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Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by rapid101(m): 12:29pm On Dec 02, 2018
I didn't bother my self since na apc source

Atiku go kill pple wit hypertension b4 2019
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 12:30pm On Dec 02, 2018
awelekiti:
Wrong you said hun? Didbyoubever follow atiku visa case? Or you simply pretended not to...* He was refused under 221g the first time and later, he was issued visa after his case successfully undergone administrative processing. Now, you would have made a point if youvjad said visa isn't a guarantee for admissibility if he's unable to convince them at poe.

You continue to be wrong. I don’t need to follow the idiots visa process to understand basic US immigration policy. How much contact have you had with USEL, USCIS and Homeland Security?

Again, just because the state department grants you a visa at a foreign outpost, even after stringent checks, does not mean you’ll be paroled onto US soil.

Your Atiku alleged criminal could easily get a visa stamped on his passport in a ruse to get him onto US soil and then get hammered. He knows this and hence why he pointed his private plane from UK towards Nigeria and not towards Gander. And hurriedly I understand.

Please don’t try to coach me on US immigration laws and process.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/frequently-asked-questions/what-is-us-visa.html

“How Can I Use a Visa to Enter the United States?

Having a U.S. visa allows you to travel to a port of entry, airport or land border crossing, and request permission of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Customs and Border Protection (CBP) inspector to enter the United States. While having a visa does not guarantee entry to the United States, it does indicate a consular officer at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate abroad has determined you are eligible to seek entry for that specific purpose. DHS/CBP inspectors, guardians of the nation’s borders, are responsible for admission of travelers to the United States, for a specified status and period of time. DHS also has responsibility for immigration matters while you are present in the United States.“

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Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by chris51(f): 12:34pm On Dec 02, 2018
My dear Awelekiti. Obtaining a US visa is one thing, being allowed to enter from the point of entering is another matter. This is why people are deported if US border officer, known in Nigeria as (immigration officer) is not convinced about your intention.

Serious background check and interview is conducted at the point of entering.

Atiku should have been through with election and obtain presidential immunity if he wins, before thinking about US visit.

A sitting governor has been jailed in the US before. The judiciary is very independent, unlike in Nigeria that predidency has influence every where

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Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by chris51(f): 12:35pm On Dec 02, 2018
chris51:
My dear Awelekiti. Obtaining a US visa is one thing, being allowed to enter from the point of entering is another matter. This is why people are deported if US border officer, known in Nigeria as (immigration officer) is not convinced about your intention.

Serious background check and interview is conducted at the point of entering.

Atiku should have been through with election and obtain presidential immunity if he wins, before thinking about US visit.

A sitting governor has been jailed in the US before. The judiciary is very independent, unlike in Nigeria that predidency has influence every where
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Solatium(m): 12:47pm On Dec 02, 2018
awelekiti:
He doesn't need to be lured with visa into America before he's arrested if he has a grevious offence hanging on his neck. With the aid of Interpol and the government he could be arrested ok? A visa is a clearance to enter a country. Atiku was refused under 221g which means he needed to provide some info which the visa officer wasn't cleared about . Once he's satisfied, atiku was granted a visa. If you had said visa isn't a guarantee of admittance if the visa holder fails to convince the cbp at the poe, I would have agreed woth you. You need to learn ok?

I am cork sure you are ignorant of how things work, to start with People like Atiku having been a former VP of a recognize state like Nigeria does not NEED A VISA under normal circumstances, he should Benin possession of a diplomatic passport for life,on the flip side if he doesn't want to use the diplomatic route and want to travel as a private citizen,all he requires is just to make a contact to his required embassy,he will only walk in less than 24hrs and have his thumbprint taken where it is applicable and have his Visa issued under 3hrs.
I Know high networth Nigerians who are no where near diplomatic route but have the same US Visa (long term) issued to them in the same way I just explained to you.
stop twisting the fact,Atiku Has a case to Answer in the US and he can't afford to risk it
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 12:48pm On Dec 02, 2018
EgunMogaji:


You continue to be wrong. I don’t need to follow the idiots visa process to understand basic US immigration policy. How much contact have you had with USEL, USCIS and Homeland Security?

Again, just because the state department grants you a visa at a foreign outpost, even after stringent checks, does not mean you’ll be paroled onto US soil.

Your Atiku alleged criminal could easily get a visa stamped on his passport in a ruse to get him onto US soil and then get hammered. He knows this and hence why he pointed his private plane from UK towards Nigeria and not towards Gander. And hurriedly I understand.

Please don’t try to coach me on US immigration laws and process.

Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 12:49pm On Dec 02, 2018
Solatium:


I am cork sure you are ignorant of how things work, to start with People like Atiku having been a former VP of a recognize state like Nigeria does not NEED A VISA under normal circumstances, he should Benin possession of a diplomatic passport for life,on the flip side if he doesn't want to use the diplomatic route and want to travel as a private citizen,all he requires is just to make a contact to his required embassy,he will only walk in less than 24hrs and have his thumbprint taken where it is applicable and have his Visa issued under 3hrs.
I Know high networth Nigerians who are no where near diplomatic route but have the same US Visa (long term) issued to them in the same way I just explained to you.
stop twisting the fact,Atiku Has a case to Answer in the US and he can't afford to risk it

Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by efighter: 12:52pm On Dec 02, 2018
buhariguy:
but the jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pigs of Biafra terrorist were rejoicing that thief atiku will be going to US,

But I simply told them that thief atiku will not return


Atikuloot is our brother and fellow citizen. He is our ex-president. He is some people's father, husband. Why would you wish that he goes to US? You want him to get arrested and jailed? Even the UK that he sneeked to, he had to quickly sneek back to Nigeria before Interpol lay hands on him. Atikuloot please don't go to US, we do not want our ex-president to be jailed in US. That will spoil the county's image. We have enough of your Biafran supporters in US jails for drug trafficking already.

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Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Solatium(m): 12:52pm On Dec 02, 2018
[quote author=awelekiti post=73483480][/quote]


Of course a case has not been legally established (Court Process) is still an allegation,but he can debunk such an allegation at the court in US if he's so sure of himself and the easiest way is to land himself in US and have His doubt cleared.
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 12:52pm On Dec 02, 2018
[quote author=awelekiti post=73486498][/quote]

Keep fooling yourself.

Here in the US, law enforcement are legally allowed to lie.

Please stop.

In many cases here the police already has a prime suspect that they watching, following, tapping phones, etc but they’ll still hold a press conference to say that they don’t have any credible suspect and still following leads.

They do this to make the perpetrator feel safe so he can make a mistake.

I can see all this with this Atiku business. A USC has already been convicted, they are simply luring him in.

He should not go to the US because I don’t want my tax dollar used to feed him in jail. If he’s guilty but I believe that he’ll be arrested at the airport.
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Casemiro(m): 1:24pm On Dec 02, 2018
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Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 1:27pm On Dec 02, 2018
EgunMogaji:


Keep fooling yourself.

Here in the US, law enforcement are legally allowed to lie.

Please stop.

In many cases here the police already has a prime suspect that they watching, following, tapping phones, etc but they’ll still hold a press conference to say that they don’t have any credible suspect and still following leads.

They do this to make the perpetrator feel safe so he can make a mistake.

I can see all this with this Atiku business. A USC has already been convicted, they are simply luring him in.

He should not go to the US because I don’t want my tax dollar used to feed him in jail. If he’s guilty but I believe that he’ll be arrested at the airport.
ok. Your moniker has been marked. I'd come back to you once he goes and returns without facing what his enemies, including yourself wishes him. Buhari was much more condemned for his stance on boko haram and Islam. Suddenly , his life ban was waived and he could travel to the Chatham house and later USA prior to 2015 elections. Take a chill pill ok?
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 1:29pm On Dec 02, 2018
Solatium:



Of course a case has not been legally established (Court Process) is still an allegation,but he can debunk such an allegation at the court in US if he's so sure of himself and the easiest way is to land himself in US and have His doubt cleared.
don't worry, he'd do all that, same way buhari did before 2015 elections and Aisha his wife, afterwards and had all doubts cleared. Don't be in a hurry. Cheers
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 1:39pm On Dec 02, 2018
awelekiti:
ok. Your moniker has been marked. I'd come back to you once he goes and returns without facing what his enemies, including yourself wishes him. Buhari was much more condemned for his stance on boko haram and Islam. Suddenly , his life ban was waived and he could travel to the Chatham house and later USA prior to 2015 elections. Take a chill pill ok?

You’re taking this too personal, relax before you burst a blood vessel. Remember that you have a pathetic access to an even pathetic healthcare system.

I don’t hold my public servants like a lord or master. Neither you, Buhari or Atiku means shyte to me.

Buhari was allegedly banned because of I think human rights violations. Atiku is allegedly wanted to face criminal charges. I swear on my god that I will not explain the difference to you.

You’re wasting your time saving my userid but you can if that’s how you roll. I never said Atiku can not visit USA. In fact I want him to go there and face his alleged case. That it satisfy the US government and they give him a waiver.

Stay on one course, this one that you’re wandering all over the place like Alapandede.
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by bantudra: 1:46pm On Dec 02, 2018
Mexyz:
So Atiku's travelling to USA or not is what we should be discussing now and not what they will do in office if voted in as president?
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by 989900: 2:01pm On Dec 02, 2018
jmaine:


[s]Zombie! I don't need to get your useless drift when we know what this baseless thread is about .

You can only fool fellow idiots.[/s]
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by princeonx: 3:10pm On Dec 02, 2018
awelekiti:
Were you following the atiku visa issue at all? He applied for a visa and he was refused under 221g after which he was issued a visa ok? Fyi, American government doesn't need to lure him with a visa before arresting him, should he have a fraudulent or criminal case to answer. Fbi would do all that, with the help of the Interpol ok? Many yahop boys in Nigeria have been arrested hwre and bundled into usa thrpugh the afotrmentioned means ? I'd have accepted your submission of you had said visa issuance doesn't guarantee admissibility at the poe...
You can type all you want oga but like I said, issuing Atiku a US Visa does not clear him of any crime. He was issued a Visa because they found him eligible for that under whatever category he applied. The USA government are also never in a rush to arrest anybody unless they want/have to. I've lived here for 2 decades as well as work with/for them so I know. I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm simply saying is that if they want Atiku, they will inform him. It's easier to write Atiku, contact his lawyer, or contact Atiku than those Yahoo boys you mentioned.
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by adm212144: 3:27pm On Dec 02, 2018
princekalani:
Pathetic souls. He will still enter US in due time, then you guys will change the music as usual, maybe then we will start hearing things like "Atiku forged passport to get visa" "Atiku gave $10,000,000 to the US ambassador to get the visa" etc. Shameless people, you said the man cannot risk going to the US because he will be arrested, Now he applied for the same visa and the same apc started making noise that American government should deny him, should APC not be happy that he is about to go to jail? why are they in panic mode. Funny lots.

All these stories are fake .if the stories were to be true interpol would have arrest him while in Dubai infact in UK .these people are just fools just like their daura farmer .

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Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Aceed: 3:43pm On Dec 02, 2018
Uglymugg:


It's a pity you depend on other country? Hahahahaha look at a pdp supporters thought pattern. If you don't know, every country depends on each other, from trade to foreign diplomacy. A country like Nigeria cannot be isolated from thr world, we have and produce nothing.

We depend on each other, from trade to foreign diplomacy, thank God you said that but you should realize all those comes after you've established your country which includes independently electing your president, if it's not that then what is the meaning of being a sovereign state?
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by deji17: 3:43pm On Dec 02, 2018
People should stop wating time with lawless IPOB members on this issue. They want to be Atikulooted.
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Aceed: 3:51pm On Dec 02, 2018
7lives:



Look Nigerians are being frustrated in America at the moment, many of them are porting to Canada, so many Nigerians wishes Trump never get re elected, because he had issues with Africans especially Nigerians, coming to America and not returning home.
Now the QUESTION is if Nigerians are comfortable in Nigeria will they be ready to live in America?.
The reason why people are leaving is because they are HOPELESS in Nigeria.
Now, one of those who put Nigeria in that hopeless situation is this man that wants to be president, the RECORD of his money laundering case in America, is what any SANE mind will ask him to CLEAR.
He can ONLY clear this when he visits America the matter is a risky one even for Trump.
America is not Nigeria where people get away with crimes, the political HAWKS in America, the press, the Senate, the Congress and so on will make so much noise that, it may become an international embarrassment for even Trump himself.
The ONLY way out for Atiku is to be innocent of the charges or stay away from America.

Change starts with you. Stop lying, which includes your assertions that every president in america or the west have cleared slates

BE TRUTHFUL...Speak based on the truth...it's soothing

even trump and all past presidents have bigger issues to clear but that didn't disqualify them from being elected. Now if you are using that as a standard for atiku...he's passable at the very least, if not in colours
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by John20017(m): 3:53pm On Dec 02, 2018
Adesolomon2014:



Must you think like this?
I don't see any reason why you would be denied visa if you've got a cogent reason why you wanna visit the said country.
Remember, the said Atiku has been travelling to US before the said incident occurred, why do you think they denied him 13+ years after?



I'm sure you don't have a passport talk more of applying for a US Visa so you don't know how it works
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by akilo1: 4:00pm On Dec 02, 2018
awelekiti:
The liars are at it again. Once USA approves your visa, it means you've been cleared of any charges( if you were once indicted of one). Visa means, access or clearance . Atiku doesmt need any further clearance once the visa has been issued to him. Only some gullible minds would believe this fake news. The man is on his way to the uk now, if he's not there already, if what's said of him is true . No amount of apc lies would stop me from voting this man next year. Right-thinking Nigerians know we need him.
continue to dey deceive yourself ,make he enter na ..shebi he don get Visa
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by jibrilELsudan: 4:01pm On Dec 02, 2018
awelekiti:
Another olodo. America doesn't need to issue a visa before you could be arrested. With the Interpol and the help of the government of that country, you stand to be arrested any day. It bothers me a lot at times when so,e of you often find it difficult to decipher a simple matter. Dies it mean you can't read or that you're truly lazy as bugari pisited? Shame. Somebidy was refused a visa under 221g but was later cleared and you're there spewing ignorance. He could only be deported if He doesn't have a defined mission in the USA at the port of entry. Simple


YOU JUST PROVED HOW BRAINWASHED YOU ARE. YOU THINK ITS THAT EASY TO EXTRADITE ALLEGED CRIMINALS WHO ARE VIP's FROM THEIR HOME COUNTRY OR COUNTRY OF REFUGE? IF THAT WERE THE CASE WHY HAVEN'T THEY EXTRADITED THE LIKES OF AL BASHIR, THE WIKILEAKS MAN, OR EVEN OUR AUNTY DIEZANI?

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Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 4:12pm On Dec 02, 2018
princeonx:

You can type all you want oga but like I said, issuing Atiku a US Visa does not clear him of any crime. He was issued a Visa because they found him eligible for that under whatever category he applied. The USA government are also never in a rush to arrest anybody unless they want/have to. I've lived here for 2 decades as well as work with/for them so I know. I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm simply saying is that if they want Atiku, they will inform him. It's easier to write Atiku, contact his lawyer, or contact Atiku than those Yahoo boys you mentioned.
ok. You're simply one of those few who reason differently and sensibly and so, I'd go further in my explanations . I stand to be corrected pls. By the way, apologies for those typos. Was composed while in traffic. You've been able to clear the air a bit by saying, he was issued visa because he was found eligible under whatever category or means for which he applied. We live in a country where people are judged on the media ( social, print or electronic) and until there's a law promulgated to take care of such, our people would keep misbehaving . That said , I was attacked so much by a few simply because I didn't go deep in my first comment, thinking every contrbutor would simply understand my standpoint. Issuance of visa doesn't guarantee admissibility at the POE . Students and visitors have been sent back in the past while some were even arrested and put in a cold cell at the POE. That atiku was issued a visa was a sign he was found eligible and have also been cleared of the concerns the consular must have had by placing his application under 221g when he first applied ( meaning his application was undergoing administrative processing). I was following the case with keen interest in the national dailies . 221g isn't an issue and shouldn't be construed for a ceime as many myopic Nigerians viewed it. They, because of their preference for lying buhari said atiku is wanted in the usa for the crime he committed...which crime? America had said they've got no criminal case against atiku. I've fallen under the same 221g in the past after which my visa was approved. I schooled update new York and had lived there before too. Amazingly, a single line of explanation which could simply be understood by a white or a westerner would probably take a whole page to explain to my people . See the screenshot and probably look it up for the rest of the story . Cheers

Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 4:20pm On Dec 02, 2018
jibrilELsudan:



YOU JUST PROVED HOW BRAINWASHED YOU ARE. YOU THINK ITS THAT EASY TO EXTRADITE ALLEGED CRIMINALS WHO ARE VIP's FROM THEIR HOME COUNTRY OR COUNTRY OF REFUGE? IF THAT WERE THE CASE WHY HAVEN'T THEY EXTRADITED THE LIKES OF AL BASHIR, THE WIKILEAKS MAN, OR EVEN OUR AUNTY DIEZANI?
another comment, bereft of reason. Diezani is British. She's already standing trials in the UK
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by jibrilELsudan: 4:43pm On Dec 02, 2018
awelekiti:
another comment, bereft of reason. Diezani is British. She's already standing trials in the UK


If she like let her run trials in the UK. Bottom line is Atiku is a wanted criminal in the United States and he can't travel there. Atiku will never smell the guest toilet of Aso Rock expect when he's doing janitor work cleaning it.
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by deomelo: 5:31pm On Dec 02, 2018
jmaine:


You have always been paid a incompetent clown....

https://punchng.com/dont-criminal-case-atiku-us/




Yes they don't, they just accidentally tagged, labeled and flagged him as a PPE, an undesirable and unwanted crook in their country.

I just wonder why the us Congress out of 200 countries on the surface of the earth picked our own Atiku to investigate and show the world as the face and poster boy for corruption.

You should also explain to us why and how Siemens bribe money landed into Atiku bank account in the US according to the US Congress.

Yes, they don't have any case against him, but he still can not enter the US while ordinary Nigerian can.

If they really don't have anything against him, tell him to pack his load and enter the US.

At your ile age, you are peddling rubbish and common diplomatic talk.

Smart you really are not.
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 6:27pm On Dec 02, 2018
jibrilELsudan:



If she like let her run trials in the UK. Bottom line is Atiku is a wanted criminal in the United States and he can't travel there. Atiku will never smell the guest toilet of Aso Rock expect when he's doing janitor work cleaning it.
Ok, deal with the below info...

Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by Nobody: 6:34pm On Dec 02, 2018
akilo1:
continue to dey deceive yourself ,make he enter na ..shebi he don get Visa
he'd surely enter. Atiku isn't buhari who was placed on life ban due to his stance on jihad and boko haram, before he had the ban lifted by USA and UK when vying for presidency . Same with his wife Aisha who was an accomplice in a money laundering act with her cousin in USA. It took her almost forever to enter USA because she was wanted. The case was swept under the carpet by APC so Nigerians wouldn't know. She'd definitely be picked as soon as her hubby leaves 9dfice to stand trials in the usa
Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by jmaine: 8:10pm On Dec 02, 2018
deomelo:



[s]
Yes they don't, they just accidentally tagged, labeled and flagged him as a PPE, an undesirable and unwanted crook in their country.

I just wonder why the us Congress out of 200 countries on the surface of the earth picked our own Atiku to investigate and show the world as the face and poster boy for corruption.

You should also explain to us why and how Siemens bribe money landed into Atiku bank account in the US according to the US Congress.

Yes, they don't have any case against him, but he still can not enter the US while ordinary Nigerian can.

If they really don't have anything against him, tell him to pack his load and enter the US.

At your ile age, you are peddling rubbish and common diplomatic talk.

Smart you really are not[/s] .

More trash...the link below dispels every gabbage you put up there...

https://punchng.com/dont-criminal-case-atiku-us/

Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by adekolaelect(m): 9:48pm On Dec 02, 2018
Afamed:
A fugitive will always be a fugitive. The fear of Guantanamo prison don reset Atiku brain. Who no Sabi enjoy Christmas for him house. IPob for don land Atiku to a journey of no return just the way they landed their bloda/ Nnamdi Kanu few months ago to Python dance
you can kill person with laugh oooooo

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