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Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 12:01pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
[quote author=obailala post=73596655]@Op, There's nothing wrong with giving to the church of God. Oh yes, God is a spirit and doesnt need your physical money; but what God needs is your faith! God's hand can be moved in your life when he sees you do something difficult (a sacrifice) to gain his attention. When God asked Abram to sacrifice Issac as a burnt offering, of course God isnt a cannibal so he wasnt going to come down and eat Isaac, he didnt need Isaac for anything. Likewise when God asks for animal sacrifices in the old testament, he doesnt come down to eat the lamb the people sacrifice, God doesnt eat or need your lamb meat. Also, when we fast to support our prayers, of course God doesnt come down and eat the food which we didnt eat, neither does He take pleasure in seeing you go hungry. But in all these things, God is simply moved when we deprive ourselves of something valuable to us in order to gain his attention. Depriving ourselves of something valuable or subjecting ourselves to distress is called 'sacrifice' if we do it to gain God's attention. This isnt even restricted to God. Even juju spirits that ask for sacrifices in shrines for a native doctor to perform a charm, the juju spirits dont come down to eat the white spotless male chicken you bring. All the juju wants is for you to make an effort at something difficult, to deprive yourself of something valuable. At the end, it's the chief priest and his family that eats the chicken meat, but the juju god has seen your effort in providing such a difficult requirement (sacrifice) and that is the price you have to pay for the juju to grant your wishes. So in essence, just the same way humans go on hunger strike when protesting and trying to gain attention of govt or whoever, that's the same way Christians fast or deprive themselves of money to gain God's attention. Both cases are called 'sacrifice'; but yeah, there is no doubt that the new generation religious movements have taken the money drive to a ridiculous level which even God can never be pleased with. It even gets worse when most churches now preach that giving to God must entail giving money to a church.[/ Pagan Christian.smh 2 Likes |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by Ekspensive(m): 12:23pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
Thank you for the info. But what I do with my money is none of your business. If you don't have what to say, just keep quiet |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by backnbeta(f): 12:42pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
GoTV:Stop hiding under Christianity, you blasphemous mofol!!! We know you are a staunch Muslim and a hater of Christianity... Just come out from your filthy closet and be free, Mr Jubril Ahmed! |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by stagger: 1:06pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
People like the OP are the stingy broke and frustrated Nigerians who can never give God one naira, talkless of rendering any tangible help to anyone. Ask him how many times he has ever given a dime to the IDPs scattered all over Nigeria. My wife and I have done at least three IDP visitations and have another one next week. We pay school fees for people, give to orphanages AND we still fulfill our covenant obligations in terms of tithes, offerings and sacrifice. Every year has been bigger and better and just better. God himself spoke to me in my room about these things way before I even joined Winners. Many people are reaping the benefits of their seeds sown over the years. Why people like the OP think they can think for me, and tell me how I spend MY MONEY (some of which I show below) simply beats my imagination. 1 Like
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Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by double0seven(m): 1:06pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
GoTV: You are not a born again Christian. No need to lie a about that |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by Grupo(m): 1:15pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
stagger: Hahaha. See Euros. Chai |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by lekkys: 1:16pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
It working for us that are giving towards kingdom promotion and is non of you guys business.It's very hard for canal mind to understand the things of the Spirit. |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by Princesschi(f): 1:25pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
Shiloh2018... I have dominion |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by Abyima(m): 1:27pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
I am not in full support, but all I want to say is that before u give a sacrifice, allow God to speak to u. Don't give if u are not leaded by the Spirit of God or u just want to show off. Nothing come out. If u know u know |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by omodave(m): 1:42pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
Op...I won't blame you, what you just stated is to the extent you know...as for me and my households we will give everything we need to give to God , even if the greatest man of God comes out to say one should Stop giving its too late already.... I have seen wonders through giving and giving have become my lifestyle ..thanks |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by Premiumwriter: 1:43pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
MarshRiley:it has worked for you? So you believe you need to give God N5, so he can give you N50,000 The things we believe in. Later it's the same us that will be preaching "the blessings of God is free" or "God does not need any from us" I know to most of us, we believe that by giving we are showing commitment to God but does God not know the heart of man? And why did none, I mean non of the apostles ever talked about tithing Even Jesus himself never even emphasize on offering or tithing. Please open your eyes, don't let fear of what God will do to you blind you. Search the scriptures and see for yourself. 2 Likes |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by imhere: 1:44pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
Why are you in pains, those doing it are not complaining. Countless testimonies have been coming out of this. Accept Jesus as your Lord and saviour. Let his love guide your actions.. |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by obailala(m): 1:55pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
genkins:And what exactly arr you talking about? |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by omoelerin1: 2:00pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
Gandollar:If he has that kind course, he should have helped Nigeria by laying course on kidnappers, armed robbers, boko haram boys. A typical fake Nigerian Christian. They know next to nothing about Christianity and its principles. They don't read the Bible. Their Bible is their papa, G.O. Mere criticism against their Dady G O, they can't endure it. They will be threatening anyone that criticise them with course. 2 Likes |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by omoelerin1: 2:30pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
orlymat:Really? You mean the only way by which the poor widow could escape her predicament was to donate money? You are a real fool. How many people did Jesus asked to bring money before receiving their healing and miracles? If only you know the moral and spiritual lesson Jesus was trying to pass across through this incident, you would not be writing this gibberish. Did the event happen in a gathering facilitated by Jesus or Jewish religious gathering? Was that donation initiated by Jesus? 3 Likes |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by babeosisi: 2:43pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
God has left shiloh Now see what became of Shiloh and why Shiloh is not the location for us believers in Christ. Psalm 78 v 60 Then he abandoned his dwelling at Shiloh, the Tabernacle where he had lived among the people. Jer7 v 12 'Go now to the place at Shiloh where I once put the Tabernacle that bore my name. See what I did there because of all the wickedness of my people, the Israelites. Jer 7 v 14 So just as I destroyed Shiloh, I will now destroy this Temple that bears my name, this Temple that you trust in for help, this place that I gave to you and your ancestors. Jer 26 v 6 then I will destroy this Temple as I destroyed Shiloh, the place where the Tabernacle was located. And I will make Jerusalem an object of cursing in every nation on earth.’” Jer 26 v 9 What right do you have to prophesy in the LORD’s name that this Temple will be destroyed like Shiloh? You see from scripture, Shiloh had its time of glory and then was destroyed. God is not in Shiloh 1 Like |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by Gandollar(f): 2:51pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
omoelerin1:You don't even deserve a response but for crissakes it's curse and not course airhead! |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by babeosisi: 2:52pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
chris365: This is the stupidity I talk about People neglect their own mothers with nothing and give to Oyedepo that has.more than enough They are brainwashed 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by omoelerin1: 2:57pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
Gandollar:I have said it as it is. You have no response. But it is Christ's sake, not crissakes. |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by Olumyyde(m): 2:58pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
orlymat:And u're soo 'wise' to see from that scripture that Jesus was not yet crucified and the law was still in full force. Study to show yourself approved..... 1 Like |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by babeosisi: 3:04pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
Ferdinandu: It's very sad Year in year out they are still at the same.spot How much shiloh did Zuckerberg give? You don't need to give a single kobo in church to be wealthy. Wealth responds to another set of rules The bible says he who does not work should not eat Oyedepo,ashimolowo and funke felix etc know money doesn't come by sowing or sacrifice that's why they are manipulating them to get their own on the spot And these people are so daft they can't even see it 1 Like |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by babeosisi: 3:07pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
If shiloh sacrifice is the way to get rich all the pastors in Nigeria will sow everything they have there and quit scamming gullible people. Oyedepo will go and sow to other pastors and get rich But they know sowing is a scam They get paid instantly when you foolishly believe them and give your hard earned money while they have you waiting for the bank to make a mistake and give you miracle money You will wait and grow grey hairs Mumu Nigerians 1 Like |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by genkins(m): 3:08pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
Boboye4slim: My brother or sister I don't blame you.those that taught you are very greedy people.they gave you this scripture s to justify that you continue to give them money.like I said ,you cannot worship God with money.God doesn't need your money.the poor do.not your pastors.christianity teaches contentment.your pastors can be paid a stipend and so are church workers.but they can also be like paul and earn a crown in heaven by preaching without charge.paul said imitate me as I imitate Christ.the only way you can give to God is in Mathew 25 31-46.your pastors pretend they do not know.shalom.read my points in your quote to get understanding 3 Likes |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by babeosisi: 3:10pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
genkins: Ask him how many millions he has made since giving to his pastor and how many millions the pastor has made. Our people are so dense 1 Like |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by DemonMonkey7(m): 3:14pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
flyca: Excuse me mr Successful, average, arrogant, insensitive, non brain washed christian, when did you start making money, asin money, and at what age? And what do you define as success? Going overseas to clinch on an hourly job? I've never seen or heard my grand dad(bishop oyedepo) or my dad(pastor Enenche) stress less on the place of hardwork, naturally what you believe works for you, so dont peddle irrelevant views on sincere hard working men of God, who have paid the full price in dedication for the body of christ. My dad is a medical doctor by profession he just didn't stumble into ministry to make money or mislead ppl into giving funds to better his life, God doesn't need your money to be more of God or less!. But i assure you that.. This God you scorn on social media ba, ull need him. ,,, and if i be a man of God two weeks will not pass! 2 Likes |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by babeosisi: 3:17pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
Amitez: You will allow pastors scam you but have the guts to complain about politicians See how you reason 1 Like |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by flyca: 3:27pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
DemonMonkey7:Take your frustrations elsewhere. Thank you 1 Like |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by GetCofOProperty: 3:49pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
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Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by Boboye4slim(m): 3:55pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
genkins: Mumu your problem is your baseless assumptions. No one taught me to give to pastors. It’s my money and no one can coerce me physically or psychologically to give to anyone. No pastor, no preacher, no healer, not even an homeless or needy person can coerce me to help if I don’t want to. It’s out of my freewill. I deem it fit to. I do what I do cus I want to. Try your pseudo wisdom on someone else 1 Like |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by Boboye4slim(m): 4:07pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
babeosisi: You’re the dense fellow here if you think I give to pastor cuz I expect returns. You people ehn. You don’t complain when we give to the needy, u don’t when we spend bulks of liquor and women, you don’t when we spend on various hobbies..... but whenever we give tokens to pastor that dishes out sermons every Sunday, word of truth that “always” have positive impact on peoples lives, you start complaining. As you dey sef, how much have you given to a pastor that warrant so much hatred?? Leave the people of God alone, the reason their blessings is so much is because they impact so many lives with the world of love and hope they share every time. Leave them alone. You people are cruel and foolish. . What if they fly private jets, do they fly it to go on holidays? They only fly it to go on evangelism and talk about God the more!!! Why are you hating Most of them are on fasting most days of the week, How much can they eat or drink?? Those that give are not fool, lawyers give, doctors, professor, high achiever in various careers, are they also dumb? You the only wise fellow who is so sure that this pastors don’t deserve our giving.... haba!! Leave them alone and face your life. Stop opening threads to accuse men of God. Muslims give to their clerics too, traditional priest receives from their ..... leave us alone to gift our men of God |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by babeosisi: 4:12pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
Boboye4slim: Another brainwashed soul Ndo |
Re: Shiloh Sacrifice Scam by Boboye4slim(m): 4:13pm On Dec 06, 2018 |
stagger: Bros I like you in Jesus name 1 Like |
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