Occult system is trickish, secretive and wicked. When you don't know how it is done, you fear it and stay away from being unequally yoked with it.

ccarefulwind2:
A topic "For matured minds only".

I have observed on many occasions, where people either avoid you, get scared of you, or in worst case scenarios, cuts all contacts that has to do with you, simply because you told them you are into occult practice.

But to be frank with you guys, my journey into occult realm for the past few years has been rewarding and has provided me with valuable insights about the world we live in and also about other worlds.

Yet, it amuses me when i see people frowning and turning their faces to the other side, when one declares his or herself an occult member.

Now my question goes thus : Why do the public get scared when you talk about been an occult member?

Accept Jesus today or Rot in hell. He is coming soon

efe35L:


Accept Jesus today or Rot in hell. He is coming soon

Are you now passing Judgement on me because of my practices?

Or is it not the same bible that we both have read, where it says in the book of

*Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned *

Hmmm... Hypocrites everywhere, i'm marveled!

Please don't be a religious fanatic

Nostradamus:
Occult=hidden

Even the medical terminologies is 'occult' in a way.
People(africans notably) fear what they don't know.am interested in this discuss sha.

On point sir. Permit me to also add that even understanding of the revelations, healing, miracles in general, etc, is "occult" in a way.

My friend, many people perish, due to fear and lack of understanding.

You welcome on board.

orunto27:
Occult system is trickish, secretive and wicked. When you don't know how it is done, you fear it and stay away from being unequally yoked with it.

Occult system is trickish (i agree, that is why you need adept to lead you) , secretive (i agree, because the knowledge is not meant for dogs and pigs) and wicked ( i disagree, knowledge is for the good of everyone, but when used, to harm your fellow man, you the user becomes wicked and evil. Just like a gun in the hands of a man, if he uses it for his own protection, then its ok by all, but if he uses it to harm an innocent fellow man, then he is considered wicked and evil, and these is highly frowned at, by the Supreme Being and by humans).

orunto27:
*When you don't know how it is done, you fear it and stay away from being unequally yoked with it*.

That is why everybody needs a teacher, to teach and show one how its done.

There is no way you will know how to bake bread, except a teacher teaches you how to bake bread. If you go ahead to bake it without proper training, you risk having a running stomach, which will be very bad for your health. That is how it is

ccarefulwind2:

In life, there is always the ups and down to it.
Everybody has a freewill to live the way he or she wants to live.

very correct. that's why i choose Christ.

ccarefulwind2:


I don't understand, benefits you will get from the discussion or from being an occultist?

Being an Occultist must have it's benefits right? Lets have them, then i will discuss.

ccarefulwind2:


What i said was, their is a big difference between Occult and *Cultism*.

So let's have the differences then.

Anas09:
very correct. that's why i choose Christ.

Anas09:

Being an Occultist must have it's benefits right? Lets have them, then i will discuss.

The Benefits are enormous. However, i will list some of them, for the benefit of those reading.

As an Occultist, you will have the benefit of knowing the deep knowledge of..

Astronomy

Mathematics

Botany

Literature

Anatomy

Music

Science

Numerology

Sigils

History

The different names of God

Angels

Dreams and its interpretations

Thought Transference

Thoughts on the nature of paintings

How to protect your mind, soul and body from evil interference

Symbols

Meditation

Visualization

The list goes on and on

Permit to say must of the top pastors, Rev. Fathers, Imams, etc are Occultist. How do you think they manage to give accurate advice to their followers from different works of life? Through the Occult (Hidden Knowledge not meant for certain people)

Anas09:

So let's have the differences then.

One of the members on these thread has already explained it, but let elaborate on it a little.

Occult: The occult (from the Latin word occultus
"hidden, secret" is "knowledge of the hidden" as opposed to facts of the measurable. It is knowledge meant only for certain people or knowledge which must be kept hidden. It is also the study of deeper spiritual reality that extends pure reasoning and the physical sciences.

While

Cultism: Cult (Latin word Cultus "inhabited, cultivated, worshipped) is usually referred to a social group, defined by its religious, spiritual or philosophical beliefs, on its common interest in a particular personality, object or goal. Groups said to cults, range in size, from local groups with few members to international groups with millions. This word (Cult) has been used as an attack against groups with different doctrines of practices.

Now you know the Big difference

ccarefulwind2:


The Benefits are enormous. However, i will list some of them, for the benefit of those reading.

As an Occultist, you will have the benefit of knowing the deep knowledge of..

Astronomy

Mathematics

Botany

Literature

Anatomy

Music

Science

Numerology

Sigils

History

The different names of God

Angels

Dreams and its interpretations

Thought Transference

Thoughts on the nature of paintings

How to protect your mind, soul and body from evil interference

Symbols

Meditation

Visualization

The list goes on and on

Permit to say must of the top pastors, Rev. Fathers, Imams, etc are Occultist. How do you think they manage to give accurate advice to their followers from different works of life? Through the Occult (Hidden Knowledge not meant for certain people)

What does it require to learn about the occult ways?

ccarefulwind2:


One of the members on these thread has already explained it, but let elaborate on it a little.

Occult: The occult (from the Latin word occultus
"hidden, secret" is "knowledge of the hidden" as opposed to facts of the measurable. It is knowledge meant only for certain people or knowledge which must be kept hidden. It is also the study of deeper spiritual reality that extends pure reasoning and the physical sciences.

While

Cultism: Cult (Latin word Cultus "inhabited, cultivated, worshipped) is usually referred to a social group, defined by its religious, spiritual or philosophical beliefs, on its common interest in a particular personality, object or goal. Groups said to cults, range in size, from local groups with few members to international groups with millions. This word (Cult) has been used as an attack against groups with different doctrines of practices.

Now you know the Big difference

Fair enough. However, it says that Occult has to do with Secret or hidden knowledge meant for a few people. Why then did you summoned me to discuss Occult knowledge knowing fully well that i am a Christian?

Everything about Christ is open.

Satan is known to hide in people, in objects and in ideas. he wants to remain hidden because anytime he is exposed, his adherence dumps him. He remains a mystery and powerful to his adherence as long as he remains hidden.

I know who Satan is. I know limit of his power. I know what he can and can not do. he seizes to be imposing to me long ago.

He is a coward, like a timid child, that why he hides. He hides in tricks. He creates fear in people and make them surrender their Will power and Choices to him, then he leads them away from the Divine Design, which is God.

He leads people away from light to hidden darkness to the fires of Hell. He knows those he can lie to, not me anymore.

Wonder why you hide to commit sin?

ccarefulwind2:


The Benefits are enormous. However, i will list some of them, for the benefit of those reading.

As an Occultist, you will have the benefit of knowing the deep knowledge of..

Astronomy

Mathematics

Botany

Literature

Anatomy

Music

Science

Numerology

Sigils

History

The different names of God

Angels

Dreams and its interpretations

Thought Transference

Thoughts on the nature of paintings

How to protect your mind, soul and body from evil interference

Symbols

Meditation

Visualization

The list goes on and on

Permit to say must of the top pastors, Rev. Fathers, Imams, etc are Occultist. How do you think they manage to give accurate advice to their followers from different works of life? Through the Occult (Hidden Knowledge not meant for certain people)

You mean all of these have their Sources is Occultism?

As far as you and i know, Occultism is satanic. Going by your assertion, you imply that Satan created the Universe?

See, the emojis you used? It's says, even you don't believe in your position.

Let me come and be going to Church before i'll be late.

CatchYu.

ccarefulwind2, very good. That is why everybody needs a teacher, to teach and show one how its done. The Long Spoon or Pole we need is Prayer to teach us what is hidden.

ccarefulwind2, please let us know what is Darkness.
It is God, The Supreme Spirit, that was at the Beginning. And He said, let there be Light. Light came out of Darkness and God was having the two, Darkness & Light, in His Hand. The Light He used to produce Adam & Eve and eventually Jesus & Mary, openly before our eyes.
In Darkness God keeps Satan and the Occult things to serve His Pleasures.
God is Spirit, Sacred and Secret. Light can always come back to Darkness but in Spirit, Sacred and Secret. And This is Prayer-The Long Spoon needed to touch The Occult.
Jesus prayed to make Mud to heal The Blind. That is using a Long Spoon to use The Occult.
In other words, "Prayer is The Key to touch The Occult".

ugnoble:


What does it require to learn about the occult ways?

The simplest, is to have an open mind to know and to learn, because what you will discover and learn, will check the very core foundation of your beliefs.

However, whenever you are ready, your teacher will appear.

Peace

Anas09:

Fair enough. However, it says that Occult has to do with Secret or hidden knowledge meant for a few people. Why then did you summoned me to discuss Occult knowledge knowing fully well that i am a Christian?

Everything about Christ is open.

Satan is known to hide in people, in objects and in ideas. he wants to remain hidden because anytime he is exposed, his adherence dumps him. He remains a mystery and powerful to his adherence as long as he remains hidden.

I know who Satan is. I know limit of his power. I know what he can and can not do. he seizes to be imposing to me long ago.

He is a coward, like a timid child, that why he hides. He hides in tricks. He creates fear in people and make them surrender their Will power and Choices to him, then he leads them away from the Divine Design, which is God.

He leads people away from light to hidden darkness to the fires of Hell. He knows those he can lie to, not me anymore.

Wonder why you hide to commit sin?

The occult is not a religion, humans created religion. So being a Christian does not stop you from studying the occult.

Everything about Christ is open (i agree), but not for everyone. Why do you think they have baby Christians? Because there are some knowledge that are only meant for them at that stage, until when proven to be a good and mature convert, then gradually, they will be introduced into the hidden knowledge (occult) of the Christendom.

So now knowing occult is satanic? Very funny. Do you want to tell me that people trying to know Christ more deeply, are getting themselves into satanic territories?

Anas09:


Wonder why you hide to commit sin?

Lol... Are you trying to tell me that before reading these post, you have not sinned against yourself and man? Have you not lied before to someone, for your own gain?

My friend, no body is perfect, we only work towards perfection.

Anas09:

You mean all of these have their Sources is Occultism?

As far as you and i know, Occultism is satanic. Going by your assertion, you imply that Satan created the Universe?

See, the emojis you used? It's says, even you don't believe in your position.

Let me come and be going to Church before i'll be late.

CatchYu.

To know more about life, you have to know the deep things that defines and move it. * creator of the universe? I'll prefer not to discuss about satan as an entity on these thread* . * My emoji? What is the essence of discussing a matter like these, without a symbol that incites humor, to encourage more imputs from contributors on the thread. My emoji is an expression (smile) on my face, on my own part.* * i hoped you prayed for all of us yesterday, while in church? *

orunto27:
ccarefulwind2, very good. That is why everybody needs a teacher, to teach and show one how its done. The Long Spoon or Pole we need is Prayer to teach us what is hidden.

on these, i agree

ccarefulwind2:


Lol... Are you trying to tell me that before reading these post, you have not sinned against yourself and man? Have you not lied before to someone, for your own gain?

My friend, no body is perfect, we only work towards perfection.

You didn't get my point. This is not directed at an individual. We are talking about hidden things done by the dark people in secret nah. So i asked if you have ever wondered why sinful you hide to commit sin. This is not directed at you personally.

No one is perfect, yes. But my point is, the activities that defile and make us imperfect are done in secret, hiding in the dark.

Satan is synonymous to Darkness. He is the King of the Kingdom of darkness. Occult is darkness.

orunto27:
ccarefulwind2, please let us know what is Darkness.
It is God, The Supreme Spirit, that was at the Beginning. And He said, let there be Light. Light came out of Darkness and God was having the two, Darkness & Light, in His Hand. The Light He used to produce Adam & Eve and eventually Jesus & Mary, openly before our eyes.
In Darkness God keeps Satan and the Occult things to serve His Pleasures.
God is Spirit, Sacred and Secret. Light can always come back to Darkness but in Spirit, Sacred and Secret. And This is Prayer-The Long Spoon needed to touch The Occult.
Jesus prayed to make Mud to heal The Blind. That is using a Long Spoon to use The Occult.
In other words, "Prayer is The Key to touch The Occult".

from my own experience, humility has to be added at one point, to help gain insights into enquries. So the combo of prayers and humility, has proven to be one of the great tools in the hands of seekers on that path. However, one has to be cautious about the things he or she finds along these path.

ccarefulwind2:


The simplest, is to have an open mind to know and to learn, because what you will discover and learn, will check the very core foundation of your beliefs.

However, whenever you are ready, your teacher will appear.

Peace

What if I said am ready now, would you teach me?

ccarefulwind2:

The occult is not a religion, humans created religion. So being a Christian does not stop you from studying the occult.

Being a Christan does not stop me from studying Occult!!!!

My question has been, 'For what purpose tho?'.

I asked you if you believed that satan created this world and everything in it. If that is the case, then the things you earlier mentioned as the benefits of studying occultism will be attributed to satan as his creations, but if not, why not come out clearly and tell the world what the occult really do?

God created the entire earth and everything in it, He created all the things you mention as usefulness for me. But to understand their usefulness i must leave the Creator and go to another creature and, pls teach me how to use these things.

E make sense?

ccarefulwind2:

Everything about Christ is open (i agree), but not for everyone. Why do you think they have baby Christians? Because there are some knowledge that are only meant for them at that stage, until when proven to be a good and mature convert, then gradually, they will be introduced into the hidden knowledge (occult) of the Christendom.

The Occult of the Christendom!!!!!. Hmmm interesting. I'm really interested in this. What is the Occult of Christendom pls. and pls do not talk about this outside of out Bible from where our is derived.

And, being young in Christ, as in, a new convert, hence being under study to know who you are in Christ, and your rights in the Covenant is not the same things as saying things are kept from you to be revealed later. If there are such kept secret knowledge, pls let's hear them.

ccarefulwind2:

So now knowing occult is satanic? Very funny. Do you want to tell me that people trying to know Christ more deeply, are getting themselves into satanic territories?

Does your bolded imply that Christ Occultism?

Have you ever heard that the Bible study is done in secret, hidden from light with only a select few?

I will really need to know how knowing more about Christ is Occultism, because if that's the case, then am on my way to being an Occult Guru, because my hunger to know about Christ is very deep.

Humility is a Spirit under Peace, a very Senior Spirit that Christ won for His Apostles.

ccarefulwind2:
on these, i agree

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Thanks. Our Power of Prayers will remove Buhari and Atiku giving ways to any of Osinbajo, Saraki and Sowore.

Anas09:

You didn't get my point. This is not directed at an individual. We are talking about hidden things done by the dark people in secret nah. So i asked if you have ever wondered why sinful you hide to commit sin. This is not directed at you personally.

No one is perfect, yes. But my point is, the activities that defile and make us imperfect are done in secret, hiding in the dark.

Satan is synonymous to Darkness. He is the King of the Kingdom of darkness. Occult is darkness.

On sorry, now i get your point.

But the concept of "sin" is trickery and broad, in the sense that what one considers sin in one part of the world, might not be seen as sin at the other part of the world. This is why the law "Love your neighbour as your self" is considered universal.

Good people also dish out acts of kindness in secret but conceals their identity from the public. So not all things done in secret are dark and evil.

Occult is darkness? So it is darkness, for someone seeking to know more about mathematics, geography, history, biology, etc?

I know you studied maths as one of your subjects in school, but do you know that the greatest minds that invented mathematics, that made sure it was been studied in schools, were Occultist?

Anas09:

You didn't get my point. This is not directed at an individual. We are talking about hidden things done by the dark people in secret nah. So i asked if you have ever wondered why sinful you hide to commit sin. This is not directed at you personally.

No one is perfect, yes. But my point is, the activities that defile and make us imperfect are done in secret, hiding in the dark.

Satan is synonymous to Darkness. He is the King of the Kingdom of darkness. Occult is darkness.

On sorry, now i get your point.

But the concept of "sin" is trickery and broad, in the sense that what one considers sin in one part of the world, might not be seen as sin at the other part of the world. This is why the law "Love your neighbour as your self" is considered universal.

Good people also dish out acts of kindness in secret but conceals their identity from the public. So not all things done in secret are dark and evil.

Occult is darkness? So it is darkness, for someone seeking to know more about mathematics, geography, history, biology, etc?

I know you studied maths as one of your subjects in school, but do you know that the greatest minds that invented mathematics, that made sure it was been studied in schools, were Occultist?

I will stop here for now

Anas09:

Being a Christan does not stop me from studying Occult!!!!

My question has been, 'For what purpose tho?'.

I asked you if you believed that satan created this world and everything in it. If that is the case, then the things you earlier mentioned as the benefits of studying occultism will be attributed to satan as his creations, but if not, why not come out clearly and tell the world what the occult really do?

God created the entire earth and everything in it, He created all the things you mention as usefulness for me. But to understand their usefulness i must leave the Creator and go to another creature and, pls teach me how to use these things.

E make sense?

The Occult of the Christendom!!!!!. Hmmm interesting. I'm really interested in this. What is the Occult of Christendom pls. and pls do not talk about this outside of out Bible from where our is derived.

And, being young in Christ, as in, a new convert, hence being under study to know who you are in Christ, and your rights in the Covenant is not the same things as saying things are kept from you to be revealed later. If there are such kept secret knowledge, pls let's hear them.


Does your bolded imply that Christ Occultism?

Have you ever heard that the Bible study is done in secret, hidden from light with only a select few?

I will really need to know how knowing more about Christ is Occultism, because if that's the case, then am on my way to being an Occult Guru, because my hunger to know about Christ is very deep.

* What is your purpose of studying the works of God?
* There is a Supreme Being who is the creator of all things, i didnt attribute that to satan *

* What the occult really does, when followed on the right path, is that it helps men reach illumination.

* I have had series of discussions with great pastors and imams (identities withheld), on why they don't reveal everything to their members, do you know what their response have always been? That they can't. Why? Because most of the people will misuse the teachings due to immaturity. So they prefer to reveal and explain more on the mysteries to certain members, who has showed maturity in the scriptures, that have been watched closely and studied under their own eyes.

* You have answered your question, dont forget the meaning of the word "Occult".

Make i work small.

orunto27:
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Thanks. Our Power of Prayers will remove Buhari and Atiku giving ways to any of Osinbajo, Saraki and Sowore.

i think the election will be atikulated.