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obailala:
The minimum requirement to contest for elective positions or to be appointed a minister in Nigeria is WAEC result. If lack of NYSC certificate becomes an issue for those you listed above, all they need do is just present their WAEC results.

Are you 100% sure of the emboldened? Because i very much doubt it.

TonyeBarcanista:
She only need to submit proof of being educated up to secondary school level.

obailala:
The minimum requirement to contest for elective positions or to be appointed a minister in Nigeria is WAEC result. If lack of NYSC certificate becomes an issue for those you listed above, all they need do is just present their WAEC results.

You are right. But what a smart opponent will do is just to instigate a case against them that they have committed a criminal offence by not submitting themselves for National service as demanded by Nigerian laws.

The outcome of the case is what will damage the affected person's candidacy.

This thread should be in the jokes session I swear!

0monnak0da:
But not eligible to hold any employment in Nigeria particularly in the public domain

PMB is using NEPA bill yet holding office in public domain.

globemoney:
You only need SSCE to contest election

It is a criminal offense to skip NYSC. She will be prosecuted anytime she returns to Nigeria. You guys can now see the silliness of that NYSC law.

0monnak0da:
The comment is for educated people.

If you are Nigerian and you graduate from university you MUST serve.
Must

No ifs no buts.
Failure to serve is punishable by prison

So those who graduated before the NYSC scheme was initiated, should go and re apply again abi?

obailala:
The minimum requirement to contest for elective positions or to be appointed a minister in Nigeria is WAEC result. If lack of NYSC certificate becomes an issue for those you listed above, all they need do is just present their WAEC results.

Very wrong. Any Nigerian that graduates before the age of 30 is under legal compulsion to do NYSC except such a person had served in the military or police force before graduating. Skipping NYSC is a criminal offense punishable by law. Criminal case will be instituted against her immediately she lands in Nigeria by SERAP and even political opponents. Why did you think APC screened out Shitu?

I think this is the time for all of us to demand for the amendment of that silly NYSC act and not start looking for loopholes for people we love. The NYSC table that fell Kemi Adeosun still have so many people on it. It will be over sensationalized in Ngozi Okonjo Iweala's case if true.

lol ... Madame Iweala dey fear some people o.

seunmsg:
It is a criminal offense to skip NYSC. She will be prosecuted anytime she returns to Nigeria. You guys can now see the silliness of that NYSC law.

No it is not. NYSC is not required in the electoral act. It is only required before you seek employment and getting employed without NYSC is the criminal act get your facts right

seunmsg:
Very wrong. Any Nigerian that graduates before the age of 30 is under legal compulsion to do NYSC except such a person had served in the military or police force before graduating. Skipping NYSC is a criminal offense punishable by law. Criminal case will be instituted against her immediately she lands in Nigeria by SERAP and even political opponents. Why did you think APC screened out Shitu?

I think this is the time for all of us to demand for the amendment of that silly NYSC act and not start looking for loopholes for people we love. The NYSC table that fell Kemi Adeosun still have so many people on it. It will be over sensationalized in Ngozi Okonjo Iweala's case if true.

agabusta:
You are right. But what a smart opponent will do is just to instigate a case against them that they have committed a criminal offence by not submitting themselves for National service as demanded by Nigerian laws.

The outcome of the case is what will damage the affected person's candidacy.

Being a graduate does not automatically make one a criminal simply because they don't have NYSC. I believe that is only necessary if you are vying for a position that requires your degree certificate (e.g. head of parastatals, public enterprises, civil service positions). If I dump my degree certificates and tender only my SSCE result as my highest qualification, I have no case to answer to anyone. This would be a very simple issue for the court to clarify if any so called political opponent decides to raise dust; this is very simple logic and the case would be thrown out sane day.

Kemi's case was different, she had a problem because she tendered a degree certificate and then submitted a fake NYSC document. She was simply bullied out of power. If she decided to fight it, she could have found a way out; just that the fake certificate made things a bit messy for her.

dustmalik:
Are you 100% sure of the emboldened? Because i very much doubt it.

For elective positions like president, gobernors, senators, reps, and even non elective ministerial positions, minimum requirement in terms of qualification is SSCE.

efechris:
So those who graduated before the NYSC scheme was initiated, should go and re apply again abi?

What has that got to do with this?
Who exactly is itt that graduated before the NYSC.
If you have nothing sensible to say why not keep quiet and stop ridiculing yourself

obailala:
For elective positions like president, gobernors, senators, reps, and even non elective ministerial positions, minimum requirement in terms of qualification is SSCE.

This is not a qualification issue
It is a criminality issue
Failure to serve is punishable by prison. It is a CRIME.
If you never knew that learn it today.
Just like some countries have compulsory military service with prison for defaulters so also for NYSC. It is mandatory for eligible people and not serving attracts 1 year in prison

obailala:
Being a graduate does not automatically make one a criminal simply because they don't have NYSC. I believe that is only necessary if you are vying for a position that requires your degree certificate (e.g. head of parastatals, public enterprises, civil service positions). If I dump my degree certificates and tender only my SSCE result as my highest qualification, I have no case to answer to anyone. This would be a very simple issue for the court to clarify if any so called political opponent decides to raise dust; this is very simple logic and the case would be thrown out sane day.

Kemi's case was different, she had a problem because she tendered a degree certificate and then submitted a fake NYSC document. She was simply bullied out of power. If she decided to fight it, she could have found a way out; just that the fake certificate made things a bit messy for her.

That is beer parlour logic.
Go and read the NYSC act 13(2)
You cannot Dump your certificate. Once you graduate before the age of 30 you MUST serve.
It is not optional
Not only must you serve failure to serve is punishable by prison.

globemoney:
No it is not. NYSC is not required in the electoral act. It is only required before you seek employment and getting employed without NYSC is the criminal act get your facts right

ÑYSC
Is nothing to do with electoral act.
It is a statutory civic obligation and failure to do so is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE.
That means any person who does not serve is liable to prosecution

0monnak0da:
This is not a qualification issue
It is a criminality issue
Failure to serve is punishable by prison. It is a CRIME.
If you never knew that learn it today.
Just like some countries have compulsory military service with prison for defaulters so also for NYSC. It is mandatory for eligible people and not serving attracts 1 year in prison

0monnak0da:
That is beer parlour logic.
Go and read the NYSC act 13(2)
You cannot Dump your certificate. Once you graduate before the age of 30 you MUST serve.
It is not optional
Not only must you serve failure to serve is punishable by prison.

So what if I dont graduate? So every non graduate in Nigeria is a criminal because they havent served?

obailala:
So what if I dont graduate? So every non graduate in Nigeria is a criminal because they havent served?

Go and learn English this is not the place for that.
This is for educated people with no comprehension problems
quote author=nelronaldo post=71906967]
Noted. My point is they haven't committed any crime whatsoever[/quote]13. Offences and penalties, etc.

(1) Any person—

(a) who fails to report for service in the service corps in the manner directed by the Directorate or as the case may be, prescribed pursuant to the provisions of this Act; or

(b) who refuses to make himself available for service in the service corps continuously for the period specified in subsection (2) of this section, is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine of N2,000 or to imprisonment for a term of twelve months or to both such fine and imprisonment

0monnak0da:
ÑYSC
Is nothing to do with electoral act.
It is a statutory civic obligation and failure to do so is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE.
That means any person who does not serve is liable to prosecution

You are indeed a blockhead. Electoral act is superior to NYSC act. INEC does not recognize NYSC.
SSCE is the educational minimum requirement required to seek election in Nigeria. Okonjo Iweala happens to be over qualified.
Pls don’t mention me again

docadams:
I thought you would be wiser than the maddening crowd...only need to present a SC as evidence of education. Are her documents from her stint as a minister no longer in the national archive? Or you think they won't be brought out.

The Constitution is very clear, being educated up to secondary school level is enough, others are extraneous

13. Offences and penalties, etc.

(1) Any person—

(a) who fails to report for service in the service corps in the manner directed by the Directorate or as the case may be, prescribed pursuant to the provisions of this Act; or

(b) who refuses to make himself available for service in the service corps continuously for the period specified in subsection (2) of this section, is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine of N2,000 or to imprisonment for a term of twelve months or to both such fine and imprisonment

0monnak0da:
Go and learn English this is not the place for that.
This is for educated people with no comprehension problems

I dont have an English comprehension problem. I was simply asking you the simple question that would be asked in court to rubbish the so callled nysc act before the case would be thrown out.

obailala:
I dont have an English comprehension problem. I was simply asking you the simple question that woupd be asked in court before the case would be thrown out.

Question has nothing to do with me or anything I said so if the problem is not comprehension it is mental.
We are talking about Ngozi Okonjo Iweala

obailala:
I dont have an English comprehension problem. I was simply asking you the simple question that would be asked in court to rubbish the so callled nysc act before the case would be thrown out.

13. Offences and penalties, etc.

(1) Any person—

(a) who fails to report for service in the service corps in the manner directed by the Directorate or as the case may be, prescribed pursuant to the provisions of this Act; or

(b) who refuses to make himself available for service in the service corps continuously for the period specified in subsection (2) of this section, is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine of N2,000 or to imprisonment for a term of twelve months or to both such fine and imprisonment

globemoney:
You are indeed a blockhead. Electoral act is superior to NYSC act. INEC does not recognize NYSC.
SSCE is the educational minimum requirement required to seek election in Nigeria. Okonjo Iweala happens to be over qualified.
Pls don’t mention me again

Your mother is a blockhead. She will bleed to death
NYSC is a constitutional enactment so how electoral act is superior is comprehensible only to blackheads like your mother

obailala:
Being a graduate does not automatically make one a criminal simply because they don't have NYSC. I believe that is only necessary if you are vying for a position that requires your degree certificate (e.g. head of parastatals, public enterprises, civil service positions). If I dump my degree certificates and tender only my SSCE result as my highest qualification, I have no case to answer to anyone. This would be a very simple issue for the court to clarify if any so called political opponent decides to raise dust; this is very simple logic and the case would be thrown out sane day.

Kemi's case was different, she had a problem because she tendered a degree certificate and then submitted a fake NYSC document. She was simply bullied out of power. If she decided to fight it, she could have found a way out; just that the fake certificate made things a bit messy for her.

Your submission is incorrect if you put it side by side with the provisions of the NYSC Act. Reference a snippet of the Act posted below please.

0monnak0da:
13. Offences and penalties, etc.

(1) Any person—

(a) who fails to report for service in the service corps in the manner directed by the Directorate or as the case may be, prescribed pursuant to the provisions of this Act; or

(b) who refuses to make himself available for service in the service corps continuously for the period specified in subsection (2) of this section, is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine of N2,000 or to imprisonment for a term of twelve months or to both such fine and imprisonment

13. Offences and penalties, etc.

(1) Any person—

(a) who fails to report for service in the service corps in the manner directed by the Directorate or as the case may be, prescribed pursuant to the provisions of this Act; or

(b) who refuses to make himself available for service in the service corps continuously for the period specified in subsection (2) of this section, is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine of N2,000 or to imprisonment for a term of twelve months or to both such fine and imprisonment

0monnak0da:
[s]Your mother is a blockhead. She will bleed to death
NYSC is a constitutional enactment so how electoral act is superior is comprehensible only to blackheads like your mother[/s]

Afonja will never have sense. Its the ewedu!

0monnak0da:
Question has nothing to do with me or anything I said so if the problem is not comprehension it is mental.
We are talking about Ngozi Okonjo Iweala

Oh you still do not get the point?... But you were the one who few seconds ago, placed yourself on a high mental pedestal. How come the simple point being fed to you is too difficult for you to mentally grasp?

In simple terms, the nysc act is rubbish. You cannot criminalise a person for not serving a country. The best it can do is prevent them from securing job appointments which require degree qualifications because a degree qualification in Nigeria MUST be accompanied by an NYSC cert. However, if the person settles for a position not requiring a degree qualification, NYSC cert will be as useless as the 'P' in psychology.

globemoney:
Afonja will never have sense. Its the ewedu!

She will die painfully

0monnak0da:
Go and learn English this is not the place for that.
This is for educated people with no comprehension problems
quote author=nelronaldo post=71906967]
Noted. My point is they haven't committed any crime whatsoever
13. Offences and penalties, etc.

(1) Any person—

(a) who fails to report for service in the service corps in the manner directed by the Directorate or as the case may be, prescribed pursuant to the provisions of this Act; or

(b) who refuses to make himself available for service in the service corps continuously for the period specified in subsection (2) of this section, is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine of N2,000 or to imprisonment for a term of twelve months or to both such fine and imprisonment

Uncle, NYSC Act cannot override the provisions of the Constitution and NYSC Act has nothing to do with electoral matters, that's the business of the Constitution and E.A.

NOTE: Elective positions aren't "job employment" within the context of what that NYSC Act prescribes, not even ministerial and other political appointments.

obailala:
Oh you still do not get the point?... But you were the one who few seconds ago, placed yourself on a high mental pedestal. How come the simple point being fed to you is too difficult for you to mentally grasp?

In simple terms, the nysc act is rubbish. You cannot criminalise a person for not serving a country. The best it can do is prevent them from securing job appointments which require degree qualifications because a degree qualification in Nigeria MUST be accompanied by an NYSC cert. However, if the person settles for a position not requiring a degree qualification, NYSC cert will be as useless as the 'P' in psychology.

You are entitled to be foolish, the constitution guarantees that

globemoney:
You are indeed a blockhead. Electoral act is superior to NYSC act. INEC does not recognize NYSC.
SSCE is the educational minimum requirement required to seek election in Nigeria. Okonjo Iweala happens to be over qualified.
Pls don’t mention me again

The Electoral Act is not superior to the NYSC Act.

The Electoral Act as a law of the land does not invalidate other existing laws. Try and be informed.

If you commit a crime punishable by other laws, the existence of the Electoral Act does not preclude you from criminal prosecution.