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alBHAGDADI:
But did he discourage Christians not to pay tithe?

why will he discourage christians over what is not a universal practice but was a law strictly meant for a particular tribe(the jewish tribe) or are you not aware that adherents of christianity comprises of all tribes of the world and not just only the jews?

There was no need to even mention tithing to christians talkless of discouraging christians over it.

That means that what God said in the Old Testament still holds as long as he didn't change it in the New Testament. You all are just trying to play God by changing what he never changed.

Galatians 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

The same thing applies to tithing and every other jewish laws order than the 10 commandments
Neither tithing availeth anything nor untithing

He changed circumcisions, he changed animal sacrifices, he changed the law against adultery etc. If he didn't want Christians to tithe, his son or the disciples would have stated such.

why are you using etc?
etc implies that there several other jewish laws you couldnt possibly mention here because they were so much.
His or the disiples therefore couldnt possibly state tithing which ofcourse was part of the etc

But since they didn't, who are you to say tithing has stopped? Are you God? Especially when you have no verse to back your claim up.

use your brain, no one is a child here.
There are certain indices when you read your bible that certain class of laws were all inclusive you dont need anyone to tell you.

Since the disciples didn't speak on sleeping with one's sister which the law speaks against, why not go ahead and sleep with your sister?

do you now see exactly what i am talking about?
Tithing was not mentioned just like one sleeping with his sister wasnt mentioned but will you wait until it was mentioned that one sleeping with his sister is wrong before you know that it is wrong?
The same thing applies, you dont need to wait until it was mentioned that tithing is wrong for christians before you know it is wrong.
Just follow the indices, tithing falls into the category of circumcision and sacrificing animals.
If everything like tithing were written inclusively dont you think the book called bible will be so bulky

As a matter of fact they are all the same jewish laws order than the 10 commandments

What christians should concern themselves is how to keep the 10 commandments which are laws of love for fellow mankind and not any jewish traditional laws called tithing.

Ok, if i as a yoruba man compel these jews to come and obey our traditional laws of prostrating before elders, paying homages to the yoruba dynasty will these jews comply?
I dont think so.
So why should we then uphold their law of tithing to great estime?
I dont get it.

alBHAGDADI:
Giving your tithe to the widows and orphans is wrong. It means you are assuming the role of the priest whose duty is to collect the title from you, take out of it, use some for the servicing of the house of God, give you some to eat and give the rest to widows and orphans. It is not your duty to give it to them directly. All throughout, tithe is ordered to be brought to God's house, not you taking it to widows. You are not the priest who is ordered to do that.

You still haven't showed us a scripture where it is wrong to give your tithe to the widows and orphans.

You talked about "Only" giving it to the priest so the priest will now give it to them... where is that stated in the scripture?

It is obvious you have been possessed by the spirit of the devil to mislead people...God's judgement awaits you.

MuttleyLaff:
That's a capable hand, I say to myself, when I see him OkCornel, on the front line

We've freed a thousand tithe instituted slaves.
We could have freed a thousand more, if only they knew, they are tithe instituted slaves.

If only they knew, and stop being obstinate. Jesus approved tithing because he was born under the law, live under the law and died under the law to bring an end to an the law. He also establish a new law(covenant), which is the law of grace through faith. How can they use the book of Matthew to back up tithing in the new covenant. For me the new testament began after the death and ressurrection of Jesus Christ, and not when He was given birth to.

KingOfAmebo:
You still haven't showed us a scripture where it is wrong to give your tithe to the widows and orphans.

You talked about "Only" giving it to the priest so the priest will now give it to them... where is that stated in the scripture?

It is obvious you have been possessed by the spirit of the devil to mislead people...God's judgement awaits you.

How can there be meat in God's house if you take your tithe straight to widows?

Malachi 3:10
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Nehemiah 10:35-37

35 And to bring the firstfruits of our ground, and the firstfruits of all fruit of all trees, year by year, unto the house of the Lord:

36 Also the firstborn of our sons, and of our cattle, as it is written in the law, and the firstlings of our herds and of our flocks, to bring to the house of our God, unto the priests that minister in the house of our God:

37 And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.

Nope

Again, Mr albaghdadi, regarding your post below, I can see that you were using the name of the Messiah, "Yahushua the Messiah". Why did you stop?


Did you read the above verse? People often quote it to support their notion that Yahshua the Messiah was just a prophet and not God. One thing they fail to do is check what he's responding to which helps to clarify what he said in the above verse. In verse 17 of that chapter, he was working on a Sabbath, and so he was approached by the Jews who were looking for the slightest excuse to nail him. The Sabbath is a day during which no work is to be done by any ISRAELite, but God is the only One who can work on that day cos he has to keep the universe going. For Jesus to be working on that day, they found it offensive. [color=#990000][/color]

bloodofthelamb:
If only they knew, and stop being obstinate.

Great insights or understanding is both fascinating and humbling.

The alBHAGDADI of this world dont know how to walk away from something unhealthy, something no longer needed or useful and samething make legally null and void because of the lack of great insights or understanding

bloodofthelamb:
Jesus approved tithing because he was born under the law,
live under the law and died under the law to bring an end to an the law.
He also establish a new law (covenant), which is the law of grace through faith.
How can they use the book of Matthew to back up tithing in the new covenant.
For me the new testament began after the death and ressurrection of Jesus Christ, and not when He was given birth to.

The alBHAGDADI of this world are yet to know that old ways wont open new doors

paxonel:
why will he discourage christians over what is not a universal practice but was a law strictly meant for a particular tribe(the jewish tribe) or are you not aware that adherents of christianity comprises of all tribes of the world and not just only the jews?

The warning against sleeping with your sister was not also a universal warning, so Christians are not under any obligation to obey it. Do you now understand?

paxonel:
There was no need to even mention tithing to christians talkless of discouraging christians over it.

Says who? You?

paxonel:
Galatians 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

The same thing applies to tithing and every other jewish laws order than the 10 commandments
Neither tithing availeth anything nor untithing
why are you using etc?
etc implies that there several other jewish laws you couldnt possibly mention here because they were so much.

What you are saying is that every thing about the law has been throwaway. That's why I keep advising you to go and sleep with your sister. Etc means sleeping with your father's wife, your mother and the likes. Were you expecting me to have the time to start listing everything?

paxonel:
His or the disiples therefore couldnt possibly state tithing which ofcourse was part of the etc
use your brain, no one is a child here.
There are certain indices when you read your bible that certain class of laws were all inclusive you dont need anyone to tell you.
do you now see exactly what i am talking about?
Tithing was not mentioned just like one sleeping with his sister wasnt mentioned but will you wait until it was mentioned that one sleeping with his sister is wrong before you know that it is wrong?

Do you also have to wait for tithing to be mentioned before you know it was never abolished? Same way sleeping with one's sister was never mentioned as wrong in the new testament but we know it's wrong, is the same way tithing not emphasized on in the same book should also make us know it hasn't been discarded.

paxonel:
The same thing applies, you dont need to wait until it was mentioned that tithing is wrong for christians before you know it is wrong.
Just follow the indices, tithing falls into the category of circumcision and sacrificing animals.
If everything like tithing were written inclusively dont you think the book called bible will be so bulky

Who are you to state where tithing falls? Stop making baseless statement without prove. Was there circumcission when Abraham tithed?

Don't you think since the Bible never condemned tithing, even Jesus, then Man should not condemn it?

paxonel:
As a matter of fact they are all the same jewish laws order than the 10 commandments

What christians should concern themselves is how to keep the 10 commandments which are laws of love for fellow mankind and not any jewish traditional laws called tithing.

Ok, if i as a yoruba man compel these jews to come and obey our traditional laws of prostrating before elders, paying homages to the yoruba dynasty will these jews comply?
I dont think so.
So why should we then uphold their law of tithing to great estime?
I dont get it.

Sorry dude, Abraham was not a Jew but a friend of God. He tithed not according to any Jewish law. Even when Jacob promised to tithe, it wasn't according to any Jewish law. Why do you condemn and attack those who chose to tithe? Where is your biblical backing? Why are you saying tithing has ended when God never said such? He initiated it and should be the only one to end it. Since he hasn't, who are you to end it for him?

alBHAGDADI:
And may God bless you in return as promised.

I'm glad that I finally made someone see the light. And if you are the only one who saw the light, I'm the more glad.

I also want you to know that God will ensure that the remaining 90% is sufficient for you such that you will livw better with it than you would with 100%. He will rebuke the devourer for your sake. What is the devourer? That thing that always make you lose money unnecessarily e.g hospital bills spent to treat common cold, car breaking down even after servicing it few days ago etc.

Ameeeeen. Thanks a million times. I will not fail God from now onward.
May your Christmas be filled with joy and happiness

Lokoyen:
Matthew 5:17

Stop misquoting Bible please. Jesus didn't come with salvation to abolish the law.

dont generalise!
Which law?
You have to specify, is it tithing or the 10 commandments or the law of sacrificing rams, etc?

If truly he came to abolish the law we shouldn't have the old testament in the Bible because the law as passed away.

point of correction christ never abolished tithing.
He never enforced it to christians too as tithing was only meant for the jews and not christians.

No one is forcing you to pay tithes,

big lie!
When your pastors quote malachi that non tithers are robbing God what do you call that, is that not a way of enforcing tithing to those who dont want to be seen as robbing God?
You people should be mindful of what you do o

the reward that comes with it is personal.

which reward?
atleast there are no evidence that tithers are wealthier than even muslims or athiests who dont even go to church

If you still think the law doesn't apply today please just tear of all old testament books and stop making references to them. Don;t even read the book of Psalms.

my friend the only laws of the old testament that is apply today is the 10 commandments.
Every other old testament laws which include tithing were only meant for the jews and not gentiles like you and me.

The old testament is only there for us to read and compare what was obtainable at that old time with the grace we have today as christians and see the difference and work towards a better perfection for the future.
therefore old testament can never be discarded

alBHAGDADI:
How can there be meat in God's house if you take your tithe straight to widows?

Malachi 3:10
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Nehemiah 10:35-37

35 And to bring the firstfruits of our ground, and the firstfruits of all fruit of all trees, year by year, unto the house of the Lord:

36 Also the firstborn of our sons, and of our cattle, as it is written in the law, and the firstlings of our herds and of our flocks, to bring to the house of our God, unto the priests that minister in the house of our God:

37 And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.

Of all these things I have bolded in your quote... where was it stated that tithes and first fruits are now replaced with money like we see in the church today?

And please don't even try to mention money (gold, silver or copper) never existed back then.

How are the Pastors now a replacement for the Levites?

Do you tithe in line with the requirements of the Mosaic Law?

alBHAGDADI:
Sorry dude, Abraham was not a Jew but a friend of God. He tithed not according to any Jewish law. Even when Jacob promised to tithe, it wasn't according to any Jewish law. Why do you condemn and attack those who chose to tithe? Where is your biblical backing? Why are you saying tithing has ended when God never said such? He initiated it and should be the only one to end it. Since he hasn't, who are you to end it for him?

Even Job was a friend of God, He was never required to give any tithe before God blessed him abundantly before and after his trials.

If Abram and Job were not required to tithe since they were not obliged by God to do so...why should Christians tithe today if they are also under no obligation to do so?

Matthew 23 v 23 and Luke 11 v 42 is dead on arrival because Jesus was talking of tithing as spelt out in the Mosaic Laws which applies to the Judaizers alone...


Again I ask, why should Christians tithe? Where was tithing practiced in the early church? Where did God change tithes from farm produce and livestock to money (gold, silver, paper money)?

What are the concerns of the church that freewill giving cannot address?

TrumpDonald2:
You already answered the question about the payment of tithe. Tithes were meant for the Levite's and the Levites alone. Jesus was not a Levite and so didn't collect tithes and also did not condemn the giving of tithes to the Levite's.
My problem is why our so called pastors today will lay so much emphasis on tithe when they are not Levite's and when Jesus our saviour did not. We are the followers of Christ, we ought to be 'Christ-like'.

That was why I called you out not to twist the bible like your pastors when you said the pastors are 'spiritual Levite's'. Does that even make sense to you because It definitely won't make sense to anyone that knows the truth.

Look at Nigeria and the bondage the country is in because we fail to tell ourselves the truth. The pastors, the politicians etc all propagating lies just to enrich themselves. Only the truth will set us free. Until we begin to learn, to know 'what is' and 'what is not', and stand firm on the truth and that only the truth must prevail, then we begin to set ourselves free. Many Nigerians are in religious bondage. Quote me anywhere.

Jesus collected tithe from Abraham, except you want to tell me you didn't read the article.

Pastors are spiritual Levites. What did the Levites do in those days? Their duty was to be in God's house always and care for it and also the people. Compare that to Pastors of today, is it not the same thing they do? Before Jesus came to earth, he received tithe from Abraham. He came to earth and didn't demand tithe because the people didn't know him like their father Abraham did.

John 1:11
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

You expect people who rejected Him as Messiah and killed him to pay tithe to him when they didn't understand him to be the High Priest of the Most High God? When he told them that he existed before Abraham, they picked up stones to stone him. How do you think they would have reacted if he had told them to pay tithe to him just as their father Abraham did? That's why Jesus focused on the message of salvation till his death, burial and resurrection after which true Christians now understood that he has now become the High Priest in a new priesthood. If he collected tithe from Abraham as Melchizedek the High Priest, what makes you think he has changed and won't collect tithe from we that are Abraham's children through faith? Is Jesus no longer the same yesterday, today and forever? The tithe he collects is what is being used to propagate the gospel. His ministers get paid from it else they abandoned their duty and go fend for themselves. Or is it the chicken change offering you guys donate that you want to use to run a church? You all keep mentioning freewill giving, how many of you have done that in the last six months?

If your claim is that they lay so much emphasis on tithe, then you just have been attending a money-driven church. It's your fault, not tithing's.

paxonel:
dont generalise!
Which law?
You have to specify, is it tithing or the 10 commandments or the law of sacrificing rams, etc?
point of correction christ never abolished tithing.
He never enforced it to christians too as tithing was only meant for the jews and not christians.
big lie!
When your pastors quote malachi that non tithers are robbing God what do you call that, is that not a way of enforcing tithing to those who dont want to be seen as robbing God?
You people should be mindful of what you do o
which reward?
atleast there are no evidence that tithers are wealthier than even muslims or athiests who dont even go to church
my friend the only laws of the old testament that is apply today is the 10 commandments.
Every other old testament laws which include tithing were only meant for the jews and not gentiles like you and me.

The old testament is only there for us to read and compare what was obtainable at that old time with the grace we have today as christians and see the difference and work towards a better perfection for the future.
therefore old testament can never be discarded

Still on this tithing issue?

Please no one is forced to pay tithes. Don't pay, leave others who feel comfortable to pay. Abi did they ask you for money!

gr8tone:
I have no bias mine in searching for the truth. You should know that amending a law is different from formulating and promulgating a law. (I don't want to talk on tha) The levites were not paid and had no source of income to take care of their daily needs but our pastors today are being paid with school fees of their children being cater for by the church in some cases. Most churches today even have welfare department to take care of the needies and the fund to take care of such aspect does not even come from the tithe but from members of the church. What bias mind do you think i have in searching for the rationale behind paying of tithe in our churches today?

Please which church pays pastor from contributions of members? Is it not tithe money they use in running the church?

Don't make baseless claims. Buttress them with examples of churches which do such.

OkCornel:
Ogbeni, open your bible and show us where the Apostles instructed the early christians to bring tithes into the church.


Unless you are also claiming you existed in their days as well to prove your point!

Tow can play that game.

Show us where the Apostles instructed Christians NOT to pay tithes.

Since the Bible is silent on that, who are you to tell Christians to stop paying tithe when the Apostles never did?

alBHAGDADI:
Please which church pays pastor from contributions of members? Is it not tithe money they use in running the church?

Don't make baseless claims. Buttress them with examples of churches which do such.

Was it "tithe money" that was used in running the early church?

alBHAGDADI:
Jesus collected tithe from Abraham, except you want to tell me you didn't read the article.

Pastors are spiritual Levites. What did the Levites do in those days? Their duty was to be in God's house always and care for it and also the people. Compare that to Pastors of today, is it not the same thing they do? Before Jesus came to earth, he received tithe from Abraham. He came to earth and didn't demand tithe because the people didn't know him like their father Abraham did.

John 1:11
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

You expect people who rejected Him as Messiah and killed him to pay tithe to him when they didn't understand him to be the High Priest of the Most High God? When he told them that he existed before Abraham, they picked up stones to stone him. How do you think they would have reacted if he had told them to pay tithe to him just as their father Abraham did? That's why Jesus focused on the message of salvation till his death, burial and resurrection after which true Christians now understood that he has now become the High Priest in a new priesthood. If he collected tithe from Abraham as Melchizedek the High Priest, what makes you think he has changed and won't collect tithe from we that are Abraham's children through faith? Is Jesus no longer the same yesterday, today and forever? The tithe he collects is what is being used to propagate the gospel. His ministers get paid from it else they abandoned their duty and go fend for themselves. Or is it the chicken change offering you guys donate that you want to use to run a church? You all keep mentioning freewill giving, how many of you have done that in the last six months?

If your claim is that they lay so much emphasis on tithe, then you just have been attending a money-driven church. It's your fault, not tithing's.

God bless you. This won't still convince anti-tithers that are bent on destroying it.

alBHAGDADI:
Tow can play that game.

Show us where the Apostles instructed Christians NOT to pay tithes.

Since the Bible is silent on that, who are you to tell Christians to stop paying tithe when the Apostles never did?

God bless you again. You really have their time.

alBHAGDADI:
Tow can play that game.

Show us where the Apostles instructed Christians NOT to pay tithes.

Since the Bible is silent on that, who are you to tell Christians to stop paying tithe when the Apostles never did?

Since the Bible is silent on this,
Keeping tassels at the corners of your garment? Deutoronomy 22 v 11-12
Why aren't you doing it?


Why are you also silent on the fact that God clearly instructed tithers to eat out of their tithes? Deuteronomy 14 v 22-27

22 “You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 And you shall not neglect the Levite who is within your towns, for he has no portion or inheritance with you.


Where did God change the rules of tithe from food to money?

alBHAGDADI:
The warning against sleeping with your sister was not also a universal warning, so Christians are not under any obligation to obey it. Do you now understand?

Says who? You?



What you are saying is that every thing about the law has been throwaway. That's why I keep advising you to go and sleep with your sister. Etc means sleeping with your father's wife, your mother and the likes. Were you expecting me to have the time to start listing everything?



Do you also have to wait for tithing to be mentioned before you know it was never abolished? Same way sleeping with one's sister was never mentioned as wrong in the new testament but we know it's wrong, is the same way tithing not emphasized on in the same book should also make us know it hasn't been discarded.




Who are you to state where tithing falls? Stop making baseless statement without prove. Was there circumcission when Abraham tithed?

Don't you think since the Bible never condemned tithing, even Jesus, then Man should not condemn it?



Sorry dude, Abraham was not a Jew but a friend of God. He tithed not according to any Jewish law. Even when Jacob promised to tithe, it wasn't according to any Jewish law. Why do you condemn and attack those who chose to tithe? Where is your biblical backing? Why are you saying tithing has ended when God never said such? He initiated it and should be the only one to end it. Since he hasn't, who are you to end it for him?

we all know that tithing was of an immense benefit to the old covenant as the presidings of tithing was meant for the priests or the leviticus tribe who were intermediate link between God and the israelites in those days.

How is tithing of benefit to christianity today?

Explain.

OkCornel:
Since the Bible is silent on this,
Keeping tassels at the corners of your garment? Deutoronomy 22 v 11-12
Why aren't you doing it?


Why are you also silent on the fact that God clearly instructed tithers to eat out of their tithes?

22 “You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 And you shall not neglect the Levite who is within your towns, for he has no portion or inheritance with you.


Where did God change the rules of tithe from food to money?

God bless you for this.
Please ask him o

OkCornel:
How does tithing under the Mosaic Law as stated by Jesus in Matthew 23 v 23 apply to a non-Jew? Who was the Mosaic Law meant for?




Please mention one of the Mosaic Laws Jesus abolished when He was alive? Did Jesus speak against animal sacrifice or against circumcision?


Did man's knowledge of good and evil start with the Mosaic Law? Do you need the Mosaic Law to tell you incest was a taboo?
Did Jacob need to consult any Mosaic Law before cursing Reuben (anyways Reuben slept with his step-mother so it's not exactly incest, but the Mosaic Law equally forbade a son to sleep with his Father's wife e.g. step mother or blood mother)


Are you telling us what you think or actual facts on ground? Are we take your guess work as the fact here?


I'm not saying Jacob or Joseph was under any Mosaic Law, but this is the height of it all! How does a coat of many colors translate into a coat of mixed materials? Haba!


BY THE WAY, YOU ARE YET TO TELL US WHERE THIS MOSAIC LAW WAS DONE AWAY WITH IN THE SCRIPTURES!
Keeping tassels at the corners of your garment? Deutoronomy 22 v 11-12

How does justice, mercy and faith stated by Jesus concerning the law in Mathew 23:23 relate to a non-jew?

If we today can uphold justice, mercy and faith, which are depart of the law, why are we trashing tithe which Jesus mentioned in the same sentence?

He changed the law which states that an adultery should be stoned. That's why people no longer practice such again.

Jesus didn't speak against animal sacrifice and circimcission. But his disciples did.

Yes, you need the law to tell you that. Those that didn't have the law did it because they saw no sin in it. But when the law came, they now had the knowledge of sin.

Romans 4:15
Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Jacob was angry at Reuben as any man would when his wife is slept with by another person.

Coat of many colors or mixed materials, they still entail the same thing. Is it not mixed materials that are used to obtain the many colors in most cases?

Concerning the mosaic law of keeping tassles, that has been done away with. Below is Paul talking about how a Christian woman should dress. Since he never included keeping tassles, that means it has been done away with. If not, then the below would have been a perfect time to remind people of it.


1 Timothy 2:9-10
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

Lokoyen:
Still on this tithing issue?

Please no one is forced to pay tithes. Don't pay, leave others who feel comfortable to pay. Abi did they ask you for money!

many tithe payers have had a rethink through this media and stop paying.

By the grace of God we are educating more people so that they will stop paying and use their money for better things for themselves rather than ignorantly enriching pastors where they didnt work for .

For your info, i went to church today and i was impressed with what i saw.

The decline for tithe paying is enormous.

Praise the lord

paxonel:
many tithe payers have had a rethink through this media and stop paying.

By the grace of God we are educating more people so that they will stop paying and use their money for better things for themselves rather than ignorantly enriching pastors where they didnt work for

Please educate yourself and your ilk. Only tithers u convinced are the ones who don't know why they are paying or know what the bible says about tithes.

As for me and my family (extended family) we'll continue to pay tithe.

alBHAGDADI:
Please which church pays pastor from contributions of members? Is it not tithe money they use in running the church?

Don't make baseless claims. Buttress them with examples of churches which do such.

You are harsh with your words. Your over zealousness is getting you out of track. If you are born and brought up in a single church then i don't think you possess the knowledge of things going on in other churches. Besides, you understood me wrongly. I am a Christian, I am not condamning but I am only seeking to know. I just discovered that you are not friendly with words. Let's keep here please.

Lokoyen:
Please educate yourself and your ilk. Only tithers u convinced are the ones who don't know why they are paying or know what the bible says about tithes.

As for me and my family (extended family) we'll continue to pay tithe.

liar!
You stoped paying a long time ago you are only bragging

paxonel:
we all know that tithing was of an immense benefit to the old covenant as the presidings of tithing was meant for the priests or the leviticus tribe who were intermediate link between God and the israelites in those days.

How is tithing of benefit to christianity today?

Explain.

Was tithing only meant for the Leviticus priesthood alone? Was it not also meant for widows, orphans, the needy, strangers and also the tither who all eat out of it?

Don't we still have pastors who work in God's house like the Levites did, widows, orphans, strangers and even tithers today?

If people don't tithe, how will Christian be able to propagate the gospel with modern technology? You advocates of replacing tithing with freewill giving, how many times have you giving freely in the last six months? If that's the church is depending on, do you think it will still be standing today?

paxonel:
liar!
You stoped paying a long time ago you are only bragging

LOL! See this one! Better get something better doing! This issue of tithing will give you high Blood pressure!

OkCornel:
Since the Bible is silent on this,
Keeping tassels at the corners of your garment? Deutoronomy 22 v 11-12
Why aren't you doing it?


Why are you also silent on the fact that God clearly instructed tithers to eat out of their tithes? Deuteronomy 14 v 22-27

22 “You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 And you shall not neglect the Levite who is within your towns, for he has no portion or inheritance with you.


Where did God change the rules of tithe from food to money?

Sorry dude, the Bible is not silent on keeping tassles. Paul already discarded that part of the law when he spoke of now a Christian woman should dress on 1 Timothy 2:9-10. Since he never included keeping tassles, then it is done away with.

As for eating out of your tithe, didn't you read in the OP where I said churches do hold feast with tithe money which you eat out of ? Perhaps you didn't read the OP.

If tithing was never money, then what you are saying is that tithing was only a command to farmers. Was it food Abraham tithed to Melchizedek? Or where is it written that any mention of tithe has to do with food? Yes, we do know that food was most times mentioned, but it wasn't only food. Abraham gave tithe of the spoils of war which could include swords, shields, gold, crowns etc.

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alBHAGDADI:
Was tithing only meant for the Leviticus priesthood alone? Was it not also meant for widows, orphans, the needy, strangers and also the tither who all eat out of it?

Don't we still have pastors who work in God's house like the Levites did, widows, orphans, strangers and even tithers today?

If people don't tithe, how will Christian be able to propagate the gospel with modern technology? You advocates of replacing tithing with freewill giving, how many times have you giving freely in the last six months? If that's the church is depending on, do you think it will still be standing today?

show me in the old testament were tithe presidings were given to widows, orphans and strangers.

If that is what your church is using tithe money for, then that is never tithing.

You people are just playing