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Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by speedyconnect3: 6:52am On Dec 04, 2018
Abati60:
The National assembly does NOT have the power to summon any foreign ambassador. When will this power drunk legislators understand simple proceedure, thats why no foreign country takes us serious. They should rather look for ways to fix the rot in our education system

Pls your authority.

I want to learn more.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by SoNature(m): 6:53am On Dec 04, 2018
dancewith:
The rate of denials of visa from the consulate is alarming. There appears to be a policy shift as people that ordinarily qualifies for a visa are refused these days

Not all Nigerians 're running away. There exists several airline routing to the US daily and this would only have been possible because many visit and return otherwise who would those airlines be catering for

The UK and most other countries explain their reasons for denying visas to applicants in writing, making it easy for those denied to work on those areas and correct them. The fact the US issues pre printed papers with no pointer to why applicants are refused makes the entire experience difficult and people are left to make the same mistakes over and over

While other countries continue to adjudicate their visa decision based on documents, the consulate continue to do document free visa adjudication making the process lottery like. Those qualified but less prepared fail, while unqualified applicants but well prepared are issued visas. This also leads to more applicants who never returns, which are used to punish the countries involved in future visa decisions

They need to really review their process


Oga, the US embassy does not deny someone a visa without stating the reason. On that blue paper, they usually state why an applicant is not qualified to travel to the US.

They usually cite that they fear that the applicant does not have enough ties to bring them back to their home country, meaning that they are afraid they want to run away.

Let's face it, more than 70% leaving Nigeria to the US on a tourist visa have no plans of coming back. Don't think these guys are dumb
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by speedyconnect3: 6:53am On Dec 04, 2018
SoNature:


This is unnecessary

To the news

Our correspondent was further told that the embassy usually issued preprinted blue papers to those it rejected without giving a specific reason for the decision.

US embassy does not deny someone a visa without stating the reason

This is bad journalism

On that blue paper, they usually state why an applicant is not qualified to travel to the US

They usually cite that they fear that the applicant does not have enough ties to bring them back to their home country

It has been corroborated here several times that they deny without citing reasons.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by BabaO2: 6:54am On Dec 04, 2018
Those guys at the national assembly are selfish and jobless. Nigerians are denied US visa every day, how has Atiku's denial so special? Atiku is corrupt and has criminal financial records unlike some genuine Nigerians that had been denied by same US embassy in the past but no representation was made to the embassy by the national assembly.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by sinola(m): 6:54am On Dec 04, 2018
kahal29:
The National Assembly has summoned the United States Ambassador to Nigeria, Mr Stuart Symington, over the alleged high rate of visa denial of Nigerians.

The invitation was said to be at the instance of an activist, Kayode Bello, who petitioned the House over the matter.

The PUNCH had done an investigation into how many Nigerian students seeking to study in US schools were denied visas despite spending a lot of money on different fees.

Some of the fees, our correspondent learnt, were application fees, evaluation fees, courier fees, service fees, visa fees, school fees.

The fees were said to be non-refundable.

While some of the students claimed that they were denied visas because they were not married, others said they were denied because only one of their parents was their sponsor.

A parent claimed that his daughter’s interview was cut short because she asked the interviewer to speak up.

Our correspondent was further told that the embassy usually issued preprinted blue papers to those it rejected without giving a specific reason for the decision.

More than three weeks after enquiries were sent to the embassy, no response had been got by The PUNCH.

A former ambassador to the US, John Campbell had, however, told our correspondent that visas were given by consular officers on a case by case basis, adding that the refusal of many people to return home after finishing their programmes made the process difficult.

The activist, Bello, petitioned the National Assembly through a member representing the Ede and Ejigbo Federal Constituency, Prof. Mojeed Alabi, after suffering a similar fate of denial.

The summon, titled, ‘Indiscriminate denial of United States of America visa and illegal increment of exchange rate of visa fee by the American embassy’ was signed by the House Committee Chairman on Public Petitions, Uzo Azubuike.

The two-page document, dated November 27, 2018, and a copy of which was received by our correspondent, said the hearing would hold on Tuesday, December 4 at 2pm at the House of Representatives Room 429.

The House asked the ambassador to present 20 copies of his defence.

The Clerk of the House, Mr Omale Adoyi, confirmed the development to our correspondent on Monday.

He, however, said the US embassy rejected the summon.

“But we will go on with the hearing and may have to adjourn if they fail to show up,” he added.

https://punchng.com/breaking-visa-denial-national-assembly-summons-us-ambassador/

they are putting mouth in it because it is basically affecting their wards.If na only for ordinary common man in the street,you will never hear them say it in the house.

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Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by Uglymugg: 6:55am On Dec 04, 2018
OyinO:

So, for this reason, they should be allowed to humilate, intimidate, insult and exploit our people? How dumb? Let them simply say, Nigerians are not included in their visa schemes. Two wrongs don't make a right.

If you don't have enough ties to Nigeria and yet you go to apply for visa, you deserve to be exploited.

Blacks can't see pattern. With Trump being president, you should know not to waste your money going to US but because of low IQ, you keep doing the same thing while expecting different result.

The US embassy can't close down because of students who want to run from Nigeria, they also can't chase you away when you're giving them frew money. They are there for people who want to go to America and still return.

It would be better for them to summon Donald Trump and ask him to sign an executive order allowing Nigerians to enter U.S. freely, because the Ambo is jist following instructions.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by emmie14: 6:55am On Dec 04, 2018
buhariguy:
I thought is thief atiku case they are talking about
Noo thief Nigeria rather
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by MobilityExpress: 6:56am On Dec 04, 2018
These people are making a mockery of themselves. The US ambassador is not answerable to the Nigerian government on how it chooses to conduct its internal affairs. Smh! Summon ko, Conjure ni. grin
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by martineverest(m): 6:58am On Dec 04, 2018
Nbote:
We don cast jare... 95% of those seeking visa to d US are running away from d country with no intention of coming back.. Imagine one of my Uncle of over 60 and his wife abandoned their kids here and ran to d US in d name of visiting their daughter. Dem no gree return...
well said....I don't think American Embassy is wicked.they have completely figured out Nigerians ulterior motives,thus the denal
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by 6digitscomrade: 6:58am On Dec 04, 2018
helinues:
So the NA are just waking up now bah?

UK, Canada Visas are even worst than Usa these days
Canada has a pedigree so it's Republic of Ireland also...UK and USA are easier bro...Just get it right and be ready to spend cash..But Canada and Ireland even ur cash is no guarantee..That's why both countries are still normal to live in...
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by SoNature(m): 6:59am On Dec 04, 2018
speedyconnect3:


It has been corroborated here several times that they deny without citing reasons.

grin grin

Believe me, those people are liars!
Next time, tell them to scan and upload the paper they embassy issued to them in rejection
They always say that they fear the applicant wants to run away from their country because they don't have strong ties that will bring them back home.
The truth is most times getting a visa depends on LUCK

That's why many people go praying and fasting for it
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by Lexusgs430: 7:01am On Dec 04, 2018
UK next..... They are simply using this application processes to raise funds..... Milking all applicants....

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Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by spiritedtete: 7:01am On Dec 04, 2018
Ekpekus:
Nigeria we hail thee... the US is a sovereign nation and has the right to deny whoever does not satisfactory meet their stipulated requirements.
National Assembly should face other pressing issues

You missed the point... No one is saying they shouldn't do as they wish..

The point is... Denying people visa is now a chorus and alot of innocent Nigerians are on this table.

Secondly if you deny people visa make a refund and stop syphoning.

From my own experience... USA embassy doesn't even carry out invistigation on applicants... They just give you visa based on discretion

I remember being denied many years ago, after passing my SAT and did better than 97% college board seniors.. my TOEFL was very good too. I went to the embassy as a real student very ambitious. The irony of the story is the guys that forged account statements are the ones who were giving visas.

Another interviewer at window 6 was just giving out visas because it was her birthday.

After many years I also forged and got the ViSA.. though I went and came back as planned

So far US embassy has a flawed foreign policy. Compare to UK and Canada

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Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by sonnie10: 7:03am On Dec 04, 2018
Don't you have enough schools in Nigeria? What other school are you seeking abroad?
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by dancewith: 7:05am On Dec 04, 2018
SoNature:



Oga, the US embassy does not deny someone a visa without stating the reason. On that blue paper, they usually state why an applicant is not qualified to travel to the US.

They usually cite that they fear that the applicant does not have enough ties to bring them back to their home country, meaning that they are afraid they want to run away.

Let's face it, more than 70% leaving Nigeria to the US on a tourist visa have no plans of coming back. Don't think these guys are dumb

On the contrary, the paper you refer to is pre printed and is the same issued to all that are denied visa

Do you call that a reason? I am aware it points to their immigration law that says the applicant failed to convince the visa officer that he or she has sufficient ties to their country to which they would return. But how does everyone get to be issued this same reason and you expect them to know the specific defect they need to correct in future applications

The UK and Canada would point out the exact specific reasons for denying you visa such that you can work to overcome them in future applications

I am not here to debate if Nigerians are running away en masse. I studied in Nigeria and abroad and I know several Nigerians that did so and are back here. The apocalyptic outcry that we are all running away isn't what I intend to debate here but if someone paid hard earned money for a visa, if he or she is deemed unqualified, for heaven's sake give them a clear enough reason why that is so

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Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by dederocs(m): 7:05am On Dec 04, 2018
Shame on Nigeria, the world does not respect our political representatives cos they know they are all con artists and thieves.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by BabaO2: 7:05am On Dec 04, 2018
Abati60:
The National assembly does NOT have the power to summon any foreign ambassador. When will this power drunk legislators understand simple proceedure, thats why no foreign country takes us serious. They should rather look for ways to fix the rot in our education system
bunch of illiterates at the national assembly, like Dino Melaye like Adeleke. When has shouting and making thuggery aggressions on the floor of the senate turned to legislation? This their action will even destroy Atiku the more. Obasanjo needs to withdraw million copies of his book around the world that contained criminal records of atiku.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by OyinO: 7:10am On Dec 04, 2018
Uglymugg:


If you don't have enough ties to Nigeria and yet you go to apply for visa, you deserve to be exploited.

Blacks can't see pattern. With Trump being president, you should know not to waste your money going to US but because of low IQ, you keep doing the same thing while expecting different result.

The US embassy can't close down because of students who want to run from Nigeria, they also can't chase you away when you're giving them frew money. They are there for people who want to go to America and still return.

It would be better for them to summon Donald Trump and ask him to sign an executive order allowing Nigerians to enter U.S. freely, because the Ambo is jist following instructions.
Impressive, but NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Using a people's vulnerability to exploit them is criminal and inhumane.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by Hodstat1986: 7:11am On Dec 04, 2018
Why must you go to the US when you're not wanted there? Pls, is it by force? The Nigerians aspiring to travel abroad esp to the US have no shame not even when you're being denied their Visa.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by AdultMaleNegro(m): 7:13am On Dec 04, 2018
its kay bello again�
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by spiritedtete: 7:14am On Dec 04, 2018
SoNature:


This is unnecessary

To the news

Our correspondent was further told that the embassy usually issued preprinted blue papers to those it rejected without giving a specific reason for the decision.

US embassy does not deny someone a visa without stating the reason

This is bad journalism

On that blue paper, they usually state why an applicant is not qualified to travel to the US

They usually cite that they fear that the applicant does not have enough ties to bring them back to their home country

Common what are you saying...

A consular told me .. "you are qualified for this visa.. but sorry I don't feel like giving you"

What about that. I was 20 years old then o applying for student visa

At the end still gave me that their scam preprinted papers

You can't even protest... You can reapply as many times as you want .

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Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by anonymous1759(m): 7:16am On Dec 04, 2018
kahal29:
The National Assembly has summoned the United States Ambassador to Nigeria, Mr Stuart Symington, over the alleged high rate of visa denial of Nigerians.

The invitation was said to be at the instance of an activist, Kayode Bello, who petitioned the House over the matter.

The PUNCH had done an investigation into how many Nigerian students seeking to study in US schools were denied visas despite spending a lot of money on different fees.

Some of the fees, our correspondent learnt, were application fees, evaluation fees, courier fees, service fees, visa fees, school fees.

The fees were said to be non-refundable.

While some of the students claimed that they were denied visas because they were not married, others said they were denied because only one of their parents was their sponsor.

A parent claimed that his daughter’s interview was cut short because she asked the interviewer to speak up.

Our correspondent was further told that the embassy usually issued preprinted blue papers to those it rejected without giving a specific reason for the decision.

More than three weeks after enquiries were sent to the embassy, no response had been got by The PUNCH.

A former ambassador to the US, John Campbell had, however, told our correspondent that visas were given by consular officers on a case by case basis, adding that the refusal of many people to return home after finishing their programmes made the process difficult.

The activist, Bello, petitioned the National Assembly through a member representing the Ede and Ejigbo Federal Constituency, Prof. Mojeed Alabi, after suffering a similar fate of denial.

The summon, titled, ‘Indiscriminate denial of United States of America visa and illegal increment of exchange rate of visa fee by the American embassy’ was signed by the House Committee Chairman on Public Petitions, Uzo Azubuike.

The two-page document, dated November 27, 2018, and a copy of which was received by our correspondent, said the hearing would hold on Tuesday, December 4 at 2pm at the House of Representatives Room 429.

The House asked the ambassador to present 20 copies of his defence.

The Clerk of the House, Mr Omale Adoyi, confirmed the development to our correspondent on Monday.

He, however, said the US embassy rejected the summon.

“But we will go on with the hearing and may have to adjourn if they fail to show up,” he added.

https://punchng.com/breaking-visa-denial-national-assembly-summons-us-ambassador/


Nigeria is bad, Nigeria is this, Nigeria that. Is not by force for the United States to Grant Visas. But if Americans don't like us they should hate Nigerian money aslo. 75% of these fees should be refundable.. dinaing someone visa and not refunding the money is Fraud... This oyinbos perpaterate Fraud in directly but We're too blind to see... We hate ourselves more looking at what some people are commenting...
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by zoedew: 7:17am On Dec 04, 2018
They should rather focus on examining reasons why citizens are desperately seeking to leave the country. That should sober them up. But for God, they won’t debate that!!
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by dancewith: 7:17am On Dec 04, 2018
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Don't know why you cannot understand what is in plain sight. They are pretty candid about this. Your people overwhelmingly donot return. They have a working immigration system with local and foreign agents who track these things and the dishonesty is glaring. Most Nigerians lie about their intent so they have a duty to protect their country. Let me ask you. With the way foreigners flood Nigeria from Niger, Chad and Mali some bearing arms and some perpetuating crimes, don't you wish we had a proactive border control and immigration system and don't you fear Nigeria will be irreparably damaged if this illegal immigration continues unchecked. That is how they feel.

As for the cost of visas, that is deliberate to discourage applications in the long term. Make it a costly system and people will think thrice about repeating the process. Their message is loud and clear. They want to slow down entry and illegal migration which costs them and their economy more than the visa fees could ever mitigate.

Every country has a right to its immigration policy. Not every country is as loose and careless with its demography like Nigeria.


We keep stereotyping this. It simply isn't true. Do a research on how many Brits emigrate out of the UK annually. Do the same about how many Americans leave America to live in other countries

You would find the numbers mind boggling

Back to your claim. Yes Nigerians travel like other nationals. Some do not come back like other nationals. I do not have the stats but what I do know is that when you visit any major airports around the world , you would see a crowd of Nigerians at the departure lounge returning to Nigeria after a brief trip abroad

We should stop this demonizing already. I strongly believe this is now a bandwagon
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by michoim(m): 7:22am On Dec 04, 2018
He should not go...they lack power to summon him...Atiku is a thief
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by bendike: 7:23am On Dec 04, 2018
Nbote:
We don cast jare... 95% of those seeking visa to d US are running away from d country with no intention of coming back.. Imagine one of my Uncle of over 60 and his wife abandoned their kids here and ran to d US in d name of visiting their daughter. Dem no gree return...
You blame your uncle? My mechanic that found his way to the US is probably richer than me now. LOL.
Abeg blame the otondo for "ass o rock" for making dollar 370 and pounds over 500.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by saajus: 7:27am On Dec 04, 2018
National Assembly is deluded. Nobody can summon another country for VISA denial. We can only retaliate by increasing Americans VISA denials if we have a ill feeling.

Fix your country and be respected. Very soon, ECOWAS go comot Nigeria from the list and Ghana will be refusing Nigerians VISA. We've become burden to all African countries, Europe and America.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by Nobody: 7:27am On Dec 04, 2018
FarahAideed:
Nigerians need to learn that America is not a Nigetian state and so owes Nigeria no explanation .. How can the dream of every Nigerian be to be an American Citizen ? What kind of nonsense is that
I don’t BLAME you at all.
I wish I can Invite you over for just a month.
U need to see how countries treat their CITIZENS, as if their existence depend on that ordinary citizen.
That’s why I have confronted many preacher men in Nigeria to STOP promising Nigerians HELL when they die.
NIGERIANS have had enough Hell.
They can’t afford to be relegated to another one.
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by engrkaz(m): 7:27am On Dec 04, 2018
oyin44:
Just cause...of hopeless education system here in nigeria..what is the use of an education that does not make a man either practical or productive?let me put it in these terms...the university professor of mechanical engineering could not service his own motor...his electrical counterpart could not repair his own radio..
Engineers aren’t craftsmen....
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by stickle(m): 7:29am On Dec 04, 2018
nigeria, my country. may the labour of our past heros never be in vain, amen
Re: Visa Denial: National Assembly Summons US Ambassador by Uglymugg: 7:29am On Dec 04, 2018
OyinO:

Impressive, but NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Using a people's vulnerability to exploit them is criminal and inhumane.

Coming from a country that has the highest and least successful amount of internet fraudsters.

Wow, how criminal and inhumane wink

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