₦airaland Forum

toksbaba2000:
Bleep America..... when Donald trump shut down the government heaven did not fall and no one complain about it.. Why complaining about Nigeria President. I believe I will be bash here and dere but don't let's look inferior in the hands of white, they give no Bleep about us.

somehow:
If anyone is against this decision, he or she should head to the court.

Prove beyond doubt with the Constitution if you think the president broke the Constitution.

Simple.

We should be civil in disagreement.

baby124:
US embassy is not Trump or Obama. It’s just like Nigerian Embassy in US issuing statement on the government shutdown. Is that not ridiculous? What concerns them with the government of the US? Is that what they are there for? US embassy or government has no power or say in another sovereign nations affairs. Not to talk of common embassy officials. This is not even a whitehouse statement.

somehow:
If anyone is against this decision, he or she should head to the court.

Prove beyond doubt with the Constitution if you think the president broke the Constitution.

Simple.

We should be civil in disagreement.

toksbaba2000:
Bleep America..... when Donald trump shut down the government heaven did not fall and no one complain about it.. Why complaining about Nigeria President. I believe I will be bash here and dere but don't let's look inferior in the hands of white, they give no Bleep about us.

Cluv:
nonsense, they are not talking of the cjn offense ooo. They should face thier business and leave us alone.

UMAR911:
Still on the Suspension of the CJN, Ghani Rotimi wrote:

Part of the problem with our public debate is lack of knowledge of the facts driving the debate and a lot of sentiments. So on this issue I will try to explain what the President meant by the former CJN and his legal team using their privileged position to undermine the judicial process.

When this matter first came up, the CJN did not appear in Court. Why? He could not be served personally because he rejected service! Now no other person in this country can try that and get away with it but the CJN did.

When in Court, his array of SANs filed a motion challenging jurisdiction of the CCT and insisted it must be heard. The CCT said it will hear it but the accused must first be arraigned before any question on jurisdiction and this is elementary law that the accused must first take a plea because that is how proceedings are commenced. The former CJN still did not show up and his legal team instead filed an Appeal. Will he say he was not aware of proceedings that was carried even by international media houses? Of course not but he was simply abusing his power by ignoring judicial proceedings! No other person can try that and get away with it.

While the appeal was pending, several Courts Ex-Parte granted injunctions restraining a competent constitutional tribunal from doing its work even though they had no appellate jurisdiction over the tribunal!!! Even the industrial Court granted a restraining Order!!! Industrial Court!!!! All sorts of Courts were issuing all manners of Court Orders to protect the CJN who until now had ignored a quasi-judicial proceeding.

In other words, the continuous stay of the former CJN in office was impacting and impairing the ability of the CCT to do its constitutional job. Then the government brought a Motion on Notice seeking that the CJN steps aside and the President replaces him with the next in line. Apparently, the same motion was brought Ex-parte and for ex-parte applications the other parties need not know. As we now know, that application was granted.

On Wednesday, we witnessed the unbelievable!!!! The legal team of the former CJN filed a Motion to Stay of proceedings at the Court of Appeal however, there was no Ruling from the Lower Tribunal in the Record of Appeal! Ask any lawyer who has done any work at the Court of Appeal, an Appeal cannot be entered without a copy of the ruling or judgment included in the Record of Appeal because it is at the heart of the case at the Court of Appeal! That is why you are there- to complain about the Ruling or Judgment! The only alternative is to apply under the Court of Appeal Rules to Depart from the Rules!

In this case no such application was made but somehow, the appeal was not only entered within hours with Appeal number given, the motion filed based on that appeal was slated for hearing! Counsel to former CJN admitted to this irregularity and addressed the Court for 2hrs urging that his Motion for Stay be granted. Again, ask any lawyer, no ordinary Nigerian can get this because this procedure and practice is unknown to law. The Court however, reserved its ruling for 30th of January but granted an Interim Stay till that date which in the circumstances was the right thing to do.

What is the point of all this? Evidently, the former CJN was using his position and office to push the entire judicial system beyond its limits in defense of himself. Whereas he alone was the first to admit that he forgot to remember that he had $700,000 in a domiciliary account. He alone could not explain why he had not touched his salary for 18 months! He alone was later discovered to have $3,000,000 elsewhere!!! And someone says ending such acts of abuse of office to shield questionable acts is a fight against the judiciary? Is the judiciary the harbinger of such? This is the same judiciary that produced erudite Jurists like Justice Niki Tobi, Justice Kayode Esho, Obaseki JSC and many many other eminent men!!! Can the conduct just chronicled stand beside the records of such greats? Please let no one ridicule the judiciary.

Finally, beyond our support for one political narrative or another, we must always ask ourselves what kind of Country do we want to build for ourselves and our children. PMB has done his part and even if he loses or wins in February, it does not change much because he has achieved almost all his heart desires. The man is 76!!! But we the young ones are still here with a country to live in! If we support such behavior then we are sowing the seed for an unfair, unjust and ultimately a pariah state!

In sum, the CCT gave an Order which to my mind is the proper Order to give in the circumstances. Let no man be allowed to throw the weight of his office around in defense of himself especially a lawyer and in this case a respectable Justice of the Supreme Court. The bench is a sacred chamber and a holy ground occupied by men, great in their courage, boundless in their knowledge and unsurpassed in their moral rectitude. No one has said Onnoghen JSC is not but in the light of the allegations against him and his admissions/responses let him prove it just the way an ordinary man will because we are all equal before the law.

UMAR911:
Still on the Suspension of the CJN, Ghani Rotimi wrote:

Part of the problem with our public debate is lack of knowledge of the facts driving the debate and a lot of sentiments. So on this issue I will try to explain what the President meant by the former CJN and his legal team using their privileged position to undermine the judicial process.

When this matter first came up, the CJN did not appear in Court. Why? He could not be served personally because he rejected service! Now no other person in this country can try that and get away with it but the CJN did.

When in Court, his array of SANs filed a motion challenging jurisdiction of the CCT and insisted it must be heard. The CCT said it will hear it but the accused must first be arraigned before any question on jurisdiction and this is elementary law that the accused must first take a plea because that is how proceedings are commenced. The former CJN still did not show up and his legal team instead filed an Appeal. Will he say he was not aware of proceedings that was carried even by international media houses? Of course not but he was simply abusing his power by ignoring judicial proceedings! No other person can try that and get away with it.

While the appeal was pending, several Courts Ex-Parte granted injunctions restraining a competent constitutional tribunal from doing its work even though they had no appellate jurisdiction over the tribunal!!! Even the industrial Court granted a restraining Order!!! Industrial Court!!!! All sorts of Courts were issuing all manners of Court Orders to protect the CJN who until now had ignored a quasi-judicial proceeding.

In other words, the continuous stay of the former CJN in office was impacting and impairing the ability of the CCT to do its constitutional job. Then the government brought a Motion on Notice seeking that the CJN steps aside and the President replaces him with the next in line. Apparently, the same motion was brought Ex-parte and for ex-parte applications the other parties need not know. As we now know, that application was granted.

On Wednesday, we witnessed the unbelievable!!!! The legal team of the former CJN filed a Motion to Stay of proceedings at the Court of Appeal however, there was no Ruling from the Lower Tribunal in the Record of Appeal! Ask any lawyer who has done any work at the Court of Appeal, an Appeal cannot be entered without a copy of the ruling or judgment included in the Record of Appeal because it is at the heart of the case at the Court of Appeal! That is why you are there- to complain about the Ruling or Judgment! The only alternative is to apply under the Court of Appeal Rules to Depart from the Rules!

In this case no such application was made but somehow, the appeal was not only entered within hours with Appeal number given, the motion filed based on that appeal was slated for hearing! Counsel to former CJN admitted to this irregularity and addressed the Court for 2hrs urging that his Motion for Stay be granted. Again, ask any lawyer, no ordinary Nigerian can get this because this procedure and practice is unknown to law. The Court however, reserved its ruling for 30th of January but granted an Interim Stay till that date which in the circumstances was the right thing to do.

What is the point of all this? Evidently, the former CJN was using his position and office to push the entire judicial system beyond its limits in defense of himself. Whereas he alone was the first to admit that he forgot to remember that he had $700,000 in a domiciliary account. He alone could not explain why he had not touched his salary for 18 months! He alone was later discovered to have $3,000,000 elsewhere!!! And someone says ending such acts of abuse of office to shield questionable acts is a fight against the judiciary? Is the judiciary the harbinger of such? This is the same judiciary that produced erudite Jurists like Justice Niki Tobi, Justice Kayode Esho, Obaseki JSC and many many other eminent men!!! Can the conduct just chronicled stand beside the records of such greats? Please let no one ridicule the judiciary.

Finally, beyond our support for one political narrative or another, we must always ask ourselves what kind of Country do we want to build for ourselves and our children. PMB has done his part and even if he loses or wins in February, it does not change much because he has achieved almost all his heart desires. The man is 76!!! But we the young ones are still here with a country to live in! If we support such behavior then we are sowing the seed for an unfair, unjust and ultimately a pariah state!

In sum, the CCT gave an Order which to my mind is the proper Order to give in the circumstances. Let no man be allowed to throw the weight of his office around in defense of himself especially a lawyer and in this case a respectable Justice of the Supreme Court. The bench is a sacred chamber and a holy ground occupied by men, great in their courage, boundless in their knowledge and unsurpassed in their moral rectitude. No one has said Onnoghen JSC is not but in the light of the allegations against him and his admissions/responses let him prove it just the way an ordinary man will because we are all equal before the law.

UMAR911:
Still on the Suspension of the CJN, Ghani Rotimi wrote:

Part of the problem with our public debate is lack of knowledge of the facts driving the debate and a lot of sentiments. So on this issue I will try to explain what the President meant by the former CJN and his legal team using their privileged position to undermine the judicial process.

When this matter first came up, the CJN did not appear in Court. Why? He could not be served personally because he rejected service! Now no other person in this country can try that and get away with it but the CJN did.

When in Court, his array of SANs filed a motion challenging jurisdiction of the CCT and insisted it must be heard. The CCT said it will hear it but the accused must first be arraigned before any question on jurisdiction and this is elementary law that the accused must first take a plea because that is how proceedings are commenced. The former CJN still did not show up and his legal team instead filed an Appeal. Will he say he was not aware of proceedings that was carried even by international media houses? Of course not but he was simply abusing his power by ignoring judicial proceedings! No other person can try that and get away with it.

While the appeal was pending, several Courts Ex-Parte granted injunctions restraining a competent constitutional tribunal from doing its work even though they had no appellate jurisdiction over the tribunal!!! Even the industrial Court granted a restraining Order!!! Industrial Court!!!! All sorts of Courts were issuing all manners of Court Orders to protect the CJN who until now had ignored a quasi-judicial proceeding.

In other words, the continuous stay of the former CJN in office was impacting and impairing the ability of the CCT to do its constitutional job. Then the government brought a Motion on Notice seeking that the CJN steps aside and the President replaces him with the next in line. Apparently, the same motion was brought Ex-parte and for ex-parte applications the other parties need not know. As we now know, that application was granted.

On Wednesday, we witnessed the unbelievable!!!! The legal team of the former CJN filed a Motion to Stay of proceedings at the Court of Appeal however, there was no Ruling from the Lower Tribunal in the Record of Appeal! Ask any lawyer who has done any work at the Court of Appeal, an Appeal cannot be entered without a copy of the ruling or judgment included in the Record of Appeal because it is at the heart of the case at the Court of Appeal! That is why you are there- to complain about the Ruling or Judgment! The only alternative is to apply under the Court of Appeal Rules to Depart from the Rules!

In this case no such application was made but somehow, the appeal was not only entered within hours with Appeal number given, the motion filed based on that appeal was slated for hearing! Counsel to former CJN admitted to this irregularity and addressed the Court for 2hrs urging that his Motion for Stay be granted. Again, ask any lawyer, no ordinary Nigerian can get this because this procedure and practice is unknown to law. The Court however, reserved its ruling for 30th of January but granted an Interim Stay till that date which in the circumstances was the right thing to do.

What is the point of all this? Evidently, the former CJN was using his position and office to push the entire judicial system beyond its limits in defense of himself. Whereas he alone was the first to admit that he forgot to remember that he had $700,000 in a domiciliary account. He alone could not explain why he had not touched his salary for 18 months! He alone was later discovered to have $3,000,000 elsewhere!!! And someone says ending such acts of abuse of office to shield questionable acts is a fight against the judiciary? Is the judiciary the harbinger of such? This is the same judiciary that produced erudite Jurists like Justice Niki Tobi, Justice Kayode Esho, Obaseki JSC and many many other eminent men!!! Can the conduct just chronicled stand beside the records of such greats? Please let no one ridicule the judiciary.

Finally, beyond our support for one political narrative or another, we must always ask ourselves what kind of Country do we want to build for ourselves and our children. PMB has done his part and even if he loses or wins in February, it does not change much because he has achieved almost all his heart desires. The man is 76!!! But we the young ones are still here with a country to live in! If we support such behavior then we are sowing the seed for an unfair, unjust and ultimately a pariah state!

In sum, the CCT gave an Order which to my mind is the proper Order to give in the circumstances. Let no man be allowed to throw the weight of his office around in defense of himself especially a lawyer and in this case a respectable Justice of the Supreme Court. The bench is a sacred chamber and a holy ground occupied by men, great in their courage, boundless in their knowledge and unsurpassed in their moral rectitude. No one has said Onnoghen JSC is not but in the light of the allegations against him and his admissions/responses let him prove it just the way an ordinary man will because we are all equal before the law.

RTSC:
The US embassy is representing the US government in Nigeria. It is America on Nigerian soil.

If Donald Trump wants to take any decision with regards Nigeria, he has to consult the US embassy in Nigeria for information before doing anything.

publicenemy:
How many judges has Donald Trump replace since he became president?


..

A corrupt government telling us how to run our country.

sgd:
“The Embassy of the United States is deeply concerned by the impact of the executive branch’s decision to suspend and replace the Chief Justice and head of the judicial branch without the support of the legislative branch on the eve of national and state elections.

We note widespread Nigerian criticism that this decision is unconstitutional and that it undermines the independence of the judicial branch. That undercuts the stated determination of government, candidates, and political party leaders to ensure that the elections proceed in a way that is free, fair, transparent, and peaceful – leading to a credible result.

We urge that the issues raised by this decision be resolved swiftly and peacefully in accordance with due process, full respect for the rule of law, and the spirit of the Constitution of Nigeria. Such action is needed urgently now to ensure that this decision does not cast a pall over the electoral process.”

https://ng.usembassy.gov/statement-on-the-suspension-and-replacement-of-the-chief-justice/

Westaslave2:
akwungi n'azu

nameo:
Donald Trump shut down the Govt legally and continued negotiating with Congress. In fact, the reason for the shutdown is simply cos Trump can not have not he wanted unitarily without the Congress.

That is a country of law.

It shows the capacity of your brain that you are equating that with this aberration of Nigerian' s President

BlackSpanner:
Very good.
The voice of US embassy, but the hand of Atiku & Trump.
If you know you know.

auwal83:
Compare and contrast suspending and replacing a chief judge with suspending the whole federal government.

When GEJ suspended Sanusi, we asked, what about 2/3rd required from the Senate to remove him? they said, suspension is not the same thing as sack. Emefiele was appointed and confirmed almost immediately by the Senate while SLS investigation was ongoing. No uproar from PDP, Senate or social media noise makers.
GEJ suspended President of Court of appeal, Ayo Salami, against NJC recommendations and several court orders. No uproar or protests. When you ask them about GEJ today, they call him a hero of democracy for conceding defeat in an election he lost woefully after several rigging attempts.
PMB today is a tyrant for obeying a CCT court order. Well, the CJN is suspended not sacked. Nigerians actually deserve the leaders and citizens around them. A civil servant who happened to be an arbiter of the law, has an undeclared $3m in his bank accounts, several houses, claiming he forgot to mention almost N1billion in his assets declaration form and you expect us to look the other way because of the political optics? Something is doing you. You are Nigeria's problem, yes You! . You deserve your leaders and fellow citizens. Couldn't be happier that I got out early.
In saner climes, the CJN would have resigned 3 weeks ago. In an insane country like Nigeria, people who don't have N20k in their accounts are sweating on Facebook, wasting their data to defend him. You all deserve each other.
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nameo:
Has everyone noticed that NO ONE or BODY has so far supported the President on this aberration of his. No one except MURIC, Miyatti Allah, Lai Mohammed and of course his equally slow thinking Nairalander supporters. Which speaks volume.

He is on his own and must be isolated.

ayampissed:
CJN should just step aside that's all.


what I see is the executive arm ain't going back on this decision.

baby124:
Any statement release on Nigeria will come from the US government not the embassy. Embassy has no right to issue this statement. Only travel alerts at the worst. They are not a government in Nigeria or an authority in Nigeria. Let’s keep things in perspective. If Nigerian embassy did the same or even Nigerian government you will be the first to insult them.

byinks:
Tinubu cannot say much, except work silently behind the scenes. He doesn't want to upset his US handlers

slightlyMad:
For those chanting this is just a suspension and still don't understand why Nigeria is boiling because of this.
Nigeria's democracy is being threatened

it is because this is the beginning of the downfall of our democracy.
the next president will weigh this act when deciding how to handle opposition.
Then we will end up in a situation where our constitution will be ignored and presidents will begin to do as they wish
this may get as bad as sealing of court premises to prevent judgements, executing oppositions etc.

We need countries like US, France, UK etc to sanction Nigeria
not just tweet, Nigeria is in grave danger

bender79:
They should mind their business. After all Donald Trump thrives in ilegality if not the worse of any US president

sgd:
“The Embassy of the United States is deeply concerned by the impact of the executive branch’s decision to suspend and replace the Chief Justice and head of the judicial branch without the support of the legislative branch on the eve of national and state elections.

We note widespread Nigerian criticism that this decision is unconstitutional and that it undermines the independence of the judicial branch. That undercuts the stated determination of government, candidates, and political party leaders to ensure that the elections proceed in a way that is free, fair, transparent, and peaceful – leading to a credible result.

We urge that the issues raised by this decision be resolved swiftly and peacefully in accordance with due process, full respect for the rule of law, and the spirit of the Constitution of Nigeria. Such action is needed urgently now to ensure that this decision does not cast a pall over the electoral process.”

https://ng.usembassy.gov/statement-on-the-suspension-and-replacement-of-the-chief-justice/

Viergeachar:
Great.

Buhari must be resisted.

Buharists are loooonatics and lower than animals.