blueAgent:


As usual you are twisting the word of God. Jesus was referring to the Church as an insistution and not just one Church especially not your Church.

Jesus Christ formed just one church not many denominations, there is ONE faith as there is ONE Lord and One baptism. Not denominations, in fact denominations are sinful according to the Bible. So yes the passage is speaking of the church as an institution and that institution is that which was established by Christ and his apostles, I. E the Catholic Church.

blueAgent:


Stop lieing you sing praises to Mary, you also pray to her and ask for forgiveness of Sin.

https://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=118

even the Bible contains the praise of righteous men of course I still sing the praises of righteous people today, I call Mary blessed, the apostles too etc... I pray in the company of the Saints but always asking their intercession not as though they can forgive sins

Ubenedictus:
even the Bible contains the praise of righteous men of course I still sing the praises of righteous people today, I call Mary blessed, the apostles too etc... I pray in the company of the Saints but always asking their intercession not as though they can forgive sins

baba, the guy is lost and can’t find himself

As usual you folks are good at twisting bible verses. That bible verse you quoted was not given to us as examples of people who were venerated or worshipped rather it was given to us as examples of people who believed God and were blessed no where did it say they should be venerated. None of those people you mentioned ever prayed or worshiped Mary.

blueAgent:



Give examples.

attend a mass today. You’Ll find out.

I USED TO BE A MORE DEVOTED CATHOLIC EVEN WENT TO MINOR SEMINARY, I ALMOST PROCEED INTO THE PRIEST HOOD. I STOPPED ATTENDING MASS BECAUSE MOST OF THEIR DOCTRINES CONFLICT THE DICTIONARY(BIBLE) OF CHRISTIANITY, HOW WILL I CONTINUE TO PRAY TO MARY WHEN JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER, HOW WILL I CONTINUE TO PRAY TO ANGEL MICHAEL WHEN ANGELS TAKES ORDERS ONLY FROM God, HOW LONG will I keep honoring Mary statue when all honor belongs to God.

GOD IS SPIRIT, SEEK HIM, IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH AND U WILL FIND HIM.

Leis:
I USED TO BE A MORE DEVOTED CATHOLIC EVEN WENT TO MINOR SEMINARY, I ALMOST PROCEED INTO THE PRIEST HOOD. I STOPPED ATTENDING MASS BECAUSE MOST OF THEIR DOCTRINES CONFLICT THE DICTIONARY(BIBLE) OF CHRISTIANITY, HOW WILL I CONTINUE TO PRAY TO MARY WHEN JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER, HOW WILL I CONTINUE TO PRAY TO ANGEL MICHAEL WHEN ANGELS TAKES ORDERS ONLY FROM God, HOW LONG will I keep honoring Mary statue when all honor belongs to God.

GOD IS SPIRIT, SEEK HIM, IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH AND U WILL FIND HIM.

wakanda liar are you?

blueAgent:



Give examples.

Because Abel had faith, he offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. God was pleased with him and his gift, and even though Abel is now dead, his faith still speaks for him.

5 Enoch had faith and did not die. He pleased God, and God took him up to heaven. That’s why his body was never found. 6 But without faith no one can please God. We must believe that God is real and that he rewards everyone who searches for him.

7 Because Noah had faith, he was warned about something that had not yet happened. He obeyed and built a boat that saved him and his family. In this way the people of the world were judged, and Noah was given the blessings that come to everyone who pleases God.

8 Abraham had faith and obeyed God. He was told to go to the land that God had said would be his, and he left for a country he had never seen. 9 Because Abraham had faith, he lived as a stranger in the promised land. He lived there in a tent, and so did Isaac and Jacob, who were later given the same promise. 10 Abraham did this, because he was waiting for the eternal city that God had planned and built.

11 Even when Sarah was too old to have children, she had faith that God would do what he had promised, and she had a son. 12 Her husband Abraham was almost dead, but he became the ancestor of many people. In fact, there are as many of them as there are stars in the sky or grains of sand along the beach.



the list of men praised for their faith continue in Hebrew 11

Ubenedictus:
Because Abel had faith, he offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. God was pleased with him and his gift, and even though Abel is now dead, his faith still speaks for him.

5 Enoch had faith and did not die. He pleased God, and God took him up to heaven. That’s why his body was never found. 6 But without faith no one can please God. We must believe that God is real and that he rewards everyone who searches for him.

7 Because Noah had faith, he was warned about something that had not yet happened. He obeyed and built a boat that saved him and his family. In this way the people of the world were judged, and Noah was given the blessings that come to everyone who pleases God.

8 Abraham had faith and obeyed God. He was told to go to the land that God had said would be his, and he left for a country he had never seen. 9 Because Abraham had faith, he lived as a stranger in the promised land. He lived there in a tent, and so did Isaac and Jacob, who were later given the same promise. 10 Abraham did this, because he was waiting for the eternal city that God had planned and built.

11 Even when Sarah was too old to have children, she had faith that God would do what he had promised, and she had a son. 12 Her husband Abraham was almost dead, but he became the ancestor of many people. In fact, there are as many of them as there are stars in the sky or grains of sand along the beach.



the list of men praised for their faith continue in Hebrew 11

As usual you are twisting the scripture to suit your false doctrine that Bible verse is not about honouring those men you mentioned  but is given  to us as an  example of people who had faith in God and overcame their challenges.besides None of those men were perfect or without sin as you people claim  Mary is without Sin.
Moses:disobeyed God
Abraham lied several times.
David was a muderer and adulterer.
Jacob stole his brothers birthright.
Sarah.  lied
Mary: am sure her sins are many.
The list of great servants of God who fell one time or  the other is endless. Only Jesus  lived a Holy and perfect life no one else could have done that  including Mary.

blueAgent:

As usual you are twisting the scripture to suit your false doctrine that Bible verse is not about honouring those men you mentioned  but is given  to us as an  example of people who had faith in God and overcame their challenges.besides None of those men were perfect or without sin as you people claim  Mary is without Sin.
Moses:disobeyed God
Abraham lied several times.
David was a muderer and adulterer.
Jacob stole his brothers birthright.
Sarah.  lied
Mary: am sure her sins are many.
The list of great servants of God who fell one time or  the other is endless. Only Jesus  lived a Holy and perfect life no one else could have done that  including Mary.

you simply asked me to show where people were praised in the Bible and I just did, those are people praised for their faith.

I didn't twist anything.

Now as usual you Have shifted from the issue of praise to the issue of sinlessness.


Before I go to that, do you agree that the bible records the praise of great men of God?


I hate people who go about shifting topic without admitting the initial point

Ubenedictus:
you simply asked me to show where people were praised in the Bible and I just did, those are people praised for their faith.

I didn't twist anything.

Now as usual you Have shifted from the issue of praise to the issue of sinlessness.


Before I go to that, do you agree that the bible records the praise of great men of God?


I hate people who go about shifting topic without admitting the initial point

That particular verse is talking about faith and not praise, those men where mentioned because of their faith in God.

No where in the Bible are Christains instructed to praise the Saints or Mary or even Angels.

blueAgent:

As usual you are twisting the scripture to suit your false doctrine that Bible verse is not about honouring those men you mentioned  but is given  to us as an  example of people who had faith in God and overcame their challenges.besides None of those men were perfect or without sin as you people claim  Mary is without Sin.
Moses:disobeyed God
Abraham lied several times.
David was a muderer and adulterer.
Jacob stole his brothers birthright.
Sarah.  lied
Mary: am sure her sins are many.
The list of great servants of God who fell one time or  the other is endless. Only Jesus  lived a Holy and perfect life no one else could have done that  including Mary.

Clap clap clap

blueAgent:




That particular verse is talking about faith and not praise, those men where mentioned because of their faith in God.

No where in the Bible are Christains instructed to praise the Saints or Mary or even Angels.

lol

So you are telling me that in the Bible there are no praises of righteous men for their qualities?

Ubenedictus:
lol

So you are telling me that in the Bible there are no praises of righteous men for their qualities?

It is upto you to show me where in the Bible it was done.