Ugosample:


what an irony

those who have cannot prove a clean audit trail of how they made the money (most of them) while much more don't even have at all

What does that say about the state of the country

I plan on getting another investment visa soon, but I need to raise the complete capital first

$500k is a talk order for me atm so I should just respect myself and be reasonable

Actually the amount is one million dollars , $500,000 is for target areas with high unemployment.

https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/investors

Mancala:


I don't understand why Nigerians come here and try to blow? There is absolutely no need to amass wealth here. You can live a very decent life on less than $100k per annum. Your kids will go to good schools and you can ensure they have good morals and work ethics. If you raise them right, they will go on to make their own living. No need to amass wealth for anybody.

There is no wealth to amass here. The average American family household income is about $55,000 per annum. Obviously they are people who make less and people who make more. Cost of living varies and it wil determine how much money is required per annum.

Babyvet:


Actually the amount is one million dollars , $500,000 is for target areas with high unemployment.

https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/investors

yeepa

$1m is almost 600m XOF



no thank you

Ugosample:


yeepa

$1m is almost 600m XOF



no thank you

Lol so forget America , where are you based ? There are so many other countries in this world.

Mancala:


If you have the ability to raise $500k in Nigeria, why the heck would you plough it into a U.S. investment visa just for immigration benefits? Your return on invetsment will probably be be dismal with all the conditions attached to that route! If I was you, I will take that money and invest it in caribbean country or a country like Belize and make a killing. A certain Nigerian whom I will not name is the King of Sugar in Belize He makes a Kings ransome with very little investment.

Do you mean the state will cut down on investors ROI or what? Please say more about the bolded

Mancala:


If you have the ability to raise $500k in Nigeria, why the heck would you plough it into a U.S. investment visa just for immigration benefits? Your return on invetsment will probably be be dismal with all the conditions attached to that route! If I was you, I will take that money and invest it in Caribbean country or a country like Belize and make a killing. A certain Nigerian whom I will not name is the King of Sugar in Belize He makes a Kings ransome with very little investment.

Talking about Caribbean country;
Is US Virgin Islands a country on it own or one of the states in USA ?
Is it easier to get USVI visa than to get USA visa or both are the same?

theamerican:
Here to share another experience. So, after doing strong head for months, I finally got an iPhone X from a guy who badly needed the money. Good deal for $400.

I was home fumbling with the phone o. Trying to fit it into a case. Before I hear anything, the buttons were pressed together, phone entered power mode/call sos, kia kia, it was dialing 911. I panicked and ended the call after one ring.

3 seconds later, I got a call lol. I was not gonna answer but my friend told me if I didn’t, they would assume I was in trouble, couldn’t speak, trace my location, and send cops to come and save me from whatever the issue is.

I hurriedly answered the call lol. “Hello, this is the Dallas police department, we just got a call from this number”. I told them it was a mistake, that I just got a new phone and the phone dialed 911, etc. They said ok, laughed, said goodbye and hung up.

Taxpayers’ money works. If I was genuinely in trouble, they would have arrived on time to save my big black ass. �����

Picture or idonbelieveit

Its nairaland old slang o

Mancala:


I don't understand why Nigerians come here and try to blow? There is absolutely no need to amass wealth here. You can live a very decent life on less than $100k per annum. Your kids will go to good schools and you can ensure they have good morals and work ethics. If you raise them right, they will go on to make their own living. No need to amass wealth for anybody.

Its the ingrained Nigerian orientation. They carry and exhibit their local mentality everywhere they go.

femora007:
Do you mean the state will cut down on investors ROI or what? Please say more about the bolded

The state will not mess with you directly. It's indirectly through the employment stipulations in a high unemployment location, most likely a rural area in the south . Imagine having to deal with unmotivated, disgruntled and largely indolent workers. You have to hire a certain #, not including relatives to qualify. At the $500k level, you may find yourself struggling to be successful. My comment about low ROI was relative to investing elsewhere.

femora007:
Talking about Caribbean country;
Is US Virgin Islands a country on it own or one of the states in USA ?
Is it easier to get USVI visa than to get USA visa or both are the same?

The U.S. Virgin Islands is a U.S. territory like Puerto Rico and Guam. You do not need a separate visa, it's the same U.S. visa to visit. Having said that, note that it is one of the more expensive islands to visit. 97% of goods are imported into the island so everyday life is quite expensive.

Babyvet:


There is no wealth to amass here. The average American family household income is about $55,000 per annum. Obviously they are people who make less and people who make more. Cost of living varies and it wil determine how much money is required per annum.

Even on $55k, you will live very well. Years ago when I lived in Florida, I was always astonished to see folks who earned less than half of my income driving Lexuses, Mercedes, Jaguars and all types of fancy cars. Being of Nija heritage, I was of the mindset that you should spend $1 only when you have $10 saved under your "mattress". Old school African disposition ...live below your means, neither be a debtor or a lender and save save save to transfer inheritance to the next generation because we have to give them a leg up to survive.... nobody knows tomorrow. America is the opposite. It's a debt and consumer driven economy. Tomorrow is guaranteed to some extent by the government safety net so live life to the fullest and let tomorrow take care of itself!

Mancala:


Even on $55k, you will live very well. Years ago when I lived in Florida, I was always astonished to see folks who earned less than half of my income driving Lexuses, Mercedes, Jaguars and all types of fancy cars. Being of Nija heritage, I was of the mindset that you should spend $1 only when you have $10 saved under your "mattress". Old school African disposition ...live below your means, neither be a debtor or a lender and save save save to transfer inheritance to the next generation because we have to give them a leg up to survive.... nobody knows tomorrow. America is the opposite. It's a debt and consumer driven economy. Tomorrow is guaranteed to some extent by the government safety net so live life to the fullest and let tomorrow take care of itself!

I highly disagree , as someone who works closely with low income population, there is not as much safety net in this country. People who move to the western society, need to very careful with social benefits , it’s a system that can trap someone to stay in low socioeconomic settings. If someone wants to live above their means , that’s their business. With cars these days, it kind of easy to get one especially a luxury one .That’s why you will see many people driving nice cars but still living in the hood or cheap houses. While the other end, housing is not that easy to get especially after the house market crash. How many people can really afford their house in cash in this country especially in places like New York or California ?

Babyvet:


I highly disagree , as someone who works closely with low income population, there is not as much safety net in this country. People who move to the western society, need to very careful with social benefits , it’s a system that can trap someone to stay in low socioeconomic settings. If someone wants to live above their means , that’s their business. With cars these days, it kind of easy to get one especially a luxury one .That’s why you will see many people driving nice cars but still living in the hood or cheap houses. While the other end, housing is not that easy to get especially after the house market crash. How many people can really afford their house in cash in this country especially in places like New York or California ?

I agree that social benefits can be a trap, especially for those with very little ambition. However, if a citizen is down on their luck, they can seek help in a homeless shelter, food shelfs abound etc. unemployed? Benefits exist. Not to mention the welfare baby mama gig. Subsidized housing exists too. These are meant to be a springboard from which an individual launches to success not a permanent position to reside. From the eyes of a person who has done better by getting a job building a career, these look like nothing. I would never want to be a recipient of any of these "freebies". Immigrants are not immediately eligible for government benefits as their sponsor is financially responsible so they should not rely on this.

Cash purchase of housing is almost like an alien concept here. it's not financially a good idea. I can borrow at 3-5% APR and use the interest as a tax shield while my cash earns 6-10% return on the stock market. Capital gains are taxed at 15% while regular income can be as high as 35%. Also, after the housing crash, homes are not always an appreciating asset. Mortgages are readily available, even in California and New York. Like I said, it's a debt driven economy.

Having said all this, not having the cash to buy a house outright is absolutely the norm in an honest society. How can a civil servant in Nigerian afford to buy a 30 million Naira house? 300 million in plantain or is it banana island? These rogues are spending the commonwealth of the people

Mancala:


I agree that social benefits can be a trap, especially for those with very little ambition. However, if a citizen is down on their luck, they can seek help in a homeless shelter, food shelfs abound etc. unemployed? Benefits exist. Subsidized housing exists too. These are meant to be a springboard from which an individual launches to success not a permanent position to reside. Immigrants are not immediately eligible for government benefits as their sponsor is financially responsible so they should not rely on this.

Cash purchase of housing is almost like an alien concept here. it's not financially a good idea. I can borrow at 3-5% APR and use the interest as a tax shield while my cash earns 6-10% return on the stock market. Also, after the housing crash, homes are not always an appreciating asset. Mortgages are readily available, even in California and New York. Like I said, it's a debt driven economy.

Having said all this, not having the cash to buy a house outright is absolutely the norm in an honest society. How can a civil servant in Nigerian afford to buy a 30 million Naira house? 300 million in plantain or is it banana island? These rogues are spending the commonwealth of the people

Those things you mentioned have limitations on them. Availability for those things are limited. The government preaches that these social benefits are meant to be temporary and to help people in the time of need but they do the opposite . For a example, if a single mother goes back to school and works part time , they will cut off her benefits stating that she makes too much, they rather her stay at home and leech off the system.

Babyvet:


Those things you mentioned have limitations on them. Availability for those things are limited. The government preaches that these social benefits are meant to be temporary and to help people in the time of need but they do the opposite . For a example, if a single mother goes back to school and works part time , they will cut off her benefits stating that she makes too much, they rather her stay at home and leech off the system.

Yes, but many people have escaped that system by working hard to escape the viscous cycle. That single mother needs to keep her eyes on the prize, double down, finish school and even go for a higher qualification. I know some that say, screw benefits and work 2 or 3 jobs knowing it's only for a season. The future that awaits her if she does this will be like daylight compared to the nighttime she has gone through. Most importantly, she will be setting a good example for her child who is more likely to also be college educated if she is. It's not a perfect system but at least it exists. One thing I know from living here a good many years is "time and place". Benefits are easier to get in some States than others, and overtime, have become easier or more difficult to obtain in others. I will not mention the benefits "easy" states. It's an open secret.

Mancala:


The U.S. Virgin Islands is a U.S. territory like Puerto Rico and Guam. You do not need a separate visa, it's the same U.S. visa to visit. Having said that, note that it is one of the more expensive islands to visit. 97% of goods are imported into the island so everyday life is quite expensive.

Thanks. But is it possible to apply for any of those islands/territories' visa instead of getting usa visa?

femora007:
Thanks. But is it possible to apply for any of those islands/territories' visa instead of getting usa visa?

Not possible. U.S. territories are not independent countries and do not issue separate visas. Their citizens are citizens of the US. You will need a US visa to go there.

Mobilia:


Thank you so much...
I was totally lost...but yes Mexicans are some extremely hard-working and resilient folks from what I have seen in my lifetime.
They tend to do the "jobs" that many people in the U.S. label as "degrading" ...(unfortunately).
Work has to be done...people are needed in every aspect of industry..
Don't know if they are more hardworking and resilient than Nigerians though?
Hopefully he'll come and clarify when able.
So your thread lives on!

Mexicans are more hardworking than Nigerians o. If you are doing the same tedious job together, na you go run last last. E be like say those guys dey smoke Igbo with some mix of other narcotics before the go work. I’m not surprised. Na from their country the drugs dey pour into America.

Mancala:


Yes, but many people have escaped that system by working hard to escape the viscous cycle. That single mother needs to keep her eyes on the prize, double down, finish school and even go for a higher qualification. I know some that say, screw benefits and work 2 or 3 jobs knowing it's only for a season. The future that awaits her if she does this will be like daylight compared to the nighttime she has gone through. Most importantly, she will be setting a good example for her child who is more likely to also be college educated if she is. It's not a perfect system but at least it exists. One thing I know from living here a good many years is "time and place". Benefits are easier to get in some States than others, and overtime, have become easier or more difficult to obtain in others. I will not mention the benefits "easy" states. It's an open secret.

Either way, back to your original question, America is not the place for Nigerians to come to right now unless you have family or job sponsorship( which is very hard these days, unless one is in stem courses or very hard to fill positions).

Mancala:


Not possible. U.S. territories are not independent countries and do not issue separate visas. Their citizens are citizens of the US. You will need a US visa to go there.

thanks

Berliner1:
I always tell people, come here legally and u will regret staying in Nigeria.

I will rather say God bless Germany than mentioning Nigeria.

Going on europe tour as if you are going to Ikeja.

Access to free education, plenty student job( averagely €1500=650k per month after tax), many easy way to become a german citizen,free semester ticket( you can travel a whole state 247 without paying kobo.

From nursery school to PhD education in Germany is 100% free for everyone.


Plenty free loan if u want oo....atleast u can get a credit card upto 6k euro=2.5m naira without collateral even as a student, if you are working full time here, plenty loan u can access at a very very low rate from mortgage to car of any brand.





Please where can one get this in Nigeria?

Who ever tell you to stay back in Nigeria is your village member holding u back.

Theres no comparism between heaven and hell fire.

God bless Germany.

Going on world tour in December, any europe based dude interest in co ride can holla.

Greetings from the Capital of Europe(Berlin)

hello bros
good evening. pls if i come to germant with a shengen visa how can i get a job. because i will need work permit. how xan someome get a job in europe pls.

Babyvet:


Either way, back to your original question, America is not the place for Nigerians to come to right now unless you have family or job sponsorship( which is very hard these days, unless one is in stem courses or very hard to fill positions).

Yes, sad but true. This is not a good time to come here. However, this too shall pass! It is difficult right now but it shall become easier again, just like it is guaranteed to be difficult again in the future. That's what happens when we only have 2 political extremes dominating the landscape.

falopey:
Mexicans are more hardworking than Nigerians o. If you are doing the same tedious job together, na you go run last last. E be like say those guys dey smoke Igbo with some mix of other narcotics before the go work. I’m not surprised. Na from their country the drugs dey pour into America.

Permit me to volunteer from my personal experience. Both are hard working, the big difference is that Nigerians are more ambitious. If a Nigerian and a Mexican are both working in the same establishment doing a minimum wage job, in 5 years you will probably still meet the Mexican doing the same job. The Nigerian would have become manager or upgraded through schooling and moved on to something better. We are hardworking and endure mainly because we want to get ahead and move on to bigger things

Mancala:


Yes, sad but true. This is not a good time to come here. However, this too shall pass! It is difficult right now but it shall become easier again, just like it is guaranteed to be difficult again in the future. That's what happens when we only have 2 political extremes dominating the landscape.

Which is why, I’m recommending Canada to people right now , job opportunities may be less than here , but at least immigration is better over there. Even illlegals or people with visa over here are going to Canada. Compared to here Canada is more open to immigrants. I’m still curious why Canada is so open though? I have heard mixed reviews about Canada .

kalu61:
l'm not responsible for what you understand. l said you sounded broken not broke. Broke here means someone angry at the ways thing are run here. You are correct with your research bro but you decided to hide the fact that am a freelancer too and will start my MSc next month. l graduated as 25 did my service between 26&27, have being job hunting within my locality Umuahia cos of my vision is to be in the class room. Do I need to tell you that l have turn down a banking work because it would give me time to pursue my passion. l will be 29 soon.lm from an average family, all my 2 siblings in higher institution. So, what makes you think, I'm hopeless or think Nigeria has failed me? You gave up and left. Did l tell you am giving up? We quote all the time" think what you can do for America not what America can do for you" People bought US to that level, ok. It wasn't made that way from creation. I play bet cos am expose to football and guy: my hubby. At least it recharges and buy data monthly for me. Since you believe l don't know.May I even ask, do Americans play bet? Hahaha. As for being outside Nigeria, Yes but within Africa not even west African. l was born outside of Nigerian. ln the next 10
years I hope you will be a known millionaire with all the opportunities at your disposal. At that time, kindly invest in Africa.
To put the record straight however, didn't criticize people who travelled abroad. My argument emanated from the fact that most people if given that €8700 will not think of going abroad like myself because l believe they are ideas domicile in our youths but accessing capita has been our challenge.l wish you the best bro.

I just stumbled on this and I can't help but say this,

You aren't a graduate!!! And you want to be in a classroom?? Doing what exactly?? Biko, KILL that dream.

Babyvet:


Which is why, I’m recommending Canada to people right now , job opportunities may be less than here , but at least immigration is better over there. Even illlegals or people with visa over here are going to Canada. Compared to here Canada is more open to immigrants. I’m still curious why Canada is so open though? I have heard mixed reviews about Canada .

Canada is open to immigrants because they really have no other choice. Their population was aging and with a low birth rate. In a few decades, there would have been no young work force base to support the aging population. They really needed to bring in a skilled workforce to correct that trend. I like their points based system. It satisfies their "selfish interest" but also gives immigrants a fair shot. The population is low compared to the U.S. Fun fact.. about 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the U.S. border. There is a lot of empty land in Canada.

Mancala:


Canada is open to immigrants because they really have no other choice. Their population was aging and with a low birth rate. In a few decades, there would have been no young work force base to support the aging population. They really needed to bring in a skilled workforce to correct that trend. I like their points based system. It satisfies their "selfish interest" but also gives immigrants a fair shot. The population is low compared to the U.S. Fun fact.. about 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the U.S. border. There is a lot of empty land in Canada.

I remember when trump was elected, Americans were shouting that they moving to Canada even their site crashed. But 2 years later, majority are still here. They do have a lot of land compared to the amount of people. I know about the border part, a lot of Canadians drive accross the border everyday in the us for work. That’s the number one complaint I hear about Canada , is the lack of job opportunities especially in certain fields. I believe there is a catch 22 with this there skilled workers program.

BarristerAlarig:



I just stumbled on this and I can't help but say this,

You aren't a graduate!!! And you want to be in a classroom?? Doing what exactly?? Biko, KILL that dream.

The basic need of life is satisfaction. That's what satisfy me bro

Berliner1:
I always tell people, come here legally and u will regret staying in Nigeria.

I will rather say God bless Germany than mentioning Nigeria.

Going on europe tour as if you are going to Ikeja.

Access to free education, plenty student job( averagely €1500=650k per month after tax), many easy way to become a german citizen,free semester ticket( you can travel a whole state 247 without paying kobo.

From nursery school to PhD education in Germany is 100% free for everyone.


Plenty free loan if u want oo....atleast u can get a credit card upto 6k euro=2.5m naira without collateral even as a student, if you are working full time here, plenty loan u can access at a very very low rate from mortgage to car of any brand.





Please where can one get this in Nigeria?

Who ever tell you to stay back in Nigeria is your village member holding u back.

Theres no comparism between heaven and hell fire.

God bless Germany.

Going on world tour in December, any europe based dude interest in co ride can holla.

Greetings from the Capital of Europe(Berlin)

.

Babyvet:


Either way, back to your original question, America is not the place for Nigerians to come to right now unless you have family or job sponsorship( which is very hard these days, unless one is in stem courses or very hard to fill positions).

what of for Premed study on a full ride scholarship?

kalu61:
the basic need of life is satisfaction. That's what satisfy me bro

Then improve on your writing abilities. Your write up was barely readable. I could hardly make sense of it. You did a terrible job punctuating your write up.

RoastedCorn:
what of for Premed study on a full ride scholarship?

You have to get f1 visa, did you find any scholarships ?