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you said he had carry over in 400 level, how come he was able to graduate without extra year?

Or did he study a five years course?

anyway things like that happens, just take chill and enjoy the certificate you have already acquired everyone must not get to the apex point of education

*Top 10 Fastest Growing Economies in Africa in 2018 (World Bank, IMF....)*

[1] Ghana >>>>>>8.3%
[2] Ethiopia >>>>>8.2%
[3] Cote d'Ivoire>>7.2%
[4] Djibouti >>>>> 7.0%
[5] Senegal >>>>>6.9%
[6] Tanzania >>>> 6.8%
[7] Sierra Leone>>6.3%
[8] Burkina Faso>6.0%
[8] Benin Rep>>>>6.0%
[9] Rwanda>>>>>>5.9%
[10] Niger Rep>>>5.2%
------------------
[41] NIGERIA>>>>1.9%,

Note Nigeria was Number [1] in 2012, 2013, and 2014.

In 2015 Nigeria was the 3rd Fastest growing Economy in the World but now, the 88th.

SOURCES| World Bank, Brookings Institution, IMF, Chidi Cali and the African Development Bank.

LordIsaac:
Let him apply for direct entrƴ 200 level and add 3yrs. Then 1yr+ masters and all his sorrows will have a midas touch. Oɓasanjo ɗid it and at 70+, he had a Phd. Let him take this counsel and thank me later. Everything will not even take 10years. It is called a complete makeover....when all else fails, the only solution is to start all over again...it is ɓetter than worry, loss of opportunities and frustration.

Yes, The only way up from rock bottom is up

LordIsaac:
Wow....there is what we call pulling ɗown the structure and rebuilding....your mind is too shallow to understand the logic, I understand. If ƴou don't know how to reason, stop persecuting those who can.

shut up. Low IQ subhuman.

hush15:
my 2 cents is this, dont forge anything cos it may come back to hunt you even more. You might need to re do your bs in whatever and it means you might let go some years but it better as long its in pursuit of your happiness. Its a big sacrifice but its a more worthy option. I know someone who has been chasing degree since 1997 and hasnt lost any hope in finishing strong.

Msc or PhD degree?

Nigerians themselves are corrupt

asuustrike1:
Those visitating this site are they saint or is their country sinless?

... U don vex?, no vex oh. Biko.

rtdCivilservant:
let him go and change his undergraduate grade from 2.2 to 2.1. sounds funny and impossible? but this is Nigeria where everything that is thinkable is possible. I know a whole lot of people that have done this. when I mean change I mean genuinely pimping some of his grades that will shoot him to 2.1 without any trace. But come o, why u come use ur friend de lie while na u this kasala de befall.

And wen karma decides to #adeosunize him 2mao, he'll start another round of "cry me a river"

Even though I just finished writing SSCE, and has never attended a university lecture, I am of the opinion that I still deserve to have my point heard.
I'd say that it really depends on his field, in the field of tech, these days employers no longer look at degrees, they look for people with hands on experience, people whose brains have well adapted to their fields making it very easy for them to learn and get around any task thrown at them.
But then your "friend" is probably in a theoretical and research based field where postgraduate degrees are worshipped , then he might as well have to start all over( I strongly advise against).
But then why not look towards other countries if he's finding it impossible in the US... . You know Ukraine, Russia ,Cyprus, ??
Anyway I'd advice him to scrap that plan altogether, I don't think that degree is as important as he's making it.
He should use that time and learn something worthwhile, something that will increase his worth in today's world, like a new language or computer programming, software designing, Not looking to go burden himself with years of stressful research and cumbersome studies plus the financial burden for something that might not eventually worth it.

Eni toh mor way lo mowe... (na person wey know way know book)

Rgade:
Even though I just finished writing SSCE, and has never attended a university lecture, I am of the opinion that I still deserve to have my point heard.
I'd say that it really depends on his field, in the field of tech, these days employers no longer look at degrees, they look for people with hands on experience, people whose brains have well adapted to their fields making it very easy for them to learn and get around any task thrown at them.
But then your "friend" is probably in a theoretical and research based field where postgraduate degrees are worshipped , then he might as well have to start all over( I strongly advise against).
But then why not look towards other countries if he's finding it impossible in the US... . You know Ukraine, Russia ,Cyprus, ??
Anyway I'd advice him to scrap that plan altogether, I don't think that degree is as important as he's making it.
He should use that time and learn something worthwhile, something that will increase his worth in today's world, like a new language or computer programming, software designing, Not looking to go burden himself with years of stressful research and cumbersome studies plus the financial burden for something that might not eventually worth it.

if you think phd is not worth it, I can understand because you are yet to write jamb.

Federal University Oye-Ekiti has started doing Top-up. He can apply for it and it'll take just two years. When he's done, whatever he graduates with will be his new grade. It's an undergraduate program.

hush15:
my 2 cents is this, dont forge anything cos it may come back to hunt you even more. You might need to re do your bs in whatever and it means you might let go some years but it better as long its in pursuit of your happiness. Its a big sacrifice but its a more worthy option. I know someone who has been chasing degree since 1997 and hasnt lost any hope in finishing strong.

Pls hep me hansk that someone if he is planning to be the methuselah of that department.

emperorblog:
*Top 10 Fastest Growing Economies in Africa in 2018 (World Bank, IMF....)*

[1] Ghana >>>>>>8.3%
[2] Ethiopia >>>>>8.2%
[3] Cote d'Ivoire>>7.2%
[4] Djibouti >>>>> 7.0%
[5] Senegal >>>>>6.9%
[6] Tanzania >>>> 6.8%
[7] Sierra Leone>>6.3%
[8] Burkina Faso>6.0%
[8] Benin Rep>>>>6.0%
[9] Rwanda>>>>>>5.9%
[10] Niger Rep>>>5.2%
------------------
[41] NIGERIA>>>>1.9%,

Note Nigeria was Number [1] in 2012, 2013, and 2014.

In 2015 Nigeria was the 3rd Fastest growing Economy in the World but now, the 88th.

SOURCES| World Bank, Brookings Institution, IMF, Chidi Cali and the African Development Bank.

Don't worry Bro. 2019, we'll kick him out.

pimper24:
A masters degree holder friend of mine has regretted not joining the band .wagon way back in his undergrad days to buy marks in some of his courses, an act popularly known as sorting. According to him, a GPA of 2.80 still hunts him years after he graduated even when he managed to get a masters degree abroad. A PhD has actuality become an up hill task with most of the schools turning town his applications after paying huge application fees.

The crop of American schools subject him to GRE and other funny tests (of course not TOEFL/ IELTS, he makes good grades) that at times make him sit exams with people too young to be his children, then a mail regretting not offering him admissions. He needs a doctorate degree due to a career part he is craving for. For the schools in Nigeria, his course has got few professionals around and the fear of spending years for a three year program scares him stiff.

He has excellent research proposals and even wrote a proposal for someone I know that is presently in one of the top schools in the US. He has a midas touch and a professional in his area. The surprising this is that he made a distinction in his masters degree, but all the schools where he applied for phdin America and Canada and even Australia and NZ keep complaining of his undergrad. Crop of Canadian prospective supervisors he will manage to get in touch with will advise him out rightly not to continue applying and for US, a regret letter readily awaits him after a rigorous applications and fees. They actually mention the undergrad.

Also according to him, the 2.2 level grade is due mainly to some unfortunate incidents that befell him in school. A lecturer accused him of not buying his handout and swore to make him fail, which threat the lecturer effectively carried out. That was his first carryover. GST causes, two results got missing and no help in view, 2nd and 3rd carryover. Then the big bang, 400 level, he almost dropped out due to hard times and missed a whole semester, he managed to write the exam and bagged an f, 3rd carryover, and finally got sick and missed exam at 400 level 5th carryover. I personally know this guy as a very brilliant fellow ( at least for him to finish with a 2.2 despite these unfortunate incidents and without any extra year).

He is really downcast and heart broken. I have advised him to check schools in Nigeria, China, Malaysia (where he got his masters) etc if he must go abroad again for his PhD but he insisted on going to Europe or America.

I wouldn't know if anyone has a better advise.

@ the bolded he should stop chasing the wind. Based on my personal experience, I obtained B.Agric (Soil and Env. sci) from University of Ado Ekiti now EKSU with a very weak 2:2. I had no choice than to go back to same school for MSc in Soil Survey and Classification and I came out with distinction. All efforts to apply for PhD in Digital Soil Mapping abroad failed as a result of my poor B.Agric grade. I wasted 3 years chasing the wind and later went back to EKSU for PhD in Soil Survey and Classification which I completed in a record time of 2years eight months. I have published 7 papers in high impact journals from my PhD thesis and about to go for post-doc abroad soon.

pimper24:
A masters degree holder friend of mine has regretted not joining the band .wagon way back in his undergrad days to buy marks in some of his courses, an act popularly known as sorting. According to him, a GPA of 2.80 still hunts him years after he graduated even when he managed to get a masters degree abroad. A PhD has actuality become an up hill task with most of the schools turning town his applications after paying huge application fees.

The crop of American schools subject him to GRE and other funny tests (of course not TOEFL/ IELTS, he makes good grades) that at times make him sit exams with people too young to be his children, then a mail regretting not offering him admissions. He needs a doctorate degree due to a career part he is craving for. For the schools in Nigeria, his course has got few professionals around and the fear of spending years for a three year program scares him stiff.

He has excellent research proposals and even wrote a proposal for someone I know that is presently in one of the top schools in the US. He has a midas touch and a professional in his area. The surprising this is that he made a distinction in his masters degree, but all the schools where he applied for phdin America and Canada and even Australia and NZ keep complaining of his undergrad. Crop of Canadian prospective supervisors he will manage to get in touch with will advise him out rightly not to continue applying and for US, a regret letter readily awaits him after a rigorous applications and fees. They actually mention the undergrad.

Also according to him, the 2.2 level grade is due mainly to some unfortunate incidents that befell him in school. A lecturer accused him of not buying his handout and swore to make him fail, which threat the lecturer effectively carried out. That was his first carryover. GST causes, two results got missing and no help in view, 2nd and 3rd carryover. Then the big bang, 400 level, he almost dropped out due to hard times and missed a whole semester, he managed to write the exam and bagged an f, 3rd carryover, and finally got sick and missed exam at 400 level 5th carryover. I personally know this guy as a very brilliant fellow ( at least for him to finish with a 2.2 despite these unfortunate incidents and without any extra year).

He is really downcast and heart broken. I have advised him to check schools in Nigeria, China, Malaysia (where he got his masters) etc if he must go abroad again for his PhD but he insisted on going to Europe or America.

I wouldn't know if anyone has a better advise.

Advice your friend to try UK universities. Am certain he will get admitted.

He still has a very wrong mindset. He should have put in more effort, he should studied his books much more, not join others to 'sort' his courses

[quote author=jesmond3945 post=71917551]if you think phd is not worth it, I can understand because you are yet to write jamb.[/iquote]
To what end
Why does he want it
Is he an academian
PhD is gone after for a reason
If he wants to gain the status of professor.....
Then he should go back and begin again
There is no 2ways about it

rtdCivilservant:
let him go and change his undergraduate grade from 2.2 to 2.1. sounds funny and impossible? but this is Nigeria where everything that is thinkable is possible. I know a whole lot of people that have done this. when I mean change I mean genuinely pimping some of his grades that will shoot him to 2.1 without any trace. But come o, why u come use ur friend de lie while na u this kasala de befall.

Lol ��

Your friend is just a lazy ass!
The fact that he keeps referring to events of the past that he can't change says a lot about him.

He should sit down and study hard for the GRE exam. No school will reject him with a very good GRE score and clear SOP (Statement of Purpose).

A young friend just got into MIT with his 2:2 from Naija.

hakeem4:
its not a must you have a Phd, he should probably go to the field and practice


i just remembered one of my friend, his uncle asked him for his CGPA after promised to look for job for him. Then he told his uncle he was on a 4.12, immediately his uncle said you must be a very brilliant student, not know his CGPA was 4.12/7

That must be UI?? Upper starts from 4.60, I want to believe.

okay...

[quote author=Chikebranny123 post=71918647][/quote]i repeat if you think phd is only to become a professor then you need to return your certificate. When you start, finish and get a Phd then you will know the worth.

Nobody cares how you succeed, all the want to hear is your success even if you cut corners to get it. If you know, you know.

vanndubi:
He should be regretting not studying hard enough as he is doing now.

Modified:


Why would he paint it as if people that graduated with 1st class and 2.1 sorted? He failed himself by not working hard then.

He learn to live with his 2.2 restrictions and advise younger ones to work hard and avoid his fate.

He didn't paint those with 1st class and 2nd class upper bad. He was speaking for himself. Didn't you read were he had missing scores which led to reduction in CGPA?
Didn't you read were he had other challenges that made him not to meet up?. He graduated with a distinction in m.sc whereas he had 2.2, isn't it ironic?. Those that graduated with 2.2 had one challenge or the other,it doesn't make them dull. Many lecturers in Nigeria universities graduated with 2.2 yet they are sound and better than the so called first class and 2.1.

maiyee:
I just discovered that my 200level second semester result was miscalculated, like about 20points was not added. Please is there anything that can be done about it? I'm presently in my final year second semester.

Approach your course adviser to sort it out. Make sure you have evidence showing your scores to back up claims

Processor01:
Your friend is just a lazy ass!
The fact that he keeps referring to events of the past that he can't change says a lot about him.

He should sit down and study hard for the GRE exam. No school will reject him with a very good GRE score and clear SOP (Statement of Purpose).

A young friend just got into MIT with his 2:2 from Naija.

Didn't you read were they rejected him because of his b.sc result?

engrfcuksmtin:
@ the bolded he should stop chasing the wind. Based on my personal experience, I obtained B.Agric (Soil and Env. sci) from University of Ado Ekiti now EKSU with a very weak 2:2. I had no choice than to go back to same school for MSc in Soil Survey and Classification and I came out with distinction. All efforts to apply for PhD in Digital Soil Mapping abroad failed as a result of my poor B.Agric grade. I wasted 3 years chasing the wind and later went back to EKSU for PhD in Soil Survey and Classification which I completed in a record time of 2years eight months. I have published 7 papers in high impact journals from my PhD thesis and about to go for post-doc abroad soon.

Op is just adamant. He insist on studying abroad especially Europe or America.

Rosay15:
... U don vex?, no vex oh. Biko.

Such a stupid thread.. I can see people prioritizing certificate over individual proficiency

Let him try German schools.... He might just be lucky there. There's a thread on Nairaland here, he should search German student visa thread

pimper24:
A masters degree holder friend of mine has regretted not joining the band .wagon way back in his undergrad days to buy marks in some of his courses, an act popularly known as sorting. According to him, a GPA of 2.80 still hunts him years after he graduated even when he managed to get a masters degree abroad. A PhD has actuality become an up hill task with most of the schools turning town his applications after paying huge application fees.

The crop of American schools subject him to GRE and other funny tests (of course not TOEFL/ IELTS, he makes good grades) that at times make him sit exams with people too young to be his children, then a mail regretting not offering him admissions. He needs a doctorate degree due to a career part he is craving for. For the schools in Nigeria, his course has got few professionals around and the fear of spending years for a three year program scares him stiff.

He has excellent research proposals and even wrote a proposal for someone I know that is presently in one of the top schools in the US. He has a midas touch and a professional in his area. The surprising this is that he made a distinction in his masters degree, but all the schools where he applied for phdin America and Canada and even Australia and NZ keep complaining of his undergrad. Crop of Canadian prospective supervisors he will manage to get in touch with will advise him out rightly not to continue applying and for US, a regret letter readily awaits him after a rigorous applications and fees. They actually mention the undergrad.

Also according to him, the 2.2 level grade is due mainly to some unfortunate incidents that befell him in school. A lecturer accused him of not buying his handout and swore to make him fail, which threat the lecturer effectively carried out. That was his first carryover. GST causes, two results got missing and no help in view, 2nd and 3rd carryover. Then the big bang, 400 level, he almost dropped out due to hard times and missed a whole semester, he managed to write the exam and bagged an f, 3rd carryover, and finally got sick and missed exam at 400 level 5th carryover. I personally know this guy as a very brilliant fellow ( at least for him to finish with a 2.2 despite these unfortunate incidents and without any extra year).

He is really downcast and heart broken. I have advised him to check schools in Nigeria, China, Malaysia (where he got his masters) etc if he must go abroad again for his PhD but he insisted on going to Europe or America.

I wouldn't know if anyone has a better advise.