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Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by otipoju(m): 10:49am On Nov 01, 2018
adenine02:
We learn everyday

I wonder why Christians always try to be double sided

The Bible was not related to "Jesus" in English

It was related to him in a language which he speaks Hebrew and Aramaic

So it's very logical to believe that the best way to understand God's words is to learn it in the language which God reviled it

Look at the Moslems they still call their God "Allah" and Christians don't even agree with that, I know Mohammed most have an English meaning but they still call it the original way they still read Koran in Arabic language even though many of them can not even speak the language

So I believe Christians too should do the same

Don't swallow all what this white men bring

Why read the Bible in English when the original text is in Hebrew and Aramaic

Why call Jesus when the original name is Yehoshua

Why call God when the original word is ʼĔlāhā, or Elah

Why read KGV of the Bible and not the original version

Why ware coats and tie to church when first Christians wore long gown and robe
O! U might say that old school
But Moslems are doing it
The Buddhist are doing it
The Hindu are doing it

Why celebrate Christmas when the first Christians never did

So please don't condemn freeze his try to show something that has long been over looked

And now some already calling him Antichrist while I really think he's Pro-christ


Shallom
Bro... Jesus command to the disciples was go ye therefore and preach the gospel to all nations.

God created all those languages and wanted to reveal his true self to all mankind using Israel as a starting point.

The Jews do not own God, neither does the Europeans.
All the world do not need to learn Hebrew to get closer to God and neither does Israel have exclusive rights to God.

While he has a valid point about tithes and the commercialisation of the gospel,Freeze has lost it abd is trying to create God in his own image.

There is a difference between exegesis and eisigesis.

I spent 4 years studying Religion in the University. So i think i know what i am saying.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by psalmuelwater(m): 11:01am On Nov 01, 2018
adenine02:
We learn everyday

I wonder why Christians always try to be double sided

The Bible was not related to "Jesus" in English

It was related to him in a language which he speaks Hebrew and Aramaic

So it's very logical to believe that the best way to understand God's words is to learn it in the language which God reviled it

Look at the Moslems they still call their God "Allah" and Christians don't even agree with that, I know Mohammed most have an English meaning but they still call it the original way they still read Koran in Arabic language even though many of them can not even speak the language

So I believe Christians too should do the same

Don't swallow all what this white men bring

Why read the Bible in English when the original text is in Hebrew and Aramaic

Why call Jesus when the original name is Yehoshua

Why call God when the original word is ʼĔlāhā, or Elah

Why read KGV of the Bible and not the original version

Why ware coats and tie to church when first Christians wore long gown and robe
O! U might say that old school
But Moslems are doing it
The Buddhist are doing it
The Hindu are doing it

Why celebrate Christmas when the first Christians never did

So please don't condemn freeze his try to show something that has long been over looked

And now some already calling him Antichrist while I really think he's Pro-christx


Shallom
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You, you have sense jare.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by paxonel(m): 11:08am On Nov 01, 2018
vaxx:
Do you think YHWH name will soon be abrogated.
not so soon.
But trust humans, someone along the line in the future will definitely change it to YKPU or something. But the person who is bearing the name will still remain the same person forever.

There will never be a time humans will not recognise that there was a creator
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by DaddyNimo(m): 11:18am On Nov 01, 2018
most of y'all are dumb, forking dullards. He's not saying the name Jesus isn't power or doesn't cure or cast whatever illnesses or demons y'all use it for, what he's saying is the word Jesus was invented few hundred years ago. Jesus wasn't His original name, it was probably invented for translation sake. that's what he's saying he didn't say weda the name is powerful or not. no wonder most of y'all are jobless, educated morons everywhere.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by DaddyNimo(m): 11:27am On Nov 01, 2018
if your name is ebun and someone calls you present or gift....will you reply cos it's the English translation of your name? or your name is ijeoma and I call u "safe journey" how far na? does it make sense? keep wallowing in ignorance y'all. Christianity is broad and wide, the more you seek to learn the better for you....many will enter hell fire for ignorance.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by Joevics(m): 11:41am On Nov 01, 2018
Seun:
Daddy Freeze is absolutely right that the original name of Jesus is 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'. The 'controversy' here is about whether or not the translated versions of this name in other languages, such as Ιησούς (Greek), Jesus (English), Jesu(Yoruba), Jizọs(Igbo), Yesu(Hausa), and Isa(Arabic) are as potent against demons, and for causing prayers to be instantly answered, as his original Jewish name, 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'.

One could argue that there is no magic in any of the names: they've all been used against ISIS and Boko Haram and none of them worked.
I'm not suprised Mr. Seun Again. Seem you only come out of hiding when you see a christain topic.

Well you are wrong, the name "Jesus" has worked over greater forces than ISIS and Boko haram.
As someone said above, its not about calling the name. Its more of who is calling it.

You can only be defeated by these forces, when you call the name, but doesn't believe in its potency.

Its just a matter of time Mr Seun, I see you preaching this same word you detest so much.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by Rukkyj(f): 11:50am On Nov 01, 2018
Well Daddy Freeze what does Acts 9:5 say? Well let me tell you And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord
said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks. He is also Yeshua. Hope you get this?
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by tosyne88(f): 11:53am On Nov 01, 2018
This guy is really sick. embarassed
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by adoniza(m): 11:53am On Nov 01, 2018
thorpido:
What proofs?He's ignorant about language and transliteration.
It's about the 'Who' first and not just the language.
Whatever name is called in any language,as long as it refers to 'that Person' aka the Living Word,then it's valid.
If your name is Chioma but then someone decides to call you gwongworo just because it's the same meaning as Chioma in their language, would you accept it?
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by abuomoos: 12:06pm On Nov 01, 2018
Tessyama1:
Controversial OAP and online pastor, Daddy Freeze says 99% of what our Pastors and GOs taught us is false.

According to him, the word 'Jesus' has no meaning and was invented by manipulators. Read his post below...

"

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpmVxtwAQ5t/

https://www.amagitesblog.com/2018/10/it-has-no-meaning-daddy-freeze-codemns-the-name-jesus.html
in any language
prophet Muhammad is prophet Muhammad
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by gidgiddy: 12:08pm On Nov 01, 2018
What Daddy Freeze is saying is actually true. The name "Jesus" is actually an invention. His real name was "Yeshua" which was then shortend to "Yeshu". When the bible was translated to Greek, "Yin Greek is "J" so the name now became "Jesu". When the bible was translated to English, they now started saying "Jesu's this" and "Jesu's" that. Along the line, the apostrophe disappeared and today, we have "Jesus"

But his original name is Yeshua, Jesus is an invented name
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by owoshuyi(m): 12:09pm On Nov 01, 2018
What more evidence do you need for you to now know that this guy is possessed by a demon? smh huh
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by thorpido(m): 12:22pm On Nov 01, 2018
adoniza:
If your name is Chioma but then someone decides to call you gwongworo just because it's the same meaning as Chioma in their language, would you accept it?
Why not?As long as it has the same meaning.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by adoniza(m): 12:26pm On Nov 01, 2018
thorpido:
Why not?As long as it has the same meaning.
Alright gwongworo, I hear you. But you need to understand that not everyone appreciates that.

For instance, some people also refer to Jesus as "bros J" as his pidgin English name. So tell me wongworo, Is that okay too?
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by Psoul(m): 12:27pm On Nov 01, 2018
4601CE:
But he provided proofs and evidence to back up his argument .
If you’re against him . Don’t be emotional .
attack him with your facts too.
Let it be made known to you that you can't solve God like an equation.
You cannot argue His things with the logic of man.
You cannot even test Him in the laboratory.

If your mind is open to learn the things of our Almighty God, He will open your eyes and you will understand it in it's fullness.
Know it also that there is no amount of criticism you will bring against the name JESUS that will reduce how we take Him or reduce the potency in His All Powerful Name.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by adoniza(m): 12:31pm On Nov 01, 2018
Psoul:
Let it be made known to you that you can't solve God like an equation.
You cannot argue His things with the logic of man.
You cannot even test Him in the laboratory.

If your mind is open to learn the things of our Almighty God, He will open your eyes and you will understand it in it's fullness.
Know it also that there is no amount of criticism you will bring against the name JESUS that will reduce how we take Him or reduce the potency in His All Powerful Name.
So how does providing proofs equates to solving god like equation?
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by adoniza(m): 12:33pm On Nov 01, 2018
WetinConsignMe:
God is prescient. He intended all along that His Son be widely known to Gentiles as Jesus and that's where the power lies not Yeshua. Try confronting demons with Yeshua.
So you read the mind of god to know his intentions, right?
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by thorpido(m): 12:38pm On Nov 01, 2018
adoniza:
Alright gwongworo, I hear you. But you need to understand that not everyone appreciates that.

For instance, some people also refer to Jesus as "bros J" as his pidgin English name. So tell me wongworo, Is that okay too?
Some people don't even like the names they were given.If it has the same meaning in another language then it means the same.
'Bros J' is a slang and does not qualify in this case.

There Olaniyi in Yoruba and Olaniyi in Igbo.They do not mean the same thing and are almost at two extremes.In this case it will not apply.If it however means the same thing in another language,then it is ok.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by adoniza(m): 12:38pm On Nov 01, 2018
thorpido:
No say You don't understand spiritual things.
Satan is a personality DIFFERENT from Jesus.The names cannot be interchanged.
Your moniker is Zeezxo,mine is Thorpido.If Thorpido is called will you answer? It's that simple.
In a certain language, Satan means Jesus. Are you aware?
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by adoniza(m): 12:47pm On Nov 01, 2018
thorpido:
Some people don't even like the names they were given.If it has the same meaning in another language then it means the same.
'Bros J' is a slang and does not qualify in this case.

There Olaniyi in Yoruba and Olaniyi in Igbo.They do not mean the same thing and are almost at two extremes.In this case it will not apply.If it however means the same thing in another language,then it is ok.
In your earlier posts you said it's about the "Who" and not so much about the word. Many people have now adapted the name "bros J" as their own version of Jesus in pidgin, so since it's about the "Who" which in this case is still intended for Jesus, why does it not apply?
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by Psoul(m): 12:49pm On Nov 01, 2018
vaxx:
i seriously think dady freeze is right also and contrary to your opinion ""Name is very important"".

Imagine yeshua as a persom is walking along the street of oshodi, and you called him by the name Jesus. Do you think he will answer you?
Imagine Gov Peter Ayodele Fayose moving on the street and someone calls The Rock, do you think he will turn to answer?
Yes he will. Peter means rock. When you know so many meanings of your name or you know so many tongues of your name, when any of them is mentioned, you will definitely turn towards the caller.

Our Lord Jesus is All Knowing. Whenever you calls His name, no matter the language you call Him with, He will come to answer you.

So Mr Freez, I don't think that Jesus complained to you concerning what His children call Him.

This man Daddy Freez and his businesses have bn going down since he started attacking Christ and His Church. You can't fight your creator and expect to progress. He will keep going down until he perishes unless he turn away fro
m his antichrist activities.

He cried out that for about two years now he has not had any client to his business. He confirmed that he has bn blacklisted and lost all his clients. He is foolishly accusing pastor for his ordeal.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by adenine02: 12:58pm On Nov 01, 2018
thorpido:
The dictionary doesn't define Christianity.The dictionary definitions were coined by linguists NOT spiritualists. They defined based on their understanding.Remember Jesus said many things that made some people say he was blaspheming.There is a higher knowledge.

We do not always have to cry and beg God to do something for us.Like I said earlier,there are levels of relationship.Jesus said,' the Father is with me........for I do those things that please Him'.John 8:29.Again He said, 'i no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.John15:15.See,it's servants and people with servant mentality that always have to 'beg and cry' to God.The bible says we are sons and 'cry'(meaning speak loud) Aba Father.He's Boss but He's our Father.

A lot of practices in Christianity were not given as rules.The Bible never said 'Celebrate Christianity every December as part of your worship'.However Christmas celebrates the birth of Jesus(forget about Christmas trees,decorations,father Christmas etc) and that is not outside Christian worship.

Yes,the Word of God remains the same but it changes us.
Bros try to understand we are learning

So don't rush to respond to me
Am not to outshine or outsmart you
I responded to your points stepwise

I didn't define Christianity

I defined religion and show you how Christianity fit into it

You hammer on the fact that Christianity as no rules, Haba Bros
What happened to the ten commandments

Even Jesus Himself said: “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill” ( Matthew 5:17 ).


What Law has he come to fulfill

Well you are free to believe Christianity your own way

Like I said the words God never change and you said "it change us" so we should not change it to suit our ways

Shallom
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by vaxx:
paxonel:
not so soon.
But trust humans, someone along the line in the future will definitely change it to YKPU or something. But the person who is bearing the name will still remain the same person forever.

There will never be a time humans will not recognise that there was a creator
Words do not always fit concepts and concepts do not often fit words. Words change, concepts change; and oftentimes the underlying concept changes . So If yhwh is abrogated to something like ykpu become the daily used . Then characteristic of yhwh will change alongside. Do you agree?

You should know by now jesus is not the same thing as yeshua and hence characters can't be the same.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by adabsmith(m): 1:00pm On Nov 01, 2018
psalmuelwater:
. For real? We are now guided by the spirit more than the book? When even God said he exalts his words above his throne? Mr man, you guys have confused the work of the holy spirit, and that's why more churches keeps springing up like what i don't know. A pastor will claim the holy spirit is leading him, another one will the holy spirit is leading him, to where exactly? To establish more churches abi? The BIBLE is the standard for all, if you like make your holy spirit hot pass fire, and as such should be in a language, so that we all will agree on one meaning of any particular verse. Not having 10000000000 meaning of just a verse, and we blame it on the holy spirit.
yes he's trying to tell u to do as ur spirit pleases grin
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by adabsmith(m): 1:01pm On Nov 01, 2018
Psoul:
Imagine Gov Peter Ayodele Fayose moving on the street and someone calls The Rock, do you think he will turn to answer?
Yes he will. Peter means rock. When you know so many meanings of your name or you know so many tongues of your name, when any of them is mentioned, you will definitely turn towards the caller.

Our Lord Jesus is All Knowing. Whenever you calls His name, no matter the language you call Him with, He will come to answer you.

So Mr Freez, I don't think that Jesus complained to you concerning what His children call Him.

This man Daddy Freez and his businesses have bn going down since he started attacking Christ and His Church. You can't fight your creator and expect to progress. He will keep going down until he perishes unless he turn away fro
m his antichrist activities.

He cried out that for about two years now he has not had any client to his business. He confirmed that he has bn blacklisted and lost all his clients. He is foolishly accusing pastor for his ordeal.
stop shooting yourself in the leg, are you saying the name Jesus is a nick name?
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by Nobody: 1:10pm On Nov 01, 2018
Psoul:
[s]

Let it be made known to you that you can't solve God like an equation.
You cannot argue His things with the logic of man.
You cannot even test Him in the laboratory.

If your mind is open to learn the things of our Almighty God, He will open your eyes and you will understand it in it's fullness.
Know it also that there is no amount of criticism you will bring against the name JESUS that will reduce how we take Him or reduce the potency in His All Powerful Name.[/s]
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by vaxx: 1:11pm On Nov 01, 2018
Psoul:
Imagine Gov Peter Ayodele Fayose moving on the street and someone calls The Rock, do you think he will turn to answer?
Yes he will. Peter means rock. When you know so many meanings of your name or you know so many tongues.
The world needs you to have a name in order to address you. They will use your name to pelt roses as well as stones at you. If yeshua found a name offensive he will not answer even if billions called him by that name.

Yeshu was corrupted to jesus in modern day. Yeshu was the shortening term the Hebrew uses to refered to jesus. It means may your name be wipe out.
Jesus and the hebrews never have a good term in the biblical history. And therefore decided to labelled him with such a name.


Can you imagine the Father in heaven saying to his Son “Jesus? Do you know him”, Son “Er No … never heard of him”, Father “Who are they praying to then?”, Son “Dunno!”

Do a resarch before you respond.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by adenine02: 1:22pm On Nov 01, 2018
otipoju:
Bro... Jesus command to the disciples was go ye therefore and preach the gospel to all nations.

God created all those languages and wanted to reveal his true self to all mankind using Israel as a starting point.

The Jews do not own God, neither does the Europeans.
All the world do not need to learn Hebrew to get closer to God and neither does Israel have exclusive rights to God.

While he has a valid point about tithes and the commercialisation of the gospel,Freeze has lost it abd is trying to create God in his own image.

There is a difference between exegesis and eisigesis.

I spent 4 years studying Religion in the University. So i think i know what i am saying.
I believe you know what you are saying

But don't qoute me out of context

It more than the language

Let assume you are igbo man raised in yoruba community will you adopt the fully the language spoken in the community as your own and even teach to your children ignoring your own

No bro NO


This is why the Jews, Arab, Hindu, Chinese, Moslems etc are different


This is the point I'm trying to make

These people follow their original way of life

Don't look at this people as primitive, this is why they can be identify with there believes

But Christianity; believes changes with time

That's why people now worship pastors instead of God


Shallom
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by ollah2: 1:31pm On Nov 01, 2018
Lilimax:
I did not wish him dead. His action speaks volume of his later end because by their fruits you shall know them.
You don't make mockery of God's anointed and think you'll end well.
I pray he retrace his steps back! embarassed
Madam, relax. I presume you are educated and you knew nothing when you were born. Also, you were schooled what you knew, absolutely nothing stops you from making a personal research to confirm if Freeze is right or wrong. God appreciates those who learn intoder to know the truth because he knows lies will be spread in his name.

I will implore you to use Google or Bing or any search engine that pleases you to read and make research then reach your own conclusion.

We have been fed too many lies and we will be worst set of fools if we can unlearn, relearn and learn as a 21st century illiterate are those who can't do these.

Have a blessed day
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by thorpido(m): 1:50pm On Nov 01, 2018
adoniza:
In a certain language, Satan means Jesus. Are you aware?
Tell me the language.
Re: "His Name Is Not Jesus" - Daddy Freeze Condemns The Name 'Jesus' by duptie(m): 1:53pm On Nov 01, 2018
...mad dog
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