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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Xlyad(m): 5:30am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Fvcknames:the 4th dimension I am referring to is the invisible ,that is the spiritual. |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by heskeyw(m): 5:59am On Dec 09, 2018 |
musicwriter:'Goan' and sit down 1 Like |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by geunik(m): 7:22am On Dec 09, 2018 |
At my old age, I have seen a floating needle hanging with no rope in the doorstep of a man |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 7:43am On Dec 09, 2018 |
story you've sold your soul for toy your space is reserved in hell musicwriter: |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by ednut1(m): 7:48am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Bitter truth. Nothing like money ritual. It only worked for those who d juju gave confidence. Nothing like someone in ur room vomitting cash 1 Like |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by jeff1607(m): 8:05am On Dec 09, 2018 |
ednut1: there is no money ritual without human sacrifice, pls answer would you like to test even if you have to travel to a certain village on your own? just directions the Op knows nothing. even kids from my side boasts who is more powerful also there is a day set aside for traditionists to display their powers but only a selected few are allowed to come out to see n participate,you will see corn planted and harvested in a single day. ordinary ORO festival, go ikorodu and try to disorganize them ,they won't beat you. Ever wondered why most pastors don't do revivals in certain areas? only a real man of God does that and they are still doing it. still in doubt ,just go to ring road in benin city and just capture a single bat make sure u kill it and post the picture here. 4 Likes |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by respect80(m): 8:19am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Like at xylad said already, you have a point but your explanation is flawed. In your explanation, I can only see that you try to merge two separate entities because they seem to have something in common (faith, emotion and energy). There's is the supernatural as well as there's mysticism which completely rely on the type of energy and faith you explained in your post. It is quite true that there's a God given or shall I say natural energy that works as a driving force that makes things work either naturally or miraculously but this soul energy which mysticism completely rely on is quite different from the belief in supernatural forces and spiritualism which people refer to as religion. Personally as a person, I believe that the only mystery in the entire universe is man's understanding of his own true nature (the soul). I believe that if only man has a better understanding of himself, the mystery around time travel, death and man's origin will be unraveled. According to your claim that there's no truth except what individuals believe to be true, does it not also implies that there's a possibility that this your claim might also be false? Saying there's no truth is directly proportional to saying there's no need for learning and once there's no need for learning, one can say categorically that life has no essence. I agree with you that there's an inbuilt soul energy and every man has a mystical aspect of his life which is subject to an individuals ability to make use of it, but this soul energy is still different from the supernatural energy and spiritual forces which people worship. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by dazzlingd(m): 8:30am On Dec 09, 2018 |
musicwriter: nice write up. If well investigated, stories of jazz are exaggerations to create more mysteries and fears around natural things that are well concealed to make them appear supernatural. But there's still this jazz I don't understand and I know it would have an explanation, if you can help though, it is the jazz of bulletproof. I haven't seen personally but heard of people who were shot and bullet refused to penetrate or people who were matcheted but the machete had no effect. How did that work? |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by judey1992(m): 8:36am On Dec 09, 2018 |
ednut1: I nearly caused a stir while arguing this fact with my mom. ppl gathered around ND it was like me against the world. some advanced women gave me the "this boy has gone mad look as well he might hv joined them" 1 Like |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by realmindz: 8:36am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Xlyad: What kind of unintelligent comparison is this? |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by judey1992(m): 8:37am On Dec 09, 2018 |
placebo effect comes into mind |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 8:37am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Is it not funny to read people defending their reality even after d op has explained the concept behind it. Most of the knowledge most people get about jazz is from the movies and not real life. I will like to tell you something. There is no wealth or good health without sacrifice, sacrifice could be your time, money or banning smoking or drinking in ur life or many other normal resources. In life to get something you have to give something. THe beauty about african traditional religion is that there is no devil or satan.it s human that do evil and good on earth. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by ednut1(m): 8:39am On Dec 09, 2018 |
jeff1607:its all about fear. The white men entered the scariest of shrines with skulls and all and destroyed it. Nothing happened. Even the so call benin the white man ransacked and looted the palace and shrine nothing happened to dem 18 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 8:49am On Dec 09, 2018 |
We lack the concept of meta physic in african traditional religion because people are scared, they dont understand the concept. 1 Like |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by ednut1(m): 8:59am On Dec 09, 2018 |
https://www.facebook.com/158338594672257/posts/387588141747300/ odeshi debunked by mr aroms. There was odeshi white man came with guns and cannons. Used it to defeat many of our tribes in nigeria. The ijebu offered human sacrifices to prevent d british from crossing a river. D british simply used cannon to kill most of d ijebu soldiers on d oda side of the river and crossed. Where was the so called yemoja. Soldiers are being killed by boko y are dey not using odeshi Can odeshi stop rpg or tomahawk missiles Nonsense scam 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by jeff1607(m): 9:04am On Dec 09, 2018 |
ednut1: bro it won't hurt you to kill just a bat , would it? 2 Likes |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by musicwriter(m): 9:12am On Dec 09, 2018 |
dazzlingd: It's possible because as I told the other guy, mind can control matter. I have no research on that area. However, I hope you've heard on this forum that many people died testing such powers. |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nostradamus: 9:18am On Dec 09, 2018 |
realmindz:how is it unintelligent? 2 Likes |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 9:19am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Homeboiy:Jazz works because you are AFRAID of it or BELIEVED in it AS you progress in knowledge you will discover that Emotion is Man's Creative Power But I still believe in JESUS |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by musicwriter(m): 9:27am On Dec 09, 2018 |
respect80: Everyone has their different bag of truth. Collectively, we carry around our truths everywhere we go. That's why everyone behave differently. Only people who have the same set of truths behave alike. Do you want PDP to win in 2019? Do you like Atiku or Buhari? Is Buhari a clone? What do you make of this thread? Whatever your answer depends on the bag of truth you personally carry around. Someone else bag contains different combination of truth. The only energy out there in nature is the one coming out of what we call God or whatever have you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 9:34am On Dec 09, 2018 |
musicwriter:Oga just as there are Positive and Negative emotions there exists Positive and Negative forces 2 Likes |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by musicwriter(m): 9:41am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Naughtysite: Of course, but it's not the Bible's God and Satan. Negative and positive makes one. So, there's only one power out there coming from what we call God or what have you. We are also a degree of that power, good or bad. 1 Like |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Jackossky(m): 9:45am On Dec 09, 2018 |
jeff1607: I hail oo.So you mean those bats are not just ordinary bats? |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Jackossky(m): 9:48am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Dear Op, your points are lucid enough but while reading it, I see that you give credence to a higher power which you named 'nature.' Now, be it nature or not, are you not the one creating such reality to yourself? You said emotions and commitment make miracles to flow or something like that but don't you think those are mere illusions which you are trying to make a reality? 4 Likes |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nerosoft19(m): 9:50am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Everything in life is all about perception and your perspective. Viewing life and reality from just one belief system gives u a small fraction of the big picture. It's terrible that we go true life without discovering the self, without awakening because we were blinded by a believe system. I'm opened to view life from Islam, Jews, Buddhist etc... but I chose to live by the ways of Christianity. There is a difference between sprituality and religion. You choose your path, don't let another man decide your faith or lead you on your own journey. How do you love God when you don't love your fellow man? Man is an entity of who God is, God has given you powers too. |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by musicwriter(m): 9:57am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Jackossky: There's no ONE truth!!. You create your own truth based on your perceptions/experiences. Of course, my own truths depend on my perceptions so far. You may pick one or two points here and add to your own truths or even reject it. Our truths is the reason we all behave differently. See pic below 1 Like
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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Xlyad(m): 9:59am On Dec 09, 2018 |
realmindz:sorry for the 'unintelligent comparison' but my reply is as a consequence of the level of intelligence of your question, and whenever you can show that you are capable of higher intellectual rigor, l will reply you in equal measure. |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Goodlyhrt(m): 10:01am On Dec 09, 2018 |
@ musicwriter you had a good argument till you flawed it with your definition of truth being subjective, I must bring to your notice the fact that there are universal truth eg. 1+1=2. Maybe you are having a hard time separating truth from fact. 2 Likes |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by jeff1607(m): 10:03am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Jackossky:just use catapult to kill one and see yes they are fruit bats but they have been there for quite a while. 1 Like |
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by jeff1607(m): 10:15am On Dec 09, 2018 |
ednut1: the british wiped and cut down a lot if empires some still stand as at today, please try getting close to some of the soldiers that return from the Boko Haram insurgency they will tell you what they have seen. Also with truck drivers that play long routes, how do you explain an accident scene where the driver disappears and the motor boy is around and no bush or trail around ,it just happened right in front of you, people disappear in case you don't know but it has it's repercussions.not just years cut down but things involved. even in government public schools I mean core public schools kids test themselves . the monarchy system in Egypt is no more, same with Ghana but we still have done surviving in Nigeria, look around you not just stories, if you love adventure try seeing with your own eyes. people hold rain also. can someone explain to me why is it during market days in either lusada or agbara it rains so heavily, |
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