will win big.

Sanchez01:
That was 2015. Ask yourself what has changed from that time till this day.

Security wise, we all know Fulani Herdsmen are hibernating because of Buhari. We also know they will continue if he wins and none of them will be apprehended let alone prosecuted.

Exactly why people desperately looked away from Jonathan are the reasons why people are looking away from Buhari.

fratermathy:
The truth is that, as an individual, I really don't care about where the candidates come from because it doesn't mean jack. However, you and I know that we live in a very volatile nation where ethnic and regional interest and identity very much dwarf nationalism and fairplay. No matter how we see it, the bulk of Nigerians will tilt to the familiar and the familiar in this case is of someone that appears to be like us or bears a name that sounds like ours is in power.

This is the reality of Nigerian politics. Even when we know the politicians will not do anything for their regions, their people will still prefer that they are there, at the least, for bragging rights.

Then again, we have the case of underrepresented minorities who demand inclusiveness in the affairs of the nation. Minorities will always support someone they feel can protect their interest in a nation where the 3 so-called majorities don't acknowledge their existence.

goaldynman:

Rubbish!

[b]Southeast will rather vote for a smaller party if PDP disrespect them by picking the VP from another region!

Mind you Southeast is an enlightened region! The people don't vote like zombie that can vote without calculation!

This is why Southeast will still vote for Goodluck if he recontest with Buhari tomorrow, even if they know Buhari will win! This is because they know and are enlightened that Buhari does not have anything to offer!

fratermathy:
Most of the political pundits online seem to tie the fate of the SS and SE together without realising the diversity of political views and ethnic interests in the SS. The SE is one but the SS is a group of more than 30 disparate people. To bring them as one, Atiku needs to give us a rallying point and that rallying point has to be a VP slot.

The swing region is the SS. The SE has no choice but to vote Atiku. The SW may not vote for Atiku regardless of who his VP is but the SS can give Atiku a bloc vote of 8m if he plays his cards right. He has to get a VP from the SS. SE is already certain for him. SW will be difficult for him even with a VP slot but a SS VP slot will consolidate his message of restructuring and true federalism. It will fetch him votes from states that may otherwise be divided and it will also curry him the favour of SEners that may not want a SWner as VP as well as SWners that many not want a SEner as VP. Its a win-win.

All he needs to do is to get someone with widespread influence in the SS. Then he can promise the SW the position of SFG or SP.

PassingShot:
Can you swear that Security has not improved since PMB came on board?

Are you referring to politically sponsored herders?

madridsta007:
If you think the SE will vote someone who sent in soldiers to brutalise and kill their sons, then you simply do not know the SE.

Atiku should go in and pick someone from the SW if he wants to win.

Rstc:
We don't need to vote buhari to show our displeasure.
We will just sit at home since there is nothing for us and buhari will win easily.

40% from the south west is not worth it, if it means losing the East, and he will lose the East if he tries any nonsense.

fratermathy:
Most of the political pundits online seem to tie the fate of the SS and SE together without realising the diversity of political views and ethnic interests in the SS. The SE is one but the SS is a group of more than 30 disparate people. To bring them as one, Atiku needs to give us a rallying point and that rallying point has to be a VP slot.

The swing region is the SS. The SE has no choice but to vote Atiku. The SW may not vote for Atiku regardless of who his VP is but the SS can give Atiku a bloc vote of 8m if he plays his cards right. He has to get a VP from the SS. SE is already certain for him. SW will be difficult for him even with a VP slot but a SS VP slot will consolidate his message of restructuring and true federalism. It will fetch him votes from states that may otherwise be divided and it will also curry him the favour of SEners that may not want a SWner as VP as well as SWners that many not want a SEner as VP. Its a win-win.

All he needs to do is to get someone with widespread influence in the SS. Then he can promise the SW the position of SFG or SP.

fratermathy:
I completely understand why you should disagree with my opinion but I stand by it. The party chairmanship can ALWAYS, and without notice, leave the SS in favour of a VP slot. The only buffer zone between the SE and SW is the SS and someone from this region can command some measure of votes and work assiduously with Atiku to garner more support in the South West and South East.

fratermathy:
Not. They are not one and the same. Stop trying to tie the fate of different people together. In the SS, we have the Urhobos, Binis, Ibibios, Efiks, Ikwerres, Ijaws, Ogonis, etc, and each of these people hold views and aspirations totally different from the SE people. The only reason you seem to think we vote as one is because of the party, not because of interest. Put interest at stake and that will be the day you realise that SE and SS have separate goals and political leanings.

As for the second part of your conjecture, I'll ignore it because it reeks of malice towards the SS. This is Nigerian politics! Anything is possible. It's better you understand that now.

PassingShot:
The battle will be very sweet and the victory will be even sweeter.

Head or tail, SW wins this one for PMB.

Should Atiku pick his VP from SE, it's a straight battle between SW and SE/SS.

Should he pick his VP from SW, the SE/SS will feel shortchanged and Buhari will even have it easier.

Note: Atiku will not see the tail of PMB in the presidential election in the North. It will be something in the ratio of 3:1 for PMB.

petsam11:
Bros! Initially I didn't want to talk I even crossed your comment and read till page 3 but I saw u replying to some ppl who quoted u and now I said I must talk...

Firstly, You just commented like the SE/SS are having issues without knowing that they are close pals regardless of what u might hear or see... And u forgot that SE voted Jonathan like their own son (don't tell me it is politics)

Brother! Pls, never u take the Southeast for a ride! Forget what u read and see online... Those people are bunch of highly enlightened people like someone stated above... An average Igbo Man can never be pushed around talk less pushing him around anyhow... He and even she knows his/her Onions!
So u think that, should Atiku and PDP decide to choose somebody else as Atiku's running mate the SE will act like zombies and still vote PDP...

Note: I am not a fan of where a leader comes from, all I am against is tyranny and wickedness against the other human being like we are seeing today... Even the blind can see it and the deaf hear it clearly!

So like I was saying, don't ever think that the SE can be taken for a ride... Even if they eventually vote for PDP, know u that they have their reasons... But to think that they have no choice is leaving in fools paradise...

Imagine what has been going on in the East wen someone and ppl who don't occupy any political posts in Nigeria would tell ppl to sit at home and they do it willing because they know that they are fighting for a cause... Now, have u bothered to ask what this kind of thing, the consequences that this can cause the PDP and Atiku if the SE and as well all Igbos voters outside the SE (just like someone above helped enlighten you that more Igbo "voters" are outside the southeast than in the Southeast) decide to sit at home on that very day Not because they were told by any group to sit at home but because they feel that in reality, they wer insulted and looked down on

Do u think that PDP can really go fsrther the way they want
Don't believe all this talks online that SE and Igbo votes don't matter... Let me tell u brother, in this present election, it (more than) really matters if u are really a political analyst u should understand and know better!

You cannot insult an Ignore man brother and just go free you use pay one way or the other (don't call it cheastbeating). You might think he (Igbo Man) loves money, yes he does love money and so does everybody else! But most Igbo men are highly enlightened... They will eat your money and sit at home when provoked and when they hate you! That's an Igbo man for you! They will eat your money and do the right thing! They ain't Zombies!

Mind you, this is a North-North election, everybody needs to get and break more barriers than he can get so as to urge mentioned for the divides in the NW/NE

Please SE/SS are brothers and friends all in one! Forget what u hear about Igbo ppl wanting to take SS oil. Now everybody knows who the real "takers" of Sas oil are, whether the SE get oil and whether they have many other means of livelihood!

Note:
#SoutheathernsAreNotZombiesAsManyThink
Peace be unto you!
Guten Morgen!!!

100kobo ghostfacekillar sogodihno

safarigirl:
tell me ONE time when SS has voted away from the pattern of SE

There are still the Igbo tribe in the same SS and in places like Delta and Rivers they have a substantial size. In the history of Nigeria, the SS has always aligned with the SE politically, the fact that you are here spinning your own tale cannot and will never change thay


Maybe you get one uncle wey win comot for VP. Just remove your mind from there because e no dey happen. And if you don't know, the SE is not permanently PDP. They are a people with their own mind, they do not get moved easily. If you mess with them, they will not lie down and take rubbish.

If PDP has sense, they know who to give VP to and your SS is nowhere near the equation. Hold that Chairmanship position with tight hand. We are not stupid

safarigirl:
tell me ONE time when SS has voted away from the pattern of SE

There are still the Igbo tribe in the same SS and in places like Delta and Rivers they have a substantial size. In the history of Nigeria, the SS has always aligned with the SE politically, the fact that you are here spinning your own tale cannot and will never change thay


Maybe you get one uncle wey win comot for VP. Just remove your mind from there because e no dey happen. And if you don't know, the SE is not permanently PDP. They are a people with their own mind, they do not get moved easily. If you mess with them, they will not lie down and take rubbish.

If PDP has sense, they know who to give VP to and your SS is nowhere near the equation. Hold that Chairmanship position with tight hand. We are not stupid

petsam11:
Bros! Initially I didn't want to talk I even crossed your comment and read till page 3 but I saw u replying to some ppl who quoted u and now I said I must talk...

Firstly, You just commented like the SE/SS are having issues without knowing that they are close pals regardless of what u might hear or see... And u forgot that SE voted Jonathan like their own son (don't tell me it is politics)

Brother! Pls, never u take the Southeast for a ride! Forget what u read and see online... Those people are bunch of highly enlightened people like someone stated above... An average Igbo Man can never be pushed around talk less pushing him around anyhow... He and even she knows his/her Onions!
So u think that, should Atiku and PDP decide to choose somebody else as Atiku's running mate the SE will act like zombies and still vote PDP...

Note: I am not a fan of where a leader comes from, all I am against is tyranny and wickedness against the other human being like we are seeing today... Even the blind can see it and the deaf hear it clearly!

So like I was saying, don't ever think that the SE can be taken for a ride... Even if they eventually vote for PDP, know u that they have their reasons... But to think that they have no choice is leaving in fools paradise...

Imagine what has been going on in the East wen someone and ppl who don't occupy any political posts in Nigeria would tell ppl to sit at home and they do it willing because they know that they are fighting for a cause... Now, have u bothered to ask what this kind of thing, the consequences that this can cause the PDP and Atiku if the SE and as well all Igbos voters outside the SE (just like someone above helped enlighten you that more Igbo "voters" are outside the southeast than in the Southeast) decide to sit at home on that very day Not because they were told by any group to sit at home but because they feel that in reality, they wer insulted and looked down on

Do u think that PDP can really go fsrther the way they want
Don't believe all this talks online that SE and Igbo votes don't matter... Let me tell u brother, in this present election, it (more than) really matters if u are really a political analyst u should understand and know better!

You cannot insult an Ignore man brother and just go free you use pay one way or the other (don't call it cheastbeating). You might think he (Igbo Man) loves money, yes he does love money and so does everybody else! But most Igbo men are highly enlightened... They will eat your money and sit at home when provoked and when they hate you! That's an Igbo man for you! They will eat your money and do the right thing! They ain't Zombies!

Mind you, this is a North-North election, everybody needs to get and break more barriers than he can get so as to urge mentioned for the divides in the NW/NE

Please SE/SS are brothers and friends all in one! Forget what u hear about Igbo ppl wanting to take SS oil. Now everybody knows who the real "takers" of Sas oil are, whether the SE get oil and whether they have many other means of livelihood!

Note:
#SoutheathernsAreNotZombiesAsManyThink
Peace be unto you!
Guten Morgen!!!

100kobo ghostfacekillar sogodihno

fratermathy:
I have no quarrel with your analysis as having an opinion is a fundamental human right. However, my grouse is with the idea that many of you subsume the SS under the SE and that reeks of ill-will. Forget about what you know and think through: do you really believe that the more than 30 non-Igboid related ethnic groups in the SS do not have their own political leanings and identity? Capital NO!

In Delta State, for instance, Delta Central is now core APC. Delta South is divided. In Akwa Ibom, Ikot Ekpene district is now core APC. In Edo, APC wins the day. In Bayelsa, APC is forging on. In Rivers, APC is lurking behind. In Cross River, APC is booting. How then can you predict that the SS will give PDP bloc votes like the SE may?

The point I'm making is simple: speak authoritatively only of the SE. The SS may overwhelmingly be PDP oriented but we have our interests, demands, and peculiar political formations. Its better you guys understand that and stop lumping the entire SS, with all its diverse interests, with that of the SE just because the same party holds sway in both regions.

The SS has every right to demand for a VP slot and if we get it, we deserve it. We don't have to play pity politics when we know our place and position in the nation.

petsam11:
Bros! Initially I didn't want to talk I even crossed your comment and read till page 3 but I saw u replying to some ppl who quoted u and now I said I must talk...

Firstly, You just commented like the SE/SS are having issues without knowing that they are close pals regardless of what u might hear or see... And u forgot that SE voted Jonathan like their own son (don't tell me it is politics)

Brother! Pls, never u take the Southeast for a ride! Forget what u read and see online... Those people are bunch of highly enlightened people like someone stated above... An average Igbo Man can never be pushed around talk less pushing him around anyhow... He and even she knows his/her Onions!
So u think that, should Atiku and PDP decide to choose somebody else as Atiku's running mate the SE will act like zombies and still vote PDP...

Note: I am not a fan of where a leader comes from, all I am against is tyranny and wickedness against the other human being like we are seeing today... Even the blind can see it and the deaf hear it clearly!

So like I was saying, don't ever think that the SE can be taken for a ride... Even if they eventually vote for PDP, know u that they have their reasons... But to think that they have no choice is leaving in fools paradise...

Imagine what has been going on in the East wen someone and ppl who don't occupy any political posts in Nigeria would tell ppl to sit at home and they do it willing because they know that they are fighting for a cause... Now, have u bothered to ask what this kind of thing, the consequences that this can cause the PDP and Atiku if the SE and as well all Igbos voters outside the SE (just like someone above helped enlighten you that more Igbo "voters" are outside the southeast than in the Southeast) decide to sit at home on that very day Not because they were told by any group to sit at home but because they feel that in reality, they wer insulted and looked down on

Do u think that PDP can really go fsrther the way they want
Don't believe all this talks online that SE and Igbo votes don't matter... Let me tell u brother, in this present election, it (more than) really matters if u are really a political analyst u should understand and know better!

You cannot insult an Ignore man brother and just go free you use pay one way or the other (don't call it cheastbeating). You might think he (Igbo Man) loves money, yes he does love money and so does everybody else! But most Igbo men are highly enlightened... They will eat your money and sit at home when provoked and when they hate you! That's an Igbo man for you! They will eat your money and do the right thing! They ain't Zombies!

Mind you, this is a North-North election, everybody needs to get and break more barriers than he can get so as to urge mentioned for the divides in the NW/NE

Please SE/SS are brothers and friends all in one! Forget what u hear about Igbo ppl wanting to take SS oil. Now everybody knows who the real "takers" of Sas oil are, whether the SE get oil and whether they have many other means of livelihood!

Note:
#SoutheathernsAreNotZombiesAsManyThink
Peace be unto you!
Guten Morgen!!!

100kobo ghostfacekillar sogodihno

globemoney:
Peter Obi switched from Saraki to Atiku overnight. So desperate to be relevant lol

fratermathy:
I like your elucidation. Truly, the SS and the SE are brothers in many ways and no one is denying our shared heritage. In Delta State, where I grew up, Igbos are a central presence in everyday affairs. We all share a common ethos. However, this does not necessarily translate into socio-political identities, especially with the diversity of the SS.

For instance, Edo State is in the SS and they have never aligned themselves with the SE in anything as far as politics is concerned. In Delta State, Delta Central and Delta South have their own unique socio-political identity from the Anioma Delta North region (which may or may not look eastwards).

In Bayelsa, their socio-political identity is as unique as that of the SE. Although, the GEJ factor really aligned interests in 2015 but that was a long time ago. Many things have changed since then. Rivers State is a hotspot but generally more aligned with the SE. Akwa Ibom and Cross River States have their unique political leanings which are influenced by minority rights, resource control, federalism and better representation.

Now let's get to business:
The SS and SE seem to align whenever we have a common ground, as we have had in times past. Shift this common ground and you'd see that the SS has its diverse interests. If we have a party or candidate that appears to be committed to minority rights, resource control, equity, and other peculiar demands of the region, the SS will go towards that direction. If PDP selects a SSner as running mate, they would have committed themselves towards the region's interest in terms of minority representation. The problem that Delta and Rivers State delegates had with Atiku was that they felt he wouldn't represent the interest of the minorities well enough and thus, they supported Tambuwal. Now that Atiku won, he still has to prove that he can cater for minority interests as president and a big gesture, such as the VP slot, can seal that. The SE will still vote for Atiku regardless and the SW may or may not vote for him depending on his politicking.

#MyOpinion

danemenike:
VP position aspirant...

fratermathy:
Most of the political pundits online seem to tie the fate of the SS and SE together without realising the diversity of political views and ethnic interests in the SS. The SE is one but the SS is a group of more than 30 disparate people. To bring them as one, Atiku needs to give us a rallying point and that rallying point has to be a VP slot.

The swing region is the SS. The SE has no choice but to vote Atiku. The SW may not vote for Atiku regardless of who his VP is but the SS can give Atiku a bloc vote of 8m if he plays his cards right. He has to get a VP from the SS. SE is already certain for him. SW will be difficult for him even with a VP slot but a SS VP slot will consolidate his message of restructuring and true federalism. It will fetch him votes from states that may otherwise be divided and it will also curry him the favour of SEners that may not want a SWner as VP as well as SWners that many not want a SEner as VP. Its a win-win.

All he needs to do is to get someone with widespread influence in the SS. Then he can promise the SW the position of SFG or SP.

kaluxy007:
So you mean Yoruba would rather continue with hardship Cos they weren't given Vp slot??

Well well...their life which unfortunately affects mine

PassingShot:
In 2015, PMB didn't score 10% in the whole of SE, yet he won.

In 2019, he will score nothing less than 30% across the length and breadth of SS/SE, he will win big.

Tundeobama:
so their was plenty money and jobs during pdp Era?

VULCAN:
BMC's are consoling themselves with these type of fake calculations while real APC politicians are worried.

It's not good to be at the bottom of the food chain. You can't see what's coming till it's already on top of you!

kaluxy007:
So you mean Yoruba would rather continue with hardship Cos they weren't given Vp slot??

Well well...their life which unfortunately affects mine