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alBHAGDADI:
All those who believe that they will be raptured away from witnessing the tribulation have all been fooled. Christians will all be here to witness it and get tested. Just as Noah was protected through the flood, Christians will be protected during the tribulation.

If you are still believing in a pre-tribulation or mid-tribulation rapture, then it's people like you who will reject Jesus when you get to find out that you are now living in the time of the unveiling of the Antichrist. You will angrily reject Jesus because all what false pastor taught you have now been proven to be false, hence you will think the dies of Jesus is false as well.

Study to show thyself approved.

izzou:
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

Kindly explain this part of the scripture

MrJunior017:
Someone should just like my comment for once naw abeg

providence338:
Greetings brethren.
I hail you all in the name of Yahuah Elohim, the Most High God of Israel and His only begotten Son, Yahshua Hamashiach, Jesus the Christ.

I closely follow another thread regarding dreams, but found myself contributing mostly regarding the topic of the end times.
So I decided to start a new thread on the subject.
For months back in 2016, I was consistently having dreams of the end times. I occasionally still have dreams like that now.
I saw scenes similar to World War II. I saw the spirit of Hitler, the 3rd reich. I saw tanks, helicopters, armies, soldiers, etc.

I live in the state of California, USA. I see firsthand the formation of the NWO in this country. What happens in America will replicate throughout the world. It won't be long before the principalities ruling over America will converge with the principalities in Nigeria and Africa at large. Africa is the last frontier for the NWO. For decades America has been installing puppet presidents on the continent. Buhari was placed into power by none other than the Obama administration (google David Axelrod). Buhari, like most African leaders, is serving the interest of western powers to rapidly destabilize Africa, so the powers of the NWO can "save" it. Trump is doing the same in America.

I can get quiet long-winded so I'll get to the point. The saints need to start spiritually preparing for a world-wide tribulation. There will be no pre-tribulation rapture as commonly taught in many of these churches. Just read Matt 24:29-31. The church has mostly been compromised, many have false prophets, teachers and occultists/free masons as their leaders. Any church that is a MEGA church, RUN. Any church that doesn't preach against homosexuality (which is big here in America), vanity, love of money, fornication, bribe, sexual sin, etc RUN. Any church that preaches only breakthrough, miracles, signs and wonders, healings, deliverance, prosperity, self-help, self-love, RUN. If they're not preaching to strive DAILY to renounce this world, and forsake our flesh to pursue God's holiness, sanctification, perfection, consecration and meditation, dedication to prayer in God's Word to purge our garments of filth so He can make it white, RUN.

Don't listen to anyone preaching pre-tribulation rapture, this is a false teaching to lull the church into a false sense of security before the antichrist is unveiled. The only thing that would save us from the tribulation is if our garments are found without spot, blemish or wrinkle. We don't HAVE to go through the tribulation if God has already made a way out (Luke 21:36). Read the whole chapter to get the proper context. Most so-called believers will endure the tribulation. If we're not in the process of making our garment white now, it'll be made white through fire and testing (tribulation). A remnant will make it into the wilderness and spared the hour of temptation that will befall the earth (Rev 3:10). There is another remnant that will be the warrior bride of Christ. These are the 144K, a literal (Rev 7) and symbolic body of SEALED believers (Eph 4:30) who are found the most worthy to preach the gospel, exhort and encourage the saints. They will be empowered with awesome miracles, signs and wonders to build the faith of the believers (and convert non-believers) during the tribulation.

What are your thoughts on the tribulation? Do you sense we are the generation that will witness the consummation of all things? What have you observed to make you believe so? Share your thoughts here

alBHAGDADI:
Does the passage say the event will happen before the tribulation, or you just assumed so?

1 Thessalonians 4:16

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

jiggaz:
@OP Matthew 24 was not written to the Church, it was written to the Jewish Remnants of Israel that will be around during the reign of the Antichrist. The Church is not in this picture. When Jesus was giving this sermon, there's nothing like the church because He has not yet died. The Church started after His death and Resurrection on the Pentecost. The Church will be raptured before the endtime tribulation. Read Revelation 3, the Church was already in heaven when God started sending judgement to the earth. The 144,000 evangelists that will preach the Gospel of the Kingdom all over the world during the tribulation are all Jewish no gentile is included oo. The Saints of the tribulation are the people that accepted Christ after the church were raptured. Those are the people that will endure through the 7 years of tribulation until Christ returns at the Glorious Appearing of the Second Coming. They will be saved but they will pay with their blood and the Antichrist will kill so many of them. The church is the bride of Christ and will be protected from Wrath.

Plz you people should divide the word of truth. Stop mixing the whole thing together and getting confused. The Church is basically for the Gentiles since the Jews rejected Him, although some Jews are now part of the church today cos they believe in Christ but most of the Jews today still reject Christ.

But if you still believe the Church will still go through the tribulation, help yourself. What i know is that me and my family and other saints in Christ will be Raptured before then. Read your Bible.

providence338:
Greetings brethren.
I hail you all in the name of Yahuah Elohim, the Most High God of Israel and His only begotten Son, Yahshua Hamashiach, Jesus the Christ.

I closely follow another thread regarding dreams, but found myself contributing mostly regarding the topic of the end times.
So I decided to start a new thread on the subject.
For months back in 2016, I was consistently having dreams of the end times. I occasionally still have dreams like that now.
I saw scenes similar to World War II. I saw the spirit of Hitler, the 3rd reich. I saw tanks, helicopters, armies, soldiers, etc.

I live in the state of California, USA. I see firsthand the formation of the NWO in this country. What happens in America will replicate throughout the world. It won't be long before the principalities ruling over America will converge with the principalities in Nigeria and Africa at large. Africa is the last frontier for the NWO. For decades America has been installing puppet presidents on the continent. Buhari was placed into power by none other than the Obama administration (google David Axelrod). Buhari, like most African leaders, is serving the interest of western powers to rapidly destabilize Africa, so the powers of the NWO can "save" it. Trump is doing the same in America.

I can get quiet long-winded so I'll get to the point. The saints need to start spiritually preparing for a world-wide tribulation. There will be no pre-tribulation rapture as commonly taught in many of these churches. Just read Matt 24:29-31. The church has mostly been compromised, many have false prophets, teachers and occultists/free masons as their leaders. Any church that is a MEGA church, RUN. Any church that doesn't preach against homosexuality (which is big here in America), vanity, love of money, fornication, bribe, sexual sin, etc RUN. Any church that preaches only breakthrough, miracles, signs and wonders, healings, deliverance, prosperity, self-help, self-love, RUN. If they're not preaching to strive DAILY to renounce this world, and forsake our flesh to pursue God's holiness, sanctification, perfection, consecration and meditation, dedication to prayer in God's Word to purge our garments of filth so He can make it white, RUN.

Don't listen to anyone preaching pre-tribulation rapture, this is a false teaching to lull the church into a false sense of security before the antichrist is unveiled. The only thing that would save us from the tribulation is if our garments are found without spot, blemish or wrinkle. We don't HAVE to go through the tribulation if God has already made a way out (Luke 21:36). Read the whole chapter to get the proper context. Most so-called believers will endure the tribulation. If we're not in the process of making our garment white now, it'll be made white through fire and testing (tribulation). A remnant will make it into the wilderness and spared the hour of temptation that will befall the earth (Rev 3:10). There is another remnant that will be the warrior bride of Christ. These are the 144K, a literal (Rev 7) and symbolic body of SEALED believers (Eph 4:30) who are found the most worthy to preach the gospel, exhort and encourage the saints. They will be empowered with awesome miracles, signs and wonders to build the faith of the believers (and convert non-believers) during the tribulation.

What are your thoughts on the tribulation? Do you sense we are the generation that will witness the consummation of all things? What have you observed to make you believe so? Share your thoughts here

providence338:
Greetings brethren.
I hail you all in the name of Yahuah Elohim, the Most High God of Israel and His only begotten Son, Yahshua Hamashiach, Jesus the Christ.

I closely follow another thread regarding dreams, but found myself contributing mostly regarding the topic of the end times.
So I decided to start a new thread on the subject.
For months back in 2016, I was consistently having dreams of the end times. I occasionally still have dreams like that now.
I saw scenes similar to World War II. I saw the spirit of Hitler, the 3rd reich. I saw tanks, helicopters, armies, soldiers, etc.

I live in the state of California, USA. I see firsthand the formation of the NWO in this country. What happens in America will replicate throughout the world. It won't be long before the principalities ruling over America will converge with the principalities in Nigeria and Africa at large. Africa is the last frontier for the NWO. For decades America has been installing puppet presidents on the continent. Buhari was placed into power by none other than the Obama administration (google David Axelrod). Buhari, like most African leaders, is serving the interest of western powers to rapidly destabilize Africa, so the powers of the NWO can "save" it. Trump is doing the same in America.

I can get quiet long-winded so I'll get to the point. The saints need to start spiritually preparing for a world-wide tribulation. There will be no pre-tribulation rapture as commonly taught in many of these churches. Just read Matt 24:29-31. The church has mostly been compromised, many have false prophets, teachers and occultists/free masons as their leaders. Any church that is a MEGA church, RUN. Any church that doesn't preach against homosexuality (which is big here in America), vanity, love of money, fornication, bribe, sexual sin, etc RUN. Any church that preaches only breakthrough, miracles, signs and wonders, healings, deliverance, prosperity, self-help, self-love, RUN. If they're not preaching to strive DAILY to renounce this world, and forsake our flesh to pursue God's holiness, sanctification, perfection, consecration and meditation, dedication to prayer in God's Word to purge our garments of filth so He can make it white, RUN.

Don't listen to anyone preaching pre-tribulation rapture, this is a false teaching to lull the church into a false sense of security before the antichrist is unveiled. The only thing that would save us from the tribulation is if our garments are found without spot, blemish or wrinkle. We don't HAVE to go through the tribulation if God has already made a way out (Luke 21:36). Read the whole chapter to get the proper context. Most so-called believers will endure the tribulation. If we're not in the process of making our garment white now, it'll be made white through fire and testing (tribulation). A remnant will make it into the wilderness and spared the hour of temptation that will befall the earth (Rev 3:10). There is another remnant that will be the warrior bride of Christ. These are the 144K, a literal (Rev 7) and symbolic body of SEALED believers (Eph 4:30) who are found the most worthy to preach the gospel, exhort and encourage the saints. They will be empowered with awesome miracles, signs and wonders to build the faith of the believers (and convert non-believers) during the tribulation.

What are your thoughts on the tribulation? Do you sense we are the generation that will witness the consummation of all things? What have you observed to make you believe so? Share your thoughts here

izzou:
God bless you sir

cc:alBHAGDADI

Sodiquinone:
what's a greater tribulation than calling Jesus human like u God,and calling Mary mother of God??

Sodiquinone:
what's a greater tribulation than calling Jesus human like u God,and calling Mary mother of God??

alBHAGDADI:
All those who believe that they will be raptured away from witnessing the tribulation have all been fooled. Christians will all be here to witness it and get tested. Just as Noah was protected through the flood, Christians will be protected during the tribulation.

If you are still believing in a pre-tribulation or mid-tribulation rapture, then it's people like you who will reject Jesus when you get to find out that you are now living in the time of the unveiling of the Antichrist. You will angrily reject Jesus because all what false pastor taught you have now been proven to be false, hence you will think the dies of Jesus is false as well.

Study to show thyself approved.

rupeelicious:
What if we ain't Christians?
I mean, if the Whiteman didn't come with his religion, how would we as traditionalists in the whole expanse of Africa relate to this rapture story?
Is heaven for Christians or for good people?
Many of us have accepted Christ as Lord and saviour but we don't live up to it. Does that acceptance make us better than the traditionalist who is upright but doesn't know Christ?

Trump is the one against homosexuality and all what not, for which they want him ousted. Why is he now the promulgator ofnthe NWO?

Deckline:
And he shall come as a thief in the night.
.
The day Jesus will come will be sudden and unexpected.
.
The umbelievers won't understand what has happened.
.
Christians who were left behind will and they will wail and mourn but it would be late then but not too late to make it still.
How
As long as you don't receive the mark of the beast.
Christians who are left behind will suffer much tribulation but he that shall endure till the end shall be saved.
.
The rapture is a very preponderant sermon which sadly has been ignored by most churches.
The truth is,no matter what you think,whether you believe its real or you are too skeptical about it or you just don't believe it,then THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.
Heaven and earth shall pass away,but God's word will never pass away.
.
Be prepared! Be ready! Be watchful!

izzou:


Just explain the verse, and you just started showing the world how false your post was

Okay, let me agree that it didn't say it will happen before the tribulation

1) What part says it will happen after the tribulation?

2) What's the essence of saving the dead, and then the living in Christ if they all will pass through the tribulation? This verse would have been pointless since all of them were going to pass through the tribulation anyway.

The rapture exists. And it's sole aim is to save the saved ones from the disastrous calamity that will engulf the world.

Not believing in a doctrine doesn't make it false.

Happy Sunday

providence338:
Greetings brethren.
I hail you all in the name of Yahuah Elohim, the Most High God of Israel and His only begotten Son, Yahshua Hamashiach, Jesus the Christ.

I closely follow another thread regarding dreams, but found myself contributing mostly regarding the topic of the end times.
So I decided to start a new thread on the subject.
For months back in 2016, I was consistently having dreams of the end times. I occasionally still have dreams like that now.
I saw scenes similar to World War II. I saw the spirit of Hitler, the 3rd reich. I saw tanks, helicopters, armies, soldiers, etc.

I live in the state of California, USA. I see firsthand the formation of the NWO in this country. What happens in America will replicate throughout the world. It won't be long before the principalities ruling over America will converge with the principalities in Nigeria and Africa at large. Africa is the last frontier for the NWO. For decades America has been installing puppet presidents on the continent. Buhari was placed into power by none other than the Obama administration (google David Axelrod). Buhari, like most African leaders, is serving the interest of western powers to rapidly destabilize Africa, so the powers of the NWO can "save" it. Trump is doing the same in America.

I can get quiet long-winded so I'll get to the point. The saints need to start spiritually preparing for a world-wide tribulation. There will be no pre-tribulation rapture as commonly taught in many of these churches. Just read Matt 24:29-31. The church has mostly been compromised, many have false prophets, teachers and occultists/free masons as their leaders. Any church that is a MEGA church, RUN. Any church that doesn't preach against homosexuality (which is big here in America), vanity, love of money, fornication, bribe, sexual sin, etc RUN. Any church that preaches only breakthrough, miracles, signs and wonders, healings, deliverance, prosperity, self-help, self-love, RUN. If they're not preaching to strive DAILY to renounce this world, and forsake our flesh to pursue God's holiness, sanctification, perfection, consecration and meditation, dedication to prayer in God's Word to purge our garments of filth so He can make it white, RUN.

Don't listen to anyone preaching pre-tribulation rapture, this is a false teaching to lull the church into a false sense of security before the antichrist is unveiled. The only thing that would save us from the tribulation is if our garments are found without spot, blemish or wrinkle. We don't HAVE to go through the tribulation if God has already made a way out (Luke 21:36). Read the whole chapter to get the proper context. Most so-called believers will endure the tribulation. If we're not in the process of making our garment white now, it'll be made white through fire and testing (tribulation). A remnant will make it into the wilderness and spared the hour of temptation that will befall the earth (Rev 3:10). There is another remnant that will be the warrior bride of Christ. These are the 144K, a literal (Rev 7) and symbolic body of SEALED believers (Eph 4:30) who are found the most worthy to preach the gospel, exhort and encourage the saints. They will be empowered with awesome miracles, signs and wonders to build the faith of the believers (and convert non-believers) during the tribulation.

What are your thoughts on the tribulation? Do you sense we are the generation that will witness the consummation of all things? What have you observed to make you believe so? Share your thoughts here

providence338:
Greetings brethren.
I hail you all in the name of Yahuah Elohim, the Most High God of Israel and His only begotten Son, Yahshua Hamashiach, Jesus the Christ.

I closely follow another thread regarding dreams, but found myself contributing mostly regarding the topic of the end times.
So I decided to start a new thread on the subject.
For months back in 2016, I was consistently having dreams of the end times. I occasionally still have dreams like that now.
I saw scenes similar to World War II. I saw the spirit of Hitler, the 3rd reich. I saw tanks, helicopters, armies, soldiers, etc.

I live in the state of California, USA. I see firsthand the formation of the NWO in this country. What happens in America will replicate throughout the world. It won't be long before the principalities ruling over America will converge with the principalities in Nigeria and Africa at large. Africa is the last frontier for the NWO. For decades America has been installing puppet presidents on the continent. Buhari was placed into power by none other than the Obama administration (google David Axelrod). Buhari, like most African leaders, is serving the interest of western powers to rapidly destabilize Africa, so the powers of the NWO can "save" it. Trump is doing the same in America.

I can get quiet long-winded so I'll get to the point. The saints need to start spiritually preparing for a world-wide tribulation. There will be no pre-tribulation rapture as commonly taught in many of these churches. Just read Matt 24:29-31. The church has mostly been compromised, many have false prophets, teachers and occultists/free masons as their leaders. Any church that is a MEGA church, RUN. Any church that doesn't preach against homosexuality (which is big here in America), vanity, love of money, fornication, bribe, sexual sin, etc RUN. Any church that preaches only breakthrough, miracles, signs and wonders, healings, deliverance, prosperity, self-help, self-love, RUN. If they're not preaching to strive DAILY to renounce this world, and forsake our flesh to pursue God's holiness, sanctification, perfection, consecration and meditation, dedication to prayer in God's Word to purge our garments of filth so He can make it white, RUN.

Don't listen to anyone preaching pre-tribulation rapture, this is a false teaching to lull the church into a false sense of security before the antichrist is unveiled. The only thing that would save us from the tribulation is if our garments are found without spot, blemish or wrinkle. We don't HAVE to go through the tribulation if God has already made a way out (Luke 21:36). Read the whole chapter to get the proper context. Most so-called believers will endure the tribulation. If we're not in the process of making our garment white now, it'll be made white through fire and testing (tribulation). A remnant will make it into the wilderness and spared the hour of temptation that will befall the earth (Rev 3:10). There is another remnant that will be the warrior bride of Christ. These are the 144K, a literal (Rev 7) and symbolic body of SEALED believers (Eph 4:30) who are found the most worthy to preach the gospel, exhort and encourage the saints. They will be empowered with awesome miracles, signs and wonders to build the faith of the believers (and convert non-believers) during the tribulation.

What are your thoughts on the tribulation? Do you sense we are the generation that will witness the consummation of all things? What have you observed to make you believe so? Share your thoughts here

rupeelicious:
What if we ain't Christians?
I mean, if the Whiteman didn't come with his religion, how would we as traditionalists in the whole expanse of Africa relate to this rapture story?
Is heaven for Christians or for good people?
Many of us have accepted Christ as Lord and saviour but we don't live up to it. Does that acceptance make us better than the traditionalist who is upright but doesn't know Christ?

Trump is the one against homosexuality and all what not, for which they want him ousted. Why is he now the promulgator ofnthe NWO?

jiggaz:
@OP Matthew 24 was not written to the Church, it was written to the Jewish Remnants of Israel that will be around during the reign of the Antichrist. The Church is not in this picture. When Jesus was giving this sermon, there's nothing like the church because He has not yet died. The Church started after His death and Resurrection on the Pentecost. The Church will be raptured before the endtime tribulation. Read Revelation 3, the Church was already in heaven when God started sending judgement to the earth. The 144,000 evangelists that will preach the Gospel of the Kingdom all over the world during the tribulation are all Jewish no gentile is included oo. The Saints of the tribulation are the people that accepted Christ after the church were raptured. Those are the people that will endure through the 7 years of tribulation until Christ returns at the Glorious Appearing of the Second Coming. They will be saved but they will pay with their blood and the Antichrist will kill so many of them. The church is the bride of Christ and will be protected from Wrath.

Plz you people should divide the word of truth. Stop mixing the whole thing together and getting confused. The Church is basically for the Gentiles since the Jews rejected Him, although some Jews are now part of the church today cos they believe in Christ but most of the Jews today still reject Christ.

But if you still believe the Church will still go through the tribulation, help yourself. What i know is that me and my family and other saints in Christ will be Raptured before then. Read your Bible.

NumbEmotions:
OP u're spreading heresy here. Where's the scriptural authority on which u make such claim? Just as Noah was in a safe haven before the flood so would all in whom the Holy spirit of God reside also be caught up to safety from God's wrath. Jeremiah 30:7 "
Alas! for that day is great, so that
none is like it: it is even the time of
Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved
out of it." The tribulation period is a time where God chastens Jacob(Isreal) for rejecting Her messiah it is not meant for the church hence it is called 'The Time of Jacob's Trouble.' ...I smell pride in the way u even presented ur argument relating scripture is based on Love and not on displaying empty intellect. HAPPY SUNDAY.

alBHAGDADI:
Sorry bro, Noah also faced the flood, but he was protected by the ark God told him to build. He wasn't taken out of this world. Christians will face the tribulation but will be protected by God just as in the days of Noah.

NumbEmotions:
Noah's case is merely a shadow of the rapture.
Lets take a look at how God has operated in the past.
Before sending the flood which He had warned of He brought Noah to safety.
Before destroying sodom and Gomorrah He took Lot Out
and also before in this present time before the great tribulation the church would be caught up. So
Nope. Christians will not face the tribulation they will be raptured BEFORE the tribulation. Also note that Christians have no business down here during the tribulation it's meant for the nation of Isreal.