Good day house please most Honda cars is guilty of this and I have the intention to buy eod 2004 by next year please advice me what to do that would make the car not fall victim of ball joint issue on the road

The thing taya me oh. If u are the careless type, just stay away and look for something else. Leave the Hondas for us, at least we get them for way cheaper than the corresponding Toyota, better performance, better interior.

greenhulk:
The thing taya me oh. If u are the careless type, just stay away and look for something else. Leave the Hondas for us, at least we get them for way cheaper than the corresponding Toyota, better performance, better interior.

I want to use it also that why

but does the problem really exists ? because there is no way you can avoid naija bad roads .

greenhulk:
The thing taya me oh. If u are the careless type, just stay away and look for something else. Leave the Hondas for us, at least we get them for way cheaper than the corresponding Toyota, better performance, better interior.

onatisi:
but does the problem really exists ? because there is no way you can avoid naija bad roads .

4 out of 5 cars with pulled wheels on the road is a Honda, so yes the problem exists. Most of the times its due to negligence because it doesn't pull without signs. The wheel suspension sound that might be normal for other cars like Toyota might not be normal for a Honda. I have driven friends Camrys with lots of weird noise coming from the wheels, if that was my Honda I wouldn't feel comfortable but this guy has been driving the car like that for the past 6 months. So if u are the careless type just avoid Honda especially EOD.

greenhulk:


4 out of 5 cars with pulled wheels on the road is a Honda, so yes the problem exists. Most of the times its due to negligence because it doesn't pull without signs. The wheel suspension sound that might be normal for other cars like Toyota might not be normal for a Honda. I have driven friends Camrys with lots of weird noise coming from the wheels, if that was my Honda I wouldn't feel comfortable but this guy has been driving the car like that for the past 6 months. So if u are the careless type just avoid Honda especially EOD.

it means honda cars needs good regular maintenance and are not rugged like other brands , and surprisingly Nigerians are not used to having good maintenance culture , we believe we can use something till it breaks down

onatisi:

it means honda cars needs good regular maintenance and are not rugged like other brands , and surprisingly Nigerians are not used to having good maintenance culture , we believe we can use something till it breaks down

fallacy of generalisation. Be warned

nurey:


fallacy of generalisation. Be warned

Not entirely a fallacy. Whenever u see a car pull on the road the odds are it's a Honda most especially the accords from the 90's to mid 2000's and some crv too. When I was using EOD I use to be extra careful and had it's wheels checked whenever I hear any unusual sound, never pulled on me. Then switched to pilot, that one is one rugged car, leg never pulled for once, it was designed to be rugged. But my Acura TL pulled on me recently. Though it was my negligence. I started hearing the sound on Monday but I was too busy and made up my mind to have it checked on Sunday. Unfortunately on Saturday the thing pulled right in front of my street after driving it about 200km that same day. As I was just coming back to retire for the day, just a few meters from my gate it pulled.

greenhulk:


Not entirely a fallacy. Whenever u see a car pull on the road the odds are it's a Honda most especially the accords from the 90's to mid 2000's and some crv too. When I was using EOD I use to be extra careful and had it's wheels checked whenever I hear any unusual sound, never pulled on me. Then switched to pilot, that one is one rugged car, leg never pulled for once, it was designed to be rugged. But my Acura TL pulled on me recently. Though it was my negligence. I started hearing the sound on Monday but I was too busy and made up my mind to have it checked on Sunday. Unfortunately on Saturday the thing pulled right in front of my street after driving it about 200km that same day. As I was just coming back to retire for the day, just a few meters from my gate it pulled.

The car likes you it didn't pull on the road

greenhulk:


Not entirely a fallacy. Whenever u see a car pull on the road the odds are it's a Honda most especially the accords from the 90's to mid 2000's and some crv too. When I was using EOD I use to be extra careful and had it's wheels checked whenever I hear any unusual sound, never pulled on me. Then switched to pilot, that one is one rugged car, leg never pulled for once, it was designed to be rugged. But my Acura TL pulled on me recently. Though it was my negligence. I started hearing the sound on Monday but I was too busy and made up my mind to have it checked on Sunday. Unfortunately on Saturday the thing pulled right in front of my street after driving it about 200km that same day. As I was just coming back to retire for the day, just a few meters from my gate it pulled.

Its a fallacy he said all Nigerians don't maintain their cars well. He should have said most, some etc. Not Nigerians in general.

businessman7:
Good day house please most Honda cars is guilty of this and I have the intention to buy eod 2004 by next year please advice me what to do that would make the car not fall victim of ball joint issue on the road

if it’s only the hand shake and leg pull you’re worried about then buy the car

Just don’t forget to budget roughly 15k every 18months to replace your joints with proper tokumbo ones

buy one new one and keep in your boot as an emergency spare

that’s how you manage the issue with that car

lilkech:



if it’s only the hand shake and leg pull you’re worried about then buy the car

Just don’t forget to budget roughly 15k every 18months to replace your joints with proper tokumbo ones

buy one new one and keep in your boot as an emergency spare

that’s how you manage the issue with that car

thanks bro this will help the car has a cool interior

lilkech:



if it’s only the hand shake and leg pull you’re worried about then buy the car

Just don’t forget to budget roughly 15k every 18months to replace your joints with proper tokumbo ones

buy one new one and keep in your boot as an emergency spare

that’s how you manage the issue with that car

this is still manageable

but the road in my area is damm too bad , i doubt if i wont need to be changing the ball joints every 3 months ,but if it is just the leg issue then the brand is cool. every brand is good and it all depends on how one maintains his or her car

they said the original ones don't break....

so if u are going to buy, buy the original.... not tokunbo but new..... (ball joints, I mean)

some have been using without the issue but I'm sure they know how they use it in bad terrain regularly....

I have a bad experience with Honda and leg... and greenhulk is right..... out of everything 5cars on the road with leg pull.... 4 of them are accords....

I used a prelude bought from a top ranking govt official in kogi state in pristine condition .... seldom drove the car because it was a coupe.... major reason it was sold anyway.
I drove that car to and fro steadily ... from iyah gbede in kogi to maitama and kubwa for 1yr without any noise talk more of issue .... took the same ride less than 2months in Ihiagwa to get it's first leg pull with the direct follow come ball joint..... direct from factory!

the road was practically unmotorable but I couldn't help it na.... Toyotas were passing na ... nissans were failing!

but the frequency here in Lagos is much more reduced than in the south east!

bottom line if u love the ride and u feel u can maintain it.... go ahead and be very religious about maintenances else.... the interior and torque thoooooo... waoh

onatisi:
but the road in my area is damm too bad , i doubt if i wont need to be changing the ball joints every 3 months ,but if it is just the leg issue then the brand is cool. every brand is good and it all depends on how one maintains his or her car

some people have been using theirs on bad road without issues so go ahead let's see how long it takes before its first noise..... if it will even have

Don’t piss me off.

obekediamondfuto:
they said the original ones don't break....

so if u are going to buy, buy the original.... not tokunbo but new..... (ball joints, I mean)

some have been using without the issue but I'm sure they know how they use it in bad terrain regularly....

I have a bad experience with Honda and leg... and greenhulk is right..... out of everything 5cars on the road with leg pull.... 4 of them are accords....

I used a prelude bought from a top ranking govt official in kogi state in pristine condition .... seldom drove the car because it was a coupe.... major reason it was sold anyway.
I drove that car to and fro steadily ... from iyah gbede in kogi to maitama and kubwa for 1yr without any noise talk more of issue .... took the same ride less than 2months in Ihiagwa to get it's first leg pull with the direct follow come ball joint..... direct from factory!

the road was practically unmotorable but I couldn't help it na.... Toyotas were passing na ... nissans were failing!

but the frequency here in Lagos is much more reduced than in the south east!

bottom line if u love the ride and u feel u can maintain it.... go ahead and be very religious about maintenances else.... the interior and torque thoooooo... waoh

If I was driving in Abuja I won’t break a sweat. The roads are okay there.


The first ever leg pull I experienced was in front of Agu’s Compound in Ihiagwa. I had just changed the bearings and was returning home when it happened.

and it wasn’t because the joint was bad oh, but because trustee Kazeem refused to tighten the bolt well. I went there, bent down and saw that the bolt was missing and the joint came unhinged

I called him and he came with another bolt to fix for me with many excuses (instead of apologies) blaming the road because he observed it happened at the in worst area on the worst stretch of federal government road in the whole of imo state.

The road is being managed better now than in those days sha, but it’s still arguably the most stupid road in owerri

businessman7:
thanks bro this will help the car has a cool interior

it’s a good car. The engine is bullet proof even with an extent of negligence

I’ve used mine for 7 years now and I’ve changed the engine and gearbox once within a space of 3 years of each failing.

Back then I was a novice so Abro dealt with the gearbox and xhp suffocated my engine till air conditioning packed up then it started smoking and I was finally forced to change the engine because of too much yabbing from my guys. The engine still ran well till I changed it so much so that I used it to travel steadily.

I’ve only changed my front and back shocks once and I stay in a terrible road plagued area. Honda has fewer fake parts in the market. For other maintenance I’ve changed few sensors and done window and ac work a few times over the years.

For Honda just Get original parts and smile till your next service date.

Sorry to be a derailer, but I'm beginning to think this "leg pulling" thing is somehow limited to Nigeria. I live in Ghana and we have our share of leg pullings - however the VAST majority here seem to be in early 2000s VWs, as well as late 90s- early 2000 Toyota Tacoma/ 4 runners.

I have only witnessed it on a Honda once. Once! Strange, isn't it?

greenhulk:


Not entirely a fallacy. Whenever u see a car pull on the road the odds are it's a Honda most especially the accords from the 90's to mid 2000's and some crv too. When I was using EOD I use to be extra careful and had it's wheels checked whenever I hear any unusual sound, never pulled on me. Then switched to pilot, that one is one rugged car, leg never pulled for once, it was designed to be rugged. But my Acura TL pulled on me recently. Though it was my negligence. I started hearing the sound on Monday but I was too busy and made up my mind to have it checked on Sunday. Unfortunately on Saturday the thing pulled right in front of my street after driving it about 200km that same day. As I was just coming back to retire for the day, just a few meters from my gate it pulled.

haaahaaa! a big mystery it never pulls in speed only when going slow it will pull,with my baby boy I use to have spanner,nuts and nails to effect emergency repairs,but my current Honda now,2003 acura 3.5rl is a no nonsense reliable car.

okoroemeka:
haaahaaa! a big mystery it never pulls in speed only when going slow it will pull,with my baby boy I use to have spanner,nuts and nails to effect emergency repairs,but my current Honda now,2003 acura 3.5rl is a no nonsense reliable car.

Yeah, it almost never pulls on high speed

billy187:
Sorry to be a derailer, but I'm beginning to think this "leg pulling" thing is somehow limited to Nigeria. I live in Ghana and we have our share of leg pullings - however the VAST majority here seem to be in early 2000s VWs, as well as late 90s- early 2000 Toyota Tacoma/ 4 runners.

I have only witnessed it on a Honda once. Once! Strange, isn't it?

God bless you for this comment.

billy187:
Sorry to be a derailer, but I'm beginning to think this "leg pulling" thing is somehow limited to Nigeria. I live in Ghana and we have our share of leg pullings - however the VAST majority here seem to be in early 2000s VWs, as well as late 90s- early 2000 Toyota Tacoma/ 4 runners.

I have only witnessed it on a Honda once. Once! Strange, isn't it?

You are on point. Maintenance culture which some Nigerians don't have is the reason for leg pulling on Honda cars here. Two things causes this leg pull that I know, Ball joint and C.V. Joint and the two will give you notice before pulling. Ball joint will make that funny sound for at least 5 days before pulling and shaft can take months.

If you are concerned about your safety and that of your car, 5 days is enough to do the needful.

OP, Honda is a sweet and reliable car if you have good maintenance culture.

lilkech:



if it’s only the hand shake and leg pull you’re worried about then buy the car

Just don’t forget to budget roughly 15k every 18months to replace your joints with proper tokumbo ones

buy one new one and keep in your boot as an emergency spare

that’s how you manage the issue with that car

Tokumbo ball joint for 15k? Toks Ball joint should not be more than 5k.

If that ball joint goes bad in 18months then its not tokumbo.

Rumplesteelskin:


You are on point. Maintenance culture which some Nigerians don't have is the reason for leg pulling on Honda cars here. Two things causes this leg pull that I know, Ball joint and C.V. Joint and the two will give you notice before pulling. Ball joint will make that funny sound for at least 5 days before pulling and shaft can take months.

If you are concerned about your safety and that of your car, 5 days is enough to do the needful.

OP, Honda is a sweet and reliable car if you have good maintenance culture.

CV joint cant cause leg pull. It stops the car from moving but the leg wont pull.

Leg pull is mostly caused by either the ball joint or inner tie rod ends.

adanny01:


Tokumbo ball joint for 15k? Toks Ball joint should not be more than 5k.

If that ball joint goes bad in 18months then its not tokumbo.

Tokunbo ball joints for Honda is around 10-15k a pair. Those guys at the market know it's worth especially if it's for Honda so they don't sell cheap. And I won't even stay up to 18 months before getting it checked. We see many tokunbo Honda with genuine ball joints pull within 2 months of driving in Nigeria.

billy187:
Sorry to be a derailer, but I'm beginning to think this "leg pulling" thing is somehow limited to Nigeria. I live in Ghana and we have our share of leg pullings - however the VAST majority here seem to be in early 2000s VWs, as well as late 90s- early 2000 Toyota Tacoma/ 4 runners.

I have only witnessed it on a Honda once. Once! Strange, isn't it?

My MY02 4Runner pulled

First ever in all my years of ownership on various brands.

adanny01:


Tokumbo ball joint for 15k? Toks Ball joint should not be more than 5k.

If that ball joint goes bad in 18months then its not tokumbo.

I understand what you mean concerning prices of the parts. That price was including workmanship.

I used a former tukumbo ball joint for that long before I started hearing a noise so I use that timeframe as my ‘comfortable’ tokumbo ball joint use duration.

Nobody else uses accord in my area except me. That’s how bad our roads are over here. My neighbors think I’m either very lucky or passionate to keep using the car even in floods. I change my bearings far more often than ball joints because of this.

greenhulk:


Tokunbo ball joints for Honda is around 10-15k a pair. Those guys at the market know it's worth especially if it's for Honda so they don't sell cheap. And I won't even stay up to 18 months before getting it checked. We see many tokunbo Honda with genuine ball joints pull within 2 months of driving in Nigeria.

Maybe its ur location.

EgunMogaji:


My MY02 4Runner pulled

First ever in all my years of ownership on various brands.

That generation 4 runner is notorious for leg pull.

greenhulk:


Tokunbo ball joints for Honda is around 10-15k a pair. Those guys at the market know it's worth especially if it's for Honda so they don't sell cheap. And I won't even stay up to 18 months before getting it checked. We see many tokunbo Honda with genuine ball joints pull within 2 months of driving in Nigeria.

Maybe its ur location.

Been using my car almost 4yrs now but never changed the ball joint. I do long trips, long commute and all.

Trust me if you get "genuine" ball joints, you wil forget ball joint.

These part dealers are wicked, apart from the appearance they go as far as putting chinko ball joints in cars for a month the sell them as tokumbo. Thats apart from "kitting".

Toks ball joint and toks shocks are the most difficult to buy if you no shine eye.

Kitting is a big thing up north, just dont do it with chinko. It will pull the next day with chinko but a genuine one will last long even with kitting. I have seen same ball joint kitted 3 times but never pulled.

The steel quality makes the difference.