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LordReed:
You are a stupid goat. I didn't ask you anything so please focus your attention elsewhere.

You can call me whatever adjective you deem fit as much as you like, even till kingdom come.

It will not change how this forum was set up, that being, it is a public forum open to public expressions which allows posting unsolicited comments anywhere that takes anybody's fancy, without being policed, intimidated, bullied, cast aspersions at, without being belittled, without being called insulting or rude names etcetera.

Lords are well known for being familiar with honour, dignity and decorum

If you dont welcome comments to posts you put on Nairaland, then I recommend you start writing with invisible ink.

MuttleyLaff:
You can call me whatever adjective you deem fit as much as you like, even till kingdom come.

It will not change how this forum was set up, that being, it is a public forum open to public expressions which allows posting unsolicited comments anywhere that takes anybody's fancy, without being policed, intimidated, bullied, cast aspersions at, without being belittled, without being called insulting or rude names etcetera.

Lords are well known for being familiar with honour, dignity and decorum

If you dont welcome comments to posts you put on Nairaland, then I recommend you start writing with invisible ink.

I don't give a shït what you think I should be like. You always seek an opportunity to sneak in insults and jabs then start crying when the heat is on. If you cannot comment without that then don't bother replying to me unless you want your tears to flow.

15 For the Lord is coming with fire, and his war-carriages will be like the storm-wind; to give punishment in the heat of his wrath, and his passion is like flames of fire.
16 For with fire and sword will the Lord come, judging all the earth, and his sword will be on all flesh: and great numbers will be put to death by him.
18 And I am coming to get together all nations and tongues: and they will come and will see my glory.
19 And I will put a sign among them, and I will send those who are still living to the nations, to Tarshish, Put, and Lud, Meshech and Rosh, Tubal and Javan, to the sea-lands far away, who have not had word of me, or seen my glory; and they will give the knowledge of my glory to the nations.
20 And they will take your countrymen out of all the nations for an offering to the Lord, on horses, and in carriages, and in carts, and on asses, and on camels, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, says the Lord, as the children of Israel take their offering in a clean vessel into the house of the Lord.
21 And some of them will I take for priests and Levites, says the Lord.
22 For as the new heaven and the new earth which I will make will be for ever before me, says the Lord, so will your seed and your name be for ever.
23 And it will be, that from new moon to new moon, and from Sabbath to Sabbath, all flesh will come to give worship before me, says the Lord.
24 And they will go out to see the dead bodies of the men who have done evil against me: for their worm will ever be living, and their fire will never be put out, and they will be a thing of fear to all flesh.

I think we shouldn't argue or battle over here, we shouldnt argue or talk much because of atheists,let's just make our point and leave them even if they simply call you a lier. I pray that God opens their eyes. But please atheists do not die and realise that it is too late for you. Our God lives, search for Him now He is still around and pray to Him while His near. Jesus loves and teaches us to love.

Michellekabod:
Firstly,this is a faceless forumn. Concluding someone is good or bad based on posts (which sometimes is copied for the internet and pasted here) is a wrong way of judging.
Am a witness to people who act all christian-like on the outside wheras on the inside there are as dark as night.

Secondly,i dont judge people...nah. it is not my type of person.

Thirdly,my stance on religion is not a product of my witness of christians with questionable characters(although that is one of the reasons).

Why do people like to do that? I don't judge people, or is it wrong to judge?

I don't think it's wrong to judge people at all, for if that be the case then everyone would be guilty of that wrong, because everyone judges, even my Master Jesus.

But what my Master said is that people should judge others the same way they want to be judged, and also to judge righteous judgment.

Hence I'm not ashamed to say that I judge people, but I try as much as possible judge them the way I want to be judged, and also try to judge them in the right way.

And that's why you'll hardly hear me say such things as what the OP of this thread said of you, I mean how do they do that, despite their claims to be followers of Jesus because it's obvious that Jesus would never do a thing like that even if there was any truth in that.

Therefore although you say you don't judge, your judgment on that occasion was right concerning his vulgar comments and disgraceful attitude.

So judging is not wrong, it's how someone judges that's the issue, so when I saw your comments In my respect, I was like who might this be, because I had never beforehand conversed with you on this platform. But for you to be able to come to such a judgment about me, I knew that it wouldn't be by accident.

In fact I felt you were God sent because at that point it appeared i was due another evidence that my effort to get His Gospel to His creation via this forum was hitting home, and gaining some grounds.

And though you said coming to conclusions about people via this medium was wrong, but tell me do you think that based on all you've seen or heard of me so far that made me to earn your respect could so easily be wrong, because there is an extent to which words which emanate from someone can be pretended.

I am one that is also able to see what many are not able to see someone, and to distinguish one person from another, and just by a statement that emanates from a person's mouth, I can have an idea what's in a person's heart, because "out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks," and even though i get it wrong a times I'm usually right in my judgment.

So when I was able to see some of the comments from your thread and posts, i saw your heart via them and it was beautiful and i was like no wonder, and Michellekabod you know exactly what i'm talking about, and i also believe that's how you were also able to spot me from the crowd.

See I know who I am, so I was just trying to get to confirm somethings to know why you made such a statement because it's really huge, and some persons here like one you may have noticed stalking some what trying hard to engage you in a conversation here(please ignore him for your own good), who heard another lady say just about the same thing concerning me even that I was special, thought it was thru me trying to gain favors. But here you are out of no where confirming the same thing, and he a christian would be like how come!

So kudos to you woman, in time you would come to understand the extent of your spot, meanwhile try to keep in touch, while I would try to do the same because I think we have so much left to talk about.

God be with you.

LordReed:
I don't give a shït what you think I should be like.
You always seek an opportunity to sneak in insults and jabs then start crying when the heat is on.
If you cannot comment without that then don't bother replying to me unless you want your tears to flow.

I dont want or need you to give any shït.

I dont sneak insults nor jabs, neither do I start to cry whenever your imaginary heat is on.

Please show me where and when I sneaked insults and jabs at you. If you cant show where, if you are unable to produce anything, then please, retract your false accusations and tender public apologies accordingly

When we are each enjoying having a right good old banter, you suddenly choose to toss all the play pieces off the table and then get on it, to start shïtting on the table and strutting around like one of our prized feathered friends

I give as much as I get, and I am pleased that budaatum isnt on here to restrain me with a straitjacket through him reading the riot act to me.

Tears may flow in the night, but joy comes in the morning. Tears of joy, ah what a bliss.

Michellekabod:
Sometimes we need words or phrases to define ourselves....it could take a long time typing who i am but agnostic theist summed it all.

With the greatest respect, I beg to disagree that sometimes we need words or phrases to define ourselves based on the premise you saying this being due to the long time it'll take to say who you are

Dont let other people's opinion define you. That is one of the core initial mistakes of christians
If only more christians properly read the bible, there'll be less christians.

Michellekabod:
My stance on religion is not the outcome of the disturbed set of humans called christians....nah.christians are to look up to jesus right? not others

I am pleased to read this comment but I am intrigued to find out what really you about what pure and true religion that is faultless is.
Remember sports like football, hockey are religions even fashion to some too is a religion

Michellekabod:
Study, reasoning, experiences, testing et al are responsible.

This is absolutely true.
Remember the woman who touched the tassel of Jesus' robe, saying to herself "if I shall touch the hem of His garment, I shall be made whole". It is a marriage of her study, reasoning, experiences, testing et al that was responsible for her receiving an answer to that her long standing problem.

Michellekabod:
When you find out the myth paraded as fact has many contradictions you begin to wonder and question and doubt. You want to study, read, evaluate, merge two in two and realise things dont add up....

Oftentimes what seemingly are thought to be contradictions, arent at all contradictions. Whenever you think you're facing a contradiction, do the Berean angle like you've mentioned to check your premise.

I'll be very intrigued if you can list what you've realised dont add up. I must admit and warn you though, that sometimes 1+1 doesnt equal 2

Michellekabod:
The ambassadors of this myth dont make things any better. Their life potrays the opposite of what their holy book claims they should be so you shoo off what ever they have to say as gibberish (which they are)...

Who are these ambassadors and what myths are you referring to here?
Where are these ambassadors sent from, who are they representing?

jesusjnr:
Why do people like to do that? I don't judge people, or is it wrong to judge?

I don't think it's wrong to judge people at all, for if that be the case then everyone would be guilty of that wrong, because everyone judges, even my Master Jesus.

But what my Master said is that people should judge others the same way they want to be judged, and also to judge righteous judgment.

Hence I'm not ashamed to say that I judge people, but I try as much as possible judge them the way I want to be judged, and also try to judge them in the right way.

And that's why you'll hardly hear me say such things as what the OP of this thread said of you, I mean how do they do that, despite their claims to be followers of Jesus because it's obvious that Jesus would never do a thing like that even if there was any truth in that.

Therefore although you say you don't judge, your judgment on that occasion was right concerning his vulgar comments and disgraceful attitude.

So judging is not wrong, it's how someone judges that's the issue, so when I saw your comments In my respect, I was like who might this be, because I had never beforehand conversed with you on this platform. But for you to be able to come to such a judgment about me, I knew that it wouldn't be by accident.

In fact I felt you were God sent because at that point it appeared i was due another evidence that my effort to get His Gospel to His creation via this forum was hitting home, and gaining some grounds.

And though you said coming to conclusions about people via this medium was wrong, but tell me do you think that based on all you've seen or heard of me so far that made me to earn your respect could so easily be wrong, because there is an extent to which words which emanate from someone can be pretended.

I am one that is also able to see what many are not able to see someone, and to distinguish one person from another, and just by a statement that emanates from a person's mouth, I can have an idea what's in a person's heart, because "out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks," and even though i get it wrong a times I'm usually right in my judgment.

So when I was able to see some of the comments from your thread and posts, i saw your heart via them and it was beautiful and i was like no wonder, and Michellekabod you know exactly what i'm talking about, and i also believe that's how you were also able to spot me from the crowd.

See I know who I am, so I was just trying to get to confirm somethings to know why you made such a statement because it's really huge, and some persons here like one you may have noticed stalking some what trying hard to engage you in a conversation here(please ignore him for your own good), who heard another lady say just about the same thing concerning me even that I was special, thought it was thru me trying to gain favors. But here you are out of no where confirming the same thing, and he a christian would be like how come!

So kudos to you woman, in time you would come to understand the extent of your spot, meanwhile try to keep in touch, while I would try to do the same because I think we have so much left to talk about.

God be with you.

God be with you as well (if he exists)
I want to ask some questions
1. How did you come to encounter your God?
2. Is the bible inerrant?
3. Why are they some limitations to faith?
Ps: since i have been on this forumn i have never gone through your topics,never open a thread of yours. Needless to say,it wasnt from your words per say that gave me the conclusion about. It was intuition-my six sense (what you people MISTAKEN for holy spirit)

MuttleyLaff:
With the greatest respect, I beg to disagree that sometimes we need words or phrases to define ourselves based on the premise you saying this being due to the long time it'll take to say who you are

Dont let other people's opinion define you. That is one of the core initial mistakes of christians
If only more christians properly read the bible, there'll be less christians.

I am pleased to read this comment but I am intrigued to find out what really you about what pure and true religion that is faultless is.
Remember sports like football, hockey are religions even fashion to some too is a religion

This is absolutely true.
Remember the woman who touched the tassel of Jesus' robe, saying to herself "if I shall touch the hem of His garment, I shall be made whole". It is a marriage of her study, reasoning, experiences, testing et al that was responsible for her receiving an answer to that her long standing problem.

Oftentimes what seemingly are thought to be contradictions, arent at all contradictions. Whenever you think you're facing a contradiction, do the Berean angle like you've mentioned to check your premise.

I'll be very intrigued if you can list what you've realised dont add up. I must admit and warn you though, that sometimes 1+1 doesnt equal 2

Who are these ambassadors and what myths are you referring to here?

Where are these ambassadors sent from, who are they representing?

My dear i will disagree with you . The woman was healed based on her faith and not reasoning or testing.

There are many contradictions but i can recall one for now. Cant remember the portion of the bible though but when jesus was telling his disciples about the end of the world and his coming he said some people present in that generation will not die before his words were fufiled and off course his words were not fufiled before their deaths.

Pastos,evangelists,et al are the ambassadors.
The myth i am refering to are the virgin birth,cruxification and resurection. Thre difference between them and greek mythology is that zeus,poseidon and hades were created by the greek while they were created by the romans.

The ambassadors claim they are from God and for God

Michellekabod:
God be with you as well (if he exists)
I want to ask some questions
1. How did you come to encounter your God?
2. Is the bible inerrant?
3. Why are they some limitations to faith?
Ps: since i have been on this forumn i have never gone through your topics,never open a thread of yours. Needless to say,it wasnt from your words per say that gave me the conclusion about. It was intuition-my six sense (what you people MISTAKEN for holy spirit)

So how could I have earned your respect, through your intuition-sixth sense? Please put me through because I don't quite get that part.

So that I could proceed with the answers to your questions.

jesusjnr:
So how could I have earned your respect, through your intuition-sixth sense? Please put me through because I don't quite get that part.

So that I could proceed with the answers to your questions.

My subconcious just told me you are quiet responsible

Michellekabod:
My subconcious just told me you are quiet responsible

Sorry to stress this but please let me know everything, so that I'd be clear on it.

Like had you seen my username before, my thread titles etc.

Michellekabod:
My dear i will disagree with you. The woman was healed based on her faith and not reasoning or testing.

1/ Are you saying she obtained her healing based only on her faith?
2/ Michellekabod are you saying her study, reasoning, experiences, testing et al had no part in her planning to touch the hem of Jesus' garment for healing?
3/ Do you really believe that faith works without works?

Michellekabod:
Many, but for now i recall one.
When Jesus was talking about the end of the world to his disciples he said that some people alive in that generation will not die until his words have come to pass. Many generations have come and go after them and Jesus is not still back.
I cant accept what he said if what he meant by his coming was not the physically appearing in the sky.

Thank you for obliging me with at least one. I must admit this choice must have been decided by fate.

If it is the passage I think you are referring to with your observation, then with all due respects, I am trying so hard to understand why and how you have managed to misinterprete singular generation to mean plural generations because if it is the same bible passage then what Jesus prophesised, did happen in AD 70, the temple was completely destroyed, razed to the ground leaving no stone unturned. It happened within 40 years, a generation is 40 years according to Jewish custom

Michellekabod:
Who are these ambassadors and what myths are you referring to here?
Envangelists, pastors et al...
You know of zeus, hades and poseidon as greek mythology right?
Permit me to say the virgin birth, cruxification and ascension are also myths but by the romans except proven otherwise)

Well evangelists, pastors et al.. are gifts and roles for doing things, they are no more ambassadors than any other believer

Lets take them one after the other, but for now because of time, pick out virgin birth first
1/ What is mythical about the virgin birth of Jesus?
2/ Yes, there are supposedly virgin births, and actually even before the Romans, but can you list examples of two or three you know of?
3/ What form of virgin birth are each of what you've mentioned in #2 above?

I'll like to skip hades because as you've rightly pointed out and seem to know, hades is a greek concept. Hades is actually for Greek the god of the underworld, and the name the Greeks have for the dwelling place of their dead. Sheol is more right up the Jewish's alley.

Its not today, it started. There is nothing wrong with borrowed technology. The bible is littered with borrowed technology. I know you're smart and clever enough to link and join dots to see an emerged picture

Michellekabod:
They claim from God and for God

You really need to tell, in your own words, and exhaustively what you would or have perceived God and god to be.
Dont pull punches, give it your best shot, pretend like as if your life depended on it

I'll prefer you provide illustrations or examples too of what you've described God and god to be. Thank you in advance.

MuttleyLaff:
I dont want or need you to give any shït.

I dont sneak insults nor jabs, neither do I start to cry whenever your imaginary heat is on.

Please show me where and when I sneaked insults and jabs at you. If you cant show where, if you are unable to produce anything, then please, retract your false accusations and tender public apologies accordingly

When we are each enjoying having a right good old banter, you suddenly choose to toss all the play pieces off the table and then get on it, to start shïtting on the table and strutting around like one of our prized feathered friends

I give as much as I get, and I am pleased that budaatum isnt on here to restrain me with a straitjacket through him reading the riot act to me.

Tears may flow in the night, but joy comes in the morning. Tears of joy, ah what a bliss.

Yes writing "don't be daft" is good banter. When next you want banter use such a term and then let's watch your tears flow.

LordReed:
Yes writing "don't be daft" is good banter. When next you want banter use such a term and then let's watch your tears flow.

I wonder what the comments were before I told you not to be daft because of you trying to be intimidating and bossing around, like after the subtle shade of telling me to kindly buzz off

Tears may flow in the night, but joy comes in the morning. Tears of joy, ah what a bliss.

I can give back same measure given to me, give it back pressed down and running over. Bud' is not in here, to save bacon's.

MuttleyLaff:
I wonder what the comments were before I told you not to be daft because of you trying to be intimidating and bossing around, like after the subtle shade of telling me to kindly buzz off

Tears may flow in the night, but joy comes in the morning. Tears of joy, ah what a bliss.

I can give back same measure given to me, give it back pressed down and running over

Yeah you wrote the information was unsolicited and unnecessary when the question wasn't for you. Why the fück are you disturbing me if you don't want unsolicited information?

LordReed:
Yeah you wrote the information was unsolicited and unnecessary when the question wasn't for you. Why the fück are you disturbing me if you don't want unsolicited information?

You wrote:
"By now you should realise there is difference between belief and knowledge
See chart below for more clarity."

At which I clamped down on your subtle thrown shade with:
"You are not proving anything with information like this to me, like as if I didnt know about all those 4 unsolicited & unnecessary information before."

This is a public forum open to public expressions which allows posting unsolicited comments anywhere that takes anybody's fancy, without being policed, intimidated, bullied, cast aspersions at, without being belittled, without being called insulting or rude names etcetera.

MuttleyLaff:
You wrote:
"By now you should realise there is difference between belief and knowledge
See chart below for more clarity."

At which I replied back to your subtle thrown shade:
"You are not proving anything with information like this to me, like as if I didnt know about all those 4 unsolicited & unnecessary information before."

This is a public forum open to public expressions which allows posting unsolicited comments anywhere that takes anybody's fancy, without being policed, intimidated, bullied, cast aspersions at, without being belittled, without being called insulting or rude names etcetera.

Believe me if I want to throw shade at you it won't be subtle. If you knew the information why were you forming spokesperson for someone I asked a clarifying question to? Shouldn't you have realised why I was asking the question?

LordReed:
Believe me if I want to throw shade at you it won't be subtle. If you knew the information why were you forming spokesperson for someone I asked a clarifying question to? Shouldn't have realised any I was asking the question?

Let's get this right homie, you dont dictate to me which neighbour or not, I decide to form spokesperson for. Capisce?

MuttleyLaff:
Let's get this right homie, you dont dictate to me which neighbour or not, I decide to form spokesperson for. Capisce?

That's your fücking business but when you come into my space be ready to dance.

LordReed:
That's your fücking business but when you come into my space be ready to dance.

There is and was nothing wrong in what I said in my comment

Reiterating, this is a public forum open to public expressions which allows posting unsolicited comments anywhere that takes anybody's fancy, without being policed, intimidated, bullied, cast aspersions at, without being belittled, without being called insulting or rude names etcetera.

MuttleyLaff:
There was nothing wrong in what I said in my comment

Reiterating, this is a public forum open to public expressions which allows posting unsolicited comments anywhere that takes anybody's fancy, without being policed, intimidated, bullied, cast aspersions at, without being belittled, without being called insulting or rude names etcetera.

And I answered you without rancor but you threw it in my face. I have said my own, bring your best dancing shoes if you want to tango mate.

LordReed:
And I answered you without rancor but you threw it in my face.
I have said my own, bring your best dancing shoes if you want to tango mate.

When, how and where did I throw "it" in your face?
I dont need shoes before I can dance, but if you're desperately spoiling for one. Bring it on

MuttleyLaff:
When, how and where did I throw "it" in your face?
I dont need shoes before I can dance, but if you're desperately spoiling for one. Bring it on

Then don't cry when your toes bleed.

LordReed:
Then don't cry when your toes bleed.

My toes dont bleed. No toe bleed, no cry.

MuttleyLaff:
My toes dont bleed. No toe bleed, no cry.

Yeah like when you were crying to budaatum on the other thread right. LMFAO!

First off, you all need to know that God is an English word, and the English Language was formed from the combination of German and French, it is a new language relatively but to understand God, you need to follow the etymology of Elohim which means "Those who from the sky came" in plural connotation. Singular of Elohim is Eloha, so we need to clarify that God is more of a level of intelligence and a description of the Human Beings who from the sky came. You can call them Gods, Aliens, ETs etc, but I know call them our Great Grand Parents and Uncles.

These Human Beings that came to be known as Elohim were Astronauts from far Star Systems, Genetic Scientists, Physicists, Geologists and genetic engineers whose home planet leaders did not allow them to continue cloning in the home planet of Elohim, our Grand Parents. So they searched and found this planet and designed all plants and animals and finally proclaimed, let us make man in our image.

They didn't expect us to evolve so fast, all thanks to Lucifer who gave us a clue and no thanks to him that he thought he could control us better.

The few that knows the Truth are negotiating deals and making money, while the rest are worshipping and dropping tithes and taxes and slaving for the 'let us make man crew' and their handlers and agents among the human species.

On the subject of Almighty God, it is silly to admit that there is a Design without a Designer, it is a different argument if we agree that the Almighty Designer is incommunicado, he probably is dead or choose to be dissolved, hide among us, or Earth and other planets are designed and controlled through a set of laws for all, which seems to the fact, hence, there is no need to bother about if there is an Almighty or not.

It is just a game.

LordReed:
Yeah like when you were crying to budaatum on the other thread right. LMFAO!

He in that thread put a restraining order on me, literally tied up my hands and so left me at a disadvantage at squaring up to you, so I reached out to him, to rein you in, else katakata go burst. I am pleased to see you've got your LMFAO! mojo back

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MuttleyLaff:
1/ Are you saying she obtained her healing based only on her faith?
2/ Michellekabod are you saying her study, reasoning, experiences, testing et al had no part in her planning to touch the hem of Jesus' garment for healing?
3/ Do you really believe that faith works without works?

Thank you for obliging me with at least one. I must admit this choice must have been decided by fate.

If it is the passage I think you are referring to with your observation, then with all due respects, I am trying so hard to understand why and how you have managed to misinterprete singular generation to mean plural generations because if it is the same bible passage then what Jesus prophesised, did happen in AD 70, the temple was completely destroyed, razed to the ground leaving no stone unturned. It happened within 40 years, a generation a 40 years according to Jewish custom

Well evangelists, pastors et al.. are gifts and roles for doing things, they are no more ambassadors than any other believer

Lets take them one after the other, but for now because of time, pick out virgin birth first
1/ What is mythical about the virgin birth of Jesus?
2/ Yes, there are supposedly virgin births, and actually even before the Romans, but can you list examples of two or three you know of?
3/ What form of virgin birth are each of what you've mentioned in #2 above?

I'll like to skip hades because as you've rightly pointed out and seem to know, hades is a greek concept. Hades is actually for Greek the god of the underworld, and the name the Greeks have for the dwelling place of their dead. Sheol is more right up the Jewish's alley.

Its not today, it started. There is nothing wrong with borrowed technology. The bible is littered with borrowed technology. I know you're smart and clever enough link dots to see an emerged picture

You really need to tell, in your own words, and exhaustively what you would or have perceived God and god to be.
Dont pull punches, give it your best shot, pretend like as if your life depended on it.
I'll prefer you provide illustrations or examples too of what you've described God and god to be. Thank you in advance.

Tomorrow i will reply this,am sleepy
The bible stated that jesus was amazed by her faith not studying or reasoning et al. The bible cant be wrong you know.
Faith without work is dead according to james, i know that. He didnt say faith with reasoning or studying.

jesusjnr:
Sorry to stress this but please let me know everything, so that I'd be clear on it.

Like had you seen my username before, my thread titles etc.

Thread tittle

Michellekabod:
Tomorrow i will reply this, am sleepy

Shhhhh! Wishing you a very good and restful night. You deserve it

Michellekabod:
Thread tittle

So if I'm getting you correctly, the only thing you had ever seen or heard about me was just my thread title, before your subconscious(sixth sense) told you that I was quite responsible.

But despite that you had never even known anything else about me, through my comments or otherwise, you were yet able to believe and trust your subconscious voice to the extent that it could cause me to not only be the only Christian to earn your respect In this forum, but to also make you openly declare it?