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How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by henrixx(m): 8:17am On Nov 18, 2018
The topic of hell baffles me. Hell is said to be an eternal place for sinners. But i find it quite vague

For e.g someone dies at the age of 30, and the person died in sin and then goes to hell to spend an eternity


Dont we think the punishment is not proportionate to the offence?

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by okwabayi(m): 10:34am On Nov 18, 2018
I advice one should live life to the best of their ability and stop worrying about the afterlife.
I never existed for millions of years and found no problem with it. Why should I care if I disappear back to non-existence again?

For those who caused the pain and death of millions, they should get a specific sentence of years for the lives taken. After then they can go to Heaven or wherever people go after their sentence is finished.
I don’t see why my punishment for lying to get between a girl’s thighs should carry the same gravity as setting off a nuke in a city.

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by bedspread: 4:45pm On Nov 18, 2018
Wat we all should strive to do is to make heaven! Dts all
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by frank317: 5:12pm On Nov 18, 2018
bedspread:
Wat we all should strive to do is to make heaven! Dts all

Heaven is as useless as hell

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by bedspread: 5:25pm On Nov 18, 2018
frank317:


Heaven is as useless as hell
Ok!
To u it is given!!
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by priscy525(f): 6:30pm On Nov 18, 2018
The wages sin pays is death but the gift God gives is everlasting life.Hell fire simply does not exist.If staying forever in a fiery called hellfire is deemed as punishment,Then there is no difference between those living forever in paradise and those getting burnt forever.which is tantamount to the fact that it does not go in line with the punishment for sin found in the Bible which is death.
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by frank317: 6:38pm On Nov 18, 2018
bedspread:
Ok!
To u it is given!!
And to me I accept
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by sonmvayina(m): 6:41pm On Nov 18, 2018
What is the difference between heaven and hell?

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by CAPSLOCKED: 7:04pm On Nov 18, 2018
okwabayi:
I advice one should live life to the best of their ability and stop worrying about the afterlife.
I never existed for millions of years and found no problem with it. Why should I care if I disappear back to non-existence again?

For those who caused the pain and death of millions, they should get a specific sentence of years for the lives taken. After then they can go to Heaven or wherever people go after their sentence is finished.
I don’t see why my punishment for lying to get between a girl’s thighs should carry the same gravity as setting off a nuke in a city.

YOU'RE GOING TO HELL JUST FOR BEING BORN IN THE FIRST PLACE, UNLESS YOU'RE BAPTIZED BY THE CHRISTIANS. cheesy

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by okwabayi(m): 7:27pm On Nov 18, 2018
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YOU'RE GOING TO HELL JUST FOR BEING BORN IN THE FIRST PLACE, UNLESS YOU'RE BAPTIZED BY THE CHRISTIANS. cheesy
Imagine the bullshit_. That’s why I disregard any religious teachings. My baptism was my parents’ idea, not mine.

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by DeSepiero(m): 7:40pm On Nov 18, 2018
bedspread:
Wat we all should strive to do is to make heaven! Dts all

The original post is thought provoking but you choose to take the easy way out.

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by bedspread: 8:07pm On Nov 18, 2018
DeSepiero:


The original post is thought provoking but you choose to take the easy way out.
There is Nothing thought provoking about that!

JESUS CHRIST has paid the price ! If you accept and believe him u Make Heaven!

If u refuse HIM, you chose not to.. you chose Hell!
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by DeSepiero(m): 9:08pm On Nov 18, 2018
bedspread:

There is Nothing thought provoking about that!

JESUS CHRIST has paid the price ! If you accept and believe him u Make Heaven!

If u refuse HIM, you chose not to.. you chose Hell!

You realize that this response doesn't answer the question in the original post right?

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by LordReed(m): 9:33pm On Nov 18, 2018
Its one of the more illogical aspects of religious dogma. A man only lives for less than 150years but god will punish men for an eternity and god is the good god? Rubbish.

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by obinna58(m): 9:49pm On Nov 18, 2018
A loving God with the power to make the world a perfect place, however what he wanted was a perfect world and he desire to see no one suffer but that just couldn't happen rather he went and created eternal suffering in attempt to make a perfect world with threats even though he knows the outcome

Actually this didn't came direct from God it was from people and yet many believed

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by Lacazzi(m): 8:33am On Nov 25, 2018
Man stop trying hard to think of these things. God knows best

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by Deckline(m): 5:26pm On Nov 25, 2018
henrixx:
The topic of hell baffles me. Hell is said to be an eternal place for sinners. But i find it quite vague

For e.g someone dies at the age of 30, and the person died in sin and then goes to hell to spend an eternity


Dont we think the punishment is not proportionate to the offence?
Same goes for those who live for just 20years in righteousness and die then make heaven for eternity.
Btw- why do countries' judiciaries issue life imprisonments to erring offenders
.
Take for instance Richard Wright's Native Son.
Bigger Thomas was just twenty years when he was sentenced to death for a gruesome offense.
If he had been sentenced to be imprisoned for life,would it be unfair? No!

Same applies to Heaven and Hell.
.
If you sin for 28 years and repent on your deathbed,you will be forgiven and you will go to heaven forever. Strange but true.
It is also vice versa. If you were righteous for twenty eight years and you die in one sin,you will go to hell forever!

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by LordReed(m): 5:50pm On Nov 25, 2018
Deckline:

Same goes for those who live for just 20years in righteousness and die then make heaven for eternity.
Btw- why do countries' judiciaries issue life imprisonments to erring offenders
.
Take for instance Richard Wright's Native Son.
Bigger Thomas was just twenty years when he was sentenced to death for a gruesome offense.
If he had been sentenced to be imprisoned for life,would it be unfair? No!

Same applies to Heaven and Hell.
.
If you sin for 28 years and repent on your deathbed,you will be forgiven and you will go to heaven forever. Strange but true.
It is also vice versa. If you were righteous for twenty eight years and you die in one sin,you will go to hell forever!

So for you the punishment for lying and that for murder are the same? So if you go to court for traffic offense the judge is justified in giving you life imprisonment? Wow.

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by Deckline(m): 5:58pm On Nov 25, 2018
LordReed:


So for you the punishment for lying and that for murder are the same? So if you go to court for traffic offense the judge is justified in giving you life imprisonment? Wow.
I thought you were sageous enough to know that i just gave an instance.

Look,a 30year old sinner had all the years to know he has sinned. What is stopping him from repenting knowing fully well hell is eternal.
Please note- The reality of hell being real or fake is not in question here.

What i'm saying is, God repays mankind according to his works.
Sin is Sin!

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by LordReed(m): 6:27pm On Nov 25, 2018
Deckline:

I thought you were sageous enough to know that i just gave an instance.

Look,a 30year old sinner had all the years to know he has sinned. What is stopping him from repenting knowing fully well hell is eternal.
Please note- The reality of hell being real or fake is not in question here.

What i'm saying is, God repays mankind according to his works.
Sin is Sin!


How is it fair is the question? You hold your god fair for meting out the same punishment for a single lie as for murder? If it was an earthly judge will you call it fair?

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by henrixx(m): 6:51pm On Nov 25, 2018
LordReed:


So for you the punishment for lying and that for murder are the same? So if you go to court for traffic offense the judge is justified in giving you life imprisonment? Wow.
just what im saying. Theres really an imbalance

E.g someone who has been killing for many years repents on the last day and goes to heaven while someone who has been living in righteousness commits a sin on the last day and goes to hell. In my sane mind i think i should forgive the righteous one for that one off day but in christianity no its hell


So confusing
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by LordReed(m): 7:48pm On Nov 25, 2018
henrixx:
just what im saying. Theres really an imbalance

E.g someone who has been killing for many years repents on the last day and goes to heaven while someone who has been living in righteousness commits a sin on the last day and goes to hell. In my sane mind i think i should forgive the righteous one for that one off day but in christianity no its hell


So confusing

Its not confusing, its insane. Nobody should accept that that is any form of justice.

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Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by PhenomenalMorgan(m): 8:08pm On Nov 25, 2018
henrixx:
The topic of hell baffles me. Hell is said to be an eternal place for sinners. But i find it quite vague

For e.g someone dies at the age of 30, and the person died in sin and then goes to hell to spend an eternity


Dont we think the punishment is not proportionate to the offence?
The ideal punishment of God for sinners would be to totally seperate them from himself(any thing that is from God) because they choose to live a life void of God...
If a person is finally seperated from God then he is CUT OFF FROM EVERY VIRTUE OR GOODNESS that is from God. God is the source of peace,so in hell no one enjoys peace,he is d source of comfort hence no comfort in hell, he gives pleasure hence there is no pleasure in hell
So my point is Gods ultimate punishment for sinners is to SEPERATE THEM FROM HIM AND EVERY GOOD THING THAT COMES FROM HIM so hell is a place devoid of anything from or of God!!
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by PhenomenalMorgan(m): 8:22pm On Nov 25, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:


YOU'RE GOING TO HELL JUST FOR BEING BORN IN THE FIRST PLACE, UNLESS YOU'RE BAPTIZED BY THE CHRISTIANS. cheesy
Wrong doctrine, baptism cannot make a person go to heaven, and a person goes to hell because HE REFUSES TO ACCEPT GODS SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM OF HIS SINFUL NATURE(JESUS) and not just because he is born a sinner!!
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by PhenomenalMorgan(m): 8:26pm On Nov 25, 2018
LordReed:
Its one of the more illogical aspects of religious dogma. A man only lives for less than 150years but god will punish men for an eternity and god is the good god? Rubbish.
A man refuses to live a life seperate from God for his lifetime and God allow him to continue that way for eternity, everything about hell is all about a place where people exist without God and any Good virtue/gift that is from God!!
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by Anas09: 8:58pm On Nov 25, 2018
Deckline:

Same goes for those who live for just 20years in righteousness and die then make heaven for eternity.
Btw- why do countries' judiciaries issue life imprisonments to erring offenders
.
Take for instance Richard Wright's Native Son.
Bigger Thomas was just twenty years when he was sentenced to death for a gruesome offense.
If he had been sentenced to be imprisoned for life,would it be unfair? No!

Same applies to Heaven and Hell.
.
If you sin for 28 years and repent on your deathbed,you will be forgiven and you will go to heaven forever. Strange but true.
It is also vice versa. If you were righteous for twenty eight years and you die in one sin,you will go to hell forever!

@bolded, is completely untrue. You need to know the extend of God's Love for Man and what Knew Birth is before you understand what all these means. It is basically INTENTIONS, MOTIVES. WHY DID YOU DO WHAT YOU DID? DID YOU PLAN AND EXECUTED IT? OR WAS IT AN ACCIDENT?

I mean, now that you are Born Again. Let's take ANGER fore example. There was an incident. It happened so suddenly and you were rushed by the hold event. Someone accused you of theft, you didn't do it, and as you were trying to explain and defend yourself, your accusers slaps you hard on the face, calls you a lair and a thief. And you without warning gets so angry and slap him back, it results to a fight. You are considered a thief, get killed my a mob. Will God send you to Hellfire becos, you lost your temper and got angry?

It's exactly like the physical birth. When a Child is born, he can not enter back into its mother's womb, except of course it dies. When some one gets born again, a new life is given to him, and as a child, he learns everything from scratch. As parents won't throw their new born babies away when they poo, wee, and vomit on themselves, so God will not throw you away because of one sin you slipped and fell over. It is when you commit sin intentionally with a motive, you justify it and cover it, then becomes a sin. Peter did not premeditate his denial of Jesus, but Judas did.

Backsliding is a long process, it doesn't happen just over night or over one Sin.

And, note this, God is not wicked. There's a reason there's judgment. Judgment means, your case will be presented before the Judge. Like i mentioned earlier, factors will determine if you shd be allowed passage or not.
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by Nobody: 9:01pm On Nov 25, 2018
sonmvayina:
What is the difference between heaven and hell?

heaven is for those that obtain and maintain salvation then hell is for those that don't. Heaven is filled with GOD's Goodness then Hell is the opposite
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by Anas09: 9:13pm On Nov 25, 2018
LordReed:


So for you the punishment for lying and that for murder are the same? So if you go to court for traffic offense the judge is justified in giving you life imprisonment? Wow.
What sends you to Hellfire is not the lie you told, it's the nature of sin.

Lying is a Fruit, but there's a Tree which bore that fruit, it's called 'The Sinful nature'. This we all picked from Adam. If died with it, you'd die twice and get separated from God. The absence of Light is darkness. The Absence of Heat is cold, the absence of Heaven is Hellfire, the absence of God is satan. Choose.


We keep saying this to you people, it's either you choose not to hear or there's a mechanism inside of you guys which deletes this info. God sends no one to Hellfire, you choose to go by your own volition. You can't eat your cake and have it.

Right now, you have chosen to stand against Christ, the one who offers you the new life which you need to enter heaven, Instead of accepting it for free, you reject it but cry wolf.

Sir, when you die, na with your leg you go waka enter hellfire, as na with your mind you dey fight Christ now.
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by xproducer: 9:16pm On Nov 25, 2018
henrixx:
The topic of hell baffles me. Hell is said to be an eternal place for sinners. But i find it quite vague

For e.g someone dies at the age of 30, and the person died in sin and then goes to hell to spend an eternity


Dont we think the punishment is not proportionate to the offence?
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OP... typically we inherently think of hell as punishment that lasts forever, but by God's mercies I humbly believe that only the state of spiritual death is permanent/endures forever... and not the process of spiritually dying in hell.

The wages/result of sin is death (just as GOD mercifully warned Adam before the fall of man - Genesis 2:17).

There are two types of death; 1). Physical and the other 2). Spiritual

Since the fall, we all coming from Adam die in the flesh/physically - 1 Corinthians 15:22, and we are all born spiritually dead - Ephesians 2:1; except those whom God saves and gives spiritual life from the womb, like with the prophet Jeremiah (Jeremiah 1:4-), etc.

Then there is spiritual death/second death - "But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” -Revelation 21:8 (also see Rev 2:11, Rev 20:6, Rev 20:14).

Death is death and it is final, as there typically is no coming back from it... hence, it is forever. However, the process of dying can either be instant... or it can endure for a while. From the Bible, even though death in the lake of fire is final, it isn't fun by any means. "There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” - Matt 8:12, Matt 13:42, Luke 13:28. There will be torment - Luke 16:24, Revelation 14:10-11

In all this, let us remember that the LORD GOD is:
1. "Gracious and full of compassion, Slow to anger and great in mercy. The Lord is good to all, And His tender mercies are over all His works." - Psalm 145:8, and that
2. The LORD GOD says "I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,” says the Lord God. “Therefore turn and live!” - Ezekiel 18:32 (also see Ezekiel 33:11), and that
3. In order to save many, many people from the foundation of the world to this time, He; in the Person of the Lord JESUS CHRIST had to endure humiliation, etc, etc... all culminating in His physical and spiritual death in the place of those whom He came to save and justify so they/we would be spared - John 19:30, Psalm 16:10). How great a salvation!
4. While we are alive, today is still the day of salvation from wrath...
"Seek the Lord while He may be found, Call upon Him while He is near." - Isaiah 55:6.
"Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the Lord, And He will have mercy on
him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.
" - Isaiah 55:7
"that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be
saved.
" - Romans 10:9

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." - Romans 6:23

Peace and blessings!

++++++++

"He is the Rock, His work is perfect; For all His ways are justice, A God of truth and without injustice; Righteous and upright is He." - Deuteronomy 32:4
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by Anas09: 9:18pm On Nov 25, 2018
LordReed:


How is it fair is the question? You hold your god fair for meting out the same punishment for a single lie as for murder? If it was an earthly judge will you call it fair?
Before you begin to asking about the fairness of Eternal life in Hellfire, pls tell me. Is Hellfire created For man? Is your question coded to mean, 'How is it fair for satan to be cast into Hellfire eternally?'. What is your question truthfully?

Is your concern for man or satan?
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by Anas09: 9:21pm On Nov 25, 2018
henrixx:
just what im saying. Theres really an imbalance

E.g someone who has been killing for many years repents on the last day and goes to heaven while someone who has been living in righteousness commits a sin on the last day and goes to hell. In my sane mind i think i should forgive the righteous one for that one off day but in christianity no its hell


So confusing
No, this is not what the Bible says. If you insist then, pls lets consider some scriptures to that effect.

Bring it on.
Re: How Is Eternity In Hell A Fair Punishment For Sin? by MuttleyLaff: 9:21pm On Nov 25, 2018
If you cant argue against the imagined injustice yourself
If you have no one to advocate or represent you
If you have no one to fight your corner and position you find yourself in
If you have no one to litigate & successfully defend you.
Know that there is free legal aid to take advantage of on that day.

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