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Is Islam Dying In The North? by Astrosmart: 9:14am On Oct 21, 2018
Before then you won't see any church up north now the core north are majority after Muslims,even certain communities are Christians dominated areas..

The middle belt that used to be majority Muslims are now minority that's why there are ethic cleansing done by Muslims..

So is Islam dying in Nigeria at at large?
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by Hier(m): 11:10am On Oct 21, 2018
There are intercessors praying ceaselessly for the conversion of souls all over the world, converting a Muslim is not an easy task save that God interfere, and moreover, there is always the isolation and attempt on the life of any Muslim whenever they convert, some lose the support of loved one's, but God is faithful. Prayers are made and sermons are preached and evangelist are deployed.

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Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by sulasa07(m): 12:21pm On Oct 21, 2018
Hier:
There are intercessors praying ceaselessly for the conversion of souls all over the world, converting a Muslim is not an easy task save that God interfere, and moreover, there is always the isolation and attempt on the life of any Muslim whenever they convert, some lose the support of loved one's, but God is faithful. Prayers are made and sermons are preached and evangelist are deployed.
Look at you saying Muslim converts to xtian lose support from loved ones,does xtianity not do the same and also when a xtian converts to Muslim,you people take everything from the person and have seen pastors jailed for joining Islam

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Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by Kolanist(m): 1:02pm On Oct 21, 2018
sulasa07:

Look at you saying Muslim converts to xtian lose support from loved ones,does xtianity not do the same and also when a xtian converts to Muslim,you people take everything from the person and have seen pastors jailed for joining Islam

Pastor jailed for joining Islam� .al-Taquia(permisible Islamic lies) of the highest level. Our bible didn't tell us to persicute ex-christians but ur islamic books tell you through the "apostasy law" to kill ex-muslims

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Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by sulasa07(m): 1:09pm On Oct 21, 2018
Kolanist:

Pastor jailed for joining Islam� .al-Taquia(permisible Islamic lies) of the highest level. Our bible didn't tell us to persicute ex-christians but ur islamic books tell you through the "apostasy law" to kill ex-muslims
Point where exactly Qur'an said kill those that leave Islam except,I repeat except during War times n I will leave Islam
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by sulasa07(m): 1:12pm On Oct 21, 2018
Kolanist:

Pastor jailed for joining Islam� .al-Taquia(permisible Islamic lies) of the highest level. Our bible didn't tell us to persicute ex-christians but ur islamic books tell you through the "apostasy law" to kill ex-muslims
2 Chronicles 15:13-But that whoever would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.
Luke 19:27-But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by sulasa07(m): 1:19pm On Oct 21, 2018
Kolanist:

Pastor jailed for joining Islam� .al-Taquia(permisible Islamic lies) of the highest level. Our bible didn't tell us to persicute ex-christians but ur islamic books tell you through the "apostasy law" to kill ex-muslims
Taqqiya is allowed when ur live is at stake,Ex.Two Muslims were captured by idol worshippers n were asked to worship their idols,d first Muslim denied and he was beheaded while d second worship the idol and he was left to go.When he got home and relayed what happened to the Prophet (Muhammad) and The prophet said d first died as a Martyr and d second did not commit any sin coz he was forced to do it to save his life.
Conclusion, I'm not lieing about d pastor,he's quite famous around South West Nigeria b4 he left for Islam,you can stylishly ask ur elders about it.
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by Kolanist(m): 8:10am On Oct 22, 2018
sulasa07:

Taqqiya is allowed when ur live is at stake,Ex.Two Muslims were captured by idol worshippers n were asked to worship their idols,d first Muslim denied and he was beheaded while d second worship the idol and he was left to go.When he got home and relayed what happened to the Prophet (Muhammad) and The prophet said d first died as a Martyr and d second did not commit any sin coz he was forced to do it to save his life.
Conclusion, I'm not lieing about d pastor,he's quite famous around South West Nigeria b4 he left for Islam,you can stylishly ask ur elders about it.

So it is permitted in Islam to commit a sin(especially lies) to save ur neck ,what a religion!!. Judge within urself if that person stands before God and says I maimed&crippled innocent women&children in other to save my neck,I slept with my mother in other to save my neck ,I commited blasphemy/abomination in other to save my neck,I slept with an animal in other to save my neck ,I lied and the lies got helpless unbelievers killed(and they died and went to hell) because I wanted to save my stingy self. Wow ,it is never permitted in Christianity ,even our 15 year old Leah Sharibu ur Jihadists captured because she refused to join Islam knows that .Just to let you know the Lord God of creation is holy&righteous He would never permit a lier(no matter lies) into heaven if he died in the lies. It is a martyr who dies for righteousness&truth sake in christianity but it is a martyr with paradise rewards who dies fighting Jihad in Islam .I WILL NOT ADVICE YOU TO WAIT TILL YOU DIE BEFORE YOU REALISE WHO THE REAL MARTYS WITH HEAVENLY REWARDS ARE

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Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by Kolanist(m): 8:22am On Oct 22, 2018
sulasa07:

2 Chronicles 15:13-But that whoever would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.
Luke 19:27-But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

The Lord Jesus has modified the laws of Moses(old testament laws of the 2chronicles15:13 u quoted), Moses(old testament) said "an eye for an eye....." Jesus says "resist no evil" ,Moses said "hate ur enemies" Jesus says "love ur enemies" read MATTHEW 5:38-48.
The LUKE 19:26-27 u quoted that says ".....slay them......." is totaly out of context ,it is just a PARABLE that The Lord Jesus was telling on His way to Jerusalem, READ THE INITIALS of that same LUKE 19:11.
You are not ashamed of ur religion. muhamad the founder of islam did many atrocities but tell me one atrocity The Lord Jesus Christ the founder of Christianity did
References to prophet Mohammed’s crimes:

— Muhammad’s marriage to 6yr old Aisha-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 and 236).
— Muhammad married his adopted Son’s wife called ‘Zaynab’ after lusting for her and then banned Adoption in Islam- (Surah 33:37,Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 305, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3330, Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 516,The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein, 1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3).
— Muhammad and the Quran sanctioned sex with your wives and ‘married’ slave girls-(Quran – 70:22-30, 23:5,6, 4:24, 33:50),
— Muhammad speaks of sex with Slave Girls- (Sahih Bukhari – Volume 3, #432, Volume 9, #506, Volume 5, #637, Sahih Muslim, Volume 2, #3371)

— Muhammad disagreed with ‘Reproduction interruptus’ with slave girls- he supported RAPE.

— Muhammad forces a 17 yr old Jewish girl called Safiyyah to marry him and rapes her on the same day her husband and family are killed in the battle of Khaibar (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

— Al Tabari reported in his (‘The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam’, Translated by Michael Fishbein) that even some of Muhammad’s wives and companions were shocked that he forced Safiyyah to marry him after beheading her husband, brother and father

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Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by Nobody: 8:27am On Oct 22, 2018
Muslims love lies too much,in islam when you leave their fold they will hunt you down and kill you{apostasy law}, in christianity thou ur family might be angry but they can never attempt to take ur life

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Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by Kolanist(m): 8:31am On Oct 22, 2018
sulasa07:

Point where exactly Qur'an said kill those that leave Islam except,I repeat except during War times n I will leave Islam

So in Islam when there is no war you can leave Islam but when there is war you can't leave Islam .BALLONEY!#!. And also why are you in denial ,every Islamic country with sharia kills or persicutes people that leave islam, goto Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan or Iran and tell them outrightly you no longer follow Islam and see what they will do to you.do you think I don't know about "honor killing" in islam.why are you behaving as if you don't know about the "apostasy law" .

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Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by sulasa07(m): 8:36am On Oct 22, 2018
Kolanist:

So in Islam when there is no war you can leave Islam but when there is war you can't leave Islam .BALLONEY!#!. And also why are you in denial ,every Islamic country with sharia kills or persicutes people that leave islam, goto Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan or Iran and tell them outrightly you no longer follow Islam and see what they will do to you.do you think I don't know about "honor killing" in islam.why are you behaving as if you don't know about the "apostasy law" .
Apostasy law doesn't exist in d Qur'an
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by Nobody: 11:56am On Oct 22, 2018
Look at you saying Muslim converts to xtian lose support from loved ones,does xtianity not do the same and also when a xtian converts to Muslim
There are fewer cases when some Christians don't show love ones compare to Muslims. At the end of the day the convert decides if to adhere to the new belief or go back to his or her former religion.
,you people take everything from the person and have seen pastors jailed for joining Islam
I do not support the action given to the acclaimed pastor but that person was never a pastor. Anybody can claim to be pastor but not all are pastors.
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by Nobody: 12:11pm On Oct 22, 2018
2 Chronicles 15:13-But that whoever would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

many people misquote and attempt to say it means that God calls Christians to kill non-believers.

Well first off it’s important to look at the whole chapter so you can see what is really being said here. 2 Chronicles 15:1-15 details how Asa, the king of Judah, and the people of Judah and Benjamin, had strayed away from the God of Israel but had now turned back to the Lord in times of great distress. It goes on further to say that in their repentance they made a covenant between themselves and God to:

“…seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, 13 but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death” (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)

They were not by any means saying all people who don’t believe in God should be killed, they were saying: we as individuals and as a group are committing to seek and follow God and if we don’t follow through on this covenant we make with God, we should be put to death.


Luke 19:27-But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

There is a statement in the Parable of the pounds (Luke 19:11-27) that many opponents of Christianity have used to convey the point that Jesus commanded his disciples to kill anyone that refuse to be ruled by Christ. In fact
you quoted that verse out of context without understanding the reason behind that verse of the scriptures. this is the verse you misquoted:

"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me."-Luke 19:27

Of course this is taken out of context and miss-interpreted. How is this a miss-interpretation? Did not Jesus make this statement? Yes he did. So how can we Christians explain this command of Jesus, to kill those who would not be ruled by him?

First of all, if you notice the disciples were not a military group. They were not equipped to make war or fight. Neither did they carry out this alleged command of Christ, did you ever wondered why? It is because Jesus did not direct them to do so, because he was reciting not his words but the words of a character in his Parable of the Pounds. The disciples knew that Jesus was just telling a story, not giving a command to be followed.
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by Nobody: 12:21pm On Oct 22, 2018
otuekong1 post=72305473[b:
]Muslims love lies too much,in islam when you leave their fold they will hunt you down and kill yo[/b]u{apostasy law}, in christianity thou ur family might be angry but they can never attempt to take ur life
Not all Muslims
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by Nobody: 12:22pm On Oct 22, 2018
otuekong1 post=72305473
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Muslims love lies too much,in islam when you leave their fold they will hunt you down and kill yo[/b]u{apostasy law}, in christianity thou ur family might be angry but they can never attempt to take ur life
Not all Muslims
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by enilove(m): 1:21pm On Oct 22, 2018
sulasa07:

Apostasy law doesn't exist in d Qur'an

But it exists in the hadith :

Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17:
Sahih Bukhari :
Narrated 'Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by iamgenius(m): 3:26pm On Oct 22, 2018
enilove:


But it exists in the hadith :

Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17:
Sahih Bukhari :
Narrated 'Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."




And so? What's your problem?
Re: Is Islam Dying In The North? by enilove(m): 5:23pm On Oct 22, 2018
iamgenius:
And so? What's your problem?

My problem is that you are in a WRONG religion and you don't know .

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