Fvcknames:

The 4th dimension is time bro

the 4th dimension I am referring to is the invisible ,that is the spiritual.

musicwriter:


The mind can control matter by placing mind over matter. You can control matter but it's all the same thing. You're the one making it work. However, this does not mean the odieshi you hear about is real. Sometimes, it's just unconfirmed story.

See video for mind over matter rituals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb17oYO0ALw

'Goan' and sit down

At my old age, I have seen a floating needle hanging with no rope in the doorstep of a man

story
you've sold your soul for toy
your space is reserved in hell

musicwriter:
When I was 10 years old, there was a toy in vogue that every child seem to have but I didn’t have it. One day, I went into the forest and said "Satan give me the toy and I will worship you". Believe it or not, when I looked down on the ground, there on my feet I saw the toy, it was exactly the one I wanted. I picked it up and ran away into town.

I was very happy.

But as I was running away, I kept saying loud "I no gree, I no gree, I no gree", which means I disagree, I am not doing that. When I got to where I sat down, I gave it a thought and it seemed so miraculous. Did the toy appear from nowhere?

Over many years, as I was growing up, I’ve been dealing with explaining to myself whether the toy appeared from nowhere or whether it was there before I arrived. Finally, as an adult, I have come to the conclusion that the toy was there all along but I didn't just see it. It was my mind playing a trick on me BECAUSE I’VE BEEN TOLD ABOUT GOD AND SATAN. If I was told that Satan is Santa Claus, I would have thought it was Santa Claus.

This single incident and the battle I’ve had inwardly throughout my childhood trying to explain the source of the toy, had helped me understand how the mind works and the nature of reality.

Before you conclude it was a trick by the real Satan/devil, no it wasn’t a trick by Satan/devil. It was my mind creating my reality based on what I, we believe over here in Africa i.e traditional African religion plus Christianity. If you happen to be one of such people, that’s because just like the car owner, society had conditioned you to believe it was satan.

Your perception creates your belief or truth. Your belief or truth in turn controls your behavior and to a great extent your action. Therefore, he who controls your perception controls your behavior and action.

To be continued................................

Bitter truth. Nothing like money ritual. It only worked for those who d juju gave confidence. Nothing like someone in ur room vomitting cash

ednut1:
Bitter truth. Nothing like money ritual. It only worked for those who d juju gave confidence. Nothing like someone in ur room vomitting cash

there is no money ritual without human sacrifice,

pls answer would you like to test even if you have to travel to a certain village on your own? just directions


the Op knows nothing.


even kids from my side boasts who is more powerful also there is a day set aside for traditionists to display their powers but only a selected few are allowed to come out to see n participate,you will see corn planted and harvested in a single day.

ordinary ORO festival, go ikorodu and try to disorganize them ,they won't beat you.


Ever wondered why most pastors don't do revivals in certain areas?

only a real man of God does that and they are still doing it.

still in doubt ,just go to ring road in benin city and just capture a single bat make sure u kill it and post the picture here.

Like at xylad said already, you have a point but your explanation is flawed.
In your explanation, I can only see that you try to merge two separate entities because they seem to have something in common (faith, emotion and energy).
There's is the supernatural as well as there's mysticism which completely rely on the type of energy and faith you explained in your post. It is quite true that there's a God given or shall I say natural energy that works as a driving force that makes things work either naturally or miraculously but this soul energy which mysticism completely rely on is quite different from the belief in supernatural forces and spiritualism which people refer to as religion. Personally as a person, I believe that the only mystery in the entire universe is man's understanding of his own true nature (the soul). I believe that if only man has a better understanding of himself, the mystery around time travel, death and man's origin will be unraveled.
According to your claim that there's no truth except what individuals believe to be true, does it not also implies that there's a possibility that this your claim might also be false? Saying there's no truth is directly proportional to saying there's no need for learning and once there's no need for learning, one can say categorically that life has no essence.

I agree with you that there's an inbuilt soul energy and every man has a mystical aspect of his life which is subject to an individuals ability to make use of it, but this soul energy is still different from the supernatural energy and spiritual forces which people worship.

musicwriter:


''I DON'T FEAR THE UNKNOWN, THE UNKNOWN FEARS ME''

nice write up. If well investigated, stories of jazz are exaggerations to create more mysteries and fears around natural things that are well concealed to make them appear supernatural.

But there's still this jazz I don't understand and I know it would have an explanation, if you can help though, it is the jazz of bulletproof. I haven't seen personally but heard of people who were shot and bullet refused to penetrate or people who were matcheted but the machete had no effect. How did that work?

ednut1:
Bitter truth. Nothing like money ritual. It only worked for those who d juju gave confidence. Nothing like someone in ur room vomitting cash

I nearly caused a stir while arguing this fact with my mom. ppl gathered around ND it was like me against the world. some advanced women gave me the "this boy has gone mad look as well he might hv joined them"

Xlyad:
although that is not the matter at hand,by your logic can you also prove that your parents conceived you with pictorial evidence? Moreover, proofs don't start and end with the sense of sight.it is in the same measure we study the properties of atoms despite the fact that even the greatest of scientists have never seen an atom.

What kind of unintelligent comparison is this?

placebo effect comes into mind

Is it not funny to read people defending their reality even after d op has explained the concept behind it.

Most of the knowledge most people get about jazz is from the movies and not real life.

I will like to tell you something. There is no wealth or good health without sacrifice, sacrifice could be your time, money or banning smoking or drinking in ur life or many other normal resources. In life to get something you have to give something.

THe beauty about african traditional religion is that there is no devil or satan.it s human that do evil and good on earth.

jeff1607:



there is no money ritual without human sacrifice,

pls answer would you like to test even if you have to travel to a certain village on your own? just directions


the Op knows nothing.


even kids from my side boasts who is more powerful also there is a day set aside for traditionists to display their powers but only a selected few are allowed to come out to see n participate,you will see corn planted and harvested in a single day.

ordinary ORO festival, go ikorodu and try to disorganize them ,they won't beat you.


Ever wondered why most pastors don't do revivals in certain areas?

only a real man of God does that and they are still doing it.

still in doubt ,just go to ring road in benin city and just capture a single bat make sure u kill it and post the picture here.

its all about fear. The white men entered the scariest of shrines with skulls and all and destroyed it. Nothing happened. Even the so call benin the white man ransacked and looted the palace and shrine nothing happened to dem

We lack the concept of meta physic in african traditional religion because people are scared, they dont understand the concept.

https://www.facebook.com/158338594672257/posts/387588141747300/ odeshi debunked by mr aroms. There was odeshi white man came with guns and cannons. Used it to defeat many of our tribes in nigeria. The ijebu offered human sacrifices to prevent d british from crossing a river. D british simply used cannon to kill most of d ijebu soldiers on d oda side of the river and crossed. Where was the so called yemoja. Soldiers are being killed by boko y are dey not using odeshi Can odeshi stop rpg or tomahawk missiles Nonsense scam

ednut1:
its all about fear. The white men entered the scariest of shrines with skulls and all and destroyed it. Nothing happened. Even the so call benin the white man ransacked and looted the palace and shrine nothing happened to dem

bro it won't hurt you to kill just a bat , would it?

dazzlingd:


nice write up. If well investigated, stories of jazz are exaggerations to create more mysteries and fears around natural things that are well concealed to make them appear supernatural.

But there's still this jazz I don't understand and I know it would have an explanation, if you can help though, it is the jazz of bulletproof. I haven't seen personally but heard of people who were shot and bullet refused to penetrate or people who were matcheted but the machete had no effect. How did that work?

It's possible because as I told the other guy, mind can control matter. I have no research on that area. However, I hope you've heard on this forum that many people died testing such powers.

realmindz:


What kind of unintelligent comparison is this?

how is it unintelligent?

Homeboiy:
Bia Nwoke m


Them never back u jazz before,


Jazz is real


Take it or leave it


Don't quote me

Jazz works because you are AFRAID of it or BELIEVED in it AS you progress in knowledge you will discover that Emotion is Man's Creative Power But I still believe in JESUS

respect80:
Like at xylad said already, you have a point but your explanation is flawed.
In your explanation, I can only see that you try to merge two separate entities because they seem to have something in common (faith, emotion and energy).
There's is the supernatural as well as there's mysticism which completely rely on the type of energy and faith you explained in your post. It is quite true that there's a God given or shall I say natural energy that works as a driving force that makes things work either naturally or miraculously but this soul energy which mysticism completely rely on is quite different from the belief in supernatural forces and spiritualism which people refer to as religion. Personally as a person, I believe that the only mystery in the entire universe is man's understanding of his own true nature (the soul). I believe that if only man has a better understanding of himself, the mystery around time travel, death and man's origin will be unraveled.
According to your claim that there's no truth except what individuals believe to be true, does it not also implies that there's a possibility that this your claim might also be false? Saying there's no truth is directly proportional to saying there's no need for learning and once there's no need for learning, one can say categorically that life has no essence.

I agree with you that there's an inbuilt soul energy and every man has a mystical aspect of his life which is subject to an individuals ability to make use of it, but this soul energy is still different from the supernatural energy and spiritual forces which people worship.

Everyone has their different bag of truth. Collectively, we carry around our truths everywhere we go. That's why everyone behave differently. Only people who have the same set of truths behave alike.

Do you want PDP to win in 2019? Do you like Atiku or Buhari? Is Buhari a clone? What do you make of this thread? Whatever your answer depends on the bag of truth you personally carry around. Someone else bag contains different combination of truth.

The only energy out there in nature is the one coming out of what we call God or whatever have you.

musicwriter:


There's no devil. There's no Jesus.

However, you can create one for yourself.

Oga just as there are Positive and Negative emotions there exists Positive and Negative forces

Naughtysite:
Oga just as there are Positive and Negative emotions there exists Positive and Negative forces

Of course, but it's not the Bible's God and Satan. Negative and positive makes one. So, there's only one power out there coming from what we call God or what have you. We are also a degree of that power, good or bad.

jeff1607:



there is no money ritual without human sacrifice,

pls answer would you like to test even if you have to travel to a certain village on your own? just directions


the Op knows nothing.


even kids from my side boasts who is more powerful also there is a day set aside for traditionists to display their powers but only a selected few are allowed to come out to see n participate,you will see corn planted and harvested in a single day.

ordinary ORO festival, go ikorodu and try to disorganize them ,they won't beat you.


Ever wondered why most pastors don't do revivals in certain areas?

only a real man of God does that and they are still doing it.

still in doubt ,just go to ring road in benin city and just capture a single bat make sure u kill it and post the picture here.

I hail oo.So you mean those bats are not just ordinary bats?

Dear Op, your points are lucid enough but while reading it, I see that you give credence to a higher power which you named 'nature.'
Now, be it nature or not, are you not the one creating such reality to yourself? You said emotions and commitment make miracles to flow or something like that but don't you think those are mere illusions which you are trying to make a reality?

Everything in life is all about perception and your perspective. Viewing life and reality from just one belief system gives u a small fraction of the big picture. It's terrible that we go true life without discovering the self, without awakening because we were blinded by a believe system.
I'm opened to view life from Islam, Jews, Buddhist etc... but I chose to live by the ways of Christianity. There is a difference between sprituality and religion.
You choose your path, don't let another man decide your faith or lead you on your own journey.

How do you love God when you don't love your fellow man?
Man is an entity of who God is, God has given you powers too.

Jackossky:
Dear Op, your points are lucid enough but while reading it, I see that you give credence to a higher power which you named 'nature.'
Now, be it nature or not, are you not the one creating such reality to yourself? You said emotions and commitment make miracles to flow or something like that but don't you think those are mere illusions which you are trying to make a reality?

There's no ONE truth!!. You create your own truth based on your perceptions/experiences.

Of course, my own truths depend on my perceptions so far. You may pick one or two points here and add to your own truths or even reject it. Our truths is the reason we all behave differently.

See pic below

realmindz:


What kind of unintelligent comparison is this?

sorry for the 'unintelligent comparison' but my reply is as a consequence of the level of intelligence of your question, and whenever you can show that you are capable of higher intellectual rigor, l will reply you in equal measure.

@ musicwriter you had a good argument till you flawed it with your definition of truth being subjective, I must bring to your notice the fact that there are universal truth eg. 1+1=2. Maybe you are having a hard time separating truth from fact.

Jackossky:

I hail oo.So you mean those bats are not just ordinary bats?

just use catapult to kill one and see

yes they are fruit bats but they have been there for quite a while.

ednut1:
https://www.facebook.com/158338594672257/posts/387588141747300/ odeshi debunked by mr aroms. There was odeshi white man came with guns and cannons. Used it to defeat many of our tribes in nigeria. The ijebu offered human sacrifices to prevent d british from crossing a river. D british simply used cannon to kill most of d ijebu soldiers on d oda side of the river and crossed. Where was the so called yemoja. Soldiers are being killed by boko y are dey not using odeshi Can odeshi stop rpg or tomahawk missiles Nonsense scam

the british wiped and cut down a lot if empires some still stand as at today, please try getting close to some of the soldiers that return from the Boko Haram insurgency they will tell you what they have seen.

Also with truck drivers that play long routes, how do you explain an accident scene where the driver disappears and the motor boy is around and no bush or trail around ,it just happened right in front of you, people disappear in case you don't know but it has it's repercussions.not just years cut down but things involved.

even in government public schools I mean core public schools kids test themselves .

the monarchy system in Egypt is no more, same with Ghana but we still have done surviving in Nigeria, look around you not just stories,

if you love adventure try seeing with your own eyes.


people hold rain also.

can someone explain to me why is it during market days in either lusada or agbara it rains so heavily,