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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 10:01pm On Dec 19, 2018
elyte89:
U c...u re already taking it personal...abi sir Andrew Don dey lecture u grin?
Yes, Nacho might have a uniquely anatomically structured buccal cavity but the main thing is, his game is going (if it hasn't gone already) to the gutters.

Is it the coach? or nacho has lost confidence? or he just wasn't talented? or he has peaked already?

Time shall tell.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 10:04pm On Dec 19, 2018
komekn:
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We are products of our environment.

We worship the gods of money and we do anything to get it. Look at what people are prepared to do for money in Nigeria. Is there anything too low.

Football is simply a stepping stone to make money. Do they have true passion[b][/b]❓ Its open to never ending debate.
The footballers of today. I doubt they know what passion means.

As i said earlier, these guys are just happy to live in Oyibo land, marry and train kids there. Even f they go to Cyprus division 2.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 10:07pm On Dec 19, 2018
Loogan:
This guy bring a unique feeling of pride to me everytime hes talked about.
tactical intelligence.. technique.. Awereness/use of space... Strength... Unselfish... Ball retention. He has it all, This guy is getting better stats than pros.
Let the hyping begin....

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:09pm On Dec 19, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 10:13pm On Dec 19, 2018
Nigerians, firstly, have to compete FAIRLY within the country for us to be able to compete well internationally. If we don’t get things right at the home front we will never get to see our true potential.

Every state should make effort to PRODUCE and MOTIVATE athletes and show how much they have been successful at the NSF. Delta should be emulated.

There is no short cut to international success.
Princezibk:
Exactly what am saying, all i care is for them to keep searching for this talents and nurture them ehn... we need our names on global maps biko, am tired
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by cc12(m): 10:16pm On Dec 19, 2018
That's why am not in support of foreign born players,
they are short term fixes to long term problems.

darkelf:
Word bro.

Even with all the money between now and the WC, we will still bear witness to shambolic performance.

That was how they started throwing money to the Super Eagles with humongous sponsorship deals here and there but we all know how it panned out.

Truth is, you don't expect to change your football overnight when other countries have been growing for years and expect to be at par with them during major tourneys. You reap what you sow. If you didn't try to build your football from the grassroots and improve your league, na last you go still carry for world cup. If you like, organize all the friendly matches till thy kingdom come.

angry sad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Dannyxy(m): 10:17pm On Dec 19, 2018
Curtisaxel7:
No. Iheanacho can't go as a ball boy, he won't be able to trap the balls that go out of play na.

Maybe he can go as a cheerleader. Since his mouth is always open, he might well make good use of it. grin
oga this is in no way a constructive criticism, but a personal jab..

Keep the negativism to football matters, don't go personal..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:12pm On Dec 19, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
Puel about Iheanacho

“I think in his last game he was available between defenders a lot and he made many good runs behind the opponents’ line without receiving good service,”

“We need to improve our play between the attacking players and the midfield, to give a good pass in the right moment.

“For an attacking player or striker, they need good service. We can improve in this and we have progress to make.”
Thank you for this. It takes a foreigner to point this out while a lot of Nigerians spend time castigating instead of noting the challenges the young man is facing because of the system he is playing in.

If I was the one who stated this, many would be attacking me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:16pm On Dec 19, 2018
Curtisaxel7:
This is the exact type of mentality our players have. This "I cannot kill myself" kind of mentality. And that's what's ruining them. While thier counterparts from the rest of the world work thier socks off and push themselves through sweat and blood to the very highest peaks of football, our boys are content with getting a bench role at a backwater team in Europe, managing to score a few goals and then rushing off to China and Arabia the first chance they get. And what do we the fans do? We applaud thier meager achievements and encourage them to remain perennial underachievers!.

And that's why we are where we are today.

I believe in demanding the best from our players. AT ALL TIMES. If a player does badly, I wield the big stick. If he does well, I commend him while reminding him that there's still more he can achieve. Only by doing so can we really be true fans!.
A true fan sticks it out no matter what. Your definition is that of a plastic fan.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Famocious(m): 11:49pm On Dec 19, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Thank you for this. It takes a foreigner to point this out while a lot of Nigerians spend time castigating instead of noting the challenges the young man is facing because of the system he is playing in.

If I was the one who stated this, many would be attacking me.
I agree with you jare.. Leicester midfielders are not really creating a lot of scoring opportunities for their strikers.

We all can testify how great Vardy is banging goals every weekends undecided

In another news, Samuel Eduok was on target for Kasimpasa tonight in their 4-1win over M. Belediyespor
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:36am On Dec 20, 2018
junnyjake:
I saw your question, and knew he was gonna take the bait.

He's predictable like that. cool wink
I would say it's reverse bait.

Iwobi started reception in England that's essentially pre- school. Which means he was barely 4 years old and in the data systems of the UK.

One of the things you find in Western Europe is that everything is documented in multiple official sources. Your Gp records, your school, your dentist, medical all converge to corroborate.

Then his entire football history from grass root on documentatated to when he got into Arsenal football academy.

With regards to Iwobi his authenticity isn't based on personal integrity. It's easily officially corroborated at multiple official government sources.

I have actually lived in Benin before, and played informal football with quite a few former internationals.

And NO I will certainly not tell you there names.

I choose not to talk about VM my choice, just like I will not talk about Enobakhare another Edo born boy.

Let other Owie Edo boys talk him matter not me.

But the principle remains particularly as we don't rely on personal integrity to substantiate Iwobi age. It's all substantiated by official sources over the last 18 years.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:54am On Dec 20, 2018
Joebie:
Nigerians, firstly, have to compete FAIRLY within the country for us to be able to compete well internationally. If we don’t get things right at the home front we will never get to see our true potential.

Every state should make effort to PRODUCE and MOTIVATE athletes and show how much they have been successful at the NSF. Delta should be emulated.

There is no short cut to international success.
Agreed without one iota of reservation Bruv.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Diavolo: 5:31am On Dec 20, 2018
komekn:
I would say it's reverse bait.

Iwobi started reception in England that's essentially pre- school. Which means he was barely 4 years old and in the data systems of the UK.

One of the things you find in Western Europe is that everything is documented in multiple official sources. Your Gp records, your school, your dentist, medical all converge to corroborate.

Then his entire football history from grass root on documentatated to when he got into Arsenal football academy.

With regards to Iwobi his authenticity isn't based on personal integrity. It's easily officially corroborated at multiple official government sources.

I have actually lived in Benin before, and played informal football with quite a few former internationals.

And NO I will certainly not tell you there names.

I choose not to talk about VM my choice, just like I will not talk about Enobakhare another Edo born boy.

Let other Owie Edo boys talk him matter not me.

But the principle remains particularly as we don't rely on personal integrity to substantiate Iwobi age. It's all substantiated by official sources over the last 18 years.
ure still a comedian, just still not funny.
Going by ur usual logic, iwobi was born in Nigeria with no automatic birth capture records, but moved to the UK at a young age, meaning his age could have been reduced at the point of leaving for whatever reason by his parents, so making all the official corroborations in the UK wrong since it was built on a wrong info.
U say iwobis age isn't based on personal integrity, but since there are no automatic birth records to support his age as declared by his parents , so what is it based on??. Or u think because he left young his parents couldn't have been lying, and if you think so that means ur basing it on the personal integrity of his parents. You see ure the one that fell for the bait now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kentebemoney: 6:28am On Dec 20, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Thank you for this. It takes a foreigner to point this out while a lot of Nigerians spend time castigating instead of noting the challenges the young man is facing because of the system he is playing in.

If I was the one who stated this, many would be attacking me.
Bro if you watched the leicester vs tottenham game , in the first half kelechi made several run-ins but maddison was giving way too much side-ways pass and i tot the coach saw it and would address it only to change formation to 4-4-2 and make life easy for tottenham.

if i were claude puel i'll always play a classic 4-3-3

mendy ------iborra------ndidi

--------------maddison--------
--kelechi--------vardy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:44am On Dec 20, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
Puel about Iheanacho

“I think in his last game he was available between defenders a lot and he made many good runs behind the opponents’ line without receiving good service,”

“We need to improve our play between the attacking players and the midfield, to give a good pass in the right moment.

“For an attacking player or striker, they need good service. We can improve in this and we have progress to make.”
And puel will always refuse to play adrien Silvia who can flow passes ,too bad ,then suddenly the English media will call him a flop ,some coaches tire me ,I no no weda na personal problem ,a player bought for 27 million pounds and has been out of the squad for no reason
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:45am On Dec 20, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Thank you for this. It takes a foreigner to point this out while a lot of Nigerians spend time castigating instead of noting the challenges the young man is facing because of the system he is playing in.

If I was the one who stated this, many would be attacking me.
The Nigerians who castigate are the one who is hating.

Yes nacho is out of form it's simple and clear and it's normal in football but some peeps are throwing insults at the guy and taking it personal as if the guy stole their wife
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:49am On Dec 20, 2018
kentebemoney:
Bro if you watched the leicester vs tottenham game , in the first half kelechi made several run-ins but maddison was giving way too much side-ways pass and i tot the coach saw it and would address it only to change formation to 4-4-2 and make life easy for tottenham.

if i were claude puel i'll always play a classic 4-3-3

mendy ------iborra------ndidi

--------------maddison--------
--kelechi--------vardy
I wonder what mendy is doing there ,Ndidi already offers what mendy is offering

Puel still haven't give reason why he is not playing Adrien Silva
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:03am On Dec 20, 2018
elyte89:
U c...u re already taking it personal...abi sir Andrew Don dey lecture u grin?
Which one be sir Andrew dey lecture you grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:09am On Dec 20, 2018
Danielnino00:
But Iwobi was also born in Nigeria where there's no automatic data capture at birth...

So why don't u doubt his real age??
Has there been any rumors of Iwobi being an age cheat?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Diavolo: 9:45am On Dec 20, 2018
edi287:
Has there been any rumors of Iwobi being an age cheat?
no actually, and no one is doubting his age. He was only trying to point out the fallacy in komekn theory of every Nigerian player is an age cheat.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:38am On Dec 20, 2018
People will say I was talking nonsense but arsenal fans have started again with Iwobi. They want to blame him for the loss but he was nowhere near their worst player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:43am On Dec 20, 2018
edi287:
Has there been any rumors of Iwobi being an age cheat?
Have u heard any??

My question was directed to him cus he claims that any footballer born in Nigeria must be an age cheat cus there's no automatic data capture at birth...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:48am On Dec 20, 2018
Diavolo:
ure still a comedian, just still not funny.
Going by ur usual logic, iwobi was born in Nigeria with no automatic birth capture records, but moved to the UK at a young age, meaning his age could have been reduced at the point of leaving for whatever reason by his parents, so making all the official corroborations in the UK wrong since it was built on a wrong info.
U say iwobis age isn't based on personal integrity, but since there are no automatic birth records to support his age as declared by his parents , so what is it based on??. Or u think because he left young his parents couldn't have been lying, and if you think so that means ur basing it on the personal integrity of his parents. You see ure the one that fell for the bait now.
grin I knew he won't give a straight forwarded answer. He is having doubts over Moses age cus he is from Benin city(meanwhile Wikipedia says moses was born in Lagos )
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:55am On Dec 20, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Thank you for this. It takes a foreigner to point this out while a lot of Nigerians spend time castigating instead of noting the challenges the young man is facing because of the system he is playing in.

If I was the one who stated this, many would be attacking me.
Joe you know I agreed with you on this after the SA match but Rohr was wrong for telling the whole world that Nacho was struggling with his confidence. This was something that should have been handled personally. As we can see since then he has not contributed much to the team since then.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:20am On Dec 20, 2018
Diavolo:
ure still a comedian, just still not funny.
Going by ur usual logic, iwobi was born in Nigeria with no automatic birth capture records, but moved to the UK at a young age, meaning his age could have been reduced at the point of leaving for whatever reason by his parents, so making all the official corroborations in the UK wrong since it was built on a wrong info.
U say iwobis age isn't based on personal integrity, but since there are no automatic birth records to support his age as declared by his parents , so what is it based on??. Or u think because he left young his parents couldn't have been lying, and if you think so that means ur basing it on the personal integrity of his parents. You see ure the one that fell for the bait now.
Good morning lol � very funny you want to play devil's advocate.

In the first instance, the younger you are the harder it is to shave your age.

Secondly, people make an informed concerted decision
to cut thier age it's very rational. Why would anybody be cutting the age of a 1.5 year old baby. Unless you are extremely deranged and stupid which his parents are certainly not.

Let me explain further he got his first Nigerian passport when he was literally a baby. Before he went to Turkey. So essentially he has had international and national corroboration of his age from when he was about a year old. Or you expecting them to cut some months of his age. I know you could think that way.

A few years later JJay came to Bolton and arranged for some members of his extended family to come to London. That was when l first saw them his family and then Iwobi who was about 5/6 years old.

So it's a very poor example because l also have personal corroboration.

Do you have anything else to say❓you deh make me laff, no be small
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:11pm On Dec 20, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:20pm On Dec 20, 2018
Danielnino00:
Have u heard any??

My question was directed to him cus he claims that any footballer born in Nigeria must be an age cheat cus there's no automatic data capture at birth...
Sometimes l wonder d kind school were some people go. Because it is quite obvious that they have. But then again you wonder.

Please no vex, quote me verbatim not by your self birthed perception or by conjecture.

When did l sayhuh ❓ Any footballer born in Nigeria is an age cheat huh huh

Let me be intrinsically clear, what I have said is, Because there is no governmental official structure for AUTOMATIC BIRTH DATA CAPTURE it impossible to officially substantiate and or verify age in Nigeria

You have to rely on the integrity of individuals, that's the undiluted fact.

Attention to detail is imperative before making a substantive deduction and or allegation. U just deh talk anyhow haba !!! .

Where have l said, the bold anybody born in Nigeria is an age cheat.huh ❓ please quote me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:24pm On Dec 20, 2018
Diavolo:
no actually, and no one is doubting his age. He was only trying to point out the fallacy in komekn theory of every Nigerian player is an age cheat.


Misrepresentation.

Please state where l said the bold.

You have birthed that notion from yourself, please be more substantive don't just pick out ideas from the sky and place them on someone.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:33pm On Dec 20, 2018
Unconfirmed report reaching me has it that CAF has launched its nations league.... grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:43pm On Dec 20, 2018
komekn:
Sometimes l wonder d kind school were some people go. Because it is quite obvious that they have. But then again you wonder.

Please no vex, quote me verbatim not by your self birthed perception or by conjecture.

When did l sayhuh ❓ Any footballer born in Nigeria is an age cheat huh huh

Let me be intrinsically clear, what I have said is, Because there is no governmental official structure for AUTOMATIC BIRTH DATA CAPTURE it impossible to officially substantiate and or verify age in Nigeria

You have to rely on the integrity of individuals, that's the undiluted fact.

Attention to detail is imperative before making a substantive deduction and or allegation. U just deh talk anyhow haba !!! .

Where have l said, the bold anybody born in Nigeria is an age cheat.huh ❓ please quote me.
I thought you were a professor of English language... how did u miss the "must" in my post eh?

The highlighted words below are enough proof already.

Let me be intrinsically clear, what I have said is, Because there is no governmental official structure for AUTOMATIC BIRTH DATA CAPTURE it impossible to officially substantiate and or verify age in Nigeria
You are indirectly telling us that any player born in Nigeria is a suspect of age cheat cus the automatic data capture at birth,(which according to you is the major evidence to determine somebody's age) is missing in Nigeria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:45pm On Dec 20, 2018
Hey Chriskels ...Your beloved Ivory Coast is in the second division of the rumoured CAF nations league grin
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