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Readonee35L:
The motor na Track car?
Or it's a Twin turbo Engine running jet fuel
All this story here self

I tire o. Aunty Radu sells the Lucas booster for 2k per bottle, and one bottle is used on a full tank of gas. So this guy fills his tank 20 times a month?

Edit: 7k, actually.

HeavenlyBang:
I tire o. Aunty Radu sells the Lucas booster for 2k per bottle, and one bottle is used on a full tank of gas. So this guy fills his tank 20 times a month?

Thought I saw 6k.

rationalmind:
Thought I saw 6k.

Brain fart, it's actually 6k9. Expensive.
How much come be the fuel na?

HeavenlyBang:
Brain fart, it's actually 6k9. Expensive.
How much come be the fuel na?

nwanneni:
acura mdx,2nd gen
Everyday car.got it?

Oga go sleep.
Acura mdx 2nd gen
40k octane booster monthly.
Does the car use the octane booster as fuel(maybe you fill the tank with octane booster only ) or you still buy fuel in the tank aside 40k octane booster .
So in a year the person spends #480,000 on octane booster alone aside fuel and even the vehicle maintenance on ordinary mdx.

Unless the car is a track car running racing fuel to attain the highest hp as possible. No mdx will use 40k booster in a month .

Readonee35L:
Oga go sleep.
Acura mdx 2nd gen
40k octane booster monthly.
Does the car use the octane booster as fuel(maybe you fill the tank with octane booster only ) or you still buy fuel in the tank aside 40k octane booster .
So in a year the person spends #480,000 on octane booster alone aside fuel and even the vehicle maintenance on ordinary mdx.

Unless the car is a track car running racing fuel to attain the highest hp as possible. No mdx will use 40k booster in a month .

read between the lines,i said i know someone that does,not me.
So i am actually passing the information i got from him over.
I don't know much about japmobiles

nwanneni:
ok i get you now.
I know someone that buys octane booster worth 40k monthly.so i tell you,it's no easy journey.but you will catch up,atleast you sound well informed.
Once more,kudos.
I like people that dare to be different,even though i would have been happier if you got the LOGO BENZ
Goodluck bro!

I smell lies

sKeetz:
I smell lies

Did you still buy your G?

Readonee35L:
Na me go enlighten una .

Nwaneni, he will enjoy the car if he is in Lagos. Last last him go dey cross border once in a while go buy premium fuel for Ghana as some Lagos guys do. Or he will run octane boosters in the car. If not a corolla will pass you when the pings start at 3k rpm.
Readone35L, abeg school the guy.
I have bought a gallon of xylene for mixing my fuel after my last sojourn to the east. Octane boosters are more expensive, so I figured I'd mix a bit of xylene to boost the octane. Still waiting on Sooperrescue to give the formula for making in-house octane boosters.
Chai, I won't forget the look the corolla guy gave me when he passed me and my x was pinging while struggling to keep up. It was humiliating. Make I catch that corolla again.

9icetoo:
Nwaneni, he will enjoy the car if he is in Lagos. Last last him go dey cross border once in a while go buy premium fuel for Ghana as some Lagos guys do. Or he will run octane boosters in the car. If not a corolla will pass you when the pings start at 3k rpm.
Readone35L, abeg school the guy.
I have bought a gallon of xylene for mixing my fuel after my last sojourn to the east. Octane boosters are more expensive, so I figured I'd mix a bit of xylene to boost the octane. Still waiting on Sooperrescue to give the formula for making in-house octane boosters.
Chai, I won't forget the look the corolla guy gave me when he passed me and my x was pinging while struggling to keep up. It was humiliating. Make I catch that corolla again.

I'd be careful with stuff like this.

9icetoo:
Nwaneni, he will enjoy the car if he is in Lagos. Last last him go dey cross border once in a while go buy premium fuel for Ghana as some Lagos guys do. Or he will run octane boosters in the car. If not a corolla will pass you when the pings start at 3k rpm.
Readone35L, abeg school the guy.
I have bought a gallon of xylene for mixing my fuel after my last sojourn to the east. Octane boosters are more expensive, so I figured I'd mix a bit of xylene to boost the octane. Still waiting on Sooperrescue to give the formula for making in-house octane boosters.
Chai, I won't forget the look the corolla guy gave me when he passed me and my x was pinging while struggling to keep up. It was humiliating. Make I catch that corolla again.

Contact radautoworks for the xylene mixture ratios.

sKeetz:
I smell lies

from who?definitely not me.
If there is a lie,then it came from his angle,not mine.
I've never owned an mdx

Since I've owned my 07 M35, I haven't really had the chance to put the pedal to the metal on full throttle!
This early morning around 5ish (still dark, with streets lights) on my way to Dei Dei market to buy a basket of tomatoes from those farmers at a very cheap rate, I finally let the car fly.

Boy oh boy...it was ecstatic!
The sound of the V6 Engine, the adrenaline rush and the stability at 200km per hour on the Kubwa free-way was out of this world!
It almost felt I was racing one of those fast cars in a video game!

Kingsteve:
Since I've owned my 07 M35, I haven't really had the chance to put the pedal to the metal on full throttle!
This early morning around 5ish (still dark, with streets lights) on my way to Dei Dei market to buy a basket of tomatoes from those farmers at a very cheap rate, I finally let the car fly.

Boy oh boy...it was ecstatic!
The sound of the V6 Engine, the adrenaline rush and the stability at 200km per hour on the Kubwa free-way was out of this world!
It almost felt I was racing one of those fast cars in a video game!

Kubwa area!!!
Tuale!

freezy4me:
Good choice brother. My 08 G35 is on the way too, can't be more happier.

How did you make the order bro?

9icetoo:
Nwaneni, he will enjoy the car if he is in Lagos. Last last him go dey cross border once in a while go buy premium fuel for Ghana as some Lagos guys do. Or he will run octane boosters in the car. If not a corolla will pass you when the pings start at 3k rpm.
Readone35L, abeg school the guy.
I have bought a gallon of xylene for mixing my fuel after my last sojourn to the east. Octane boosters are more expensive, so I figured I'd mix a bit of xylene to boost the octane. Still waiting on Sooperrescue to give the formula for making in-house octane boosters.
Chai, I won't forget the look the corolla guy gave me when he passed me and my x was pinging while struggling to keep up. It was humiliating. Make I catch that corolla again.

So, I've been doing research on this.
Use this calculator.
http://www.motorsportsracingfuels.com/OctaneCalculator.html
Desired octane rating: 92
Min octane rating: 87 (Nigerian fuel is probably worse but it's a good start)
Max octane rating: 117 (octane rating of Xylene)
Desired gallons is the total amount of fuel you want in your tank after the mixture (20 gallons for most sedans)

For every 10 litres of the total mix you're doing, add 30ml of ATF. Xylene apparently kills lubricants in gasoline, so you need to balance it back so it doesn't eat at your fuel assembly.

Give us feedback.

Edit: According to all mixture formulas I've seen so far, you'd need to use about 1.5 gallons (5L) of Xylene on an 80L tank to raise it from 89 RON to 91 RON.

That said, there's a guy who says he used the 444ml can of octane booster and manage to stop pinging, so I'm not sure. Could be a placebo effect? Could be that pinging still occurs but just inaudibly?

HeavenlyBang:
I'd be careful with stuff like this.

It is Toulene, diesel and atf but I can't find the formula yet. Nicetoo, this week will be great and I will get it for you. The formula is great and it does wonders for the engine. Even small quantity of Toulene will make changes to the pinging but to be on the safe side, mix it well

A won chemistry student ....

The simple thing and most appropriate would have been ethanol and converting it to its petrol derivative of ethene.

How do you go about it CASSAVa abundant in Nigeria. You just utilise the haber-bosch process to get your gas and condense it which can be locally fabricated at a token.

nurey:
A won chemistry student ....

The simple thing and most appropriate would have been ethanol and converting it to its petrol derivative of ethene.

How do you go about it CASSAVa abundant in Nigeria. You just utilise the haber-bosch process to get your gas and condense it which can be locally fabricated at a token.

You are testing my Chemistry acumen . Cassava as fuel converted to Ethanol is feasible, derivatives from Cassava chips and there are many companies competing to use the product as their raw materials but we are bothered with Premium fuel and its substitute since Dangote has shown that he is scamming us with the shifting of commencement date and intending to produce Euro 5 emissions fuel in 2021. Who needs Euro 5 emission fuel in 2021 when we already have Euro 6 in Toyotas, Peugeot, Fiat, Range Rovers?

Readonee35L:
The motor na Track car?
Or it's a Twin turbo Engine running jet fuel
All this story here self

I guess he was referring to me. I have Ben travelling quite a bit and to be honest, a full tank of fuel requires octane booster of about 7k to avoid the pings on long journeys. Now if I travel every weekend and use up two tanks of fuel for to and fro, that's about 14k of octane boosters in one weekend. Multiply that by four and you see why it could easily add up to 40k and more. To reduce the expense and preserve my engine, I opted or a cheaper alternative which is to use xylene. So far so good. I am well aware that it doesn't have the lubricants in normal pms but I make up for that by adding fuel treatment at each fillip.
Xylene is 2k a liter and I bought 25liters. I only use 1/2 a liter to treat a full tank and I don't get any pings with just 1/2 a liter.
So far so good.
I will follow soperrescues guideline on how to mix it up.
Trust me, that ping can be infuriating. Knowing you can't stomp on the pedal in anger when a gtr comes right beside you can do your head in.
I'd be the first on the queue if any filling station decides to sell premium fuel. These crap fuel are really ruining engines. A lot of people don't even know when their engine is pinging. They just drive on and on and on.

HeavenlyBang:
So, I've been doing research on this.
Use this calculator.
http://www.motorsportsracingfuels.com/OctaneCalculator.html
Desired octane rating: 92
Min octane rating: 87 (Nigerian fuel is probably worse but it's a good start)
Max octane rating: 117 (octane rating of Xylene)
Desired gallons is the total amount of fuel you want in your tank after the mixture (20 gallons for most sedans)

For every 10 litres of the total mix you're doing, add 30ml of ATF. Xylene apparently kills lubricants in gasoline, so you need to balance it back so it doesn't eat at your fuel assembly.

Give us feedback.

Edit: According to all mixture formulas I've seen so far, you'd need to use about 1.5 gallons (5L) of Xylene on an 80L tank to raise it from 89 RON to 91 RON.

That said, there's a guy who says he used the 444ml can of octane booster and manage to stop pinging, so I'm not sure. Could be a placebo effect? Could be that pinging still occurs but just inaudibly?

The guy could be right. I use that product advertised by aunty radu and the ping disappears instantly but its expensive. I tried the cheap route once end route to Enugu and I nearly wept. I used the STP product. I ended up needing three of it to stop the pings. Each cost 1500. That's 4500 worth for a full tank. I was down to almost half tank when I added the last one. My heart was in my mouth along the stretch between isuochi and nnpc filling station at Enugu. I added the last one at nnpc and drove to Abakaliki without any more drama. Mind, the stretch between isuochi and that nnpc mega station is mostly uphill and car was loaded. Car is a second gen MDX.

@HeavenlyBang

I’m sure I must have missed something because if xylene cost 2k per litre (according to 9icetoo) and about 5litres is required for a 80lites mixture.

The implication is that 10k of xylene would be required which is way more than Aunty Radu octane booster

Again, I want to believe I’m not reading this right.

Kindly clarify

Part sellers and kazeem and mechanics, get ready you guys will get more money

HeavenlyBang:
So, I've been doing research on this.
Use this calculator.
http://www.motorsportsracingfuels.com/OctaneCalculator.html
Desired octane rating: 92
Min octane rating: 87 (Nigerian fuel is probably worse but it's a good start)
Max octane rating: 117 (octane rating of Xylene)
Desired gallons is the total amount of fuel you want in your tank after the mixture (20 gallons for most sedans)

For every 10 litres of the total mix you're doing, add 30ml of ATF. Xylene apparently kills lubricants in gasoline, so you need to balance it back so it doesn't eat at your fuel assembly.

Give us feedback.

Edit: According to all mixture formulas I've seen so far, you'd need to use about 1.5 gallons (5L) of Xylene on an 80L tank to raise it from 89 RON to 91 RON.

That said, there's a guy who says he used the 444ml can of octane booster and manage to stop pinging, so I'm not sure. Could be a placebo effect? Could be that pinging still occurs but just inaudibly?

Seen. I will do one liter at a time. Cos adding just 0.5 liter and the johnsen STP octane booster (N1.5k) stopped the pinging.
I will do that when I get back. To the peeps wondering how much damage xylene and toluene will do to fuel lines. Relax, premium fuel contains a higher percentage of toluene and xylene. The pms in your car already contains a good portion of xylene and toluene. That is what boosts the octane rating. Even alcohol boosts octane rating. alcohol has a worse effect on fuel lines than xylene and toluene. Fuel lines are designed to resist the effects of toluene and toluene and in Europe and USA where they have e85 PMS which is 15% alcohol, their fuel limes would have melted off. Although cars whose fuel limes and engines were not designed to handle e85 fuel will have a sticker telling you not to pour it in.

9icetoo:
Seen. I will do one liter at a time. Cos adding just 0.5 liter and the johnsen STP octane booster (N1.5k) stopped the pinging.
I will do that when I get back. To the peeps wondering how much damage xylene and toluene will do to fuel lines. Relax, premium fuel contains a higher percentage of toluene and xylene. The pms in your car already contains a good portion of xylene and toluene. That is what boosts the octane rating. Even alcohol boosts octane rating. alcohol has a worse effect on fuel lines than xylene and toluene. Fuel lines are designed to resist the effects of toluene and toluene and in Europe and USA where they have e85 PMS which is 15% alcohol, their fuel limes would have melted off. Although cars whose fuel limes and engines were not designed to handle e85 fuel will have a sticker telling you not to pour it in.

Yes, 1L per tank should be enough to get our octane rating up to like 89 RON or so. It's basically a 1.5% mixture ratio and most engines have a 30% ratio tolerance for Xylene.

Be careful with that stuff, bro. It's carcinogenic. In fact, I wouldn't store 25L of the thing anywhere near me.

Here's a relevant passage on the matter.

So I drive a car that requires 93 min. Octane. Me, being the skeptic started thinking about Gasoline blends around the world. I realized in my travels (and I am extremely well traveled), that pretty much every other country in the world has one grade of Gas vs. America and some parts of Europe and even the rest of the world. It really comes down to the mixture. After 8 months of exhaustive research, I thought I’d try my hand at mixing up a batch of Octane Booster. Now I do have chemistry experience (I’m a do it all kind of guy). So being divorced and bored, I thought I would try some things.

First my research led me to how mixtures of Gas differ in America vs. the rest of the world. Here’s what I found.

RON: Research Octane Number – Simply put, what your octane level is at 600 RPM. Pretty much meaningless in my book.

MON: Motor Octane Number – Again, research based on variable timings at 900 RPM. (Moderate acceleration). This is the number I decided to concentrate on.

Tests pretty much show that MON is usually around 10 points under RON.

Octane, what exactly is it? Basically, Octane is a measure of the compressibility of a fuel before it detonates. The higher, the better. This means more power, less knock, etc.

You ever see that little sticker on gas tanks that says (R+M)/2 method? What does that mean? (RON+MON)/2 giving you the mean octane level. or minimal theoretical octane of the gas. So how do we raise it? It’s a simple matter of mathematics and research.

Increase one significantly and the mean Octane Level Goes up. Now keep in mind that as you raise Octane, you’re going to automatically Advance the timing on a car if it has an automatic Timing System (when the spark plugs fire in the cylinders based on compression). You will need to remember that by increasing octane alone, you’re going to need to add additional lubricant.

If done wrong or if you use the wrong chemicals, you pretty much screw up your catalytic converter and O2 sensors.

So after much research, this is what I came up with:

The key is to increase the MON enough that running 87 octane gas in a high-compression engine gives you an equivalent of 93 or higher at a more reasonable price.

So we need to look at what Octane Booster additives are in our gas. My research gave me one such example: (Don’t you love MSDS datasheets).

Now here’s the kicker: Xylene requires lubricant additive while Toulene does not, although, it would help to add just a very small amount to protect seals, rubber, etc.

For example: AKI (Anti-Knock Index) = (R+M)/2 = What Octane you’re supposed to be buying at the pump.

For example, if we mixed 1 Gallon of 93 Octane Gas + 1 Gallon of Xylene, we’re looking at: (93+117)/2 = Effective Octane or AKI of:105.5 Now you can see how it all plays together.

We just want to boost our AKI to above 93.

So here’s where a little math comes in:

Let’s say our target octane is: 95 (A reasonable number that isn’t going to do any damage to any engine), we’d only need a .068 ratio of Xylene to 1 gallon of Gasoline at 87 octane.

We’re going to solve for x in the following equation:

87+117/x=95 (Xylene)

or 87 +114/x=95 (Toulene)

So we’ve got an 8 point jump we need to make in AKI (or effective octane)

This is where it gets fun and wow, what a savings. There’s another option that adds a few points of octane (Xylene or Xylol) [this is what I use]

Remember, we’re already working with AKI numbers, so assuming a 1:x ratio, we need to figure out x per gallon of gas to see if it’s worth it.

So here goes:

To bump 87 Octane to 95 Octane Requires 8.7 Fluid Ounces (US) per gallon of Gasoline.

There are 128 Ounces in a Gallon.

A 55 Gallon Drum per barrel of Xylene: 500.00

This works out to: .07 cents per ounce = .50 per gallon.

Gas Prices are (last checked): 3.61 for 87 Octane and 3.91 for Premium (still cheap for Florida) keep in mind that these are prices for the lowest stations in the area paying cash, Credit Cards add .10 per gallon. Using a credit card for the transaction (which I do all the time adds an extra .10 per gallon). So this is basically a savings of .50 per gallon. My last fill-up at 93 octane was 4.28 per gallon.

So how well does it work? Proof is in the pudding. (Twin Turbo Brabus SL65[that’s a Twin Turbo V-12]).

55 Gallon Drum of Xylene split with 3 people. Gives me a savings of over $1230.00 per year. I drive a lot.

.07 @ 8.7 Oz * .07 (.61) +3.61 = 4.21 per gallon * 20 = 84.20 per tank with a higher octane level than what would have been guaranteed at the pump.

I get higher octane + higher performance. Considering I’ve been running my car at this level for the last 8 years I’d have to say my savings are pretty substantial.

Occasionally, I add some Marvel Mystery Oil to the mix for extra lubrication, but what I do is for every 2 tanks of my special mixture, I run a tank at full regular 93 gasoline straight from the pump.

I’ve never had a broken or leaked seal, or any issues otherwise.

Here’s my secret recipe.. keep in mind, this is per gallon. So multiply * the number of gallons you put in.

Here is a formula on making your own octane boost

MAKE YOUR OWN OCTANE BOOSTHow to make your own octane booster (this is the basic formula of one of the popular octane booster products). To make eight 16 ounce bottles (128 oz = 1 gal):
100 oz of xylene / xylol (95-100% purity) for octane boost
.25 oz of mineral spirits (cleaning agent)
.25 oz of transmission fluid (lubricating agent)

I use this as my personal concoction of cleaning agent + lube “octane booster with cleaning agent *and* lubricating agent!”. Light turbine oil can be substituted for transmission fluid.

Here is a formula for blending fuel also – it is (#oct x gals) + (#oct x gals) / total gals = oct – an example using the (r+m)/2 rating and a ten gallon tank – we will figure the xylene to be 117 octane – (87 oct x 10 gallons) + (117 oct x 1.5 gals) / 10 gals = 104.55 octane – simple, huh?

Just as a point of note.. Every car I’ve ever come across can run up to 110 octane for a few years if you you just do the mix 2 times in a row followed by one tank of premium 91+ gas.

No problems, insane horsepower, no problems.

Cheaper.. yes.

If you’d like to split a drum with someone, post it on the comments and I’ll put you in contact with them.

A brabus can handle it, so does my S550 and even my Chevy 2003 Vortex S-10. I get better mileage, better performance, and better fuel economy.

Been doing it for years. Still, no problems. (3 years, 75K miles)

Do this at your own risk. I hold no accountability for this, but I can say that my cars run extremely well with no knocks, pings, or anything else.

I can definitely tell you that my personal experience on Chevys, MBs, and my friend’s experiences on Fords, Chevys, Bimmers, and Audis have been the same. No problems, but then again, we’re running higher AKIs than most… do the math to make your required mix. No matter how you look at it, you win.

Keep the money in your pocket. No crazy chemistry here.. just straight math.

Brought to you by someone who just decided Gas costs too much. It’s not rocket science people.. Just a little (ok.. a lot) of research + will power and guts.. but I’ve done the hard work and put a serious amount of cars on the line to prove it.

cooldudeng:
@HeavenlyBang

I’m sure I must have missed something because if xylene cost 2k per litre (according to 9icetoo) and about 5litres is required for a 80lites mixture.

The implication is that 10k of xylene would be required which is way more than Aunty Radu octane booster

Again, I want to believe I’m not reading this right.

Kindly clarify

1L of Xylene per fill up should be enough to get your car's performance at 100%.

kingreign:
Part sellers and kazeem and mechanics, get ready you guys will get more money

Nothing dey happen. Do you know the kind of hydrocarbons that are mixed into the fuel you buy? Worse high octane hydrocarbons like Benzene are in your fuel, if you don't know. Just add the needed lubrication to the mixture and the car will be fine.

HeavenlyBang:
Yes, 1L per tank should be enough to get our octane rating up to like 89 RON or so. It's basically a 1.5% mixture ratio and most engines have a 30% ratio tolerance for Xylene.

Be careful with that stuff, bro. It's carcinogenic. In fact, I wouldn't store 25L of the thing anywhere near me.

Here's a relevant passage on the matter.

Thanks for this.

cooldudeng:
Thanks to this forum and @HeavenlyBang continuous post on the Infiniti G series

I just secured a 2010 Infiniti G37 Coupe. I can't wait for the car to arrive in Nigeria

I would have gone for the sedan but I kinda love the shape of the coupe better. Was actually shopping for a 2008 but landed a 2010 instead

I know there are reservations around the type of fuel to use but we will be alright las las

Can't believe I walked away from shopping for a Benz. Guess, I just wanted to be different!

Any 2010 G37 coupe owner in the house?

Congrats.
How much is it landing for?

freezy4me:
Good choice brother. My 08 G35 is on the way too, can't be more happier.

Congrats to you too.
How much is yours coming for?
I wanna get one this year too.

9icetoo:
Seen. I will do one liter at a time. Cos adding just 0.5 liter and the johnsen STP octane booster (N1.5k) stopped the pinging.
I will do that when I get back. To the peeps wondering how much damage xylene and toluene will do to fuel lines. Relax, premium fuel contains a higher percentage of toluene and xylene. The pms in your car already contains a good portion of xylene and toluene. That is what boosts the octane rating. Even alcohol boosts octane rating. alcohol has a worse effect on fuel lines than xylene and toluene. Fuel lines are designed to resist the effects of toluene and toluene and in Europe and USA where they have e85 PMS which is 15% alcohol, their fuel limes would have melted off. Although cars whose fuel limes and engines were not designed to handle e85 fuel will have a sticker telling you not to pour it in.

Update us on your Xylene usage.

HeavenlyBang:
Update us on your Xylene usage.

So far so good. One liter mixed with 30 ml transmission oil and 20 ml diesel fuel does the trick.
I don't use the mixture when doing town driving though. Only use it when I travel with family which is often these days.
Ping is gone but like I posted in another thread, car doesn't ping when I travel alone (without load) even without the xylene mixture.
But it does feel faster when it has the xylene mixture in it and the fuel economy is always above 13 mpg when it's got xylene in it around town.