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Janosky:
Deadlytruth your moniker says it all.
"Jehovah's witnesses meet up their expenses by imposing voluntary donations on their members.
They also rely on asking for donations even from outsiders whom they label apostates"
Oturugbeke!!!
What a lying, bigoted clown!

Pharisee dey form Christian , misquoted matt10:3-15 , & rejected Jesus instructions to preach from house to house.
vs11 -14 "As you enter the home , give it your greeting... if anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town"

Is this Pharisee normal?

See liars now denying their own doctrines and practices in real life because the lack of biblical basis of such are being exposed. Don't you people go out in the streets to pester the assumed apostates to donate to your mission in the form of monetary appreciation for your magazines however small the amount they could afford? You think such is a free will donation? I am speaking from experience. Each time I stopped to listen to JWs in the streets in the past, after speaking the next thing is to tell me why I just have to donate to the ministry for the fact that those printing the magazines are spending money to get it done. Why ask me to donate to your magazines when I am yet to even settle down to read it let alone agree with the doctrine being propagated by it? You may deny this to save face here but that doesn't change the truth about what you people are busy doing in the streets. Oturugbeke my nyash!
You exactly are the pharisiac order of today's Christianity! As Jesus said of you people......"Always wanting to appear righteous in the eyes of men, loving to be respected in public hence always putting up a show of outward religiousity to seek the praises of men...."

This is what Matthew 10:3-15 says:

8. Heal the sick, bring the dead back to life, heal those who suffer from dreaded skin diseases, and drive out demons. You have received without paying, so give without being paid.

9. Do not carry any gold, silver, or copper money in your pockets;

10. do not carry a beggar's bag for the trip or an extra shirt or shoes or a walking stick. Workers should be given what they need.

11. When you come to a town or village, go in and look for someone who is willing to welcome you, and stay with him until you leave that place.

12. When you go into a house, say, 'Peace be with you.'

13. If the people in that house welcome you, let your greeting of peace remain; but if they do not welcome you, then take back your greeting.

14. And if some home or town will not welcome you or listen to you, then leave that place and shake the dust off your feet.

The first bolded clearly says that donations must never be accepted from the public during evangelism. But your Pharisiac organization never evangelizes without asking people for donations towards your magazines.
The second bolded shows you people never read the Bible wholly but pick verses and try to explain them in isolation of the rest. Verses 11 and 12 are not telling you to preach from house to house. Rather they are about how you'll find somewhere to be accommodated in the new town before going out to do the evangelism in public places. If verse 11 means house to house preaching as your dubious organization would have us believe, then you would only visit one house in every town since the concluding line of that verse also commands that you remain in that very first house you entered till you leave the town. However, that concluding line only makes sense when looked at from the perspective of accommodation for the evangelist. And that explains why verse 9 commands that they don't take money or clothes along since whoever accommodates them would definitely provide them with food and clothing. Verses 12 and 13 are specific directives on exactly how the evangelist is to find the home willing to accommodate him hence the use of "if they welcome you (i.e. if they allow you put up with them)" rather than if they listen to your message. Get it now?
Jesus himself never went from house to house. He preached from public places where multitudes always gathered around Him.
The gospel according to Luke makes it even clearer. There Jesus specifically asked them not to go from house to house.
Here it is:

3. Go! I am sending you like lambs among wolves.

4. Don't take a purse or a beggar's bag or shoes; don't stop to greet anyone on the road.

5. Whenever you go into a house, first say, 'Peace be with this house.'

6. If someone who is peace-loving lives there, let your greeting of peace remain on that person; if not, take back your greeting of peace.

7. Stay in that same house, eating and drinking whatever they offer you, for workers should be given their pay. Don't move around from one house to another.

8. Whenever you go into a town and are made welcome, eat what is set before you,

9. heal the sick in that town, and say to the people there, 'The Kingdom of God has come near you.'


Ironically you people now go from house to house and you don't heal the sick because according to you the era of miracles is past. But we know such is to cover up the fact that you lack the power of the Holy Spirit.

Janosky:
U can not read the OP's mind, neither can u impose your bigotry on him.

If ,in your bigoted opinion JWs "always relish commendations from the world" is your problem, that's a red flag....

Of a truth u have serious self esteem issues.
Bully like u dey vex say person dey praise him fellow man wey u hate.
Hhmmm

My exposure of the heresies in your doctrines is hitting you hard hence your attacks on my person. I am just feeling fulfilled. The most painful thing to JWs is to denounce their doctrines with scrptural evidence. They can't stand it at all. They feel like fish out of water when you challenge their beliefs. Hahahaha....

TATIME:
You're not the first and you can't be the last person that's fighting against the TRUTH!
When Jesus started Christianity, He made us understand that deceitful workers always dwell on bad reports that's based on rumours about good people, but honest hearted individuals are Jesus' friends so they'll search for the TRUTH, know it and the TRUTH will set them free from rumours and blackmailers.
Jehovah's Witnesses are performing EXCELLENTLY in virtuous works globally today so my friend go and learn from Jesus' statement, He said "a GOOD tree will NEVER produce routine FRUITS and a BAD tree will NEVER produce good FRUITS" Matthew 7:16-19
So it's not how far but how well,
* Jesus was reported by the first century religious title holders as a CULTIST. Matthew 10:25,12:24-27
* They tried to erase His activities from people's minds.Acts 5:28
* They raised a lot of rumours and bad reports about Jesus and His followers. Matthew 26:59-62
* They kept raising touts against Christians. Acts 17:5-9
So my friend all your agitations is FUTILE because the OP has spoken his own mind and it's left to sincere persons to investigate EACH PERSON for himself/herself NOT you or any other blackmailers can stop people from IDENTIFYING true Christianity! Matthew 7:24-27 If God's holy spirit has moved someone to utter statements that can help people to reason, you're the tiniest thing to come out and block their minds! Isaiah 54:17

Jesus was exactly referring to your organization when He warned that false prophets would rise in later days to deceive the elect.
An organization whose doctrines keep changing can't call itself the custodian of truth.
Your Watchtower Society declared loyalty to Adolf Hitler during the persecution of Jews in Germany. The records are published in your own very magazine editions that date back to that time. You only began to hide those editions after your doctrine had changed to semi-pacifist one.
You also initially declared in your Watchtower publication that your founder was to be worshipped as God by members of your organization. The manuscripts are available.

Despite Jesus clearly said no one knows the day of His return, you have predicted several years in which the world would end but all the predictions failed and you began to adjust those dates again. This is common knowledge and not a lie against you by anyone. In your own magazines you predicted an end of the world against 1914. When it failed you shifted the goalpost to 1975 in the next editions. When that failed again, you shifted it to 2000. But this is already 2019. So much for God's organization. Bunch of Antichrists!

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Deadlytruth:
Jesus was exactly referring to your organization when He warned that false prophets would rise in later days to deceive the elect.
An organization whose doctrines keep changing can't call itself the custodian of truth.
Your Watchtower Society declared loyalty to Adolf Hitler during the persecution of Jews in Germany. The records are published in your own very magazine editions that date back to that time. You only began to hide those editions after your doctrine had changed to semi-pacifist one.
You also initially declared in your Watchtower publication that your founder was to be worshipped as God by members of your organization. The manuscripts are available.

Despite Jesus clearly said no one knows the day of His return, you have predicted several years in which the world would end but all the predictions failed and you began to adjust those dates again. This is common knowledge and not a lie against you by anyone. In your own magazines you predicted an end of the world against 1914. When it failed you shifted the goalpost to 1975 in the next editions. When that failed again, you shifted it to 2000. But this is already 2019. So much for God's organization. Bunch of Antichrists!

Please Sir try to cover your face! Google has unraveled your blackmailing.

TATIME:
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] Please Sir try to cover your face! Google has unraveled your blackmailing.

Please try and open your eyes. The same Google has exposed your denial.

Deadlytruth:
See liars now denying their own doctrines and practices in real life because the lack of biblical basis of such are being exposed. Don't you people go out in the streets to pester the assumed apostates to donate to your mission in the form of monetary appreciation for your magazines however small the amount they could afford? You think such is a free will donation? I am speaking from experience. Each time I stopped to listen to JWs in the streets in the past, after speaking the next thing is to tell me why I just have to donate to the ministry for the fact that those printing the magazines are spending money to get it done. Why ask me to donate to your magazines when I am yet to even settle down to read it let alone agree with the doctrine being propagated by it? You may deny this to save face here but that doesn't change the truth about what you people are busy doing in the streets. Oturugbeke my nyash!
You exactly are the pharisiac order of today's Christianity! As Jesus said of you people......"Always wanting to appear righteous in the eyes of men, loving to be respected in public hence always putting up a show of outward religiousity to seek the praises of men...."

This is what Matthew 10:3-15 says:

8. Heal the sick, bring the dead back to life, heal those who suffer from dreaded skin diseases, and drive out demons. You have received without paying, so give without being paid.

9. Do not carry any gold, silver, or copper money in your pockets;

10. do not carry a beggar's bag for the trip or an extra shirt or shoes or a walking stick. Workers should be given what they need.

11. When you come to a town or village, go in and look for someone who is willing to welcome you, and stay with him until you leave that place.

12. When you go into a house, say, 'Peace be with you.'

13. If the people in that house welcome you, let your greeting of peace remain; but if they do not welcome you, then take back your greeting.

14. And if some home or town will not welcome you or listen to you, then leave that place and shake the dust off your feet.

The first bolded clearly says that donations must never be accepted from the public during evangelism. But your Pharisiac organization never evangelizes without asking people for donations towards your magazines.
The second bolded shows you people never read the Bible wholly but pick verses and try to explain them in isolation of the rest. Verses 11 and 12 are not telling you to preach from house to house. Rather they are about how you'll find somewhere to be accommodated in the new town before going out to do the evangelism in public places. If verse 11 means house to house preaching as your dubious organization would have us believe, then you would only visit one house in every town since the concluding line of that verse also commands that you remain in that very first house you entered till you leave the town. However, that concluding line only makes sense when looked at from the perspective of accommodation for the evangelist. And that explains why verse 9 commands that they don't take money or clothes along since whoever accommodates them would definitely provide them with food and clothing. Verses 12 and 13 are specific directives on exactly how the evangelist is to find the home willing to accommodate him hence the use of "if they welcome you (i.e. if they allow you put up with them)"

5. Whenever you go into a house, first say, 'Peace be with this house.'

6. If someone who is peace-loving lives there, let your greeting of peace remain on that person; if not, take back your greeting of peace.

7. Stay in that same house, eating and drinking whatever they offer you, for workers should be given their pay. Don't move around from one house to another.

8. Whenever you go into a town and are made welcome, eat what is set before you,

9. heal the sick in that town, and say to the people there, 'The Kingdom of God has come near you.'

Deadly falsehood lying Pharisee misquoting scriptures,
the house owners accommodation & feeding "donated voluntarily to them (disciples)" on their preaching assignments ,is the replica of today's voluntary donations for Watchtower publications.

In Jesus day nobody was forced to welcome any disciple into his home. Rather the house owner volunteers his resources (feeding & accommodation) for the success of the preaching assignment .

Jesus meant that his disciples should use one house ("not moving from house to house" accommodation base, to preach to everyone in that town they visited.

Jesus taught people free of charge, his disciples did it too, JWs are doing the same.
Lying Pharisee, u are neither forced nor intimidated /pressured to donate anything or even accept any JW publication.

Where the people wey u & your well choreographed TV drama crew done heal?
U know how much your popular mammon loving Televangelists fleece gullible members in the name of miracle.
Lying, bigoted clown twisting God's word !

TATIME:
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] Please Sir try to cover your face! Google has unraveled your blackmailing.

Here is another section of the letter your organization sent to the Nazi Government in declaration of support for Hitler's antagonism the the Jews, The US and Britain.

TATIME:
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] Please Sir try to cover your face! Google has unraveled your blackmailing.

Here is the original text of your letter of "Declaration of facts".

Deadlytruth:
Here is the original text of your letter of "Declaration of facts".

Deadlytruth:
Here is another section of the letter your organization sent to the Nazi Government in declaration of support for Hitler's antagonism the the Jews, The US and Britain.

Hogwash & Trash of a bigot. No truth in your post.
The full content of that Wikipedia post shows that u peddling falsehood. I know the facts.

Janosky:
Deadly falsehood lying Pharisee misquoting scriptures,
the accommodation & feeding "donated voluntarily to them (disciples) on their preaching assignments ,is the replica of today's voluntary donations for Watchtower publications.

In Jesus day nobody was forced to welcome any disciple into his home. Rather the house owner volunteers his resources for the success of the preaching assignment .

Jesus meant that his disciples should use one house ("not moving from house to house" accommodation base, to preach to everyone in that town they visited.

Where the people wey u & your well choreographed TV drama crew done heal?

Lying, bigoted clown twisting God's word !

Even in the face of unequivocal biblical references, this Antichrist still finds a way to deny and twist it to suit his preconceived doctrine.

The first bolded is never the replica of "voluntary" donations to Watchtower publications. It is a total deviation from the Watchtower's approach.
Jesus did not direct them to solicit for accommodation and food from any house they entered. He only asked them to just greet, then wait for the occupants of that house to make the offer spontaneously entirely out of their own volition. But in clear violation of this, your members cleverly solicit for assistance by telling their listeners how their society uses money to finance those magazines hence deserving of assistance from the world. Can't you see the difference still? Why not talk to people and then simply walk away? If your message is really impactful they will on their own discretion spontaneously call you back and offer you assistance. It is this spontaneity that Jesus implied. He never asked the disciples to make the demand first lest they look like beggers in the eyes of the world. Or do you now want to deny again here that you actually solicit financial assistance after introducing your magazines to whoever cares to listen? Do you ever just simply walk away after talking without making the demand for assistance?

In Jesus' days, He and His disciples never directly or indirectly asked for financial assistance from non members of their group. Can you show me a passage where they ever did so after preaching to multitudes? People like Mary Magdalene and others who offered them food and drinks did so 100% spontaneously without any prior demand from the group in the first instance. Moreover the likes of Mary could pass for members of the group too as they had come to believe in Jesus and accepted his Messiahship fully, thus they were not unbelievers donating to Jesus' ministry.

For second bolded; it is clear you lack synthesis. Does any normal person find it sensible to keep relocating from house to house to enjoy accommodation in different houses on getting to a new town? So why should Jesus even find it necessary to advise them against doing so if that is the meaning of that verse as you would have us believe?
Or you think it is easy to find a person willing to accommodate them let alone finding many more to enable them relocate everyday? The fact that Jesus asked them to eat and drink whatever they are offered is a clear indication that the command against house to house movement had to do with with preaching mode and not accommodation seeking mode. If they were to preach from house to house, then would it really be possible for them to eat/drink whatever they are offered in every house they enter as Jesus directed?
If your organization were not of the habit of picking and interpreting verses in isolation, it would have realized that Jesus' earlier observation that "The harvest is ripe, but the labourers are few" is the more reason why evangelism should rather take the form of gathering people in a public place for mass preaching like Himself did, rather than the house to house approach which does not catch a large chunk of the abundantly ripe harvest for which Jesus felt so concerned and worried.
I understand your envy. Even Jesus' miracles were denounced by Pharisees as choreographed drama. So how much less should be expected from the modern day Pharisees? If they are dramas, then what stops the so called God's organization from performing the genuine ones to prove that they are truly the only ones approved? Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof.

Janosky:
Hogwash & Trash of a bigot. No truth in your post.
The full content of that Wikipedia post shows that u peddling falsehood. I know the facts.

That is the content of The Declaration of Facts. Every other thing Wikipedia added to it are their own commentaries on the contents. So there is really nothing more as you would have us believe. I am still coming up with the original text of the Watchtower publication that asserts your founder as a deity deserving of being worshipped by the organization's members.
I am here to disabuse the minds of the innocent and unsuspecting but gullible potential converts of yours. I want them to see for themselves that your organization is the most rotten among all the Christian and quasi-christian groups.

Deadlytruth:
Here is the original text of your letter of "Declaration of facts".

Abeg Sir wetin dem write put inside this one nah? Shebi you see am sey nah everybody fit read wetin Google talk?
Shey na like this your brain shikini reach?

TATIME:
Abeg Sir wetin dem write put inside this one nah? Shebi you see am sey nah everybody fit read wetin Google talk?
Shey na like this your brain shikini reach?

The same Wikipedia which you trusted so much to screenshot and paste its Google search about your group also translated the original text of that declaration to English as you can see. So why are you now trying to insinuate that Wikipedia translation is inaccurate? When it favours you, you rely on information from Wikipedia as authentic. But when information from the same Wikepedia doesn't favour you, you doubt its authenticity and accuracy. Can't you see you are the one suffering from cognitive dissonance (sour grapes syndrome) and shikini brain?

Deadlytruth:
The same Wikipedia which you trusted so much to screenshot and paste its Google search about your group also translated the original text of that declaration to English as you can see. So why are you now trying to insinuate that Wikipedia translation is inaccurate? When it favours you, you rely on information from Wikipedia as authentic. But when information from the same Wikepedia doesn't favour you, you doubt its authenticity and accuracy. Can't you see you are the one suffering from cognitive dissonance (sour grapes syndrome) and shikini brain?

In one word you're saying your ONLY source of bad reports against Jehovah's Witnesses is NOT reliable! So who is the one truly suffering from inconsistency? Is it i who posted information from your own WITNESS whom you wanted to call out against Jehovah's Witnesses or you who simultaneously condemned your own witness claiming it's UNRELIABLE?
You named Google and i quote the same Google only for you to tell the whole world that your source of evidence against Jehovah's Witnesses is WORTHLESS!
You're 100% correct,i'm the one not using my brains Sir!

Deadlytruth:
The first bolded is never the replica of "voluntary" donations to Watchtower publications. It is a total deviation from the Watchtower's approach.
Jesus did not direct them to solicit for accommodation and food from any house they entered. He only asked them to just greet, then wait for the occupants of that house to make the offer spontaneously entirely out of their own volition. But in clear violation of this, your members cleverly solicit for assistance by telling their listeners how their society uses money to finance those magazines hence deserving of assistance from the world. Can't you see the difference still? Why not talk to people and then simply walk away? If your message is really impactful they will on their own discretion spontaneously call you back and offer you assistance. It is this spontaneity that Jesus implied. He never asked the disciples to make the demand first lest they look like beggers in the eyes of the world. Or do you now want to deny again here that you actually solicit financial assistance after introducing your magazines to whoever cares to listen?

In Jesus' days, He and His disciples never directly or indirectly asked for financial assistance from non members of their group.

For second bolded; it is clear you lack synthesis. Does any normal person find it sensible to keep relocating from house to house to enjoy accommodation in different houses on getting to a new town? So why should Jesus even find it necessary to advise them against doing so if that is the meaning of that verse as you would have us believe?
Or you think it is easy to find a person willing to accommodate them let alone finding many more to enable them relocate everyday? The fact that Jesus asked them to eat and drink whatever they are offered is a clear indication that the command against house to house movement had to do with with preaching mode and not accommodation seeking mode. If they were to preach from house to house, then would it really be possible for them to eat/drink whatever they are offered in every house they enter as Jesus directed?

JW magazines /publications are with out charge.
I know say u fit twist am as u want.

To make contribution or not ,it's
the house holder's decision & discretion

The JW worldwide preaching & Bible teaching/ study program is absolutely free of charge .


"And remain in the same house ,eating and drinking what they provide, for the labourer deserves his wages. Do not go from house to house"Luke 10:7
https://biblehub.com/luke/10-7.htm

"Similar instructions were given in the case of the sending out the twelve as missionaries.
One house & family were to be selected as the center of their work"
One house was their base to reach every one from house to house.

"Whoever refuses to receive you or even listen to your Messages, as you leave that house or town" Matt10:14.

"Day after day... from house to house they never stopped teaching & proclaiming the good news"
Acts 5:42.
Lying Pharisee, go look for another lie u go blow for here.

Janosky:
JW magazines /publications are with out charge.
I know say u fit twist am as u want.

To make contribution or not ,it's
the house holder's decision & discretion

The JW worldwide preaching & Bible teaching/ study program is absolutely free of charge .


"And remain in the same house ,eating and drinking what they provide, for the labourer deserves his wages. Do not go from house to house"Luke 10:7
https://biblehub.com/luke/10-7.htm

"Similar instructions were given in the case of the sending out the twelve as missionaries.
One house & family were to be selected as the center of their work"
One house was their base to reach every one from house to house.

"Whoever refuses to receive you or even listen to your Messages, as you leave that house or town" Matt10:14.

"Day after day... from house to house they never stopped teaching & proclaiming the good news"
Acts 5:42.
Lying Pharisee, go look for another lie u go blow for here.

You and your people want to lie to unsuspecting people. Let's see what your organization says about giving to their organization.


Acts 20:35

35 In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’ ”


Watchtower organization has become the weak all of a sudden. Lol

Your leaders even go as far as saying that your happiness will increase when you give Your Jehovah the gift he gave you.Lol.

Prov3:9-10
9 Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops;10 then your barns will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new
wine.

Your leaders had to even list the kind of wealth they expect. Whereas the verse said honour the lord with your wealth, watchtower decided to translate the verse as give jehovah all your wealth and went ahead to list the kind of wealth even though jehovah did not list the kind of wealth o.

We are still looking for the bible verse that says that jehovah will give you happiness in return for the wealth watchtower listed that you gave to him.


Luke 12:15 ESV
And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”


Matthew 6:19-21
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 12:33-34
Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.


1 Timothy 6: 9- 10
But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.



So the same possessions that Jesus Christ said people should sell and give to the needy is the same one watchtower organization wants. Bible warns us about money and being rich now watchtower organization says people should give these money and their riches to their publishing company.

AT THE END OF THE DAY EVERY RELIGION HAS A WAY OF TAXING IT'S MEMBERS.



1 cor 16:1-3
1 Now about the collection for the Lord’s people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. 2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made. 3 Then, when I arrive, I will give letters of introduction to the men you approve and send them with your gift to Jerusalem.

So last last money doesn't fall from the sky for any religion on earth. Members contribute to the development and growth of their religion.
Paul even told them how and where to make these contributions. He also told them for what purpose.

Your religion uses emotional manipulation to coerce their members into donating. Stop accusing others of the same thing.

Deadlytruth:
Here is another section of the letter your organization sent to the Nazi Government in declaration of support for Hitler's antagonism the the Jews, The US and Britain.

instead of reading and meditating on what is written,your presumptuous attitude is blocking the sense in you!
This write-up is simply saying "all that the Nazi government is killing people for is unwarranted since it's part of God's plan to exterminate wrongdoers"
So instead of acting as God's executioner, Jehovah's Witnesses are telling Hitler to allow God's kingdom to do the needy! For your information that's what we're still preaching till today! Daniel 2:44
God's executioner(Jesus Christ) will lead the heavenly armies down here to kill all those who are not ready to live by God's standards. Revelations 19:12-21 So if any government now decides to start killing some innocent people for their faith we'll simply tell such government that we're also in FULL support of justice but our hope lies on God's time NOT human rulers!
Please use your brains to think!

TATIME:
instead of reading and meditating on what is written,your presumptuous attitude is blocking the sense in you!
This write-up is simply saying "all that the Nazi government is killing people for is unwarranted since it's part of God's plan to exterminate wrongdoers"
So instead of acting as God's executioner, Jehovah's Witnesses are telling Hitler to allow God's kingdom to do the needy! For your information that's what we're still preaching till today! Daniel 2:44
God's executioner(Jesus Christ) will lead the heavenly armies down here to kill all those who are not ready to live by God's standards. Revelations 19:12-21 So if any government now decides to start killing some innocent people for their faith we'll simply tell such government that we're also in FULL support of justice but our hope lies on God's time NOT human rulers!
Please use your brains to think!

Like you use your brain to think. Lol

Hairyrapunzel:
Your religion uses emotional manipulation to coerce their members into donating. Stop accusing others of the same thing.

Our own God loves a cheerful giver Sir!
We're not given any forceful law saying we must pay at so and so RATE!
We know that there are many things that's to be done in God's organization and it's VOLUNTARY donations that we're using.Exodus 36:4,5
If your heart does not compels you to bring anything nobody will come and ask you PRIVATELY because what ever you donated grudgingly is unacceptable before JEHOVAH our own God . 2Corinthians 9:7

Hairyrapunzel:
You and your people want to lie to unsuspecting people. Let's see what your organization says about giving to their organization.


Acts 20:35

35 In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’ ”


Watchtower organization has become the weak all of a sudden. Lol

Your leaders even go as far as saying that your happiness will increase when you give Your Jehovah the gift he gave you.Lol.

Prov3:9-10
9 Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops;10 then your barns will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new
wine.

Your leaders had to even list the kind of wealth they expect. Whereas the verse said honour the lord with your wealth, watchtower decided to translate the verse as give jehovah all your wealth and went ahead to list the kind of wealth even though jehovah did not list the kind of wealth o.

We are still looking for the bible verse that says that jehovah will give you happiness in return for the wealth watchtower listed that you gave to him.


Luke 12:15 ESV
And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”


Matthew 6:19-21
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 12:33-34
Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.


1 Timothy 6: 9- 10
But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.



So the same possessions that Jesus Christ said people should sell and give to the needy is the same one watchtower organization wants. Bible warns us about money and being rich now watchtower organization says people should give these money and their riches to their publishing company.

AT THE END OF THE DAY EVERY RELIGION HAS A WAY OF TAXING IT'S MEMBERS.



1 cor 16:1-3
1 Now about the collection for the Lord’s people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. 2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made. 3 Then, when I arrive, I will give letters of introduction to the men you approve and send them with your gift to Jerusalem.

So last last money doesn't fall from the sky for any religion on earth. Members contribute to the development and growth of their religion.
Paul even told them how and where to make these contributions. He also told them for what purpose.

Your religion uses emotional manipulation to coerce their members into donating. Stop accusing others of the same thing.

Acts 20:35 there is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving ".
This lying Pharisee hairy nonsense says its "emotional blackmail" .

Seems like your sense took flight from you tay tay.
Gubernatorial candidate of Yaba/Uselu kolo State......

Hairyrapunzel:
Like you use your brain to think. Lol

I'm trying my best Sir, perhaps you mean i should try harder in making the best use of my brains. But ordinarily i'm using it to the best of my intellect Sir!
It's like these beautiful Queens are nursing the same idea that our God is coming to exterminate FAITHLESS people! Revelations 21:8

Janosky:
Acts 20:35 there is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving ".
This lying Pharisee hairy nonsense says its "emotional blackmail" .

Seems like your sense took flight from you tay tay.
Gubernatorial candidate of Yaba/Uselu kolo State......

In giving to the weak. That's what bible said. Has watchtower become the weak all of a sudden? Have they become weak because they want to receive from weak and strong members? Lol

YES!!! there is a Church in the Eastern part of Nigeria, where their pastor announces before the offering time that "if you have an offering give, but if you don't have it won't stop you from attending church".
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TATIME:
Our own God loves a cheerful giver Sir!
We're not given any forceful law saying we must pay at so and so RATE!
We know that there are many things that's to be done in God's organization and it's VOLUNTARY donations that we're using.Exodus 36:4,5
If your heart does not compels you to bring anything nobody will come and ask you PRIVATELY because what ever you donated grudgingly is unacceptable before JEHOVAH our own God . 2Corinthians 9:7

It's not voluntary if you are told when to give, how to give? Where to give and what to give.

But watchtower listed the kind of wealth they want you to donate na. Lol

TATIME:
In one word you're saying your ONLY source of bad reports against Jehovah's Witnesses is NOT reliable! So who is the one truly suffering from inconsistency? Is it i who posted information from your own WITNESS whom you wanted to call out against Jehovah's Witnesses or you who simultaneously condemned your own witness claiming it's UNRELIABLE?
You named Google and i quote the same Google only for you to tell the whole world that your source of evidence against Jehovah's Witnesses is WORTHLESS!
You're 100% correct,i'm the one not using my brains Sir!

You are like a thief whom a passersby sees breaking into a house at night, and on realizing the passersby saw him, he quickly turns to the passeby and says "I saw you o!". That is the manupulative nature of members and even the leadership of your dubious organization. Scroll back up the thread and read again to see where you were the first to quote Wikipedia in response to my threat to expose your falsehoods. I only threatened to do so without having done so let alone quote any source as reference. But in your guilty conscience you tried to preempt me by posting a screenshot of a Wikipedia page, then I too responded by screenshooting three pages from that same Wikipedia of yours. Then in your next response, you denounced Wikipedia as an incredible source. This prompted me to ask you why then you initially referenced it when you knew it wasn't reliable in translation.
See your shameless lying self? This is the same way you have twisted the Bible and smuggled in lies just to suit your carnal lifestyles. Shame on you manipulatators per excellence.

Janosky:
JW magazines /publications are with out charge.
I know say u fit twist am as u want.

To make contribution or not ,it's
the house holder's decision & discretion

The JW worldwide preaching & Bible teaching/ study program is absolutely free of charge .


"And remain in the same house ,eating and drinking what they provide, for the labourer deserves his wages. Do not go from house to house"Luke 10:7
https://biblehub.com/luke/10-7.htm

"Similar instructions were given in the case of the sending out the twelve as missionaries.
One house & family were to be selected as the center of their work"
One house was their base to reach every one from house to house.

"Whoever refuses to receive you or even listen to your Messages, as you leave that house or town" Matt10:14.

"Day after day... from house to house they never stopped teaching & proclaiming the good news"
Acts 5:42.
Lying Pharisee, go look for another lie u go blow for here.

JW publications might have no price tag just like the publications of every other Christian groups don't. But while all the other Christian groups share their publications freely to the public and walk away without ever asking any member of the public to replenish their purses as a way of encouraging or supporting God's work; the JWs would first introduce the magazine, and then proceed to ask the listener to encourage the organization with financial contributions ostensibly for the encouragement of the organization in propagating God's word.
Now, which between these two is more tantamount to giving out their publications at a charge? Be honest!

If making contributions is the house holder's discretion as you yourself acknowledge, then why does your organization demand for it and even when the person hesitates, you squeeze it out of him by saying 'It doesn't matter however little you can afford"? If he could afford a little, do you think he would have hesitated in the first instance? And after cajoling him with how your organization spends money and therefore deserves assistance, you collect such from him and you term it free will donation?
His will becomes caged at that moment you press him further by saying "Our organization needs to be encouraged...." No normal human being would out of his genuine free will contribute to an organization whose mission and belief structure he is yet to fully understand let alone agree with.
If we agree that some Pentecostal Churches' pastors methods of "encouraging" their members (who are even believers) are tantamount to cajoling them (thus ssuppressing and even eliminating their free will) regardless of the fact that they don't actually use physical force to get them to make these offerings, why then should we expnerate JWs who use the same cajoling methods on even unbelievers in the streets? These Pentecostal pastors equally tell their members that the Church needs to be built and evangelistic missions overseas need to be encouraged. So how exactly are JWs more innocent than them for asking for donations towards encouraging the organization's mission?
Even a roadside beggar only stretches forth his hands and prays. He never picks on persons specifically and tells them "Please however small you can afford to spare me, it doesn't matter". He banks on the absolute free will of his potential givers. So even beggars are more deserving of honour that you people.

Your referencing of Acts 5:42 is still after your usual fashion of picking a verse and trying to interprete it in isolation of the rest of the scriptures.
If you read the entire chapter you would realize that the Apostles had been arrested from the public arena where they were preaching, and then jailed. An angel of the Lord released them and asked them to go back to the temple and preach from there. They only went to the homes of those who had already believed, hence they preached and taught. Teaching is meant for members to grow spiritually while preaching is meant to win unbelievers. But you people go to unbelievers houses to teach them. That is where you are wrong. Secondly, given the spread of the news of the death and actual resurrection of Jesus, a lot of Jews had become potential and actual believers hence the harvest was no longer huge within Jerusalem where it all happened thus the Apostles could afford house to house movement in there. But in gentile lands where unbelievers abounded with some never having heard the gospel, house to house would make a meaningless impact. But your organization regards non members as spiritual gentles among whom the harvest is supposedly bountifully ripe yet you use house to house approach on them. That contradicts even commonsense.
Let us even assume, without conceding that the Apostles used house to house in gentile lands in addition to the mass public approach. Then the question becomes; why then does your organization use only house to house method as against the Apostles who used both? Why do you people choose one and leave the other, yet you boast of following the Bible completely and correctly?

TATIME:
instead of reading and meditating on what is written,your presumptuous attitude is blocking the sense in you!
This write-up is simply saying "all that the Nazi government is killing people for is unwarranted since it's part of God's plan to exterminate wrongdoers"
So instead of acting as God's executioner, Jehovah's Witnesses are telling Hitler to allow God's kingdom to do the needy! For your information that's what we're still preaching till today! Daniel 2:44
God's executioner(Jesus Christ) will lead the heavenly armies down here to kill all those who are not ready to live by God's standards. Revelations 19:12-21 So if any government now decides to start killing some innocent people for their faith we'll simply tell such government that we're also in FULL support of justice but our hope lies on God's time NOT human rulers!
Please use your brains to think!

It seems you have eye sight problem. A part in the letter clearly states that the Watchtower Society is totally in support of Adolf Hitler's war against Big business in London and New York since these big business are the sources of oppression which people suffer. Another line says that the ideals which Adolf Hitler was pursuing during that time of war resonates perfectly with the Watchtower's mission and vision.
Please go and see an optician or an opthalmologist first, then reread the translation before you comment on it.
But wait o, isn't it the same translation you just denied its credibility that you are now trying to explain to your defense? Are you sure you are normal at all?

TATIME:
I'm trying my best Sir, perhaps you mean i should try harder in making the best use of my brains. But ordinarily i'm using it to the best of my intellect Sir!
It's like these beautiful Queens are nursing the same idea that our God is coming to exterminate FAITHLESS people! Revelations 21:8

See your shameless selves?

TATIME:
I'm trying my best Sir, perhaps you mean i should try harder in making the best use of my brains. But ordinarily i'm using it to the best of my intellect Sir!
It's like these beautiful Queens are nursing the same idea that our God is coming to exterminate FAITHLESS people! Revelations 21:8

And the same organization of yours accuses other denominations of employing hell scaring tactics in preaching. Care to explain how the bolded doesn't amount to you and your organization using scare tactics in preaching? Hypocrites!

Deadlytruth:
And the same organization of yours accuses other denominations of employing hell scaring tactics in preaching. Care to explain how the bolded doesn't amount to you and your organization using scare tactics in preaching? Hypocrites!

Go out to preach and teach in your neighbourhood instead of all these arguments. For your information i as one of Jehovah's Witnesses just returned from TEACHING those who asked me to come back and enlighten them more about God's organization that you are arguing profusely against!
Many both old and young are responding favourably to JWs more than ever,so you sit there arguing blindly without IDENTIFYING God's people!

TATIME:
Go out to preach and teach in your neighbourhood instead of all these arguments. For your information i as one of Jehovah's Witnesses just returned from TEACHING those who asked me to come back and enlighten them more about God's organization that you are arguing profusely against!
Many both old and young are responding favourably to JWs more than ever,so you sit there arguing blindly without IDENTIFYING God's people!

We started preaching and teaching before your organization was ever conceived. In fact your organization is actually a breakaway from another group contrary to the impression you try to create that it was formed as an original group. Someone already explained it into details here and I didn't see you proving him wrong.
Our preaching is targeted at those who have never heard the gospel hence our focus is on territories yet to be reached due to ban on Christian evangelism by their government. We are not like you who fear to thread such places but rush there after others have opened the place up and then start telling them that those who opened up the place were apostates. When we break those barriers we don't see ourselves to have done anything hence we don't boast about it because we know our salvation is by God's grace and never on account of the works we do. When the Orthodox Church missionaries risked their lives against territorial powers to come to Africa and established schools and other welfarist programmes, your satanic and manipulative organization was nowhere to be found. But once Africa became open and free, you suddenly appeared to start preaching your heresy and telling people that those who first came to liberate them at their own risks and sacrifice were apostates. Shame onto you!

Deadlytruth:
JW publications might have no price tag just like the publications of every other Christian groups don't. But while all the other Christian groups share their publications freely to the public and walk away without ever asking any member of the public to replenish their purses as a way of encouraging or supporting God's work; the JWs would first introduce the magazine, and then proceed to ask the listener to encourage the organization with financial contributions ostensibly for the encouragement of the organization in propagating God's word.
Now, which between these two is more tantamount to giving out their publications at a charge? Be honest!

If making contributions is the house holder's discretion as you yourself acknowledge, then why does your organization demand for it and even when the person hesitates, you squeeze it out of him by saying 'It doesn't matter however little you can afford"? If he could afford a little, do you think he would have hesitated in the first instance? And after cajoling him with how your organization spends money and therefore deserves assistance, you collect such from him and you term it free will donation?
His will becomes caged at that moment you press him further by saying "Our organization needs to be encouraged...." No normal human being would out of his genuine free will contribute to an organization whose mission and belief structure he is yet to fully understand let alone agree with.
If we agree that some Pentecostal Churches' pastors methods of "encouraging" their members (who are even believers) are tantamount to cajoling them (thus ssuppressing and even eliminating their free will) regardless of the fact that they don't actually use physical force to get them to make these offerings, why then should we expnerate JWs who use the same cajoling methods on even unbelievers in the streets? These Pentecostal pastors equally tell their members that the Church needs to be built and evangelistic missions overseas need to be encouraged. So how exactly are JWs more innocent than them for asking for donations towards encouraging the organization's mission?
Even a roadside beggar only stretches forth his hands and prays. He never picks on persons specifically and tells them "Please however small you can afford to spare me, it doesn't matter". He banks on the absolute free will of his potential givers. So even beggars are more deserving of honour that you people.

Your referencing of Acts 5:42 is still after your usual fashion of picking a verse and trying to interprete it in isolation of the rest of the scriptures.
If you read the entire chapter you would realize that the Apostles had been arrested from the public arena where they were preaching, and then jailed. An angel of the Lord released them and asked them to go back to the temple and preach from there. They only went to the homes of those who had already believed, hence they preached and taught. Teaching is meant for members to grow spiritually while preaching is meant to win unbelievers. But you people go to unbelievers houses to teach them. That is where you are wrong. Secondly, given the spread of the news of the death and actual resurrection of Jesus, a lot of Jews had become potential and actual believers hence the harvest was no longer huge within Jerusalem where it all happened thus the Apostles could afford house to house movement in there. But in gentile lands where unbelievers abounded with some never having heard the gospel, house to house would make a meaningless impact. But your organization regards non members as spiritual gentles among whom the harvest is supposedly bountifully ripe yet you use house to house approach on them. That contradicts even commonsense.
Let us even assume, without conceding that the Apostles used house to house in gentile lands in addition to the mass public approach. Then the question becomes; why then does your organization use only house to house method as against the Apostles who used both? Why do you people choose one and leave the other, yet you boast of following the Bible completely and correctly?

Deadlytruth:
We started preaching and teaching before your organization was ever conceived. In fact your organization is actually a breakaway from another group contrary to the impression you try to create that it was formed as an original group. Someone already explained it into details here and I didn't see you proving him wrong.
Our preaching is targeted at those who have never heard the gospel hence our focus is on territories yet to be reached due to ban on Christian evangelism by their government. We are not like you who fear to thread such places but rush there after others have opened the place up and then start telling them that those who opened up the place were apostates. When we break those barriers we don't see ourselves to have done anything hence we don't boast about it because we know our salvation is by God's grace and never on account of the works we do. When the Orthodox Church missionaries risked their lives against territorial powers to come to Africa and established schools and other welfarist programmes, your satanic and manipulative organization was nowhere to be found. But once Africa became open and free, you suddenly appeared to start preaching your heresy and telling people that those who first came to liberate them at their own risks and sacrifice were apostates. Shame onto you!

Fairy tale of a bigot.
"Jesus Christ is against house to house preaching".
If u had sense u should have known that one on one, face to face interaction is still the most effective means of human communication.
Lying Pharisee dey form Christian
More shame on you.