This guy is on a rampage! And he has the support of a lot of Americans. If he wins a second term, it will get worse.

LI:
I don't know when this will happen but it is worth noting.



Source:
Bloomberg [url]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-30/trump-to-sign-order-ending-birthright-citizenship-axios?utm_content=business&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business[/url]

Bossman:
This guy is on a rampage! And he has the support of a lot of Americans. If he wins a second term, it will get worse.

The thing is, he is likely to win

Oh boy! Trump is on the verge of signing an Executive Order, targeting Birthright Citizenship!

KaptainAfrika:
Oh boy! Trump is on the verge of signing an Executive Order, targeting Birthright Citizenship!

lol!...why are you going along with the unnecessary panic news?

He can't change the Constitution unilaterally...he needs Congress to do it.

I am sure he knows this, probably why he is going after illegal migrants and non-citizens...probably something American citizens won't mind. He may not succeed but I won't be surprised, if US Embassy's start denying visas for childbirth and CBP Officers send pregnant women back.

Beautyaddy:


lol!...why are you going along with the unnecessary panic news?

He can't change the Constitution unilaterally...he needs Congress to do it.

Please I have a question about filling DS 160, for the US contact should it be the name of the hospital (organization) or the name the physician?
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Please enlighten us if you understand how it works or you are a lawyer.

I always thought it needed a constitutional amendment but executive order to me sounds like he can just write and sign and it is effective immediately.

I'm not a lawyer so pardon my ignorance.

Beautyaddy:


lol!...why are you going along with the unnecessary panic news?

He can't change the Constitution unilaterally...he needs Congress to do it.

KaptainAfrika:
I am sure he knows this, probably why he is going after illegal migrants and non-citizens...probably something American citizens won't mind. He may not succeed but I won't be surprised, if US Embassy's start denying visas for childbirth and CBP Officers send pregnant women back.

Yes, he can unilaterally stopped that. Granting US visa for birth tourism is not in the US Constitution.

isysleek:
Please enlighten us if you understand how it works or you are a lawyer.

I always thought it needed a constitutional amendment but executive order to me sounds like he can just write and sign and it is effective immediately.

I'm not a lawyer so pardon my ignorance.

Yes, anything that needs the Amendment of the US Constitution need 2/3 of the US congress votes.

If Trump tries to do it by executive order it will be taken to court by the immigrant advocacy groups and challenged.

I just watched the interview now. He didnt come up with it on his own it was the interviewer that asked him the question and he was surprised that they knew he had that plan. So the news is not new he said it 2016 when he came on board. Just that he has secretly been working on it to come up with the executive order story. And he just going to effect it suddenly if its not contested in court.

Beautyaddy:


Yes, anything that needs the Amendment of the US Constitution need 2/3 of the US congress votes.

If Trump tries to do it by executive order it will be taken to court by the immigrant advocacy groups and challenged.

Nawa ooooo

Hmmmmm however, the caption under the news is also worth noting.
Does he have the power to do It. . .. When it will happen

Hmmmmm however, the caption under the news is also worth noting.
Does he have the power to do It. . .. When it will happen

@Nogen pls i sent you a mail kindly respond i need your help thanks.

Trump should calm down biko and let me finish giving birth to all my children ooo. Haba, these was how he was threatening in 2016 too.

Hope he remember that his grandfather is a German America too.

And if it ends up at the already conservative leaning supreme court, it will likely pass.

I will not be surprised if, due to this news alone, things start to get difficult at visa offices and entry points for those seeking to do exactly this.

Beautyaddy:


Yes, anything that needs the Amendment of the US Constitution need 2/3 of the US congress votes.

If Trump tries to do it by executive order it will be taken to court by the immigrant advocacy groups and challenged.

Bossman:
And if it ends up at the already conservative leaning supreme court, it will likely pass.

That's a 50/50.

One of the Conservative judges might lean moderate.

Beautyaddy:


That's a 50/50.

One of the Conservative judges might lean moderate.

Not on these issues. A lot of American are against birthright citizenship. Even democrats. I’m thinking he might end birth tourism or stifle it at best. Maybe put a clause that one of the parents has to be a US citizen or maybe some residency requirements before citizenship can be established.

This ogbeni is crazy as they come. Smh.

MamaOO:

Not on this issues. A lot of American are against birthright citizenship. Even democrats. [b]I’m thinking he might end birth tourism [/b]or stifle it at best. Maybe put a clause that one of the parents has to be a US citizen or maybe some residency requirements before citizenship can be established.

This ogbeni is crazy as they come. Smh.

Yes, I know he can end birth tourism even today. It is not even a law that was passed by congress. How did it come about?

Now to end birthright citizenship by just soil...hmmm, if some Democrats are for it to end then getting to end it through congress wouldn't be a fight.

Trump claims he can defy Constitution and end birthright citizenship

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/30/politics/donald-trump-ending-birthright-citizenship/index.html

For our info....... smh Trump sha

Beautyaddy:


Yes, I know he can end birth tourism even today. It is not even a law that was passed by congress. How did it come about?

Now to end birthright citizenship by just soil...hmmm, if some Democrats are for it to end then getting to end it through congress wouldn't be a fight.

Yea. I guess it came by due to the fact that there was no clause in the constitution banning or stopping north tourism. So, no law to stand on if you’re denying entry to a person seeking to birth for citizenship. People can/will sue and can/will win.

This citizenship issue has been a touchy issue for several years. It’s been a subject of contention for so long. And remember, some Democrats can have some conservative views and lean conservative on some issues. Heck, even a lot of Nigerians here are in support. I guess it’s because of the sharp rise in birth tourism these past few years.

Remember, the travel ban is still in effect, albeit revised but still effective.

MamaOO:

Yea. I guess it came by due to the fact that there was no clause in the constitution banning or stopping north tourism. So, no law to stand on if you’re denying entry to a person seeking to birth for citizenship. People can/will sue and can/will win.

This citizenship issue has been a touchy issue for several years. It’s been a subject of contention for so long. And remember, some Democrats can have some conservative views and lean conservative on some issues. Heck, even a lot of Nigerians here are in support. I guess it’s because of the sharp rise in birth tourism these past few years.

Remember, the travel ban is still in effect, albeit revised but still effective.

Huh? I'm not aware of that part.

I want to believe that the US immigration officers are already aware that most people will still lie on their visiting visa applications or conceal their pregnancies and when granted will end up having their babies once they get to the US already knowing the baby will still acquire the US citizenship by just soil.

Beautyaddy:


Huh? I'm not aware of that part.

I want to believe that the US immigration officers are already aware that most people will still lie on their visiting visa applications or conceal their pregnancies and when granted will end up having their babies once they get to the US already knowing the baby will still acquire the US citizenship by just soil.

What I meant was that, if there is no legal justification or constitutional backing as to why a CBP officer sends a woman back to her country and does so simply out of spite because she’s come to give birth, some people might/can sue and could possibly win. People sue the government here and win. You know that. Nothing is impossible in the court of law. And you I believe the CBP officers are also bound by law to be fair and just in what they do.

MamaOO:

What I meant was that, if there is no legal justification or constitutional backing as to why a CBP officer sends a woman back to her country and does so simply out of spite because she’s come to give birth, some people might/can sue and could possibly win. People sue the government here and win. You know that. Nothing is impossible in the court of law. And you I believe the CBP officers are also bound by law to be fair and just in what they do.

I understand you well.

People who do sue the US government and end up winning are the one's that the government have acted against what the law says.

Now for allowing US birth tourism to slide I think it might have been imbedded somewhere in the US immigration law somewhere...one is yet to find it.

Akorkor:
Trump should calm down biko and let me finish giving birth to all my children ooo. Haba, these was how he was threatening in 2016 too.

Hope he remember that his grandfather is a German America too.

Hmmmm, if he eventually does, everyone will face Canada na, shuoo.

NicoleObi:
Congratulations...thank God for His mercies.

Please which peditrician did u use at the hospital? I am currently using the same hospital n need a peditrician. Although i was given a list of peditricians to pick from at the doctors office...needed your opinion based on experience.

I used Sheridan peadiatric

What about the billion of dollars birth tourism brings to the USA..people are quIck to mention those who don’t pay bills then abscond..I hope he doesn’t send America in to a Great Depression..it’s about time China takes over anyways

US president Donald Trump revealed today (Oct. 30) that he plans to terminate birthright citizenship with an executive order. He told Axios on HBO that the practice of recognizing as an American any child born on US soil, regardless of their parents’ immigration status, is “ridiculous” and that “it has to end.”

Trump contends that he doesn’t need a constitutional amendment to change the current standard, which is set out in the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution, adopted in 1866. The text provides that “[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Thus, many constitutional law scholars will argue that Trump’s effort is not only misguided but doomed to fail because it contradicts the amendment. And since the order will almost immediately be challenged in court, it will likely be stayed, or suspended, pending judicial review.

While the amendment was passed in 1866 and wasn’t written by the original framers of the Constitution—whose thinking originalists worship but whom did not address the question of precisely who might be a US citizen—it will still be a very tall order for the president to convince the high court to simply set aside the text for his interpretation. The justices have never been presented with a case that specifically addresses whether birthright citizenship applies to a child of undocumented immigrants, and an executive order to reinterpret the amendment would no doubt lead to such a case. But it’s not at all a sure bet that, even with a predominantly conservative bench, the president’s interpretation of the law will prevail.

Judge James C. Ho on the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans, a Trump appointee, believes that changing how the amendment is applied would be unconstitutional. Ho wrote in 2006 that at the time of its passage “no Senator disputed the meaning of the amendment with respect to alien children.”

The conservative judge’s view is important because executive orders are subject to judicial review to ensure they don’t run afoul of the constitution. In fact, the Constitution is what gives Trump the power to issue orders to begin with. And it will be difficult for the president, who has made much ado about ensuring that his Supreme Court appointees are originalists who adhere to the text of the constitution, to make a winning case for ignoring the plain meaning of the 14th Amendment’s words.

Sparkle1515:
What about the billion of dollars birth tourism brings to the USA..people are quIck to mention those who don’t pay bills then abscond..I hope he doesn’t send America in to a Great Depression..it’s about time China takes over anyways

Billions? Not quite. Tons of people actually don’t pay. And if they stop birth tourism, the economy isn’t gonna crash. Trust me. Insurance premium might go up though. Keyword—Might

Tons of people you mean illegal immigrant,those who overstay their visa..there is a whole lot of angle to this issue..is he talking about those who birth and go or those who overstay their visa ,birth their babies and enjoy everything a citizen enjoys...at the end of the day all na jus soli..oga trump has a lot of work to do not just this usual mouthing antics of his

MamaOO:

Billions? Not quite. Tons of people actually don’t pay. And if they stop birth tourism, the economy isn’t gonna crash. Trust me. Insurance premium might go up though. Keyword—Might

Sparkle1515:
Tons of people you mean illegal immigrant,those who overstay their visa..there is a whole lot of angle to this issue..is he talking about those who birth and go or those who overstay their visa ,birth their babies and enjoy everything a citizen enjoys...at the end of the day all na jus soli..oga trump has a lot of work to do not just this usual mouthing antics of his

Yes. Illegal immigrants, overstayers, even people who come on a visa, birth and leave without payment. It’s a lot of people like I said. I know a couple of Nigerians who had their babies here and didn’t pay. I’ve not seen them back since they had their babies so maybe they were denied renewal. But truth it, tons and tons do not pay. Especially Mexicans. I know a couple of doctors here in California that work in cities close to the CA-MEX border and they tell us stories.

What I’m thinking is he might put a clause on this thing. Like having some kind of residency requirement or citizenship requirements on the parents before the kids can acquire citizenship.

I hate what he’s doing, but this guy is as narcissistic as they come. We thought the travel ban was all bark and no bite. Nobody thought the travel ban will stand, but look at where we are now. And with the upcoming midterm elections, he will do anything to appeal to his crazy fan-base. And Congress is conservative leaning right now, those old geezers will do anything to keep their seats. Not that this affects me or my kids in anyway but it’s just not right.

..but whatever it’s high time ignorant Nigerians including me realize that America is an overrated society and for those of us that genuinely go for birth tourism,pay our bills just so we know the outrageous bills we pump into that society all in the name of jus soli isn’t worth it..make Nigeria get so people will struggle to come and birth here unto the next canada..that thread will flourish now.:the fear of trump

MamaOO:

Yes. Illegal immigrants, overstayers, even people who come on a visa, birth and leave without payment. It’s a lot of people like I said. I know a couple of Nigerians who had their babies here and didn’t pay. I’ve not seen them back since they had their babies so maybe they were denied renewal. But truth it, tons and tons do not pay. Especially Mexicans. I know a couple of doctors here in California that work in cities close to the CA-MEX border and they tell us stories.

What I’m thinking is he might put a clause on this thing. Like having some kind of residency requirement or citizenship requirements on the parents before the kids can acquire citizenship.

I hate what he’s doing, but this guy is as narcissistic as they come. We thought the travel ban was all bark and no bite. Nobody thought the travel ban will stand, but look at where we are now. And with the upcoming midterm elections, he will do anything to appeal to his crazy fan-base. And Congress is conservative leaning right now, those old geezers will do anything to keep their seats. Not that this affects me or my kids in anyway but it’s just not right.