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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by dallyemmy: 3:19pm On Dec 22, 2018
Zeal without knowledge

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by dominusgai(m): 3:21pm On Dec 22, 2018
duni04:

Bros the EFCC has really tightened it's noose around bankers and the banking sector. Nobody can move money freely like used to obtain before. And in response to this, criminals and politicians have devised dubious ways of beating the system. One of them is to hide behind legitimate cash transfers between banks and use their couriers to transfer this money.
These guys may be genuine staff of bankers warehouse but I'm 100% sure they were carrying out an illegal transfer using paraphelenia of bankers warehouse and Union bank. That's probably why they didn't present documents to validate the transfer.

Bro, they did present documents, EFCC just refused to investigate those documents.

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by duni04(m): 3:23pm On Dec 22, 2018
dominusgai:


Hmm, I take it you have never been arrested. Cos I have seen police arrest a group of boys just closing from evening service. Everyone around the boys where shouting to the police men that the boys were just coming out of the church. They were even telling the police to go confirm from the pastors, but the police men refused and took them to the station and asked for bail of #20,000 each. It was after a visit from about 8 lawyers from that were members of the church did they release the boys without a dime. And the police men that arrested them were nowhere to be found to answer if they investigated the shout of over 20 members who said the boys where just coming from the church.

I can tell you that EFCC did not investigate their documents. First of all, such investigation will take more than 24 hrs, but less than 24 hrs efcc released a press statement. Secondly, EFCC even acknowledged that the people told them of their affiliation with union bank and that was still under investigation.

EFCC should not have held a press conference this early into the investigation.
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/302426-union-bank-claims-ownership-of-n1-billion-recovered-by-efcc-at-enugu-airport.html
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by 4ckTOTO: 3:28pm On Dec 22, 2018
but why will u carry that amount without securiity

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by arrestdarrester: 3:28pm On Dec 22, 2018
CoolAmbience:
EFCC must do it job. Cash movement or not.

These are elections times. We are talking billion(s) here.




And so what? Why not conclude your investigation before deciding on media trial?

Nonsense show of ineptitude.

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by ojuu4u(m): 3:30pm On Dec 22, 2018
WaffenSS:
Union Bank is primitive

In a nation prone to theft and illicit dollar transactions including money laundering, you still went ahead and engaged scruffy looking civilians to move around millions of dollars so casually.

If the transaction was not dubious the EFCC would've been well informed.

This is election season. We all remember how a certain minister moved billions in 2 airplanefull flights to Ekiti.

There has to be a better way of moving cash, not this caveman and suspicious approach.



Read the whole episode again BF u comment, stop being a fault-finder, they tendered all documents, Efcc can make a call log to snr management of the bank they refused that but resulted to do Media trial,



Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by dominusgai(m): 3:31pm On Dec 22, 2018
WaffenSS:


Please

You're better than this line of poor reasoning

In sane countries cash is moved in armored boxes secured in the holds of planes and accompanied by uniformed and accredited guards.

How is this emblematic of the 21st century?

We demand progress and compare ourselves to the US at the drop of a hat, but we excuse such shoddy arrangements simply because we love anything that allows us to blame the government.

Why didn't Union Bank notify the EFCC with legal documents BEFORE embarking on their misadventure?

Clearly even the airline is not aware of this arrangement.

This is dubious and absolutely unprofessional for a major bank.

I do agree with you. But the aim of banking like any other business is to maximize profit.

As it is not yet a law that the method you mentioned must be used, and the fact that robbing a plane is next to impossible, no bank in Nigeria would want to move money the way you mentioned above when they can do that with trackable and trusted couriers for one fifth or one tenth of the cost.

And if EFCC had proposed a bill to make this method of money transfer by bank illegal, they would have had no issue exposing them. But as of now, there is no law that makes transferring money within Nigeria through whatever means illegal, only attempted transfer of money internationally is illegal.

They were wrong. They should have done proper investigation. Most cash transfers are actually done in emergency. Look at the time they arrested them, 7pm, meaning the bank most likely gathered the cash at least 5pm and would have needed it in the branch by 8am. What EFCC office is open by 7am?

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by CoolAmbience(m): 3:32pm On Dec 22, 2018
arrestdarrester:


And so what? Why not conclude your investigation before deciding on media trial?

Nonsense show of ineptitude.


What is this ignorance about media trial?

The media doesn't conduct trials....the 'concept' makes no sense at all. Is the media the court?
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by CoolAmbience(m): 3:35pm On Dec 22, 2018
Ayed44:
Yes! EFCC must do its job. But let EFCC conduct investigation first before parading as criminals.


They paraded suspects not criminals?

Isn't it worse off that you call them criminals already?

We seem to have a case of kettle calling pot ......
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by ositadima1(m): 3:35pm On Dec 22, 2018
WaffenSS:
Union Bank is primitive

In a nation prone to theft and illicit dollar transactions including money laundering, you still went ahead and engaged scruffy looking civilians to move around millions of dollars so casually.

If the transaction was not dubious the EFCC would've been well informed.

This is election season. We all remember how a certain minister moved billions in 2 airplanefull flights to Ekiti.

There has to be a better way of moving cash, not this caveman and suspicious approach.




That is the problem with you people, what has the way they look have to do with the situation at hand? It was very clear EFCC was lazy in the way the went about it. Last time I checked most Nigerians look like that.

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by alezzy13: 3:37pm On Dec 22, 2018
ositadima1:


That is the problem with you people, what has the way they look have to do with the situation at hand? It was very clear EFCC was lazy in the way the went about it. Last time I checked most Nigerians look like that.


Is THAT the way you look? I'm not like that ooo
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by ositadima1(m): 3:41pm On Dec 22, 2018
alezzy13:


Is THAT the way you look? I'm not like that ooo

Hit the streets and see for your self.

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by frank41(m): 3:43pm On Dec 22, 2018
KillTheZombies:


Use whatever is remaining of your empty skull. The movement was between Enugu and Lagos not international.

Why are dumbohari zombies so illiterate and demented?

Who swear give una?


That's a curse and i do not deserve that. Just be a gentle guy if that's not too much to ask.
thanks.
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by Charly68: 4:01pm On Dec 22, 2018
Magu will get to the bottom of the matter..nobody should bring in sentiment on the matter. The efcc men should do their jobs thoroughly but avoid media propaganda ..it is their results that will announce them
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by Nobelwinner: 4:04pm On Dec 22, 2018
Amen oooooooo

NORSIYK:


Receive sense
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by NessaBoo(f): 4:05pm On Dec 22, 2018
ericsmith:




No be these country we dey zenith staffs fly jet loaded with dollars to fayose ...the fact that they are bank staff or from bank is the problem ... i think efcc are only been suspicious of such money are been moved for political campaigns.
if union bank have nothing to hide let efcc do there investigation ... there money will surely come back to them .... the only time nigerians wonnt say or think witch hunt is wen efcc naps a G boy... even ur neibors are happy but they will be crying for saraki or ganduje

If the money comes back to them, how about the reputation? There's a saying, that a good name is better than gold and silver.

They have smeared the image, and tainted the character of those people without finding them guilty by a court of appropriate jurisdiction. A simple background check of those people has been enmeshed in corrupt and money laundry practices, How do you think that fairs on a prospective employer??

Please, EFCC were clearly hasty without doing full investigation.

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by dominusgai(m): 4:07pm On Dec 22, 2018
CoolAmbience:



What is this ignorance about media trial?

The media doesn't conduct trials....the 'concept' makes no sense at all. Is the media the court?




Bro, media can influence the decision or backlash received during and after a court ruling. It influences the decision of the juries, and do you know how hard it is to convince the public a man is innocent after the media has portrayed him as guilty? Life is made much more difficult for them

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by calberian: 4:08pm On Dec 22, 2018
Mos def. Those guys can't work with bw ever again!

Nwodosis:
They have ended up exposing these guys to the society full of crimes! The bad ones will be trailing them and studying them when there will be movement of money.

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by Ayed44: 4:15pm On Dec 22, 2018
CoolAmbience:



They paraded suspects not criminals?

Isn't it worse off that you call them criminals already?

We seem to have a case of kettle calling pot ......
Why parading people before investigation?
When the people u paraded turn out to be innocent, what will happen to their reputation?

Do u know that those people the EFCC foolishly paraded yesterday on this issue have lost their job forever?

Think!

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by kingigwe1: 4:20pm On Dec 22, 2018
CoolAmbience:
EFCC must do it job. Cash movement or not.

These are elections times. We are talking billion(s) here.



poverty is not good. Try and make money. Billion is what. Is head panining u. Move out of poverty. Try ur best

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by adelacuna(m): 4:23pm On Dec 22, 2018
Government agent really need to stop acting stupid with their service why go public when you haven't confirmed your information, making those guys looks like criminals, do they need to be schooled that BW is licensed to do CIT service.

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by adelacuna(m): 4:27pm On Dec 22, 2018
Charly68:
Magu will get to the bottom of the matter..nobody should bring in sentiment on the matter. The efcc men should do their jobs thoroughly but avoid media propaganda ..it is their results that will announce them
What do you mean with your statement Sir, no one is stopping EFCC or whosoever to do its job but why parading them in public as criminals when you haven't done any intelligent drill on the operation

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by Felixv: 4:35pm On Dec 22, 2018
Built2last:
Meaning that EFCC In a bid to appear to be working went ahead to blow the identity of These guys after presenting ID, with letter of conveyance.

All over the world cash moves from bank to bank and state to state. And it is mostly conveyed by air If its interstate.

A phone call to Enugu union bank or match them to the source of the fund would have ended this show of shame. But alas, media trial is their middle name

EFCC under Magu nawa

The question that needs to be answered is - was the money declared at the airport or not.

Licensed or not - you must declare that you are in pocession of such funds.
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by Nobody: 4:44pm On Dec 22, 2018
WaffenSS:
Union Bank is primitive

In a nation prone to theft and illicit dollar transactions including money laundering, you still went ahead and engaged scruffy looking civilians to move around millions of dollars so casually.

If the transaction was not dubious the EFCC would've been well informed.

This is election season. We all remember how a certain minister moved billions in 2 airplanefull flights to Ekiti.

There has to be a better way of moving cash, not this caveman and suspicious approach.




You're among the dense characters spewing rubbish in the other thread. What's your business with whether anyone's approach to their legitimate money is primitive or not? We're talking about legality here. What illegality has the bank or the individuals found with the money committed? Before you shout 'money laundering' like a convulsive parrot, find out what the term actually means and what the law says about it.

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by WaffenSS(m): 4:50pm On Dec 22, 2018
Hedonini:


You're among the dense characters spewing rubbish in the other thread. What's your business with whether anyone's approach to their legitimate money is primitive or not? We're talking about legality here. What illegality has the bank or the individuals found with the money committed? Before you shout 'money laundering' like a convulsive parrot, find out what the term actually means and what the law says about it.

Look at this stupid pig with his hollow indignation

I wish I've time to talk down to you, insect, but I'd rather school your betters

You're way above your head defending this nonsense that makes me question whether you're simply genuinely daft, or an aspiring criminal

Maybe you're both

Dirty impotent swine

Fukk you and everyone who saw you today
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by Wiseandtrue(f): 4:50pm On Dec 22, 2018
sanpipita:
Look at the nonsense we are doing in name of anti corruption, efcc will see money rather than investigate they will quickly run to media to embarrass themselves, I'm tired of this govt
They could not intercept that of Gandollar ooooooooo, you see their life

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by thatigboman: 4:53pm On Dec 22, 2018
CoolAmbience:



What is this ignorance about media trial?

The media doesn't conduct trials....the 'concept' makes no sense at all. Is the media the court?



efcc just runs to media to lie to the world, knowing media will escalate it, without evidence. Why dont they keep shut and prosecute d alleged offenders

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by uhuns: 4:53pm On Dec 22, 2018
At all at all, na em bad pass.
.

the whistle blower must collect something. Happy holidays in advance.
.

Obviously this is election money.... Don't worry Union Bank will get same after election.
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by blackky100(m): 4:55pm On Dec 22, 2018
When you don't know about operations it is better you don't speak about it so that you don't make a fool of your self like EFCC just did.

Some years ago banks were stopped by the Central bank for engaging in CIT movement. CIT means cash in transit. CNN licensed some CIT companies to take up this responsibilities from banks to enhance safety in cash movement and standardized the CIT operations in Nigeria. BANKERS WAREHOUSE is one of the CIT companies licensed by Central Bank who has been doing the movement for almost all the banks in Nigeria, moving cash from all location to the destination of the banks. These funds are customers funds deposited into their accounts.

Bankers Warehouse was only doing their legitimate work as licienced by the Central Bank which is in line with the law of the country. 

Why is union bank moving the cash from Enugu? Union bank has excess dollars in Enugu and the dollars is needed in another location of deficit. By Law BWL can move the cash from any location in the country to another location for any bank in Nigeria so long as the bank is registered with Bankers WAREHOUSE.

Where EFCC aired. 

24 hours is not enough before rushing to press. Did the EFCC contact the banks M.D. before doing this? Did EFCC contact the M.D. of Bankers Ware House before rushing to press? Did they contact the head of Cash Management of union bank in Lagos? Did they invite any management of union bank and bankers were house for questioning before rushing to press?

Bankers WAREHOUSE followed due procedure as laid down by the Central Bank of Nigeria in the process of cash movement. EFCC should have exhausted all means at getting to the various stake holders rushing to press.

Some months ago DSS did same thing to some banks by seizing their dollars of $2M and above also conveyed buy BANKKERS WAREHOUSE at Abuja Airport and they did not rush to presss. They did their investigation and even discovered the cash was customers cash deposited at the bank. After investigation the cash was released to the banks and the world did not hear.

PLEASE DON'T KILL BUSINESS FOR CIT COMPANIES AND DON'T EXPOSE THEIR STAFF TO RISK. INVESTIGATE PROPERLY BEFORE GOING TO PRESS.

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by Lush100(m): 4:57pm On Dec 22, 2018
WaffenSS:
Union Bank is primitive

In a nation prone to theft and illicit dollar transactions including money laundering, you still went ahead and engaged scruffy looking civilians to move around millions of dollars so casually.

If the transaction was not dubious the EFCC would've been well informed.

This is election season. We all remember how a certain minister moved billions in 2 airplanefull flights to Ekiti.

There has to be a better way of moving cash, not this caveman and suspicious approach.



.
Sir, in a dept related to cash in transit.
only civilian is allowed according to CBN.
only hefty scruffy people u will see because of the nature of the job.
money no easy to convey oh.

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Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by hushshinani(m): 5:01pm On Dec 22, 2018
DlawTECHY:

They claimed the money already sir
that'd be nice then...
Re: Union Bank And Bankers Warehouse Reply EFCC On 2.8 Million Dollars Seized by Lush100(m): 5:01pm On Dec 22, 2018
WaffenSS:


Please

You're better than this line of poor reasoning

In sane countries cash is moved in armored boxes secured in the holds of planes and accompanied by uniformed and accredited guards.

How is this emblematic of the 21st century?

We demand progress and compare ourselves to the US at the drop of a hat, but we excuse such shoddy arrangements simply because we love anything that allows us to blame the government.

Why didn't Union Bank notify the EFCC with legal documents BEFORE embarking on their misadventure?

Clearly even the airline is not aware of this arrangement.

This is dubious and absolutely unprofessional for a major bank.
.
Sir,
cash in transit companies are not mandated to inform any security outfit.

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