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Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Lagbaja01(m): 1:34pm On Dec 27, 2018
See, I'm currently not an APC nor PDP supporter (I was), I belong to the third force but your claim of who would vote PMB is just ridiculous....statistics has it that over 20milion Nigerian youths are unemployed and that number alone is enough to clear both pdp n apc cabals(considering d number of votes in 2015)...how I wish our youths can wake from their slumber before Feb 2019.....these old thieves have nothing to offer, we really need new hands, able men with vision in helm of this Nation's affairs.
zombieTRACKER:


Who will vote Buhari?

Lair sheribu,?. ... You?

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Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by naijaboiy: 1:35pm On Dec 27, 2018
Okonkwo in "things fall apart" committed suicide after he was frustrated by his village people acceptance of the western ways. Depression has always been real, do you have data and statistics to prove that many of our ancestors didn't commit suicide?

Suicide is not a western thingy and has never been glamorized. And it's so pathetic that you're trying to compare hundreds of years ago with the present.

If you don't know the effects of depression and what it has done to people it's better you don't lend a voice because this "hard man/woman" post you're making is only worsening the situation not helping it. undecided

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Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Nobody: 1:54pm On Dec 27, 2018
deleo16:
Television has nothing on me these days. I'm more of an internet freak.
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by bigiyaro(m): 1:59pm On Dec 27, 2018
abdulaz:
I would rather die than commit suicide grin
Make I commit suicide make another nigga take my clients ba grin
Just imagine, No More EPL No more Champions league I go come leave all my babes behind No more TWD and GOT No more GOW No more weed kiss
Fvck suicide. We die here, even if 1 dollar is equivalent to 2k. We will keep pushing.
ma nigger
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Nobody: 2:03pm On Dec 27, 2018
Gboy101:
...one thing you forget to realized is what cause suicide. the Major reason is the economy status 50 %, failed academic 10%, body shaming 10% , failed relationship 10% , social status and many more 10%.

before now it was not so. Africans don't know what economy was neither the central bank of africa or neither do they seek employment.

they were simply farmers, fishermen, Hurters and hunt gatherers. there were nothing like career, body shaming or trying to be beautiful via cosmetic surgery. life was more easy for them as an uncivilized humans.

their daily life was just to eat and not the craze over materialism and possession.

we can't rule out the fact that there weren't any suicide cases in the past, they were simply not reported. unlike what we have today the civilized population and social media.

I swear I wish I was born before the colonial era. All they did was eat and enjoy nature. No problems, no worries and they lived longer. The current life expectancy age for Nigerians is something to worry about. cry

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Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by PatrickOkunima(m): 2:05pm On Dec 27, 2018
Tecks10:
Forget all talks. Depression is actually real; people who have never experienced depression or haven't had anyone close to them experience it,are the ones talking down on it. Don't always condemn people who commit suicide, it takes a whole lot of courage and strength to kill one self. Yes,suicide is bad, but it takes anything far form cowardice to commit it.

Nobody is disputing that. But is suicide the way out? Hell No!

The rate at which Nigerians take their own lives these days is alarming, but cannot be solely attributed to depression. Are you telling me that the people of old did not experience depression? Of course they did!

The problem is really not depression. We are imbibing the white man's culture, of which suicide is part.

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Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by JeromeBlack: 2:09pm On Dec 27, 2018
Opinionated:
By Abdulkabir Olatunji

If everything goes to plan, children will grow into adults but what is not readily recognized and accepted in our society is that adults carry the information they downloaded at childhood with them. The character most people develop by 20 is very difficult to change unless there is some radical change in their circumstance or environment — yet, the basic persona is there.

In the last decade we have seen an alarming increase in suicides, attempted suicides and murder as well. Many have quickly opined that these incidences are just a reflection of what has always happened in our society. I disagree.

The introduction of cable television in the early 90s in Nigeria has changed our society meaning part of a generation has been born with access to Western lifestyle which includes a tendency to glamourize violence and you guessed it — suicide as well. Let’s leave the promotion of sex and drugs for another time.

Some might argue that even till now, many Nigerians don’t have access to cable television and I agree. However, what many cannot get via cable, they can get with a set of DVDs costing as little as N100 each. Look around you, the average Nigerian youth is hooked on some American or foreign series — they call them ‘season films’. This content is rapidly dumping the mindset of the West in Nigerian youths without the support structure present in those countries (no matter how flawed they are).

Let me explain in a way that people might understand. So, a 16-year-old girl starts acting like a rebellious American kid, this will not make her parents, typical Americans, neither will it change Lagos to Los Angeles. In essence, the girl is exhibiting traits the Nigerian society doesn’t readily accept. Then, frustration begins to set in, her Western dogma tells her frustrated people usually commit suicide. To kill yourself is not easy but she reads on social media how certain people died taking certain things and it begins to look attractive.

Yes, we all get sad and depressed at some points in our lives. At this point, it is so easy for the young person to commit suicide and even write letters seeking validation and justification.

Our “yuppie” analysts give it — “Depression is real” “You don’t understand what people are going through”. Biko, be quiet for a while, some of our ancestors went through 100 years of war, others slavery, they didn’t start committing suicide for “I don’t like my life reasons”. I condemn all forms of suicide but the ones that existed in our culture in the past had certain complexities attached which I still find unjustifiable. For example, a King should not have to commit suicide, better face your enemies and die in battle.

I stop here before I digress too much.

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This is very ignorant. So suicide is caused by TV? Only Americans and white people have suicide in their culture abi?

The hardship, the stress, the depression and the ignorance in Nigeria cannot push one to suicide?


And a mod pushed this nonsense to front page

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Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Uglymugg: 2:15pm On Dec 27, 2018
calddon:
its bad, the idea of kids acting like grownups, wanting their freedom and the plague of depression is all on the media. The late 90s and early 2000 changed it all in these part of the world. There's no going back. what we will see going forward are endless circles of freedom seeking selfish generations. Congratulations We have been civilized in poverty


JeromeBlack:



This is very ignorant. So suicide is caused by TV? Only Americans and white people have suicide in their culture abi?

The hardship, the stress, the depression and the ignorance in Nigeria cannot push one to suicide?

Attitudes towards suicide slowly began to shift during the Renaissance. John Donne's work Biathanatos, contained one of the first modern defences of suicide, bringing proof from the conduct of Biblical figures, such as Jesus, Samson and Saul, and presenting arguments on grounds of reason and nature to sanction suicide in certain circumstances.

The secularization of society that began during The Enlightenment questioned traditional religious attitudes toward suicide and brought a more modern perspective to the issue. David Hume denied that suicide was a crime as it affected no one and was potentially to the advantage of the individual. In his 1777 Essays on Suicide and the Immortality of the Soul he rhetorically asked, "Why should I prolong a miserable existence, because of some frivolous advantage which the public may perhaps receive from me?" A shift in public opinion at large can also be discerned; The Times in 1786 initiated a spirited debate on the motion "Is suicide an act of courage?"

By the 19th-century, the act of suicide had shifted from being viewed as caused by sin to being caused by insanity in Europe.
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Uglymugg: 2:21pm On Dec 27, 2018
naijaboiy:
Okonkwo in "things fall apart" committed suicide after he was frustrated by his village people acceptance of the western ways. Depression has always been real, do you have data and statistics to prove that many of our ancestors didn't commit suicide?

Suicide is not a western thingy and has never been glamorized. And it's so pathetic that you're trying to compare hundreds of years ago with the present.

undecided


The thing just tire me oh. As if it's white people that taught us how to be sentient. I believe every sentient being experiences depression. Hell, even dogs experience depression, and they're not half as conscious as man. How much more our ancestors?

But I'm not suprised they blame white people for inventing everything. Even invented suicide while we sat on our hands.

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Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by calddon(m): 2:22pm On Dec 27, 2018
Uglymugg:





Attitudes towards suicide slowly began to shift during the Renaissance. John Donne's work Biathanatos, contained one of the first modern defences of suicide, bringing proof from the conduct of Biblical figures, such as Jesus, Samson and Saul, and presenting arguments on grounds of reason and nature to sanction suicide in certain circumstances.

The secularization of society that began during The Enlightenment questioned traditional religious attitudes toward suicide and brought a more modern perspective to the issue. David Hume denied that suicide was a crime as it affected no one and was potentially to the advantage of the individual. In his 1777 Essays on Suicide and the Immortality of the Soul he rhetorically asked, "Why should I prolong a miserable existence, because of some frivolous advantage which the public may perhaps receive from me?" A shift in public opinion at large can also be discerned; The Times in 1786 initiated a spirited debate on the motion "Is suicide an act of courage?"

By the 19th-century, the act of suicide had shifted from being viewed as caused by sin to being caused by insanity in Europe.
Ur writeup is even suicidal to understand
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by millionboi2: 2:38pm On Dec 27, 2018
Apart from politics, campaign, documentary and little football and music


I no get time for tv.
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Philosopher1979: 2:51pm On Dec 27, 2018
I think Abdulkabir Olatunji is right. The western world is actually selling us an ideology which we dont really understand. for the last 500 years, we Africans have been trying to copy what we dont understand and this cultural imperialism is getting out of hand. We need to understand something before we copy it. I think western ideology is based on scientific rationalism, consumerism, materialism, atheism and sometimes nihilism and despair. These western ideologies need to be understood in an african context for us to be able to relate sucessfully with it. This copy cat mentality is affecting us. Ironically, we do not even understand what we are copying.
Our teenagers see american kids commit suicide but they do not even understand the nature of Western society.
Besides we need to start understanding issues as what is happiness and what can be defined as happiness. What is man's purpose in life. A man that has a purpose in life will not commit suicide because he has no job or has failed jamb 10 times. This philosophical outlook needs to be put in an African context.
We Africans are yet to define things like the meaning of life, human nature, the nature of religion, culture, western culture in an african context etc.
this calls for deep thinking and we Africans are not deep thinkers. We only see life on the surface.
Besides we worship western culture without looking at the negative side of it. Someone like Kim Kadarshian might be encouraging rape or prostitution but we refuse to admit it because the western world sells the concept of slay queen for us (something we copy without understanding)

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Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by KevinDein: 2:57pm On Dec 27, 2018
abdulaz:
I would rather die than commit suicide grin

Make I commit suicide make another nigga take my clients ba grin

Just imagine,
No More EPL
No more Champions league
I go come leave all my babes behind
No more TWD and GOT
No more GOW
No more weed kiss

Fvck suicide. We die here, even if 1 dollar is equivalent to 2k.
We will keep pushing.
Funny

The whole idea of missing out on weekend and midweek football, hangouts with friends and stuffs like that would snap me out of any idea to commit suicide.

Too much fun in the world. Yes, it's a difficult and sometimes cruel world, but there's just so much fun in it.
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Dabiridamilare(m): 3:00pm On Dec 27, 2018
KingThreatzz:
Dont keep sniper at home.

Dis statement reminds of my mum...one day, outta frustration of seeing flies and unwanted flying and crawling insect in my room. I just woke up,went straight to her room forgetting that she has been reading how people do take this sniper to commit suicide and said 'mum, I really need sniper',.
Oboy, see the rush kin eye she take look me, she didnt say anything oo... Until I came back to my senses that I didn't tell her what I needed the sniper for,even when i did tell her, she was still monitoring my movemment and room ooo tongue tongue tongue

She hates sniper like hell,infact, she prefers using other inactive pesticide other than that sniper..
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by KingThreatzz: 3:11pm On Dec 27, 2018
Dabiridamilare:


Dis statement reminds of my mum...one day, outta frustration of seeing flies and unwanted flying and crawling insect in my room. I just woke up,went straight to her room forgetting that she has been reading how people do take this sniper to commit suicide and said 'mum, I really need sniper',.
Oboy, see the rush kin eye she take look me, she didnt say anything oo... Until I came back to my senses that I didn't tell her what I needed the sniper for,even when i did tell her, she was still monitoring my movemment and room ooo tongue tongue tongue

She hates sniper like hell,infact, she prefers using other inactive pesticide other than that sniper..

Your mum is extremely cautious. I've been once suicidal before. If sniper was available then, I may not be typing this now
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by newschartapp: 3:14pm On Dec 27, 2018

Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Nobody: 3:22pm On Dec 27, 2018
Floryangel8:
Gone are the days of Nigerian no dey kill themselves. God help us to be strong emotionally and psychologically

Trust me it takes a lot of courage to commit suicide. Stop calling people in such situations cowards.

They need help and that's all.

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Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Bobbyfreshh(m): 3:33pm On Dec 27, 2018
abdulaz:
I would rather die than commit suicide grin
Make I commit suicide make another nigga take my clients ba grin
Just imagine, No More EPL No more Champions league I go come leave all my babes behind No more TWD and GOT No more GOW No more weed kiss
Fvck suicide. We die here, even if 1 dollar is equivalent to 2k. We will keep pushing.

correct GUY
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by urahara(m): 4:11pm On Dec 27, 2018
raptex:
I swear I wish I was born before the colonial era. All they did was eat and enjoy nature. No problems, no worries and they lived longer. The current life expectancy age for Nigerians is something to worry about. cry

Before the colonial era , people lived far worse than we live today .
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Opinionated: 4:29pm On Dec 27, 2018
dexterinc2003:
OP,
Please stop writing about things you do not understand.

In your mind, there would be no suicide if people do not watch American films. Just when i thought i have heard it all!

One would think you would even try to research a little, but no, just pure sentiments and superstitions.

Let me tell you a little more about Major depression.

There is basically a chemical imbalance in the brain, which other people do not have, most times can be corrected with anti depressants.

It is severe enough to disrupt the person's daily activities and they have no control over it. (The depression).

Sometimes , it could occur with other mental illness, where they begin to see things , hear things and feel things that do not exist.

So please be guided when you speak.

Suicidality is not acquired by watching TV.

PS: HIV existed but was misdiagnosed in the 80's , depression existed since the time of your ancestors but was not recognised.

The same people you are quoting believe you descended from single-cell organisms.
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Opinionated: 4:30pm On Dec 27, 2018
JeromeBlack:



This is very ignorant. So suicide is caused by TV? Only Americans and white people have suicide in their culture abi?

The hardship, the stress, the depression and the ignorance in Nigeria cannot push one to suicide?


And a mod pushed this nonsense to front page

Write your own, let us see.
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Dabiridamilare(m): 4:43pm On Dec 27, 2018
KingThreatzz:


Your mum is extremely cautious. I've been once suicidal before. If sniper was available then, I may not be typing this now
Ooops, what situation could have warranted u to think of suicide as the only last resort.
Do u mind to share....
Thank God u didn't commit it anyway, u are a living testimony.
can u just share with us and probably we learn something new.
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by KingThreatzz: 5:08pm On Dec 27, 2018
Dabiridamilare:

Ooops, what situation could have warranted u to think of suicide as the only last resort.
Do u mind to share....
Thank God u didn't commit it anyway, u are a living testimony.
can u just share with us and probably we learn something new.

Tried going abroad to study but it was getting frustrated. Did jamb then and used someone for admission runs then but the guy duped us. Was lonely, no girlfriend, no life. That was the stage then. Depression was my friend.
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Nobody: 5:10pm On Dec 27, 2018
urahara:


Before the colonial era , people lived far worse than we live today .
Worse, How?
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Elliot2(m): 5:25pm On Dec 27, 2018
Gboy101:
...one thing you forget to realized is what cause suicide. the Major reason is the economy status 50 %, failed academic 10%, body shaming 10% , failed relationship 10% , social status and many more 10%.

before now it was not so. Africans don't know what economy was neither the central bank of africa or neither do they seek employment.

they were simply farmers, fishermen, Hurters and hunt gatherers. there were nothing like career, body shaming or trying to be beautiful via cosmetic surgery. life was more easy for them as an uncivilized humans.

their daily life was just to eat and not the craze over materialism and possession.

we can't rule out the fact that there weren't any suicide cases in the past, they were simply not reported. unlike what we have today the civilized population and social media.

you lie. there is nothing new. our ancestors had even more challenging times than we do now,but they never committed suicides as we do now. despite all d horrors of slavery, our ancestors endured it; they did not take this easy but coward way. How many of us can endure that? Our ancestors competed for almost everything which were limited: food,women,freedom,fame,e.t.c., just as we do now. how many of those who lost out in such competing times committed suicides for not having their choice food,women,power,e.t.c? whereas,in this age,we have coward human beings who can not bare to have their desires disappointed. Every little disappointment,na suicide don cross their minds. u lose bet,suicide. u lose gf, suicide. u no get money,suicide. Aba!
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by urahara(m): 5:35pm On Dec 27, 2018
raptex:
Worse, How?

No means of transportation

No drugs

No technology

Silly wars

Greater chances of being sold into slavery than now.

No education

Low life expectancy
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Elliot2(m): 5:44pm On Dec 27, 2018
Gboy101:
...one thing you forget to realized is what cause suicide. the Major reason is the economy status 50 %, failed academic 10%, body shaming 10% , failed relationship 10% , social status and many more 10%.

before now it was not so. Africans don't know what economy was neither the central bank of africa or neither do they seek employment.

they were simply farmers, fishermen, Hurters and hunt gatherers. there were nothing like career, body shaming or trying to be beautiful via cosmetic surgery. life was more easy for them as an uncivilized humans.

their daily life was just to eat and not the craze over materialism and possession.

we can't rule out the fact that there weren't any suicide cases in the past, they were simply not reported. unlike what we have today the civilized population and social media.

Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by Nobody: 6:04pm On Dec 27, 2018
urahara:


No means of transportation

No drugs

No technology

Silly wars

Greater chances of being sold into slavery than now.

No education

Low life expectancy
They didn't need drugs cos they ate fresh fruits and rarely fell sick. Screw transportation, education and technology, why would I need them when I can enjoy nature without worries?

I'm talking about the era before slavery. People lived really long then.
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by urahara(m): 6:23pm On Dec 27, 2018
raptex:
[b]They didn't need drugs cos they ate fresh fruits and rarely fell sick. [/b]Screw transportation, education and technology, why would I need them when I can enjoy nature without worries?

I'm talking about the era before slavery. People lived really long then.


Looool @ bolded

Prior to colonisation , life expectancy was roughly 30 years.
Re: Increasing Suicide — Be Careful What Your Children Consume by urahara(m): 6:26pm On Dec 27, 2018
raptex:
They didn't need drugs cos they ate fresh fruits and rarely fell sick. Screw transportation, education and technology, why would I need them when I can enjoy nature without worries?

I'm talking about the era before slavery. People lived really long then.

People never really lived long then. Prior to colonisation , the population was scanty as death rate was by far higher than birth rate

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