SternProphet:

50kg bag of IMPORTED rice subsidized by fake high oil prices was NOT food on the table. That was eating your children's future. You guys are a bunch of shallow rank amateurs. You think economics is kid stuff. They were looting your country and throwing you crumbs. "Bag of rice was 8000 Naira". They killed the entire rice population of rice farmers in Nigeria. 22million, that is the exact population of new rice farmers now.
Fxxking empty middle class Nigerians living in three major cities thinking they are the real Nigerians.
You people should prepare for a shocker. That China, the PDP VP was alluding to, you will learn that 15 years ago an 18 year old Chinese worker at an Addidas factory had a monthly wage not up to the price of one Addidas shoe.
There is no gain without pain. Nigeria is growing up.

It's amazing g the number of Nigerian educated young people buying into PDP's sham because they don't know better. Why don't you go work abroad for a whilr and see life.

PDP legacy - Agric - ZERO
Steel - ZERO
Infrastructure - ZERO
Education - ZERO
Security - ZERO

They kept 20 million idiots in mega cities of Lagos, PHC, Abuja who call themselves middle class happy with imported rice, petrol and generators. Idiots thought they were going placed and living life.

More sperm to ur sperm sack

Please let's leave the economy and political agenda. Let's stick to our military discussion and posting of pictures.

iblawi:
misinformed man.

I will definitely not fight a pig in the mud.

When did the 1st and 2nd happen?

You better come back to Nigeria to get good info.

Actually it's obvious to all who's mudslinging here.

I coined the term The Buharist. It is now pervasive by people like you whose emotions blind them to the facts. Emotions can't tell fiction from facts, impossible.

Mr Buharist I live in Nigeria. An objective assessment devoid of ethnic and religious sentiments is that things are worse off now than they were 4 years ago. And this cuts across all sectors of the economy which affects both rich and poor. I hear your cousin talking of an economy that benefits the rich in urban centers forgetting that if private enterprise is allowed to thrive with the right governmental policies it drives growth across board which translates to more money in the pocket and with more money in the pocket people's spending power increases which in turn translates to better living standards that contributes positively to your human development index(HDI) something which has collapsed across the board under this administration. A commoner once told me "we have since past this stage of hunger in Nigeria" referring to how bad things are in Nigeria under Buhari. You want the reality go on the street and find out the facts not rant here on nairaland without any evidence to back up your claims rather condescend to bitter insults.

That a recession happened twice in Nigeria is a fact and happened under the leadership of Muhammadu Buhari as Head of State and President. That tells the mentality of the man. Six months into this administration I publicly stated I'll never talk again about this government because it will amount to nothing. And I was proven right. You are living an Alice in Wonderland Story if you delude yourself further.

In the current Nigeria my personal support to certain families have increased because of joblessness thus affecting my own estate. You think sentiments make great nations! Nigeria will forever be a moribund state because of people like you who will support mediocrity over competence because of the language a man speaks. Look at the analysis following Peter Obi and Yemi Osinbajo debates and you see ethnicity coming to the fore from those defending different positions when everyone knows clearly who won that debate.

Don't tell me about economic matters as clearly you know nothing. Right now as we speak there's no electricity and that alone is enough reason not to vote the man back in power that's how it's done in saner climes. A people is only as good as its leadership. You get what you vote in and don't come complaining rather make a change at the next balloting and be free.

Whatever Legacy Buhari has today has a PDP foundation...PMB has failed Nigerians

SternProphet:

50kg bag of IMPORTED rice subsidized by fake high oil prices was NOT food on the table. That was eating your children's future. You guys are a bunch of shallow rank amateurs. You think economics is kid stuff. They were looting your country and throwing you crumbs. "Bag of rice was 8000 Naira". They killed the entire rice population of rice farmers in Nigeria. 22million, that is the exact population of new rice farmers now.
Fxxking empty middle class Nigerians living in three major cities thinking they are the real Nigerians.
You people should prepare for a shocker. That China, the PDP VP was alluding to, you will learn that 15 years ago an 18 year old Chinese worker at an Addidas factory had a monthly wage not up to the price of one Addidas shoe.
There is no gain without pain. Nigeria is growing up.

It's amazing g the number of Nigerian educated young people buying into PDP's sham because they don't know better. Why don't you go work abroad for a whilr and see life.

PDP legacy - Agric - ZERO
Steel - ZERO
Infrastructure - ZERO
Education - ZERO
Security - ZERO

They kept 20 million idiots in mega cities of Lagos, PHC, Abuja who call themselves middle class happy with imported rice, petrol and generators. Idiots thought they were going placed and living life.

All paid for and foundations set by PDP....always remember to put that Mr. ITK

iblawi:


Please help me tell them we can't pull down a bungalow and build a duplex overnight. The process of building anything takes time.

This is the same buhari that almost completed 4 standard gauge rail in less than 4years. (Abuja -kaduna,warri - ajaokuta, Abuja metro and Lagos - Ibadan SGR).

The same buhari have put 2 out of 4 international airports back to shape. Port-Harcourt airport received a completely new design and Abuja airport was expanded.

Several jobs were created for for farmers within their localities and for the first time people are getting richer In their localities without coming to Abuja Or Lagos.

Same buhari reduce importation of food items allowing local farmers to have better share of the market.

Same buhari reduce monthly import from over $5 billion to $1.9 billion making it easier for us to save up more foreign reserve.

Same Buhari that is bringing back inland water ways

Mining sector have have improved and revenue have increased by over 500%.

Single treasury have seriously reduced corruption in civil service and many thief's are screaming.

Withdrew several licences from corrupt individual both in oil and non oil sectors

Bags of rice might have increased but there are several advantages of having your people producing a good share of what you consume. Our textile industries died because of importation from China. Leather industries died cod of importation, same is happening to palm oil, wheat and sugar. Most we continue this way?

This list can go on but let me not disturb this thread cos this topic is not just meant for this place. Those that want to remain blind can keep closing their eyes.

Your man said there was nothing like subsidy...yet today he is paying more than what GEJ paid...That is first class hypocrisy...He should apologise to GEJ

iblawi:


This is the most uneducated stuff I will read in recent times. When an educated person is comparing BTW 2 thing he should give figure from both sides and nort from one side.

Subsidies on fuel brings more stability to economy at this fragile moment. It was a necessary move in other to have control of other sectors. Instability in oil price affect every sector from transport to agriculture, mining, etc. Stability in price of petrol affect every Nigerian so please don't compare it with subsidies on rice.

Olam rice milling plant was the biggest in Africa and the only major investment in rice production in Nigeria under GEJ. Today, several hundreds of smaller milling plant have been set up under buhari not to talk of the bigger plants. Success of any economy is not dependent on large companies but the small and medium industrial players. Buhari was able to achieve this and the current rice output from our farms speaks volumes. To make this easier for you to comprehend, just minus the capacity of the OLAM plant from the total figure available currently or use last year's figures.

You claim 2018 was the worst year for herder and farmer clash? Why provide only recent figure? Where is 2000-2014 figures? You won't provide them because they weren't available. All this report started coming out because buhari was not bribing media houses and religious organisation like GEJ/PDP govt. This shows how open the current president is. Just tell me there were no clashes under Jonathan? Or simply tell us the figures in the past 2 months if you feel nothing was done about it.

I will cover my head in shame if I were you. A govt. Without any completed project borrow as much as 11trillion while a govt with several completed projects with others at various level of completion borrowed just 13 trillion. Do you think you should even be comparing them? Can you mention any completed infrastructure project under Jonathan? Everything they borrowed were looted and money from everything they privatised were equally looted.

On the issue of employment under Jonathan, please tell us if people actually have jobs? Everyone set up companies to collect govt contracts that govt already overemployed people to do. Please tell us what value they added to the economy of this country? Everything built on false crumbles too fast and that was the exact thing that happened. Under buhari millions of farmer have jobs and revenue from solid minerals sector have increased by 500%. These are real jobs the people can sustain not employment that add no value to the country /economy as a whole.

Discussion on economy is not for shallow thinkers. Please stay away from it.

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SternProphet:


I won't see you anywhere. You guys are local and lack depth. You call the period 1999 to 2015 an Eldorado. It's a shame. I have lived and worked on three continents.
Your country was a mess.
Only Buhari has the guts and heart to do the brutal things necessary. And it's going to hurt. Better that than corrupt weaklings who can't lead. There is no country as permissive and soft on the elite like Nigeria. Everything will change when Buhari does not need all the corrupt jokers in his second term

Pls tell them oooo, it must hurt to get better

The Ajban 440 A Another version of the Nimr II built locally in algeria shown this days.

Pic 3 nimr II

I am aghast how shallow minded people are and what short memories. If you guys continue with this APC PDP nonsense, the country is doomed. Look for fresh talent.

Algerian1:
The Ajban 440 A Another version of the Nimr II built locally in algeria shown this days.

Pic 3 nimr II

Beautiful!

Nigerian Air Force NAF 476 in Nigeria

kenpaul0:
All paid for and foundations set by PDP....always remember to put that Mr. ITK

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Common guy we both know u av u dig up the old foundation 4 u to build something bigger n better, that's why it must hurt b4 it gets better

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Aircraft maintance in Nigeria

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SternProphet:


A leader gets to work immediately but it takes 4 years to build a factory or a major expressway, six years to improve the educational standard of a generation.

It is defective thinking, mercantilist, cash and carry approach to life that thinks getting to work is the same as getting magical results. Look at Lagos Ibadan railway, look at Niger bridge, look at Mambila plateau. Furious work going on.

You are even talking about military. The military gave Nigeria Abuja, Ajaokuta, Aladja steel, Petrochemical plant, Refineries. Gowon built the largest network of expressways in Africa in the 70s. What did these degenerate, inferior and unintelligent PDP people do in 16 years.
They tried to sell everything and even that they did stupidly.

PDP is exactly what the black mans failure looks like. Please marry your Saraki, Dino and Atiku.You deserve them.
This country will not go back to trash.

When OBJ got to work we saw results we could hold on to within 3 years. We saw the ICT revolution which lifted millions out of poverty almost immediately. Your own getting to work is causing increased unemployment, hunger and insecurity as we can see from latest figures released like the NBS statistics.

Una don turn this thing into the British House of Commons.
All we need is thread related contents, not these forth and back. Jeez

Trucks built locally by daimler mercedes algeria for army

For T55 , 72 tank driver's license

When you have only a mirage F1 for umbrella

Marakech air show , moroccan AF

The first KingAir 350ER "CN-TMR" was delivered to the Royal Moroccan Navy few days ago

There is reports about 150 first BMPT "Terminator" delivred soon to algerian army .

In the contract signed : there was delivry of 150 for 2018 and 150 for 2019

Maduawuchukwu:


When OBJ got to work we saw results we could hold on to within 3 years. We saw the ICT revolution which lifted millions out of poverty almost immediately. Your own getting to work is causing increased unemployment, hunger and insecurity as we can see from latest figures released like the NBS statistics.

It is your low standard of education that is making you think this way. OBJ did not do jack for GSM.
Nigeria was already getting GSM from Abacha era.
GSM came from global corporate market entry strategies by ECONET, MTN and so on. They visit ignorant people that you worship called politicians convince them with brochures and get support. That's how a company's market entry starts,

Even if a monkey was in Aso Rock, GSM would have come.

IGNORANCE !!!
To say that OBJ brought improvement in IT penetration. The most clueless statement OBJ ever made in his life was on the importance of IT. The guy had no clue. He said he had no interest in the internet and the only downloading he was interested in was downloading "into people's stomachs". It was widely reported in the papers.
Maybe your education groomed you to worship politicians and praise them for the technical vision, inventiveness and entrepreneurship of others but that is an inferior state of existence.

You need to stop these immature lies about the PDP being a party of smart, competent but corrupt people. They are corrupt alright but they are not smart. They did nothing in government for 16 years. The Western countries who were supporting them turned against them. They killed their own party members. And finally they lost the last elections.

As we speak now that party has no intellectual arm.
Their manifesto is 50% of APC's in different wordings and the stupid idea about selling NNPC.
If they want to criticise the APC govt today it would be FFK, Fayose, Bruce or Reno tweeting or saying things that a low IQ secondary school student would be ashamed to say.

The party can't even make up its mind about Jubril Al Sudaini....but they still listened to his budget speech and booed him as Muhammadu Buhari anyway.
Stupid party.
The Nigerians with real brains are looking at ACPN, YPP and others for quality opposition

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It is your low standard of education that is making you think this way. OBJ did not do jack for GSM.
Nigeria was already getting GSM from Abacha era.
GSM came from global corporate market entry strategies by ECONET, MTN and so on. They visit ignorant people that you worship called politicians convince them with brochures and get support. That's how a company's market entry starts,

Even if a monkey was in Aso Rock, GSM would have come.

IGNORANCE !!!
To say that OBJ brought improvement in IT penetration. The most clueless statement OBJ ever made in his life was on the importance of IT. The guy had no clue. He said he had no interest in the internet and the only downloading he was interested in was downloading "into people's stomachs". It was widely reported in the papers.
Maybe your education groomed you to worship politicians and praise them for the technical vision, inventiveness and entrepreneurship of others but that is an inferior state of existence.

You need to stop these immature lies about the PDP being a party of smart, competent but corrupt people. They are corrupt alright but they are not smart. They did nothing in government for 16 years. The Western countries who were supporting them turned against them. They killed their own party members. And finally they lost the last elections.

As we speak now that party has no intellectual arm.
Their manifesto is 50% of APC's in different wordings and the stupid idea about selling NNPC.
If they want to criticise the APC govt today it would be FFK, Fayose, Bruce or Reno tweeting or saying things that a low IQ secondary school student would be ashamed to say.

The party can't even make up its mind about Jubril Al Sudaini....but they still listened to his budget speech and booed him as Muhammadu Buhari anyway.
Stupid party.
The Nigerians with real brains are looking at AC.PN, YPP and others for quality opposition[/quote

OBJ deserves no credit as GSM was sure to enter Naija?
Then why did Nigeria which has Africa's largest market get it almost ten years after smaller countries like Ghana? Did the telecomms not want to make money from our market all these while? Oboy accuse with wisdom which should come with ur age abeg.

Algerian1:
There is reports about 150 first BMPT "Terminator" delivred soon to algerian army .

In the contract signed : there was delivry of 150 for 2018 and 150 for 2019

Interesting! IIRC, the few fielded in Syria didn't perform as expected though if you have contrary info I'm all ears.

SternProphet:


It is your low standard of education that is making you think this way. OBJ did not do jack for GSM.
Nigeria was already getting GSM from Abacha era.
GSM came from global corporate market entry strategies by ECONET, MTN and so on. They visit ignorant people that you worship called politicians convince them with brochures and get support. That's how a company's market entry starts,

Even if a monkey was in Aso Rock, GSM would have come.

IGNORANCE !!!
To say that OBJ brought improvement in IT penetration. The most clueless statement OBJ ever made in his life was on the importance of IT. The guy had no clue. He said he had no interest in the internet and the only downloading he was interested in was downloading "into people's stomachs". It was widely reported in the papers.
Maybe your education groomed you to worship politicians and praise them for the technical vision, inventiveness and entrepreneurship of others but that is an inferior state of existence.

You need to stop these immature lies about the PDP being a party of smart, competent but corrupt people. They are corrupt alright but they are not smart. They did nothing in government for 16 years. The Western countries who were supporting them turned against them. They killed their own party members. And finally they lost the last elections.

As we speak now that party has no intellectual arm.
Their manifesto is 50% of APC's in different wordings and the stupid idea about selling NNPC.
If they want to criticise the APC govt today it would be FFK, Fayose, Bruce or Reno tweeting or saying things that a low IQ secondary school student would be ashamed to say.

The party can't even make up its mind about Jubril Al Sudaini....but they still listened to his budget speech and booed him as Muhammadu Buhari anyway.
Stupid party.
The Nigerians with real brains are looking at ACPN, YPP and others for quality opposition

He had no idea about ICT but he created the system that made it work. Obama has zero idea about rocketery but he made the system favourable for the development of renewable space travel... We don't need people that have all the ideas. we need the one's that will give those that have the ideas the chance to work.

Arabique:
He had no idea about ICT but he created the system that made it work. Obama has zero idea about rocketery but he made the system favourable for the development of renewable space travel... We don't need people that have all the ideas. we need the one's that will give those that have the ideas the chance to work.

System!!!! smh

Algerian1:
There is reports about 150 first BMPT "Terminator" delivred soon to algerian army .

In the contract signed : there was delivry of 150 for 2018 and 150 for 2019

How are you guys going to pay since Russia is under sanctions?

barineh:


How are you guys going to pay since Russia is under sanctions?

Algerian gouvernments have shown historically that they doesn't care about the opignion of the big fishes of the world for our international and national policy , so there is no.country that can tell algeria what to do or not especially for its relation with its closest ally Russia . so if needed , yes im sur they will sign new contract with russia .

Even as for this bmpt Terminator contract , it was signed in 2016 . so trumpy can do nothing .

Algerian1:



Algerian gouvernments have shown historically that they doesn't care about the opignion of the big fishes of the world for our international and national policy , so there is no.country that can tell algeria what to do or not especially for its relation with its closest ally Russia . so if needed , yes im sur they will sign new contract with russia .

Even as for this bmpt Terminator contract , it was signed in 2016 . so trumpy can do nothing .

How do you pay Russia was the question?. Are you going to pay in commodities?. Russia has oil and gas, so what commodities are you going to use? Very few banks can get involved in any processing payments to Russia.

Covert1:


Actually it's obvious to all who's mudslinging here.

I coined the term The Buharist. It is now pervasive by people like you whose emotions blind them to the facts. Emotions can't tell fiction from facts, impossible.

Mr Buharist I live in Nigeria. An objective assessment devoid of ethnic and religious sentiments is that things are worse off now than they were 4 years ago. And this cuts across all sectors of the economy which affects both rich and poor. I hear your cousin talking of an economy that benefits the rich in urban centers forgetting that if private enterprise is allowed to thrive with the right governmental policies it drives growth across board which translates to more money in the pocket and with more money in the pocket people's spending power increases which in turn translates to better living standards that contributes positively to your human development index(HDI) something which has collapsed across the board under this administration. A commoner once told me "we have since past this stage of hunger in Nigeria" referring to how bad things are in Nigeria under Buhari. You want the reality go on the street and find out the facts not rant here on nairaland without any evidence to back up your claims rather condescend to bitter insults.

That a recession happened twice in Nigeria is a fact and happened under the leadership of Muhammadu Buhari as Head of State and President. That tells the mentality of the man. Six months into this administration I publicly stated I'll never talk again about this government because it will amount to nothing. And I was proven right. You are living an Alice in Wonderland Story if you delude yourself further.

In the current Nigeria my personal support to certain families have increased because of joblessness thus affecting my own estate. You think sentiments make great nations! Nigeria will forever be a moribund state because of people like you who will support mediocrity over competence because of the language a man speaks. Look at the analysis following Peter Obi and Yemi Osinbajo debates and you see ethnicity coming to the fore from those defending different positions when everyone knows clearly who won that debate.

Don't tell me about economic matters as clearly you know nothing. Right now as we speak there's no electricity and that alone is enough reason not to vote the man back in power that's how it's done in saner climes. A people is only as good as its leadership. You get what you vote in and don't come complaining rather make a change at the next balloting and be free.

BIG LIES popping.

I keep saying the median IQ in Nigeria is low that is why people pass on FALSEHOOD like a relay race.. They told you Buhari caused recession twice and you just brainlessly repeated it.
What is a "recession" and what does the word "cause" mean?. A recession is three quarters of negative GDP growth and it is usually not caused by the administration voted in to solve the problem.

2014 recession cause = PDP (Goodluck Jonathan)


Buhari caused no recession in 1983.
NPN caused the recession of 1983.
No knowledgeable person is denying it. We were saddled with short term debt by NPN looters and suddenly oil price came down to $9 a barrel. Banks were not honouring our L/Cs. One NPN minister (Umaru Dikko) was responsible for bringing imported rice into Nigeria in a value equal to the entire foreign exchange earnings for 6 months.

All petroleum exporting countries felt the shock of oil price crash . The situation that caused 1983 economic recession for Nigeria was the same as in we saw in 2014 - an import dependent economy, a weak and stupid President in power, looting by members of the ruling party and BOOM.. poverty.

1983 recession cause = NPN (Shehu Shagari)

Nigeria has an economy dependent on one international product. That is the problem.
We know Buhari has improved AGRO exports by 300% and is bringing down rice imports.
What will also help is massive INFRASTRUCTURE construction being done that will not only improve internal economic efficiency but also bring service sector jobs. Railways, their terminals and connecting transportation is a good example of service sector jobs. The great danger us that technology is wiping out jobs globally. All jobs are under threat.
If you want to solve Nigeria's problem, do public infrastructure and get a lot of small holders doing farming.

Atiku and his crooked/scared shitless team (They are all owing banks or have EFCC cases) don't just have a clue.

If I build a factory today, it will take 10 times LESS manpower than three years ago. Technology is wiping out jobs fast.Jobs are dying. Jobs are dying. Jobs are dying. Get your heads screwed on right.

For you office bound, semi idle, non innovative urban dwelling middle class, your problems are many and it is NOT Buhari.
You need paradigm shift.
Artificial Iintelligence is here and your job will disappear. Not may dusappear, WILL DISAPPEAR.
It is not an insidious threat. It will suddenly happen and the global billionaires pouring money into the Industry 4.0 technologies, AI, et.c don't give a damn that you were too weak to feed yourselves under PDP or run your scrappy refineries.

THERE IS A LARGER, MORE OMINOUS GLOBAL CONTEXT THAT WILL DEVELOP BETWEEN 2021 UPWARDS.

I see nothing in PDP manifesto about re-skilling, about small holder agric, small holder AGRO processing, renewable energy. They want to repeat the mistake of 2010 in 2019. It will hurt.

Everybody use your head. We are already seeing that tradesmen - auto mechanics, electricians and plumbers are doing better than office-based, fixed income pen pushers who can no longer steal money due to Buhari reforms but from 2021, even that your job is going.

A courageous, truth seeking person eill see that all Buhari is doing is setting the economy on a sound footing with some temporary hardship. He himself has admitted that there is hardship. My addition to that is whoever taught you there is progress without hardship has destroyed your life.

It's an amusing thing that some Nigerians are now beginning to criticize claims with dialectics.

When a man makes claims of how food stability, economy, employment, security, health etc have gotten better under him when it is well evident that this is just not false, it is also diametrically opposing to the reports from local and international monitoring agencies, then you realize that you are the subject of state funded propaganda, alternative facts and outright falsehoods.

If not for the Ambassador of Thailand to Nigeria, who refuted the rice claims, Audu Ogbeh would have had us believe that Nigeria had produced so much rice, many rice mills in Thailand had packed up. Claims as this and many others differ from records, such as the FAO's.

If you have any premium for your education, you will research every claim you are battered with, whether it confirms your preconceived bias or not.

Good luck Nigeria, you will surely need it.