Fyorgyn:
Phew...

I have always wondered if having an American child is really worth it on the long run. I was speaking with my American colleagues and all three of them were just complaining...(these are "privileged" very well educated Americans with good jobs)

The inequity and high cost of health care in the country. the loans...huge huge student loans they are saddled with... the over reliance on "credit"... the taxes...the fact that my child will always pay taxes to the US govt wherever he lives in the World. T

Is it even really worth it?

I mean, yes, the passport allows you to travel visa free to many countries but what else?

Fyorgyn:
Phew...

I have always wondered if having an American child is really worth it on the long run. I was speaking with my American colleagues and all three of them were just complaining...(these are "privileged" very well educated Americans with good jobs)

The inequity and high cost of health care in the country. the loans...huge huge student loans they are saddled with... the over reliance on "credit"... the taxes...the fact that my child will always pay taxes to the US govt wherever he lives in the World. T

Is it even really worth it?

I mean, yes, the passport allows you to travel visa free to many countries but what else?

shawlar:


I am sure alot of us have pondered the same thing

it’s only an option for our kids, they are free to renounce the citizenship when they are 18 and just be Nigerian (I can imagine the kind of swear their own kids would swear for them if they get to know)

overlord77:


Hmmmm, if he eventually does, everyone will face Canada na, shuoo.

Fyorgyn:
Phew...

I have always wondered if having an American child is really worth it on the long run. I was speaking with my American colleagues and all three of them were just complaining...(these are "privileged" very well educated Americans with good jobs)


Is it even really worth it?

I mean, yes, the passport allows you to travel visa free to many countries but what else?

overlord77:


Hmmmm, if he eventually does, everyone will face Canada na, shuoo.

Seyeedat:
Only God can help those of us going for interview by November, only God.

aremso:
US president Donald Trump revealed today (Oct. 30) that he plans to terminate birthright citizenship with an executive order. He told Axios on HBO that the practice of recognizing as an American any child born on US soil, regardless of their parents’ immigration status, is “ridiculous” and that “it has to end.”

Trump contends that he doesn’t need a constitutional amendment to change the current standard, which is set out in the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution, adopted in 1866. The text provides that “[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Thus, many constitutional law scholars will argue that Trump’s effort is not only misguided but doomed to fail because it contradicts the amendment. And since the order will almost immediately be challenged in court, it will likely be stayed, or suspended, pending judicial review.

While the amendment was passed in 1866 and wasn’t written by the original framers of the Constitution—whose thinking originalists worship but whom did not address the question of precisely who might be a US citizen—it will still be a very tall order for the president to convince the high court to simply set aside the text for his interpretation. The justices have never been presented with a case that specifically addresses whether birthright citizenship applies to a child of undocumented immigrants, and an executive order to reinterpret the amendment would no doubt lead to such a case. But it’s not at all a sure bet that, even with a predominantly conservative bench, the president’s interpretation of the law will prevail.

Judge James C. Ho on the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans, a Trump appointee, believes that changing how the amendment is applied would be unconstitutional. Ho wrote in 2006 that at the time of its passage “no Senator disputed the meaning of the amendment with respect to alien children.”

The conservative judge’s view is important because executive orders are subject to judicial review to ensure they don’t run afoul of the constitution. In fact, the Constitution is what gives Trump the power to issue orders to begin with. And it will be difficult for the president, who has made much ado about ensuring that his Supreme Court appointees are originalists who adhere to the text of the constitution, to make a winning case for ignoring the plain meaning of the 14th Amendment’s words.

Ruthina000:
I hope this doesn't happen...... really, I don't pray it happens. Birthing is another revenue channel for USA and I don't think it would take effect anytime soon, just hoping though.
Goodday my people. Please I've read through this thread over and over again and I discovered that budget spreadsheet would also be required as part of the documents to hold to the consulate or embassy, please, will I prepare this myself? What is it really Al about or if possible can I get a sample of it? Please, I need your reply urgently.
Actually, I've googled it and saw quite different things but really could not tell which is which...... For our mamas in the house while have done this before and even our papas who are highly experienced in this, kindly explain what it means, if I'll prepare it myself like a list or even a sample of it, I really don't mind.
Thank you so much as I await your kind reply.

chibertha:
Correct and Ireland too

NothingDoMe:
And Canada will face everyone. Those guys do not play around.

Fyorgyn:


Canada is also considering stopping it.

http://www.canadianimmigration.net/news-articles/canada-considers-removing-citizenship-by-birth/

Fyorgyn:


Canada is also considering stopping it.

http://www.canadianimmigration.net/news-articles/canada-considers-removing-citizenship-by-birth/

Seyeedat:
Only God can help those of us going for interview by November, only God.

KennyMKO:


Keep hopes alive. People will still get their visas approved even till year 2019.

We did our interview on Monday, 29th October after being called for a follow-up interview (sequel to Dropbox application) and they were approved. Just make sure you have a genuine case, they hardly even ask for documents these days. Some were approved and some were denied on that day. In fact there was another person that came for a 221g appointment and still got denied.


The lessons learnt from my own experience at the center:

If you are called for a follow-up interview along with your family, ensure you have appointment for every member of the group.

Ensure you are abreast of all the info in your application and your travel history(international passport).

Best of luck to those that have not gone for their visa interviews.
Wat do u mean by appointment for each member of the group ?
Does that mean they wud be interviewed separately

aremso:



so all hope is gone?

Fyorgyn:


Not yet na...

You can also apply for Canadian PR so that You sef can get citizenship

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9oTF3ip_h8

Trump ending 14th Ammendment birthright

You ARE NOT a citizen of the corporation of the United states.
Trump says the 14th Ammendment means nothing to him and
if he says he has the final word on if you're a citizen or not.

Beautyaddy:


lol!...why are you going along with the unnecessary panic news?

He can't change the Constitution unilaterally...he needs Congress to do it.

Beautyaddy:


Yes, he can unilaterally stopped that. Granting US visa for birth tourism is not in the US Constitution.