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johnydon22:
That line is self explanatory.

johnydon22:
Nope. not necessarily. to be conscious more like it.

LordReed:
Then you should give us the opportunity to see what's great or otherwise about your position.

DeSepiero:
Yes! because a spermatozoa, zygote, embryo foetus can pass for 'being a member' of Homo sapien species right?

tintingz:
Ok.

johnydon22:
I did that through 4 pages of the thread already

LordReed:
No, you argued with people about their position. You need to give a statement of your position and its justification for us to see how sound it is.

johnydon22:
La voila

johnydon22:
Again, my counter arguments are an affirmation of the opposite stance not neutrality. It is quite very easy for anyone to figure out my stance, the premise of its argument by going through my arguments for over 4 pages of this thread.

LordReed:
Why are you afraid to make a statement of your own position? Arguing against other people's positions is not a statement. Unless you are willing for people to construct strawmen arguments for your position to which you can easily accuse them of so doing.

Martinez19:
If you want to know johnydon22's position, read the entire thread. I think it's cumbersome for him to keep on repeating himself.

Martinez19:
If you want to know johnydon22's position, read the entire thread. I think it's cumbersome for him to keep on repeating himself.

LordReed:
Why are you afraid to make a statement of your own position?

Arguing against other people's positions is not a statement.

Unless you are willing for people to construct strawmen arguments for your position to which you can easily accuse them of so doing.

LordReed:
It is because I read it that I know there is no statement. I am not asking him to repeat his arguments, I am asking for a statement of his position, these are clearly 2 different things. His arguments against others may show where his sentiments lie but they don't tell us what exactly they are. Why he doesn't want to make a statement feels like he doesn't want his position rigorously examined. If you can't bring your position to be tested then it to me reveals a prejudice, most likely one that shows you believe it has a serious flaw. Test your positions to destruction, that's how you create better ones.

tintingz:
He should present his position in a single file so that we can know his flaws, contradictions, not the one he pick up an argument from someone and ask questions like that of a fallacy.

Martinez19:
If you want to know johnydon22's position, read the entire thread. I think it's cumbersome for him to keep on repeating himself.

tintingz:
Lol, you didn't even see it.

johnydon22:
Then you wouldn't even see if it were staring you in the face. There is nothing I will say I haven't said already and honestly, if you were up to rigorously examining my position as you said, you would have done so already.

This is a nonsensical excuse

johnydon22:
I am not, this is your own assumption and honestly personal problem.

If you know half a thing about Johnydon22 it is that I'm very good at presenting my argument and defending them.

Whom do I have to fear? You?

Actually both are not mutually exclusive and i have actually presented contrary argument in demonstration of my position in form of rebuttals through out the thread.



What does this even mean?

LordReed:
I don't need you to fear me but since you are so good at stating and defending your position that why are you not following through?

LordReed:
And it is nonsensical to say give me time to state my position then later come back with the excuse that you don't need to. So were you lying before?

johnydon22:
Cus I have spent 4 pages of this thread affirming my position, given out underlying premise why I think so and refuting contrary argument.

If you have any objections, you would presented one already.

johnydon22:
Actually I intended to make out time to write a very long comprehensive article on my position which obviously would be a repetition of everything I have already said with a pinch of lessons on the nature of morality. but since it degenerated into what it became above, I won't anymore. Anyone who wants to know my position, read the thread.

If they can't see it then they probably won't see it if it was slapped across their face.

So, saying you need me to make out a post on my argument to present a rebuttal is grossly nonsensical. If you had any rebuttal, my arguments are scattered all over thisthread, you would have provided one already.

johnydon22:
Cus I have spent 4 pages of this thread affirming my position, given out underlying premise why I think so and refuting contrary argument.

If you have any objections, you would presented one already.

frank317:
Why all these back and forth... Its beginning to sound childish to me... If he said he did not see where u stated ur position and u claim u have, what stops u from restating it clearly. U have enough time to tell him u have presented ur argument, why don't u use that time to restate it, It actually will cost u nothing

LordReed:
What is grossly nonsensical is this cop out. No one is asking you for a long statement, the length will reveal itself as we prod but here you are providing yourself an escape hatch for something you said you would do, that's just disingenuous.

johnydon22:
You have no argument. When you do, I'll know

johnydon22:
I don't owe it to anyone to repeat myself. If they really wanted to drag me to start again, it was literally simple:

Ask me; do you think it is morally permissible?

And there it goes.

Brandishing idioti_c comments like "it's like you afraid" and masturbating over that inability to observe the obvious riddled over the thread is major reason why I am not compelled to oblige anyone with such entitlement issues.

LordReed:
@johnydon22

What is your position? Is abortion morally permissible? Justify your answer.

johnydon22:
I will eventually. But summary is; it is not morally permissible.

Give me time my boss.

johnydon22:
Lol. And repeat everything I spent the whole thread showing you.

Flaws you could not find for the last 4 pages of a thread. Genius!!!

Amazing!!!

LordReed:
LMFAO! See how did disingenous you are? Below is the request I made:



Then you turn around to say I should have asked. Ridiculous.

tintingz:
Showing what? You haven't present any references to your claims.

You just said a human need to be conscious to be term "alive". Lol.