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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:56pm On Nov 03, 2018
eph12:
You want us to revisit the argument again? We talked about this.
You cannot argue facts. I produced the stats at the time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:01pm On Nov 03, 2018
elampiro:
Who is Dalot in football when one mentions Young? Even Shaw? Shaw might not be able to achieve what Young has achieved in football. Young has provided goals for Martial than Shaw who plays on same side with him.
That your crush a winger is dragging places with Shaw and Dalot, you should know how useless he had become.
Just calm down, let Dalot recover first.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:02pm On Nov 03, 2018
Adisaowalla:
The truth is that you are obsessed with having a contrary view to obvious facts, all in the name of "being different from the majority".

At this rate, I am sure you would even argue that Obertan has always been better than Messi, if that's what it would take for you to have a "different, original opinion" on here.

Stop trying to always be "on other side" just to sound "original" - most times, you end up showcasing your cluelessness and sheer ignorance grin
Like you people thought I was wrong on Lukaku abi?

They also thought I wrong on Darmian because I wanted Valencia to play. It took us half a season for the majority to agree with me.

I say what I know is the truth. I see deep when I watch football. You guys will one day understand this lack of flair in passing of Shaw. Just watch him when he has the ball in the half line and Martial is marked. He is very predictable to square it side ways or back, and even done sluggishly even when a forward is calling for the ball in the middle of the final 3rd.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:07pm On Nov 03, 2018
patrickmuf:
That your crush a winger is dragging places with Shaw and Dalot, you should know how useless he had become.
Just calm down, let Dalot recover first.
The defenders should be ashamed that wingers are better in their defensive positions, and given the arm band.

Since Ferguson left, no player is been able to do what Young did for us when he played number 11 position (left wing) under Gaal. He was the reason we beat Liverpool, Tottenham, City, etc silly that season. But for injury to Rojo, he was drafted to left back where Shaw, Blind were under performing. Shaw had to be allowed to play now because he is young with many years ahead of him. And he is hyped by the media. Mourinho using him to win the media.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:09pm On Nov 03, 2018
We are obviously watching a different Shaw, he cbines better with his LWF...
You are always looking out for the negatives but won't acknowledge whenever he does well. His combination play with Martial is much better than Young, Martial is scoring you know...When he wasn't scoring you heaped the blame on Shaw but now he's on fire, you have dropped that line.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:09pm On Nov 03, 2018
eph12:
Fact: Young has not assisted Martial this season
From whose cross did Martial score against Chelsea?

Opta wont record that, but EPL stat should.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:11pm On Nov 03, 2018
patrickmuf:
We are obviously watching a different Shaw, he cbines better with his LWF...
You are always looking out for the negatives but won't acknowledge whenever he does well. His combination play with Martial is much better than Young, Martial is scoring you know...When he wasn't scoring you heaped the blame on Shaw but now he's on fire, you have dropped that line.
You wont understand. Time will tell.


Against Chelsea, Martial worked more with other players than Shaw.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:21pm On Nov 03, 2018
elampiro:
The defenders should be ashamed that wingers are better in their defensive positions, and given the arm band.

Since Ferguson left, no player is been able to do what Young did for us when he played number 11 position (left wing) under Gaal. He was the reason we beat Liverpool, Tottenham, City, etc silly that season. But for injury to Rojo, he was drafted to left back where Shaw, Blind were under performing. Shaw had to be allowed to play now because he is young with many years ahead of him. And he is hyped by the media. Mourinho using him to win the media.
What has arm band got to do? Maybe Kane should be ashamed Lloris is the captain.
Young like Valencia were utterly useless as forwards hence their somewhat demotion to fullbacks.
And for your info, Young only found a place in the team when Shaw was out injured, now Shaw is back to full fitness and has displaced him just as Dalot will get back and displace the jack of all positions but master of none...Black John Oshea
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:24pm On Nov 03, 2018
elampiro:
You wont understand. Time will tell.


Against Chelsea, Martial worked more with other players than Shaw.
If he didn't do well, you would've forgotten others only to heap the blame on Shaw...Continue, you hear?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:38pm On Nov 03, 2018
patrickmuf:
What has arm band got to do? Maybe Kane should be ashamed Lloris is the captain.
Young like Valencia were utterly useless as forwards hence their somewhat demotion to fullbacks.
And for your info, Young only found a place in the team when Shaw was out injured, now Shaw is back to full fitness and has displaced him just as Dalot will get back and displace the jack of all positions but master of none...Black John Oshea
Shaw sat on the bench second half of last season watching Young.

Young sent everyone to the bench and even pocketed Salah, the only defender to do that the whole of Europe.

Shaw was relegated by Gaal, then Mourinho. Shaw was there, Young went to world cup. Young injured and England recalled Shaw, then he made one run where the media tag him world class. grin So Mourinho couldn't go against the media
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:55pm On Nov 03, 2018
elampiro:
You cannot argue facts. I produced the stats at the time.
Lukaku had players on him all the time and had to drift to RW to get the ball or try to influence the game. Lingard had the luxury of roaming everywhere, finding spaces between midfield and defense. He can't even create chances for anybody
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:59pm On Nov 03, 2018
elampiro:
From whose cross did Martial score against Chelsea?

Opta wont record that, but EPL stat should.
Did EPL award the assist to Young?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:01pm On Nov 03, 2018
elampiro:
Like you people thought I was wrong on Lukaku abi?

They also thought I wrong on Darmian because I wanted Valencia to play. It took us half a season for the majority to agree with me.

I say what I know is the truth. I see deep when I watch football. You guys will one day understand this lack of flair in passing of Shaw. Just watch him when he has the ball in the half line and Martial is marked. He is very predictable to square it side ways or back, and even done sluggishly even when a forward is calling for the ball in the middle of the final 3rd.
Truly, you don't know ball
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pharod(m): 10:10pm On Nov 03, 2018
eph12:
Do you know Shaw has same number of assists with Young this season? Do you know that Shaw has scored a goal and Young hasn't? I don't understand what you mean by second assist o
The Assister of the Assist Man

grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 10:18pm On Nov 03, 2018
elampiro:
The rebound from which Martial scored from the other time would not be counted as an Assist. The pass Young gave to Sanchez today from which Martial scored, would not be counted as an Assist. That is a Second Assist.

Even Martial's second against Chelsea was a move started by Young with a clever flip to Mata. These are the kind of quick passes on that Shaw will not have the expertise to give the precise pass.

Today, I went to the field where I play football with some young guys in a club. I heard two of them saying only 3 players in Manchester United - Pogba, Young and Martial.
I stand With you bro, forget these guys YOU KNOW BALL!!!!

grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:24pm On Nov 03, 2018
elampiro:
The rebound from which Martial scored from the other time would not be counted as an Assist. The pass Young gave to Sanchez today from which Martial scored, would not be counted as an Assist. That is a Second Assist.

Even Martial's second against Chelsea was a move started by Young with a clever flip to Mata. These are the kind of quick passes on that Shaw will not have the expertise to give the precise pass.

Today, I went to the field where I play football with some young guys in a club. I heard two of them saying only 3 players in Manchester United - Pogba, Young and Martial.
They didn't mention De Gea? Buahahaha grin Change your crowd
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:45pm On Nov 03, 2018
Unlimited22:
Wait, you're experiencing the same thing?
Where you dey? cheesy
Everywhere Bro grin..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:09pm On Nov 03, 2018
Abeg nau, mek una change topic
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 12:40am On Nov 04, 2018
Elamps has a point about Shaw but the way he express his opinion in prideful manner no go allow una gree. Shaw is a very vertical fullback, good at running in straight line but doesn't know how to play inside when line is blocked.

UNA NO KNOW BALL!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:01am On Nov 04, 2018
eph12:
They didn't mention De Gea? Buahahaha grin Change your crowd
DeGea na player abi na goalkeeper?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
Sanchez and Pogba are leading in through balls in the team, followed by Fred & Mata. Yet people said Fred is not creative.

Hazard, William, Mane, Kevin De Bruyne, Fred, Mata have same number of through balls in the league.

UNA NO KNOW BALL
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:58am On Nov 04, 2018
Through balls in EPL from 2008/2009 where recording began.

I left out Carzola, Arshavin and Stephen Ireland in 17,18,19

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:01am On Nov 04, 2018
ASSIST IN EPL HISTORY.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:15am On Nov 04, 2018
If na to play safe passes front, side and backwards (Martial take give me back take again), we can put Shaw ahead of Young in attacking threat.

But when it comes to daring forward, taking risk pushing attack, venturing passes, trying to take on a marker, it is Young. He is far better pushing attack.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:27am On Nov 04, 2018
elampiro:
Sanchez and Pogba are leading in through balls in the team, followed by Fred & Mata. Yet people said Fred is not creative.

Hazard, William, Mane, Kevin De Bruyne, Fred, Mata have same number of through balls in the league.

UNA NO KNOW BALL
How many minutes has De bruyne played this season
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 5:08am On Nov 04, 2018
Ibime:
Elamps has a point about Shaw but the way he express his opinion in prideful manner no go allow una gree. Shaw is a very vertical fullback, good at running in straight line but doesn't know how to play inside when line is blocked.

UNA NO KNOW BALL!
The main issue I have with him is witch-hunting Shaw and blaming him for Sanchez’ struggles but Martial has come in there now and is not struggling like Sanchez.

Young is better going forward than Shaw but for the balance of the team I will prefer Young on he right and Shaw on the left.

Shaw does not have the acceleration he had before his injury. And Young as a former winger would usually have the advantage in attacking areas anyways.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:05am On Nov 04, 2018
Elampiro will be angry o

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:07am On Nov 04, 2018
elampiro:
DeGea na player abi na goalkeeper?
Who has been our best player for the last 3 years?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:09am On Nov 04, 2018
Ibime:
Elamps has a point about Shaw but the way he express his opinion in prideful manner no go allow una gree. Shaw is a very vertical fullback, good at running in straight line but doesn't know how to play inside when line is blocked.

UNA NO KNOW BALL!
Young does not play inside, instead he tries to force vertically and cross. But cross to who?

Shaw has played balls inside this season. He has a goal and could have gotten another one today with his forceful run into the box
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:56am On Nov 04, 2018
elampiro:
I know every side I stay on, it is likely the general group quickly move to the opposite. grin

Usually, when I return after I had taken a new position on a player that is not settled yet, I meet people lining up and leaning against that position. I think may be they do it for the fun of it.

If I say Pereira is a write off, it is most likely when I return next, people would be lining up to say Pereira is what we need. And before you know it, the whole house will be praising Pereira. Even those who never had an opinion will begin to join the majority.

The tendency for the majority of fans here to agree to majority opinion and make it a consensus opinion of the thread is the reason Chelsea thread has over taken this one in traffic. Originality is killed here.
Scummies think alike.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 7:18am On Nov 04, 2018
This one own is just to be shouting scummies

He doesn't even the meaning
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 7:31am On Nov 04, 2018
neezar:
This one own is just to be shouting scummies

He doesn't even the meaning
It is you guys that give it attention that are to blame.

It finds fulfillment in being nothing but a nuisance and being involved in nothing constructive.
But that is its prerogative and if being nothing but a f.o.o.l online (and offline I am certain) makes it happy so be it.
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