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Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Shegzy8(m): 1:46pm On Jan 02, 2019
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Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by chiboy1116: 1:57pm On Jan 02, 2019
Jonathan:
Shut up
Jona - dull....lolz
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Sirjamo: 1:58pm On Jan 02, 2019
Gandollar:
So you expect him to reel out his own game plan to you and your clueless government Abii? It doesn't work that way.
Why didn't he reel it out to President Jonathan? he worked for him as his economic adviser.

The truth is, there's no quick solutions to Nigeria's problems whether from Buhari or Obi.

It requires careful planing and meticulous execution over a period longer than one term of office, that's why even the Atiku plan is structured for six years.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Gandollar(f): 2:00pm On Jan 02, 2019
Sirjamo:
Why didn't he reel it out to President Jonathan? he worked for him as his economic adviser.

The truth is, there's no quick solutions to Nigeria's problems whether from Buhari or Obi.

It requires careful planing and meticulous execution over a period longer than one term of office, that's why even the Atiku plan is structured for six years.
But why didn't you tell buhari this when he was reeling out empty promises in 2014?
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Bimpe29(m): 2:05pm On Jan 02, 2019
Easier said than done. Masses are nothing in the scheme of things as being championed by the political class.

Many things are lacking from basic amenities to fundamental human rights to conducive political systems in Nigeria.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by ihatesycophant(m): 2:06pm On Jan 02, 2019
dunkem21:
Then give them N30k and force the governors to pay.. Since he can't mediate between the two parties.

Peter Obi will dialogue and get a price suitable for NLC and the state governments.. That is why he smartly didn't quote any figure.
This guy commenting on your post just wasting his time and knowledge because you know next to nothing about governance. You said, FG should give N30k and force states to pay. How would FG force states to pay when states are not appendage of the Federal. States operate autonomous government and not under the whims and caprices of the Federal. The states are bound to spend their resources and earnings the way that favour them.
Come to your level, minimum wage when passed to law becomes biding law to all federating units. In a law abiding system, no government system whether private or public is expected to go below it. If anyone does that, such will be going against the law and be liable. That can even be impeachable offence. But in Nigeria will play lip service to everything and see cogent issues as normal. Till date some states are not even paying the N18,000 minimum wage and State Assembly of such state keep mum on it while some private enterprises are even paying workers between N5,000 to N15,000 and still no one talk about it while the law say N18,000 minimum.
The best is to get a workable amount that can serve as benchmark while every one take a leap from there. If they choose N30,000 as benchmark, many states and private enterprise will be in a state of limbo and may shed workforce to meet up with payment.
The solution lies with Labour leaders to shift grounds based on the existing economy. We need a minimum benchmark that every organs can cope with.
Put in mind, minimum wage does not mean minimum payment, they can go beyond that.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Shuku0kukobambi: 2:13pm On Jan 02, 2019
RexTramadol1:
Smiles, what if I tell you that Lagos can't pay the 30k, will you believe?


But that's the reality!


18k sef, Lagos is hardly paying it cos instead of paying it as basic salary, they deduct from it in form of tax again


Ask any Lagos civil servant.
In that case, there's problem
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Daeylar(f): 2:18pm On Jan 02, 2019
So basically Peter is saying there must be a universal minimum wage?


""Minimum wage doesn’t have to be universal,” he said on Politics Today, a programme of ChannelsTV.
“I don’t believe that somebody in Lagos should earn the same thing as somebody who is in, maybe, Anambra State or somebody in Maiduguri.”


He, however, stressed that it was important to have a federal minimum wage which is the product of proper talks with labour.
What is ideal for him is that: “There has to be a federal minimum, then each state, working within this minimum, can decide where they should go. That is what is obtainable all over the world”""


Why should someone say one thing and in the very next sentence contradict himself?
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Shikini: 2:22pm On Jan 02, 2019
jlinkd78:
Am honestly on same page with Obi on this
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by brainhgeek(m): 2:23pm On Jan 02, 2019
Honestly I think this true but can only be achieved with restructuring. Let all states control their resources and be responsible for their workers.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by laliga01: 2:25pm On Jan 02, 2019
Ngozi14:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/01/i-dont-believe-somebody-in-lagos-should-earn-the-same-thing-as-somebody-in-anambra-peter-obi/amp/
I believe P. Obi is right. Since some states pretend that they can't afford the new minimum wage, different minimum wage should be adopted by different states.
It will help reduces these multiple months non payment of salary
It will also make the states competitive
It will help each states look inward to harness their resources and lastly
This federalism has never worked and is not going to work in Nigeria. We all know these but we prefer to pretend we don't.
Each state needs autonomy for things to work and give some percentage to the federal govt.

The solution to Nigeria's problem is as clear as morning light. We are just not ready.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by IndianRomeo: 2:30pm On Jan 02, 2019
Jonathan:
Peter obi is a fool
. Please, with a due respect, explain your reasons?
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Lordkross(m): 2:49pm On Jan 02, 2019
Jonathan:
Go and ask from your father at home
Even your name suggests how stupid you are.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by bluecircle470: 2:59pm On Jan 02, 2019
jlinkd78:
Am honestly on same page with Obi on this
What he said is no different with what this present administration is championing.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Sirjamo: 3:00pm On Jan 02, 2019
Gandollar:
But why didn't you tell buhari this when he was reeling out empty promises in 2014?
I am not close to him
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Ubiudumo(m): 3:05pm On Jan 02, 2019
There's sense in what he said. For example, the national minimum wage may be 30k but states may decide higher if they can afford it but not lesser. Good one.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Trumps: 3:25pm On Jan 02, 2019
Ngozi14:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/01/i-dont-believe-somebody-in-lagos-should-earn-the-same-thing-as-somebody-in-anambra-peter-obi/amp/
Useless Obi why not suggest also that all 36 state Govs should be earning based on their income & also the varpious houses of assembly members.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Gandollar(f): 3:26pm On Jan 02, 2019
Sirjamo:
I am not close to him
You could have written him an open letter
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by tuniski: 3:30pm On Jan 02, 2019
Shuku0kukobambi:
And the governors had a meeting and came out with their opposition so should he still go ahead?

Even when Obi insinuates it'll be economically unwise to do so?
That is medicine after death!
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Sheggy13(m): 3:31pm On Jan 02, 2019
The thing is we're mostly hypocrites in this country. Per adventure, the person that made this same exact statement Obi made was one Tinubu or Oshiomhole, I can bet it that all those saying Peter Obi is right would have changed tune instead and call either of those men unprintable names.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Nobody: 3:31pm On Jan 02, 2019
Jonathan:
Peter obi is a fool
I don't agree with Peter Obi on this minimum wage talk.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jan 02, 2019
Trumps:
Useless Obi why not suggest also that all 36 state Govs should be earning based on their income & also the varpious houses of assembly members.
Thank you.

Very rubbish submission from Peter. In fact, make this suggestion and watch them throw away the entire minimum gist.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Nobody: 3:35pm On Jan 02, 2019
laliga01:
I believe P. Obi is right. Since some states pretend that they can't afford the new minimum wage, different minimum wage should be adopted by different states.
It will help reduces these multiple months non payment of salary
It will also make the states competitive
It will help each states look inward to harness their resources and lastly
This federalism has never worked and is not going to work in Nigeria. We all know these but we prefer to pretend we don't.
Each state needs autonomy for things to work and give some percentage to the federal govt.

The solution to Nigeria's problem is as clear as morning light. We are just not ready.
He is not right until he proposes the payment structure cuts across board.

What I mean is that same should be applied to all civil servants in a state, including the governors.

On this note all state governors should also earn according to he realties. I don't think a governor of Anambra should earn the same as a governor of Borno or Jigawa.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Nobody: 3:39pm On Jan 02, 2019
Trumps:
Useless Obi why not suggest also that all 36 state Govs should be earning based on their income & also the varpious houses of assembly members.
Ah! So I'm not the only one.

Well done Sir
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Nobody: 3:41pm On Jan 02, 2019
Daeylar:
So basically Peter is saying there must be a universal minimum wage?


""Minimum wage doesn’t have to be universal,” he said on Politics Today, a programme of ChannelsTV.
“I don’t believe that somebody in Lagos should earn the same thing as somebody who is in, maybe, Anambra State or somebody in Maiduguri.”


He, however, stressed that it was important to have a federal minimum wage which is the product of proper talks with labour.
What is ideal for him is that: “There has to be a federal minimum, then each state, working within this minimum, can decide where they should go. That is what is obtainable all over the world”""


Why should someone say one thing and in the very next sentence contradict himself?
To be a successful politician you must have the ability to speak from both sides of your mouth fluently.

Enjoy your day.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by ultimateprof: 4:01pm On Jan 02, 2019
I support me.obi
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Nobody: 4:09pm On Jan 02, 2019
I totally agree with obi on this. That's the way it is in USA
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by laliga01: 6:12pm On Jan 02, 2019
greyham:
He is not right until he proposes the payment structure cuts across board.

What I mean is that same should be applied to all civil servants in a state, including the governors.

On this note all state governors should also earn according to he realties. I don't think a governor of Anambra should earn the same as a governor of Borno or Jigawa.
It's quite cumbasome. Of a problem to be honest. So many wrong decisions had been made in the past and it's seems almost impossible to correct.
Amongst all the govt workers, the civil servants are the ones suffering the most.
Until governors, senators and other appointees started earning according to minimum wage, they will keep taking the civil servants for granted.

There is so much benefit in govt and that's why we are not thinking progressively once we get a govt position.
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Rajman45(m): 7:28pm On Jan 02, 2019
For the first time, i think Peter Obi is making sense..
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Daeylar(f): 7:48pm On Jan 02, 2019
greyham:
To be a successful politician you must have the ability to speak from both sides of your mouth fluently.

Enjoy your day.
Lol grin grin

I think I need to learn this skill. cheesy

Have a nice evening
Re: "Minimum Wage Should Vary From State To State" - Peter Obi by Ayobami7(m): 8:20pm On Jan 02, 2019
好的
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