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easynetsms:
I want to ask a question, when Solomon scarified 1000 cows for God was it scam?

When Abel sacrificed the biggest animals in his farm was it scam?

Why are we always attacking the church... Do the right thing and leave d rest for God


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Didn't Christ said he had redeemed us from all of these sacrifices ? How you guys quote the bible to suit yourselves is disturbing. Why not Emulate Jesus Christ who had redeemed us from all these practices. Its the same you and your lots that accuse some celestials practicing the old testament way of praying to God.

babeosisi:
My fellow Christians wake up.Don't fall for that 419
It's all a scam to take your money. God doesn't need your money to bless you,he owns everything already and he gives freely to all. Open your eyes.

Don't let them deceive you with Shiloh sacrifice and first fruits anymore. God has given you all things that pertains to life and godliness. Don't let them scam you.
Invest your money wisely, bless your mother, help the poor instead of giving it to Oyedepo and co.

Those men are already super rich, go build your own wealth, start a business, save for a rainy day. God doesn't do trade by barter .

These people prey on your stupidity.

Don't let them

God bless you.

flyca:
I don't know but lemme tell you this:

I'm the least religious person in my family but the most successful (not bragging though). By the way, my family is not even a radically religious one, we are not penticostals. We love God and we worship Him in the most basic way.

But when I left Nigeria, I found out that success (and failure) is in my own hands! Give and take! Hoha!

I quite understand that there is need for humans to have a believe is some supernatural being but most of our beliefs are born out of sheer laziness. We don't want to do our part. We want someone or something to take responsiblities of our inactions etc.

Examples:
Pray to pass exam.
Pray to be rich.
Pray to buy a house.
Pray not to die (on top bad road, and Dangote truck, seiously?)
Pray to complete a project.
Pay tithe to be rich etc

If you want any of these good result, the only way to get them is to work towards it! It is only when you have done your best, then the ones you cannot change as a human being, you hand them over to God!

So I keyed into that and I have been succeeding exceptionally! Ameeen o. That's how individuals succed. That's how nations succed!

I remember as an undergraduate, I struggled so much with academics in my early years. I was at that time so distracted in a “good” relationship. Then towards exams, I get serious, read what I can and then pray! Thankfully in my 3rd year, I managed to end the relationship and paid full attention to books! Even without “prayers”, I aced all my courses, clinching a 2'1 by the feet!

I know folks are are not religuous and yet not successful (they know they are living below their potentials). Failure is also in our hands. No man (except maybe your parents) can curse you and it will work because he is your “spiritual head”.
My elder sister just failed an interview last week. When I spoke with her the morning of the interview, I knew she was not ready! Guess what, after the interview, she blamed God. Then she balmed her husband. Lol

I won't tell you what to do, or believe. But please use your brain!

Hmmmm...flyca flyca

Amitez:
Okay but it is none of your business who I give my money to.

Full grown sheep!

GoTV:
Even though I'm a born again Christian, I'm ashamed that the fraud called Oyedepo has finally gone mad to the extent of peddling falsehood on the pulpit just to discredit the president. Oyedepo has always been an arrogant, irresponsible con artist hiding under Christianity to perpetuate his fraud. This useless man is not the only pastor in Nigeria and his constant attacks on the president means the anti corruption crusade is biting him hard unlike previous regimes that gave him and his likes import waivers and other soft landing. Oyedepo is a disgrace to Christianity and he's way of life is not even Christ like to begin with. The federal government should give him the Elzaky-zaky treatment should Buhari win in 2019. Such a terrible personality should not be walking free as his utterances are a threat to national security. In saner climes, people like Oyedepo will be terminated to the underworld by the FEDS to avoid impending doom. While Muslim leaders all over the country remain mute and non partisan in the political atmosphere, our useless Christian leaders like Mbaka and Oyedepo are bringing shame to the church. I only pity the Gullible members of winners chapel whose brain is pocketed by the fraudulent vermin called Oyedepo

APC zombie and a confirmed Muslim. Go and read the book. "23 years" by Prof. Dashti and you should fill ashamed of being a Muslim. I guess you are already ashamed of being a Muslim. That is why you always claim to be a Christian. Shame on you.

GoTV:
Where is it written in the bible to give money to pastors?

. Read 1 cor 9: 14

Okoyeebos:
Let those who want to give their money to Oyedepo give.

Let those who want to give to God by giving to the needy give.

Invest your money, let them keep shouting I receive. Those who dashed Oyedepo money 20 years ago can't afford to send their kids to the schools Oyedepo built.

Some people are destined not to ever have sense and nothing you say can change that.

But before you give, I have a question: "Look at all those dashing him money, how are they better off than those who don't give?"

Word.

kareemkamil:
Nigerian Christian are the most amazing people in way of thinking and research. Honestly 90% of Nigeria Christian doesn't know anything in the Bible. That's why they fall into victims. Your fellow human being like you are using your brain, since you dont wanna use your brain, somebody is there to use it for you.

Your assertion is wrong.

GoTV:
What has Oyedepo contributed to the well being of Nigerians? He build power plants for masses or roads? How many menbers of his fraudulent church can send their kids to schools he built with their seeds? Oyedepo is a fraud

Let me not insult you because you are ignorant. Next time research well before posting thrash on public forum.

Trust MoroNigerians to abuse the living daylight out of your life.

luminouz:
Hmmmm...flyca flyca

Your problem here is your shallow thought that we give cuz we expect blessing or succes in return. No we don’t or I don’t. I give cuz I’m promoting my Lords work. And you accusing the pastors of using my money for personal gain won’t stop that. I give to the needy but then I give to the pastors to promote Gods word, I’m not burdened by it, I’m not forced to. I do it to appreciate Gods work in my life, it’s the least I can do to promote his earthly work. If the pastors uses it for their own gain, God will fully pay them. Whatever you sow you reap, no pastor would escape Gods judgement no one will. So it you deem it so right to pay, then pay, if you think you don’t want it then don’t. Ain’t nobody coercing you

I caught a word from Bishop yesterday " that you are responsible for your actions once you are 20 years old , this is a man that has never look back on is vision ,God I asked for his grace upon me..Satan on nairaland get behind me

@Op,

There's nothing wrong with giving to the church of God. Oh yes, God is a spirit and doesnt need your physical money; but what God needs is your faith! God's hand can be moved in your life when he sees you do something difficult (a sacrifice) to gain his attention.

When God asked Abram to sacrifice Issac as a burnt offering, of course God isnt a cannibal so he wasnt going to come down and eat Isaac, he didnt need Isaac for anything. Likewise when God asks for animal sacrifices in the old testament, he doesnt come down to eat the lamb the people sacrifice, God doesnt eat or need your lamb meat. Also, when we fast to support our prayers, of course God doesnt come down and eat the food which we didnt eat, neither does He take pleasure in seeing you go hungry. But in all these things, God is simply moved when we deprive ourselves of something valuable to us in order to gain his attention. Depriving ourselves of something valuable or subjecting ourselves to distress is called 'sacrifice' if we do it to gain God's attention.

This isnt even restricted to God. Even juju spirits that ask for sacrifices in shrines for a native doctor to perform a charm, the juju spirits dont come down to eat the white spotless male chicken you bring. All the juju wants is for you to make an effort at something difficult, to deprive yourself of something valuable. At the end, it's the chief priest and his family that eats the chicken meat, but the juju god has seen your effort in providing such a difficult requirement (sacrifice) and that is the price you have to pay for the juju to grant your wishes.

So in essence, just the same way humans go on hunger strike when protesting and trying to gain attention of govt or whoever, that's the same way Christians fast or deprive themselves of money to gain God's attention. Both cases are called 'sacrifice'; but yeah, there is no doubt that the new generation religious movements have taken the money drive to a ridiculous level which even God can never be pleased with. It even gets worse when most churches now preach that giving to God must entail giving money to a church.

Gandollar:
Hehehehe...APC has switched their warfare to Oyedepo but I have a word of caution for them, if Oyedepo opens his mouth to lay a curse on you ehnn... Jubrin would beg to be repatriated

I won't be surprise ur mummy has not seen a penny of urs but ur so called daddy in d lord is taking what she sowed for. Wasted things without brain.

Your fellow Christian kiiii you there ijiotu! Read Bible you no go gree read dy there dy call people your fellow Christians.

Nigeria need to follow Rwanda

Ban Religion

Rwanda is presently taking giant steps as they free from shackles.


People have paid this fraudsters money that could deliver them into wealth.


Go their programmes, the poverty stricken make the bulk of the attendance.

I pity lots seeing someone believing so much that prayer and giving out the meager they have to a fellow man like them believing he is giving God

Height of stupidity.

flyca:
I don't know but lemme tell you this:

I'm the least religious person in my family but the most successful (not bragging though). By the way, my family is not even a radically religious one, we are not penticostals. We love God and we worship Him in the most basic way.

But when I left Nigeria, I found out that success (and failure) is in my own hands! Give and take! Hoha!
Your problem here is your shallow thought that we give cuz we expect blessing or succes in return. No we don’t or I don’t. I give cuz I’m promoting my Lords work. And you accusing the pastors of using my money for personal gain won’t stop that. I give to the needy but then I give to the pastors to promote Gods word, I’m not burdened by it, I’m not forced to. I do it to appreciate Gods work in my life, it’s the least I can do to promote his earthly work. If the pastors uses it for their own gain, God will fully pay them. Whatever you sow you reap, no pastor would escape Gods judgement no one will. So it you deem it so right to pay, then pay, if you think you don’t want it then don’t. Ain’t nobody coercing you


I quite understand that there is need for humans to have a believe is some supernatural being but most of our beliefs are born out of sheer laziness. We don't want to do our part. We want someone or something to take responsiblities of our inactions etc.

Examples:
Pray to pass exam.
Pray to be rich.
Pray to buy a house.
Pray not to die (on top bad road, and Dangote truck, seiously?)
Pray to complete a project.
Pay tithe to be rich etc

If you want any of these good result, the only way to get them is to work towards it! Work consistently and persistently towards it! It is only when you have done your best, then the ones you cannot change as a human being, you hand them over to God!

So I keyed into that and I have been succeeding exceptionally! Ameeen o. That's how individuals succed. That's how nations succed!

I remember as an undergraduate, I struggled so much with academics in my early years. I was at that time so distracted in a “good” relationship. Then towards exams, I get serious, read what I can and then pray! Thankfully in my 3rd year, I managed to end the relationship and paid full attention to books! Even without “prayers”, I aced all my courses, clinching a 2'1 by the feet!

I know folks are are not religuous and yet not successful (they know they are living below their potentials). Failure is also in our hands. No man (except maybe your parents) can curse you and it will work because he is your “spiritual head”.
My elder sister just failed an interview last week. When I spoke with her the morning of the interview, I knew she was not ready! Guess what, after the interview, she blamed God. Then she balmed her husband. Lol

I won't tell you what to do, or believe. But please use your brain!

Your problem here is your shallow thought that we give cuz we expect blessing or succes in return. No we don’t or I don’t. I give cuz I’m promoting my Lords work. And you accusing the pastors of using my money for personal gain won’t stop that. I give to the needy but then I give to the pastors to promote Gods word, I’m not burdened by it, I’m not forced to. I do it to appreciate Gods work in my life, it’s the least I can do to promote his earthly work. If the pastors uses it for their own gain, God will fully pay them. Whatever you sow you reap, no pastor would escape Gods judgement no one will. So it you deem it so right to pay, then pay, if you think you don’t want it then don’t. Ain’t nobody coercing you

ikaboy:
I won't be surprise ur mummy has not seen a penny of urs but ur so called daddy in d lord is taking what she sowed for. Wasted things without brain.

You said it all

Lots of them have their spiritual daddy ahead of their parents

GoTV:
Even though I'm a born again Christian, I'm ashamed that the fraud called Oyedepo has finally gone mad to the extent of peddling falsehood on the pulpit just to discredit the president. Oyedepo has always been an arrogant, irresponsible con artist hiding under Christianity to perpetuate his fraud. This useless man is not the only pastor in Nigeria and his constant attacks on the president means the anti corruption crusade is biting him hard unlike previous regimes that gave him and his likes import waivers and other soft landing. Oyedepo is a disgrace to Christianity and he's way of life is not even Christ like to begin with. The federal government should give him the Elzaky-zaky treatment should Buhari win in 2019. Such a terrible personality should not be walking free as his utterances are a threat to national security. In saner climes, people like Oyedepo will be terminated to the underworld by the FEDS to avoid impending doom. While Muslim leaders all over the country remain mute and non partisan in the political atmosphere, our useless Christian leaders like Mbaka and Oyedepo are bringing shame to the church. I only pity the Gullible members of winners chapel whose brain is pocketed by the fraudulent vermin called Oyedepo

Shut up!

You're an Awusa-Fulani alamajiri Muslim. We're not deceived. Jubrin must be repatriated back to his native Sudan

GoTV:
Even though I'm a born again Christian, I'm ashamed that the fraud called Oyedepo has finally gone mad to the extent of peddling falsehood on the pulpit just to discredit the president. Oyedepo has always been an arrogant, irresponsible con artist hiding under Christianity to perpetuate his fraud. This useless man is not the only pastor in Nigeria and his constant attacks on the president means the anti corruption crusade is biting him hard unlike previous regimes that gave him and his likes import waivers and other soft landing. Oyedepo is a disgrace to Christianity and he's way of life is not even Christ like to begin with. The federal government should give him the Elzaky-zaky treatment should Buhari win in 2019. Such a terrible personality should not be walking free as his utterances are a threat to national security. In saner climes, people like Oyedepo will be terminated to the underworld by the FEDS to avoid impending doom. While Muslim leaders all over the country remain mute and non partisan in the political atmosphere, our useless Christian leaders like Mbaka and Oyedepo are bringing shame to the church. I only pity the Gullible members of winners chapel whose brain is pocketed by the fraudulent vermin called Oyedepo

You have never been born again. You Son of Belial. No born again person will call someone who has never defrauded you a fraud. You are the next of Kin of Satan always starting your sentence with "even though you're born again". May the name of Jesus with which you lie render unto you the Judgement of Ananias and Sapphira!

Reprobate, Son of Ishmael!

babeosisi:
My fellow Christians wake up.Don't fall for that 419
It's all a scam to take your money. God doesn't need your money to bless you,he owns everything already and he gives freely to all. Open your eyes.

Don't let them deceive you with Shiloh sacrifice and first fruits anymore. God has given you all things that pertains to life and godliness. Don't let them scam you.
Invest your money wisely, bless your mother, help the poor instead of giving it to Oyedepo and co.

Those men are already super rich, go build your own wealth, start a business, save for a rainy day. God doesn't do trade by barter .

These people prey on your stupidity.

Don't let them

Adviser.
It is not your money
Nor ur business
And if u say we are stupid for doing it, it is not your stupidity either.
How other people's choice of action affects you directly is what I am yet to comprehend.
Mind your business

Okoyeebos:
Let those who want to give their money to Oyedepo give.

Let those who want to give to God by giving to the needy give.

Invest your money, let them keep shouting I receive. Those who dashed Oyedepo money 20 years ago can't afford to send their kids to the schools Oyedepo built.

Some people are destined not to ever have sense and nothing you say can change that.

But before you give, I have a question: "Look at all those dashing him money, how are they better off than those who don't give?"

THATS IF YOU RE DASHING THEM THE MONEY....PLS LEARN TO SAY WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND...GUESS ITS WORKING FOR THOSE THAT BELIEVE

flyca:
I don't know but lemme tell you this:

I'm the least religious person in my family but the most successful (not bragging though). By the way, my family is not even a radically religious one, we are not penticostals. We love God and we worship Him in the most basic way.

But when I left Nigeria, I found out that success (and failure) is in my own hands! Give and take! Hoha!

I quite understand that there is need for humans to have a believe is some supernatural being but most of our beliefs are born out of sheer laziness. We don't want to do our part. We want someone or something to take responsiblities of our inactions etc.

Examples:
Pray to pass exam.
Pray to be rich.
Pray to buy a house.
Pray not to die (on top bad road, and Dangote truck, seiously?)
Pray to complete a project.
Pay tithe to be rich etc

If you want any of these good result, the only way to get them is to work towards it! Work consistently and persistently towards it! It is only when you have done your best, then the ones you cannot change as a human being, you hand them over to God!

So I keyed into that and I have been succeeding exceptionally! Ameeen o. That's how individuals succed. That's how nations succed!

I remember as an undergraduate, I struggled so much with academics in my early years. I was at that time so distracted in a “good” relationship. Then towards exams, I get serious, read what I can and then pray! Thankfully in my 3rd year, I managed to end the relationship and paid full attention to books! Even without “prayers”, I aced all my courses, clinching a 2'1 by the feet!

I know folks are are not religuous and yet not successful (they know they are living below their potentials). Failure is also in our hands. No man (except maybe your parents) can curse you and it will work because he is your “spiritual head”.
My elder sister just failed an interview last week. When I spoke with her the morning of the interview, I knew she was not ready! Guess what, after the interview, she blamed God. Then she balmed her husband. Lol

I won't tell you what to do, or believe. But please use your brain!

Many wont get the deep message in this. Thank you!

Boboye4slim:
Your problem here is your shallow thought that we give cuz we expect blessing or succes in return. No we don’t or I don’t. I give cuz I’m promoting my Lords work. And you accusing the pastors of using my money for personal gain won’t stop that. I give to the needy but then I give to the pastors to promote Gods word, I’m not burdened by it, I’m not forced to. I do it to appreciate Gods work in my life, it’s the least I can do to promote his earthly work. If the pastors uses it for their own gain, God will fully pay them. Whatever you sow you reap, no pastor would escape Gods judgement no one will. So it you deem it so right to pay, then pay, if you think you don’t want it then don’t. Ain’t nobody coercing you

Are you partially blind or intentionally going obtuse? Did you see any word like pastor or priest or any of such in my post? Shift with your foolery abeg!

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teceejay1:
You have never been born again. You Son of Belial. No born again person will call someone who has never defrauded you a fraud. You are the next of Kin of Satan always starting your sentence with "even though you're born again". May the name of Jesus with which you lie render unto you the Judgement of Ananias and Sapphira!

Reprobate, Son of Ishmael!

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You're no different from boko haram. Brainwashed fanatic

Evercurious:
THATS IF YOU RE DASHING THEM THE MONEY....PLS LEARN TO SAY WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND...GUESS ITS WORKING FOR THOSE THAT BELIEVE

You guess...
You're not even sure of what you're defending.

Most of you supporting this scam are ignorant. The day you read your bibles, you'll stop dashing these people your money.

MarshRiley:
Lol, me and my money again, leave me alone, I want to be scammed.
By the way it's not a scam, it has worked for me that's why I keep doing it.
Have a nice day bro.

Thank you Bro. I'm an evidence that Shiloh sacrifice works. Nobody is forcing anyone to give it, so we don't even need anybody's opinion.

Naughtysite:
sharrap Even if you give pastor one million and you loose your job pastor no go give you one thousand I am telling you from experience

We ve heard you...Are you done?

Everyday na the same thing

Everyday na the same thing

Suffer suffer for world

Enjoy for heaven


I love Fela

flyca:
I don't know but lemme tell you this:

I'm the least religious person in my family but the most successful (not bragging though). By the way, my family is not even a radically religious one, we are not penticostals. We love God and we worship Him in the most basic way.

But when I left Nigeria, I found out that success (and failure) is in my own hands! Give and take! Hoha!

I quite understand that there is need for humans to have a believe is some supernatural being but most of our beliefs are born out of sheer laziness. We don't want to do our part. We want someone or something to take responsiblities of our inactions etc.

Examples:
Pray to pass exam.
Pray to be rich.
Pray to buy a house.
Pray not to die (on top bad road, and Dangote truck, seiously?)
Pray to complete a project.
Pay tithe to be rich etc

If you want any of these good result, the only way to get them is to work towards it! Work consistently and persistently towards it! It is only when you have done your best, then the ones you cannot change as a human being, you hand them over to God!

So I keyed into that and I have been succeeding exceptionally! Ameeen o. That's how individuals succed. That's how nations succed!

I remember as an undergraduate, I struggled so much with academics in my early years. I was at that time so distracted in a “good” relationship. Then towards exams, I get serious, read what I can and then pray! Thankfully in my 3rd year, I managed to end the relationship and paid full attention to books! Even without “prayers”, I aced all my courses, clinching a 2'1 by the feet!

I know folks are are not religuous and yet not successful (they know they are living below their potentials). Failure is also in our hands. Don't allow any huma being threaten you with curses abeg. No man (except maybe your parents) can curse you and it will work because he is your “spiritual head”.


My elder sister just failed an interview last week. When I spoke with her the morning of the interview, I knew she was not ready! Guess what, after the interview, she blamed God. Then she balmed her husband. Lol

I won't tell you what to do, or believe. But please use your brain!

you made a sensible contribution

na wa ....people like to talk sha