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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 10:31pm On Oct 15, 2018
cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 10:32pm On Oct 15, 2018
Enugu

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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 10:34pm On Oct 15, 2018
Ogui road Enugu

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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 10:34pm On Oct 15, 2018
Ogui town inside Enugu city

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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 10:36pm On Oct 15, 2018
Agbani in Nkanu West, Enugu

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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 10:37pm On Oct 15, 2018
Ogui road...

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Re: . by horsepower101: 10:38pm On Oct 15, 2018
ckenneths:
Enugu

Nna I love the cleanliness of the environment and the office building designs

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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 10:40pm On Oct 15, 2018
This house in that picture, is at least 85 years old cheesy
Roof knocked off and changed, windows and doors replaced, repainted and refurnished.

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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 10:41pm On Oct 15, 2018
Develpeast:


You might not like the what pazienza is saying basically because it does not support your IPOB agenda. I fully understand your stand point and like the ikwerres, it will be difficult to erase even with myriad of evidence coming from that angle that those people do not like us. Ikwerres are having this strong belief of recent of a unified Niger delta that will cover their lapses in the event of restructuring or eventual division of this country. Why? The whole of Niger delta can boast of oil and sea access which will help boost economic activities in their area and judging from the number of oil companies they already have, they have something to offer the other groups based oil-based industrialization.

We igbos can only boast of individualistic achievements. To them, we couldn't save them in the 60's and as it stands now we cannot save them in 2018. The south south has a bargaining chip but we do not. They cannot follow us based on a pipe-dream that has not gotten any form yet. You have to understand them. They need to continually present themselves as ikwerre so that they continuously get from the south south and stay relevant in the region. It will be difficult for you to change that because you are not offering anything better than what they are getting.

We igbos need to work on ourselves. We are being dragged and neglected by the people who should naturally align with us. If we fail to start seeing reality the way it is, then I have to say I am sorry to you all. The southeast should start developing the areas that identify with igbos now and let others follow later. We cannot stop thinking and working because ikwerre and other subgroups refuses to align with us. It does not make any sense.

So, it's now up to Igbos to work on themselves before others identity with them? What have they worked on themselves to make you chase after them, both individually and as a group?
So as Igbos start working on themselves , Ikwerres can be claiming to originate from Bini , and by the time we are through with developing ourselves(whatever that means) , they will suddenly lose the Bini heritage and finally have Igbo ancestors once again? Some of you joke for a living.

FYI, Igbo people will always do well for themselves just for the sake of it. Those of you that will do well just to get the recognition of people that aren't worth shit themselves . Enough of these esteem issues. I don't even know what's so special about that group that's making some of you run mad, people that hate you in addition!

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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 10:44pm On Oct 15, 2018
Ogidi, building materials international market. , Onitsha

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Re: . by pazienza(m): 10:58pm On Oct 15, 2018
InyinyaAgbaOku:


So, it's now up to Igbos to work on themselves before others identity with them? What have they worked on themselves to make you chase after them, both individually and as a group?
So as Igbos start working on themselves , Ikwerres can be claiming to originate from Bini , and by the time we are through with developing ourselves(whatever that means) , they will suddenly lose the Bini heritage and finally have Igbo ancestors once again? Some of you joke for a living.

FYI, Igbo people will always do well for themselves just for the sake of it. Those of you that will do well just to get the recognition of people that aren't worth shit themselves . Enough of these esteem issues. I don't even know what's so special about that group that's making some of you run mad, people that hate you in addition!

You couldn't have put it any better. Our IPOB people suffer from extreme case of low self esteem. These people would do anything to get these non Igbos to accept Biafra or Igbo tag.

I had asked them repeatedly, of what use is a brother who would not identify with you because you are supposedly weak, and gives you the condition that he can only be comfortable identifying with you, only and when you must have built yourself strong?

My answer is that such a brother is useless and not needed by anyone. A brother is only a brother because he can identify with you when you are weak. Because, let's face it, once you are strong, rich and influential, the whole world will identify with you, in which case you don't need such useless brother.

Substitute You with Ndiigbo (SE) and the brother with Igbo denying Igboids in SS.
And you see why I don't regard them at all.

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Re: . by superlightning: 11:03pm On Oct 15, 2018
pazienza:


You couldn't have put it any better. Our IPOB people suffer from extreme case of low self esteem. These people would do anything to get these non Igbos to accept Biafra or Igbo tag.

I had asked them repeatedly, of what use is a brother who would not identify with you because you are supposedly weak, and gives you the condition that he can only be comfortable identifying with you, only and when you must have built yourself strong?

My answer is that such a brother is useless and not needed by anyone. A brother is only a brother because he can identify with you when you are weak. Because, let's face it, once you are strong, rich and influential, the whole world will identify with you, in which case you don't need such useless brother.

Substitute You with Ndiigbo (SE) and the brother with Igboids in SS.
And you see why I don't regard them at all.

I don't blame you.

because IPOB says port Harcourt is igboland now means they have low self esteem? look who's talking.
what has the dude's post got to do with IPOB? did he mention IPOB? armchair critic

if you don't know who to attack tonight, pls attack your village people and stop parroting IPOB here and there. if I face you pazienza, your village men will weep for you.
Re: . by pazienza(m): 11:10pm On Oct 15, 2018
superlightning:


I don't blame you.

because IPOB says port Harcourt is igboland now means they have low self esteem? look who's talking.

if you don't know who to attack tonight, pls attack your village people and stop parroting IPOB here and there. if I face you pazienza, your village men will weep for you.

How do you explain the fact that Ikwerre people you lots claim, has repeatedly through their apex socio-cultural organization, Ogbakor Ikwerre, denied having any link with you?
When some one rejects you, and yet, you keep clinging unto the person, including threatening and cursing your brothers who know you deserve better, and keep telling you to leave this person alone, what would you call such behavior, does it look normal to you?

"Ikwerre is not Igbo" - Ogbakor Ikwerre
'Ikwerre migrated from Bini" - Celestine Omehia ( Ogbakor Ikwerre chieftain)
"Ikwerreland is not part of Biafra, we are not Ibos"- Ikwerre people.

Now see how IPOB reacts to this

Ikwerre must be Igbo
Ikwerre migrated from Nkwerre Imo state
Ikwerre and Igweocha is Biafraland.


What do we call this, if not extreme case of inferiority complex?

When someone rejects you, the right thing to do if you are psychologically normal, is to move on from the person.

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Re: . by OMANBALA1: 11:12pm On Oct 15, 2018
ckenneths:
Ogidi, building materials international market. , Onitsha

Africans are so ffuccking mentally and psychologically inferior. Why do we allow these buses to use the road side as a parking space, its dirty, unkempt and dangerous. This is very simple, clear a freaking forest, pour concrete on the ground and charge these motorists to park in that place.

The way the average black man reason is sickening, even the average black American is no different. I have a feeling the black race is still developing into a full human.

Obiano lives in America, as a matter of fact I know the gated community where he lives in the spring area of Houston yet he allowed this mess to continue in his father's land...May almighty God give me the opportunity to hold a post in Anambra, I will correct the sensibility of the average black man.

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Re: . by Nobody: 11:18pm On Oct 15, 2018
It's just a shame that for the first time as a member of nairaland, I got myself engaged in a verbal exchange with a riffraff and the result was my getting banned for two weeks. It killed me because I have never been banned for breaking any rules before until last week Saturday, and also because my absence felt like a victory to my assailant. But sometimes a ban makes one learn a lesson the hard way. So I'm now angry with myself for trying to be neutral all the time or trying to join a usual bandwagon here by always blackmailing certain true Igbo sons who we see as enigmatic with the name "Afonja". God knows that I wouldn't have learnt my lessons if a low lifer had not called me one just last week.
So here is what I have learnt!
1. I would never join in calling others with different viewpoints with the tag "Afonja. So my apologies goes to the underlisted names.
a. Abagworo - This dude is more like a brother to me geographically but my disagreement with you started way back in 2013 when you were always fond of bringing Imo state into a battle with Chino that you always lose psychologically.
b. Free globe
c. Yeske - I've joined in calling you Afonja before, but I still marvel at your convictions even when it's against the Igbo interest. I apologize personally.
d. Nonsowow - I still wonder if you're really Igbo, maybe yes or not. But whose business is it. However I won't call you Afonja again.
e. Super lightning
f. Chino - even though I despise your divisive tendencies it still baffles my imagination why you do what you do. Most especially against fellow Igbos not of Anambra state and against my state Imo with Abagworo as your eternal rival since close to a decade.
Also to the likes of Obiageli and Berem till I found out that both our villages in Orlu has a close proximity. I apologize to all those in time past, not because that I was accused by a riffraff but because none of you owe anyone an apology to your political standpoint. Still I endear all of us to still put Igbo interest first in wherever we find ourselves, because it helps to do so.

2. I won't call some people with thuggish attitude IPOB touts again. We still have nice and matured IPOBians as noblezone who I admire a lot despite our political linings.

3. I'm changed person now, and for those who think they can insult themselves or bully their selves online, I welcome your trouble. Let's ride.

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Re: . by OMANBALA1: 11:18pm On Oct 15, 2018
superlightning:


so he is even from ebonyi state? chai.... see insult. ebonyi that I try to shield from anambra bullies, now has turned against us.

educationally they are olodos and nonentities

commercially, they are riff raffs

sports nko? their input is invisible

because abakaliki town is being applauded for coming up now warrants his insults to nnaya bu abia state? He is drunk.



Every danm time you write it reeks of fear and inferiority complex. You need to shut da ffucck up and read from the side line. Now, you are getting a hard-on on top Ebonyi people's issues. You cant reply evey post.

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Re: . by globemoney01: 11:32pm On Oct 15, 2018
OMANBALA1:


Africans are so ffuccking mentally and psychologically inferior. Why do we allow these buses to use the road side as a parking space, its dirty, unkempt and dangerous. This is very simple, clear a freaking forest, pour concrete on the ground and charge these motorists to park in that place.

The way the average black man reason is sickening, even the average black American is no different. I have a feeling the black race is still developing into a full human.

Obiano lives in America, as a matter of fact I know the gated community where he lives in the spring area of Houston yet he allowed this mess to continue in his father's land...[s]May almighty God give me the opportunity to hold a post in Anambra[/s], I will correct the sensibility of the average black man.
LMAO See this clown, not so fast, unless there is a place called Anambra in Plateau State. When I have chance I will be creating a Plateau State thread for you and a Delta State for Cjrane2. It's about time you clowns started commenting on the affairs in your states. You are not part of us!
Re: . by OMANBALA1: 11:40pm On Oct 15, 2018
globemoney01:

LMAO See this clown, not so fast, unless there is a place called Anambra in Plateau State. When I have chance I will be creating a Plateau State thread for you and a Delta State for Cjrane2. It's about time you clowns started commenting on the affairs in your states. You are not part of us!

I treat your case like I treat my 2yrs old daughter. You are a little child.
Re: . by Nobody: 11:41pm On Oct 15, 2018
pazienza:


What's your old moniker?

Noblezone, Arrgh. Remarkable noble soul. Whatever happened to him, it's been long I last saw his posts.

Don't let the ban change you or your convictions. There are no saints here. I have been banned countless times here, and even this particular moniker is like the 3rd oldest moniker of mine. I have countless others that I had even forgotten their passwords. It comes with the territory. There is no getting involved in the muddy tribal battle trenches of NL, without sustaining injuries( bans).

Welcome back.
Lol! Pazienza my man, even with your Igboid moniker as at then, I could still tell it was you. Well I created this moniker from my lead character in one of my short stories. UdechiHD seems cool to me.
Well, you should know it's Chiwude talking to you. I'm beginning to like this new moniker than my previous one.

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Re: . by globemoney01: 11:44pm On Oct 15, 2018
pazienza:


How do you explain the fact that Ikwerre people you lots claim, has repeatedly through their apex socio-cultural organization, Ogbakor Ikwerre, denied having any link with you?
When some one rejects you, and yet, you keep clinging unto the person, including threatening and cursing your brothers who know you deserve better, and keep telling you to leave this person alone, what would you call such behavior, does it look normal to you?

"Ikwerre is not Igbo" - Ogbakor Ikwerre
'Ikwerre migrated from Bini" - Celestine Omehia ( Ogbakor Ikwerre chieftain)
"Ikwerreland is not part of Biafra, we are not Ibos"- Ikwerre people.

Now see how IPOB reacts to this

Ikwerre must be Igbo
Ikwerre migrated from Nkwerre Imo state
Ikwerre and Igweocha is Biafraland.


What do we call this, if not extreme case of inferiority complex?

When someone rejects you, the right thing to do if you are psychologically normal, is to move on from the person.
I'm happy that people are now beginning to speak. I've lived in PH and I;m very familiar with this issue. Deep down, every Ikwerre know they are igbo but will NEVER accept it until when it's convenient for them. Take Rotimi Amaechi for example, he never admitted to be igbo until just recently when he started playing national politics.

I personally don't like Ikwerre people, the way they despise igbos. I wonder why any sane igbo man will want to attach to these lazy uneducated lots. Why can't we call their bluff the way they call our bluff. Ikwerre is a minority group and igbos keep embarrassing themselves with this set of people.

The funny thing is their are still people in Rivers State that accept their igboness, like the Oyigbo axis, Oyigbo is like a typical igbo community on any good day and they are one of the marginalized communities in Rivers State. If the misguided igbos can use the same energy they use in claiming Ikwerre people to empower these communities to take over power in Rivers State, Ikwerre will come begging. They have no option.

Ikwerre should be the ones begging us to accept them not the other way round. Many times, most igbos act emotionally and dont think

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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 11:49pm On Oct 15, 2018
pazienza:


You couldn't have put it any better. Our IPOB people suffer from extreme case of low self esteem. These people would do anything to get these non Igbos to accept Biafra or Igbo tag.

I had asked them repeatedly, of what use is a brother who would not identify with you because you are supposedly weak, and gives you the condition that he can only be comfortable identifying with you, only and when you must have built yourself strong?

My answer is that such a brother is useless and not needed by anyone. A brother is only a brother because he can identify with you when you are weak. Because, let's face it, once you are strong, rich and influential, the whole world will identify with you, in which case you don't need such useless brother.

Substitute You with Ndiigbo (SE) and the brother with Igbo denying Igboids in SS.
And you see why I don't regard them at all.

The next question is what have those Ikwerre and Co achieved that make these IPOB crew chase them like this, since it's now about achievements?
Please, Biafra must not come from IPOB, for the good of Igbo people.

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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 11:57pm On Oct 15, 2018
ckenneths:
This house in that picture, is at least 85 years old cheesy
Roof knocked off and changed, windows and doors replaced, repainted and refurnished.

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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 11:57pm On Oct 15, 2018
ckenneths:
This house in that picture, is at least 85 years old cheesy
Roof knocked off and changed, windows and doors replaced, repainted and refurnished.

I told Afonjas that their problem is lack of maintenance, they claim its due to early civilization. All 1990s Ibadan houses are red roofs

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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 11:57pm On Oct 15, 2018
ckenneths:
This house in that picture, is at least 85 years old cheesy
Roof knocked off and changed, windows and doors replaced, repainted and refurnished.

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Re: . by pazienza(m): 12:01am On Oct 16, 2018
UdechiHD:
Lol! Pazienza my man, even with your Igboid moniker as at then, I could still tell it was you. Well I created this moniker from my lead character in one of my short stories. UdechiHD seems cool to me.
Well, you should know it's Chiwude talking to you. I'm beginning to like this new moniker than my previous one.

OK. Welcome back brother. I never for once thought you are anything but Igbo.
You always gave me the vibe of an Igbo who is an APC/Okorocha supporter. But your loyalty towards Igbo progress has never been in doubt.

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Re: . by Nobody: 12:54am On Oct 16, 2018
pazienza:


OK. Welcome back brother. I never for once thought you are anything but Igbo.
You always gave me the vibe of an Igbo who is an APC/Okorocha supporter. But your loyalty towards Igbo progress has never been in doubt.
Thanks! It was during his first tenure that I supported Rochas. But as soon as I saw cracks in his 2nd coming, I became his number 1 enemy and want him pushed out at all cost. However politically, let me say that have tasted all parties. PDP, APC, PPA, APGA but among all of them , my loyalty to APGA is unwavering.
Have a wonderful night my brother!

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Re: . by Cjrane2: 1:54am On Oct 16, 2018
globemoney01:

For peter obi hired online herdsmen like Cjrane2, it's either Peter Obi or nothing, they know nothing but to make noise online, they made the same noise during the Anambra elections until they were humbled.

If SE leaders fail to endorse peter obi, there nothing anyone can do about it!

Nwokem,

Don bi silly!

I lash at Obi in areas where he failed woefully and i praise him in areas as education, health and linking Anambra with roads where he achieved a feat.

As for his V.P nomination, you cannot count 5 Igbo people today qualified to rule Nigeria without mentioning Peter Obi. We should learn to speak the truth when people tried their best and condemn them where they failed.

Again, i will repeat it here as i have said numerous times. Not Peter Obi nor any politician has enough money to buy my conscience. I will however like to chop their money if you can give me some.

As 2019, the choice is clear. Vote for Nigeria to continue to stagnate under the dullard and the massive slaughter which the herdsmen will resume once the Jan-jaweeed nomad wins OR Vote for economic prosperity and re-emergence of Nigeria that will regain it's place as Africa's most prosperous and fastest developing country.

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Re: . by hammerF: 1:59am On Oct 16, 2018
Cjrane2:


Nwokem,

Don bi silly!

I lash at Obi in areas where he failed and i praise him in areas as education, health and linking Anambra with roads.

As for his V.P nomination, you cannot count 5 Igbo people today qualified to rule Nigeria without mentioning Peter Obi. We should learn to speak the truth when people tried their best and condemn them where they failed.

Again, i will repeat it here as i have said numerous times. Peter Obi nor any politician has enough money to buy my conscience.

WORD!

THIS IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT FOR MOST IGBO MEN HERE TO GRASP.

IT IS JUST LIKE EXPLAINING TO DEM THAT SS POLITICS IS SOMETHING THE SOUTHEAST MUST PLAY

OR IGBOID GROUP IS A POLITICS THAT WE MUST PLAY IN TH EAST

IT IS TOO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.

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Re: . by hammerF: 2:02am On Oct 16, 2018
NO THE IGBOID HATE US.

THE IGBOID ARE NOT OUR BROTHERS.

OK SINCE WEN DID THIS START? AFTER BIAFRA WAR.

WAT IS OUR PLAN AND STRATEGY TO HANDLE THE IGBOID MATTER? CRY AND COMPLAIN.

CAN WE BUILD A DEEP SEAPORT IN OPOBO SINCE THEY ARE ALSO IGBO? NO THEY HATE US, AND HAVE JOINED IJAW.

ABSOLUTELY NO MOVEMENT.

SO WEN U DONT MOVE, HOW WILL ANYTHING CHANGE?

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Re: . by Cjrane2: 2:21am On Oct 16, 2018
hammerF:


WORD!

THIS IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT FOR MOST IGBO MEN HERE TO GRASP.

IT IS JUST LIKE EXPLAINING TO DEM THAT SS POLITICS IS SOMETHING THE SOUTHEAST MUST PLAY

OR IGBOID GROUP IS A POLITICS THAT WE MUST PLAY IN TH EAST

IT IS TOO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.


If i was not truly Igbo, perhaps what some people say would get to me. But all the guys that we went to CIC with, all my guys we grew up at Onitsha and we still discuss Anambra and SE progress today know that my parents were born in what is known as Anioma and i grew up in what is known as Enugu and Anambra states. These states formed me, i speak the dialect better than my hometown dialect. So, no shrimp can wish that away.

My problem with SE politics is that we are too fixed at a position and thus become what Americans call "sitting ducks". Once we start saying something and circumstances change, we don't change with the changing times. We tend to stay where we are and continue saying what has become outdated by recent events.

We know that Igbo will be better in a restructured Nigeria than a landlocked Biafra. Those that doubt that iam a staunch IPOB supporter can go here and read my posts: https://www.nairaland.com/cjrane/posts/23
https://www.nairaland.com/cjrane/posts/20

I started pushing for a UN sponsored referendum on the Biafra question under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights instead of our people to pick up arms. I also disagreed that boycotting elections in a country like Nigeria where rigging is second nature should be a strategy. Each time you boycott, they will simply use the opportunity to rig in the worst types of characters. If Boycott must be an option, then it has to occur in at least 13 states simultaneously. That way, the constitutional 25% votes in 24 states will become impossible to meet. Boycotting elections in just 5 SE states is political suicide by those who do not understand the 1999 constitution which we operate.

My strategy have been simple

1. VOTE MASSIVELY FOR A CANDIDATE that will at-least table the issue of devolution of powers (So called Restructuring)

2. If conditions in Nigeria become unbearable, resist the urge to pick up a weapon, instead - Agitate for a UN or AU supervised referendum on the Biafra question


Right now, we have a chance to make number 1 a reality. Therefore, our plan A must be to mobilize massively to get Plan A. Believe me, Plan B (#2) should be the last resort because it is not as favorable as plan A. Even though most youths think once we are in Biafra, every problem in the world suddenly disappear and we magically have $1 trillion dollars to budget every year for 10 years and build Dubai overnight. Nwanne, it won't be that easy initially and a lot of youths shouting Biafra now won't even have the patience to allow the new Biafran government find it's foot. They will be rioting everyday and want money to fall from heaven to provide everything they need. I know they won't understand what i'm saying now, but i know option #1 is our best option so far.

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