samsobo24:
Kenyans excuse and failure for advanced bus systems (BRT)

Kaduna,Enugu,IB,Abeokuta and many states all have BRT systems but not as advanced as Lagos

They won't go and develop transport they are busy painting buses!

ISIS is not new phenomon. Russia are dealing with it. CIA double dealing is the problem. Anyway right now the biggest threat to region peace is the lack of stable gov in Somali.Somali gov need all the help to stabilize themselves - and I don't see anybody helping them apart from Turkey. The US & UK need to send assist the Somali gov with enough money to be able to fight terror. They also need to stop distrusting kenya intention in Southern Somali and work with KDF to kick the remaining ALshabaab.

Jonraid:
The situation is now getting more complex with now the emergence of ISIS in Somalia who are looking to be Al Shabab's headache as they want piece of the Somalia nation too.

Jonraid:
The situation is now getting more complex with now the emergence of ISIS in Somalia who are looking to be Al Shabab's headache as they want piece of the Somalia nation too.

Every war has its casualties.We shouldn't make fun of our soldiers when they lose men.That's one thing I don't like about some Nigerians especially ipobists.They laugh when Nigerian soldiers die fighting boko haram.That's just wrong.

Somalia can't be a viable state. All autonomous regions should be given statehood. Jubaland which was created inside Kenya's statehouse should be given recognition of an independent state. That's the only way we can deal with terrorism. Somalis can't exist in a country arrangement,they are more loyal to their clans as opposed to their own country. I don't see project Somalia working but project Jubaland,Puntland and Somaliland can work for the benefit of all Somalis!

rvp2018:
ISIS is not new phenomon. Russia are dealing with it. CIA double dealing is the problem. Anyway right now the biggest threat to region peace is the lack of stable gov in Somali.Somali gov need all the help to stabilize themselves - and I don't see anybody helping them apart from Turkey. The US & UK need to send assist the Somali gov with enough money to be able to fight terror. They also need to stop distrusting kenya intention in Southern Somali and work with KDF to kick the remaining ALshabaab.

abbeg:
Every war has its casualties.We shouldn't make fun of our soldiers when they lose men.That's one thing I don't like about some Nigerians especially ipobists.They laugh when Nigerian soldiers die fighting boko haram.That's just wrong.

War on terrosim is full of double dealing and double crossing
It is the USA who supplied this terrorist with weapons just look at Taliban.

Terrorists deserve no mercy. I bet it's only Nigeria and a handful of a few African countries that can feel what Kenya is going through. It's a bit funny hearing citizens of nations who haven't confronted terrorism think that they can defeat terrorism within a day.No world power has defeated terrorism yet.

abbeg:
Every war has its casualties.We shouldn't make fun of our soldiers when they lose men.That's one thing I don't like about some Nigerians especially ipobists.They laugh when Nigerian soldiers die fighting boko haram.That's just wrong.

That is I think is viable position. Jubbaland need to secede and self-govern from Kismayu.

Jonraid:
Somalia can't be a viable state. All autonomous regions should be given statehood. Jubaland which was created inside Kenya's statehouse should be given recognition of an independent state. That's the only way we can deal with terrorism. Somalis can't exist in a country arrangement,they are more loyal to their clans as opposed to their own country. I don't see project Somalia working but project Jubaland,Puntland and Somaliland can work for the benefit of all Somalis!

Barcanistaca and his many nairaland accounts always trying to keep this thread alive

Jonraid:
Terrorists deserve no mercy. I bet it's only Nigeria and a handful of a few African countries that can feel what Kenya is going through. It's a bit funny hearing citizens of nations who haven't confronted terrorism think that they can defeat terrorism within a day.No world power has defeated terrorism yet.

Anywhere there's terrorism,there are people within the government who are benefitting directly or indirectly from it...

It's sad!!

kikuyu1:
I'm very very sorry to say we'll never be completely rid of terrorism-we're in an undeclared with the West. This is how they hit us:with delusional mindless Jihadis unknowingly serving an agenda of economic sabotage and inflicting maximum emotional trauma. Its not just Kenya or Africa but a global strategy of the World Elites.

Terrorists will always exist in small or large proportions. They can't be brought down to zero ever.

kikuyu1:
Goel,tell us who is arming your naxalites and what is their agenda!

Naxalites are communists supported by Soviet Union in past. Now, they have little international support.

Their aim is to overthrow India's government to create Marxist Leninist state in India with totally socialist government. India's economy already suffered for decades because of socialism which keeps everyone equally poor. We don't want that again.

Socialist Russia was a failure and China succeded only after 1978 dropping it. India did in 1993 and has become 11 times bigger in nominal GDP despite steep currency fall.

kikuyu1:

Correct,my bad! Truly,you're a military observer as you say to know this info-do you know which country exactly? India is a gamechanger in global weapons supply:your products are tested from the scorching Thar to the frozen Himalayas. Your countryman here told how the Tejas 2 was cold started around the Siachen glacier-successfully! Your indig weapons systems,the arty,choppers and missiles will change the game sooner rather than later.

Game changer is an exaggeration for tactical weapons as they are possessed by Western & Eastern countries too. Only thing India can provide is low cost. For now, even India is struggling with critical technologies like high bypass turbofans. Making aircraft engines is more difficult job than space rocket engines. Since I'm an engineer from related field, we can discuss technicalities too if you want.

Real game changers are India's anti missile shield and strategic weapons though which will probably never be exported. One or two ships of Kolkata or Vizag class destroyers with S5 submarine can wipe out many navies of Africa alone.
Anyways, if you're a fan of helicopters, here is lch, advanced version of Rudra.
[img]https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files./2015/10/idpcdvx.jpg?w=762&h=424[/img]
[img]https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files./2015/10/529856.jpg?w=762&h=522[/img]
[img]https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files./2015/10/1.jpg?w=762&h=489[/img]
[img]https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files./2015/10/boozxnt.jpg?w=762&h=489[/img]

More photos:

HAL’s LCH is a 5.5-tonne class combat helicopter. The helicopter is designed to carry out dedicated combat roles such as air defence. (HAL Photo)

LCH during its cold weather trials. (HAL Photo)


LCH fires rockets in weaponized configuration. (HAL Photo)

LCH during hot and high altitude trials. (HAL Photo)


LCH during its cold weather trials. (HAL Photo)


LCH during its hot weather trials. (HAL Photo)

You want greenery?

You get Abuja.

The whole place was virtually a jungle before construction started...so greenery is everywhere

Jonraid:
Terrorists deserve no mercy. I bet it's only Nigeria and a handful of a few African countries that can feel what Kenya is going through. It's a bit funny hearing citizens of nations who haven't confronted terrorism think that they can defeat terrorism within a day.No world power has defeated terrorism yet.

So you know this and yet you are quick to laugh at Nigeria

Danielnino00:
You want greenery?

You get Abuja.

The whole place was virtually a jungle before construction started...so greenery is everywhere

Wow! Greenery everywhere!

Lot's of dirt to clean up at 14 Riverside!

kikuyu1:


Sorry dude,no idea.

Okay bro.

rvp2018:
When have we asked for your cowardly help. We don't need witchcraft in war. Alshabaab have never occupied one territory of kenya. We kicked them all the way to Kismayu and installed a Ogaden proxy gov - who takes instruction from Kenya. They can of course launch cowardly gorrilla attacks and ran. But they can never hold ground like Boko Haram does in Nigeria. Not possible for Alshabab to defend a territory against Kenya.

guy stop beating your chest and don't pray for terrorist groups to mark out your country as part of their caliphate
just four gunmen, poorly equipped and you are already saying stupid things, like al shabab could never hold lands in Kenya like how boko haram holds lands in Nigeria ..bla bla bla

who is Kenya??
Kenya don't even have the kind of airforce Nigeria has Pakistan ,Iraq, and Syria almost lost all their lands to the Islamic state even rho all of them are among top 25 strongest militaries in the world
Nigeria has done well to weaken boko haram to the extent shekau does not even appear in videos any more

still another terrorist group has risen from the ashes dragging fighters from around Africa to come here and fight for the creation of a caliphate

darfay:



You mean this toothpicks?


Hahahah

Cc forgiveness,obaaderemi,kazikazi,jaycent

Kenya force are Soo funny look how skinny they're

NigeriaIsDoomed:
They all look starved and malnourished

Seriously No wonder they lined up themselves like assembly ground to fight terrorists

jaycent:
Seriously No wonder they lined up themselves like assembly ground to fight terrorists

Nigerian armed forces

Danielnino00:
You want greenery?

You get Abuja.

The whole place was virtually a jungle before construction started...so greenery is everywhere

Show me a road like this in Abuja.



Or landscape like this..........

obaaderemi:

Thanks @ bolded. But I don't think you've simplified anything here.You've not said anything anyone with basic knowledge of world affairs does not know.
Can you kindly point out where I said anything to suggest the bolded? I merely gave the lie to your claim that poorer economies always grow faster than richer economies by citing the examples of relatively poor economies such as Venezuela (-1.7& GDP growth), South Africa (-7% growth), and let me add Jamaica (0.5% GDP growth).

I used the word usually for a very good reason. Those countries are facing depressions. Moreover, with an exception of South Africa, all of them are living in more advanced stages of society. You guys could face famine if same thing happened to you.

They are "exceptional" countries.
Or other case could be that most of low income people live in Asia and Oceania and they are growing.

obaaderemi:
And Nigeria (2.3%gdp growth) despite the fact that we are just exiting recession. Unless you don't know how debilitating an economic recession can be. That 2% growth is an upward trajectory that deserves some applause. Heck,we dropped below 1%! And I sincerely believe that upward trajectory is due to the fact that the Nigerian economy is more diverse than previously thought.

My judgement over recession and revival was about oil prices and Nigeria's consumer class.

If you can give a figure of economic diversity, I'll appreciate. Otherwise, I'll quote a source for it.

obaaderemi:
If I didn't know better, I would think so @ bolded. But trust me I know better and I can tell people apart, especially sane people from the less so. No,your opinions to me, are honest so far.

Well, if things were that straight forward, there wouldn't have been argument between Africans for having most beautiful places.

obaaderemi:
Thanks@bolded. To answer your question: I would say the decline to 2% was due not only to oil crash but also a poorly judged monetary policy by the present government. I told you we declined far below 1%. For us to be at 2% now is an upward swing and a clear evidence of the resilience of the Nigerian economy. 2019 is even going to be better according to projections.

Well, if you're asserting so, I'll step back a bit. I know about Asian economies primarily and get an overview of other economies. For Nigeria, I had opinion for oil & young population coz Nigeria's economy is dominated by oil.

obaaderemi:
I guess I have answered this. We once were among the three fastest growing economies in the world a mere 5years ago. If we Are at 2% now from -8%, pray tell me, how is that an indication that our income is declining? We are gradually getting back on our feet. That said, all is said is said on that matter, please.

Population growth rate of India: 1.09%
GDP growth rate of India: 7.4%
So, GDP per capita growth rate: ~6.8%

Population growth rate of world: 1.09%
GDP growth rate of world: 2%
So, GDP per capita growth rate: ~1.8-1.9%

Population growth rate of Nigeria: 2.58%
GDP growth rate of Nigeria: 2%
So, GDP per capita growth rate: ~ -1.3%


Look you are running high here because I called 6% growth rate impressive. It sucks when your population growth rate is greater than 1.75%. So, is Pakistan and so is Nigeria in this aspect.

Moreover, maintaining the growth for just 5-7 years isn't enough either. Economic booms which are known to transform countries are known to run for decades, not short lived blooms.
And governments design their policies and economies for it, struggle for it.

obaaderemi:
Don't be silly, our politicians don't share pictures of airports and infrastructure and such things. And if they do,it's not different from what your politicians do as well. To suggest that the private sector has little contribution to infrastructure and development in Africa is plain ignorant.

Well, I've found individual project basis flaunting from Twitter. They might be fanboys if not politicians. In East, it goes statistically, in West, it goes subjectively.

A figure of local infrastructure firms would reflect better. So, how do Nigerian road authorities work? Do they assign tender.

obaaderemi:
Right now,one of the largest petrochemical refineries in the world is nearing completion in Lagos and it's privately funded. There are numerous projects time would not permit me to list here.

You could use the figures like Nigeria's infrastructure budget or length of paved roads and highways completed every year.

obaaderemi:
We have largely contained Boko Haram @ 1st bolded. They are confined to north eastern part of Nigeria. They mainly attack villages. Our economic cities have always been free from the menace of Boko Haram. Terrorism is Hydra headed and not easy to finish as you think. Kudos to our military.

Well congrats for what you've done. I'm just asking for minimizing the effect enough to attract more investments. Minimal terrorism ensures safety to assets. So, more investments will be there.

obaaderemi:
@2nd bolded: you sounded like IMF with its ignorance about thinking it knows what works for all poor countries. One size never fits all,bro. Clothing and steel industries are not the easiest and most profitable industries that could solve Nigeria's unemployment and economic problems quickly. What would work for Nigeria is agriculture and agro allied industries that can add value to what we produce. These will not only feed our people but also provide employment and foreign exchange. Light manufacturing of things we need would also help.

Those are supplementary things which can't rapidly add up things as easy you think. Moreover, Nigeria has to lift lot people outta poverty. Profit margin is minimal in agriculture. Technological advancements for military & space programs or expertise of other sort of research won't be there.

Clothes, steel & concrete etc. industries produce commodities consumed nearly by everyone with little fluctuation in demand and give relatively better profit margin, it will be ideal being deported from developed and upper middle income countries now.. Lightweight industries will bloom themselves with demand.

If you want to do anything, no country has achieved economic boom without focusing on heavy industry i.e., boilers, reactors & machinery.
Agricultural stuff can be imparted. When India and SE Asia underwent green revolution, worlds had scarcity of food which doesn't exist today.
Countries who make finished products have better growth, trade balance and life than ones producing raw material.

obaaderemi:
You are right @ bolded. I took the liberty to correct your error. Nigeria is Africa's largest economy.

The Kenyans would not like your closing shot especially the bolded.

Let's a bit honest to both. Kenya and Ghana have been far more successful in socio economics. Nigeria's per capita income is close only because of oil. Without it, its no different than Congo or Niger.

On other hand, its only substantial country in Africa and destined to lead Africa one day even if caught up with world average.
It's population with a reasonable income will allow it to emerge as a significant power on world map.

Goel:

I used the word usually for a very good reason. Those countries are facing depressions. Moreover, with an exception of South Africa, all of them are living in more advanced stages of society. You guys could face famine if same thing happened to you.

They are "exceptional" countries.
Or other case could be that most of low income people live in Asia and Oceania and they are growing.

My judgement over recession and revival was about oil prices and Nigeria's consumer class.

If you can give a figure of economic diversity, I'll appreciate. Otherwise, I'll quote a source for it.

Well, if things were that straight forward, there wouldn't have been argument between Africans for having most beautiful places.

Well, if you're asserting so, I'll step back a bit. I know about Asian economies primarily and get an overview of other economies. For Nigeria, I had opinion for oil & young population coz Nigeria's economy is dominated by oil.

Population growth rate of India: 1.09%
GDP growth rate of India: 7.4%
So, GDP per capita growth rate: ~6.8%

Population growth rate of world: 1.09%
GDP growth rate of world: 2%
So, GDP per capita growth rate: ~1.8-1.9%

Population growth rate of Nigeria: 2.58%
GDP growth rate of Nigeria: 2%
So, GDP per capita growth rate: ~ -1.3%


Look you are running high here because I called 6% growth rate impressive. It sucks when your population growth rate is greater than 1.75%. So, is Pakistan and so is Nigeria in this aspect.

Moreover, maintaining the growth for just 5-7 years isn't enough either. Economic booms which are known to transform countries are known to run for decades, not short lived blooms.
And governments design their policies and economies for it, struggle for it.

Well, I've found individual project basis flaunting from Twitter. They might be fanboys if not politicians. In East, it goes statistically, in West, it goes subjectively.

A figure of local infrastructure firms would reflect better. So, how do Nigerian road authorities work? Do they assign tender.

You could use the figures like Nigeria's infrastructure budget or length of paved roads and highways completed every year.

Well congrats for what you've done. I'm just asking for minimizing the effect enough to attract more investments. Minimal terrorism ensures safety to assets. So, more investments will be there.

Those are supplementary things which can't rapidly add up things as easy you think. Moreover, Nigeria has to lift lot people outta poverty. Profit margin is minimal in agriculture. Technological advancements for military & space programs or expertise of other sort of research won't be there.

Clothes, steel & concrete etc. industries produce commodities consumed nearly by everyone with little fluctuation in demand and give relatively better profit margin, it will be ideal being deported from developed and upper middle income countries now.. Lightweight industries will bloom themselves with demand.

If you want to do anything, no country has achieved economic boom without focusing on heavy industry i.e., boilers, reactors & machinery.
Agricultural stuff can be imparted. When India and SE Asia underwent green revolution, worlds had scarcity of food which doesn't exist today.
Countries who make finished products have better growth, trade balance and life than ones producing raw material.

Let's a bit honest to both. Kenya and Ghana have been far more successful in socio economics. Nigeria's per capita income is close only because of oil. Without it, its no different than Congo or Niger.

On other hand, its only substantial country in Africa and destined to lead Africa one day even if caught up with world average.
It's population with a reasonable income will allow it to emerge as a significant power on world map.

Let's ignore everything else for a moment and let the bolded part sink..............











































Thank you.

Goel:

Terrorists will always exist in small or large proportions. They can't be brought down to zero ever.

Naxalites are communists supported by Soviet Union in past. Now, they have little international support.

Their aim is to overthrow India's government to create Marxist Leninist state in India with totally socialist government. India's economy already suffered for decades because of socialism which keeps everyone equally poor. We don't want that again.

Socialist Russia was a failure and China succeded only after 1978 dropping it. India did in 1993 and has become 11 times bigger in nominal GDP despite steep currency fall.

Game changer is an exaggeration for tactical weapons as they are possessed by Western & Eastern countries too. Only thing India can provide is low cost. For now, even India is struggling with critical technologies like high bypass turbofans. Making aircraft engines is more difficult job than space rocket engines. Since I'm an engineer from related field, we can discuss technicalities too if you want.

Real game changers are India's anti missile shield and strategic weapons though which will probably never be exported. One or two ships of Kolkata or Vizag class destroyers with S5 submarine can wipe out many navies of Africa alone.
Anyways, if you're a fan of helicopters, here is lch, advanced version of Rudra.
[img]https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files./2015/10/idpcdvx.jpg?w=762&h=424[/img]
[img]https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files./2015/10/529856.jpg?w=762&h=522[/img]
[img]https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files./2015/10/1.jpg?w=762&h=489[/img]
[img]https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files./2015/10/boozxnt.jpg?w=762&h=489[/img]

More photos:

HAL’s LCH is a 5.5-tonne class combat helicopter. The helicopter is designed to carry out dedicated combat roles such as air defence. (HAL Photo)

LCH during its cold weather trials. (HAL Photo)


LCH fires rockets in weaponized configuration. (HAL Photo)

LCH during hot and high altitude trials. (HAL Photo)


LCH during its cold weather trials. (HAL Photo)


LCH during its hot weather trials. (HAL Photo)

I thought you knew! Its been an open secret for over a decade that Christian missionaries are arming your tribal Naxalites. I've seen reports of them actively involved in jungle arms.

Break-India: The aim of the missionaries is to exploit the existing fault-lines along religion, caste, community, language, ethinicity and race. Exploiting the faultiness there have been conversion factories that have been set up. The aim is to create hatred and divide the dominant non-converted community.

Read more at: https://www.oneindia.com/india/how-christian-missionaries-are-funding-naxals-their-urban-friends-to-break-india-2713576.html

Also,see the increased use of not only larger but improved IEDs with a directed blast through the vehicle floor. Look at the size of the crater left by this IED in Chattisgarh last year! It flipped the MRAP!

NEW DELHI: Security forces conducting operations in Left Wing Extremism (LWE) affected states have been directed to be extra vigilant in view of enhanced IED attacks and an all-time high recovery of over 5,000 kg of the deadly bombs in these areas.

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/51895387.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

rvp2018:
Any man who goes to describe other men can only be gay. What do you mean not coordinate enough. Do you understand Kenya security sector to know if it was not coordinated. WestGate was a mess - police officer ended exchanging friendly fire - they had to come out and then army went in - MOSSAD went in - and it was total mess. This was was great.

Riverside is not Westland. It seperated by a river. It in Zone 4 - (Lower Spring Valley, Riverside Drive, Kileleshwa, Kilimani, Thompson and
Woodley/Ngong Road) - all those places are mainly residential with max of 4 floors - I think recently upto 8 floors were allowed.

Tha zone 4 - was previously -planned for Single dwelling or maisonettes or town houses on 0.05 ha. Flats were dissallowed.

In 2000s - They allowed flats - of 4 floors if you could connect to main sewer.

And I think last decade it was changed to 8 floors max. That is why DUSIT Nairobi was about 7 floors.

Nairobi is well planned with a lot of greenery as you can see. You cannot just build your slum anywhere. Or erect any structure. There are very many by-laws including how much land you need to reserve for trees.

How dare you call me gay,most of the people there were men.Its either they were so skinny or were fat with big trousers.

Women I saw were also women looking old with just big butt.

Dusit hotel is a few drive away from Westland


Now answer,why were the buildings so few and scanty.I didn't talk about building height but out of anxiety, you told buildings were only not more than 7 floors.I saw a building not less than 10 floors,so what else.

This is to tell you Nairobi is just a business city for Kenya and not East Africa

Ikoyi,one of the best residential area still has a lot of buildings with High rise.I was shocked at a point when I was just seeing forests without any buildings.

You can't be having too much natural forest in a place where you claim to be developed, it shows there was nothing( building ) to be erected there.



What if it were BH,this as shown Nairobi is weak.And you yap ....street surveillance .....software face recognition camera.........

PROVERBZ:
guy stop beating your chest and don't pray for terrorist groups to mark out your country as part of their caliphate
just four gunmen, poorly equipped and you are already saying stupid things, like al shabab could never hold lands in Kenya like how boko haram holds lands in Nigeria ..bla bla bla

who is Kenya??
Kenya don't even have the kind of airforce Nigeria has [/b]Pakistan ,Iraq, and Syria almost lost all their lands to the Islamic state even rho all of them are among top 25 strongest militaries in the world
Nigeria has done well to weaken boko haram to the extent shekau does not even appear in videos any more

still another terrorist group has risen from the ashes dragging fighters from around Africa to come here and fight for the creation of a caliphate

NIGGA,WHAT AIRFORCE!? Name and list your[b] operational aircraft. In other words leave out your squadron of rusted out Jaguars. Stop talking through your arse,srsly!

samsobo24:
How dare you call me gay,most of the people there were men.Its either they were so skinny or were fat with big trousers.

Women I saw were also women looking old with just big butt.

Dusit hotel is a few drive away from Westland


Now answer,why were the buildings so few and scanty.I didn't talk about building height but out of anxiety, you told buildings were only not more than 7 floors.I saw a building not less than 10 floors,so what else.

This is to tell you Nairobi is just a business city for Kenya and not East Africa

Ikoyi,one of the best residential area still has a lot of buildings with High rise.I was shocked at a point when I was just seeing forests without any buildings.

You can't be having too much natural forest in a place where you claim to be developed, it shows there was nothing( building ) to be erected there.



What if it were BH,this as shown Nairobi is weak.And you yap ....street surveillance .....software face recognition camera.........

There are no empty land in Nairobi or forests....it just that we invested in lots of trees.You are not allowed to build the whole plot.The roads are linned by trees.You are not allow to cut trees.Nairobi except for gazetted forests and parks became full long time ago.That is why most real estate is happening 40 to 60kms away.The whole of Riverside has houses..and land there is close to 2-3B naira an acre.You normal buy a single dwelling then demolish.The richest neighborhood of Nairobi are leafy and full of trees.The air so fresh.In Nairobi Eastland you find Nigeria like mess... concrete jungle.

Goel:

I used the word usually for a very good reason. Those countries are facing depressions. Moreover, with an exception of South Africa, all of them are living in more advanced stages of society. You guys could face famine if same thing happened to you.

They are "exceptional" countries.
Or other case could be that most of low income people live in Asia and Oceania and they are growing.

My judgement over recession and revival was about oil prices and Nigeria's consumer class.

If you can give a figure of economic diversity, I'll appreciate. Otherwise, I'll quote a source for it.

Well, if things were that straight forward, there wouldn't have been argument between Africans for having most beautiful places.

Well, if you're asserting so, I'll step back a bit. I know about Asian economies primarily and get an overview of other economies. For Nigeria, I had opinion for oil & young population coz Nigeria's economy is dominated by oil.

Population growth rate of India: 1.09%
GDP growth rate of India: 7.4%
So, GDP per capita growth rate: ~6.8%

Population growth rate of world: 1.09%
GDP growth rate of world: 2%
So, GDP per capita growth rate: ~1.8-1.9%

Population growth rate of Nigeria: 2.58%
GDP growth rate of Nigeria: 2%
So, GDP per capita growth rate: ~ -1.3%


Look you are running high here because I called 6% growth rate impressive. It sucks when your population growth rate is greater than 1.75%. So, is Pakistan and so is Nigeria in this aspect.

Moreover, maintaining the growth for just 5-7 years isn't enough either. Economic booms which are known to transform countries are known to run for decades, not short lived blooms.
And governments design their policies and economies for it, struggle for it.

Well, I've found individual project basis flaunting from Twitter. They might be fanboys if not politicians. In East, it goes statistically, in West, it goes subjectively.

A figure of local infrastructure firms would reflect better. So, how do Nigerian road authorities work? Do they assign tender.

You could use the figures like Nigeria's infrastructure budget or length of paved roads and highways completed every year.

Well congrats for what you've done. I'm just asking for minimizing the effect enough to attract more investments. Minimal terrorism ensures safety to assets. So, more investments will be there.

Those are supplementary things which can't rapidly add up things as easy you think. Moreover, Nigeria has to lift lot people outta poverty. Profit margin is minimal in agriculture. Technological advancements for military & space programs or expertise of other sort of research won't be there.

Clothes, steel & concrete etc. industries produce commodities consumed nearly by everyone with little fluctuation in demand and give relatively better profit margin, it will be ideal being deported from developed and upper middle income countries now.. Lightweight industries will bloom themselves with demand.

If you want to do anything, no country has achieved economic boom without focusing on heavy industry i.e., boilers, reactors & machinery.
Agricultural stuff can be imparted. When India and SE Asia underwent green revolution, worlds had scarcity of food which doesn't exist today.
Countries who make finished products have better growth, trade balance and life than ones producing raw material.

Let's a bit honest to both. Kenya and Ghana have been far more successful in socio economics. Nigeria's per capita income is close only because of oil. Without it, its no different than Congo or Niger.

On other hand, its only substantial country in Africa and destined to lead Africa one day even if caught up with world average.
It's population with a reasonable income will allow it to emerge as a significant power on world map.

You're still new and yet to realise these guys have no real facts,figures or stats to back up their belief they're beyond Kenya-just feelings,delusional feelings,tbh from years of hearing the 'African Giant' rammed into their ears. We,on the other hand have sources from UNHDI,World Bank Human Capital Index,total port throughput,per capita consumption comparisons (which,btw they hate like vampires in the shadow of a cross at high noon!)and our own economic sectoral breakdowns showing just how woeful they are:instead of thanks they screech and shout even louder!
Tbh,some of their 'stats' are pure comedy! Their own stats-gen,a complete clown whose name you should know,Yemi Kale, claimed their agriculture sector was 80 bn$,bigger than Mexico and even Brazil!! Yet they import most food and mainly grow low value tubers like cassava,yams and ofc peanuts.
@your last bolded:duck and/or pray!

jaycent:
Seriously No wonder they lined up themselves like assembly ground to fight terrorists

Stop deceiving yourselves. You were aided by a Briton



Cc kazikazi

kikuyu1:


You're still new and yet to realise these guys have no real facts,figures or stats to back up their belief they're beyond Kenya-just feelings,delusional feelings,tbh from years of hearing the 'African Giant' rammed into their ears. We,on the other hand have sources from UNHDI,World Bank Human Capital Index,total port throughput,per capita consumption comparisons (which,btw they hate like vampires in the shadow of a cross at high noon!)and our own economic sectoral breakdowns showing just how woeful they are:instead of thanks they screech and shout even louder!
Tbh,some of their 'stats' are pure comedy! Their own stats-gen,a complete clown whose name you should know,Yemi Kale, claimed their agriculture sector was 80 bn$,bigger than Mexico and even Brazil!! Yet they import most food and mainly grow low value tubers like cassava,yams and ofc peanuts.
@your last bolded:duck and/or pray!

Wait until they diversify and revive their agriculture..they already in top 5 worldwide with their dead agriculture..80B dollars is better than Brazil, Indonesia,Russia and Canada's...only maybe less than China,India $ US.All they grow is tubers & millet...which they consume internally...and still import 22B plus worth of rice, wheat, maize and sugar.They are possibly the world largest food importer.Yemi kale is crazy.Just imagine how they must be feeding..100B dollars worth of food.

NairobiWalker:


Show me a road like this in Abuja.



Or landscape like this..........

Even those most of Abuja roads have Good side walks , drainage and world class landscaping and the first pic you posted is nothing close to what we have in Abuja, i will still go ahead in showing U what we gat here in Abuja .
1) MAITAMA
2) ASOKORO
3) kATAMPE
4) WUSE11

NairobiWalker:


Show me a road like this in Abuja.



Or landscape like this..........

You want more? Who even dares comparing Abuja and any East African city ?
1) Wuse1
2) Katampe
3) Maitama
4) Wuse2

68816419:

Even those most of Abuja roads have Good side walks , drainage and world class landscaping and the first pic you posted is nothing close to what we have in Abuja, i will still go ahead in showing U what we gat here in Abuja .
1) MAITAMA
2) ASOKORO
3) kATAMPE
4) WUSE11

The roads are okay but greenery is sh1t.

This is the kind of sh1tty landscaping you find in lower middlesclass parts of Nairobi.

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