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Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by socialmediaman: 4:02am On Jan 27, 2019
The intention is to set the records straight on this because people have been comparing Jonathan’s constitutional action in 2011 to Buhari’s tyrannical action in 2019 regarding the suspension of the CJN. Read below:

According to the constitution, the President can remove the Chief Justice of Nigeria under 1 of 2 conditions:

1. Recommendation by the National Judicial Council

2. Vote by 2/3 majority of the senate

In 2011, Justice Ayo Salami was suspended by the National Judicial Council who recommended his suspension to the president. Whatever was the circumstance of his suspension, it was binding. The president then exercised his constitutional powers and suspended Justice Salami.

http://saharareporters.com/2011/08/21/jonathan-endorses-sack-justice-ayo-salami-approves-appointment-acting-president-court

Conclusion: Goodluck Jonathan’s exercise of his presidential powers in 2011 was constitutional

In 2019, neither the National Judicial Council nor the Senate had voted or recommended to the president for the CJN to be suspended. The CJN cleverly suspended sitting of the NJC to delay his ordeal, just like Saraki cleverly suspended sitting of the senate when he was being troubled by the executive.

Justice Onnoghen’s case was at the CCT with pending motions from the Court of Appeal (Higher court than the CCT) to stay on proceedings.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/01/24/appeal-court-suspends-onnoghens-trial-at-cct/

Conclusion: Buhari’s suspension of CJN Onnoghen was illegal and unconstitutional and likely an impeachable office as this is an assault on democracy

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by jamaicabakare(m): 4:03am On Jan 27, 2019
Rubbish

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by Dottore: 4:04am On Jan 27, 2019
*yawns*
Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by bigsmoke2(m): 4:16am On Jan 27, 2019
WE MUST CONTINUE TO JOGGLE THEIR MEMORIES CUZ MY PEOPLE ARE QUICK TO FORGET. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE COMING FROM �

1. I acted based on Jonathan's instruction - Dasuki

2. I didn't give order - Jonathan

3. I collected 350M from Dasuki for consultation - Iyorchia Ayu

4. I only collected $30,000 from Dasuki not N100m - Bode George

5. I got N4.6b from Dasuki for spiritual purposes - Bafarawa

6. I got N650M from Dasuki for my Abuja burnt office - Thisday Obaigbena.

7. I got N2.1b from Dasuki for publicity - Dokpesi

8. I got another N100m from Yuguda he didn't tell me from where - Bafarawa.

9. I gave N100m each to Odili, Jim Nwobodo Bode George and others - Yuguda

10. The president asked me to change N10B to foreign currency for PDP delegates - Dasuki

11. My boss asked me to get $11M from the CBN - Dasuki's account officer.

12. I got order from above to pay Tompolo N13B for Maritime university land. - Nimasa DG.

13. 950m was shared in my house -- Shekarau


"Over 20 billion dollars unremitted to the Federation account, and if nothing is done by 2015 upward, Nigeria will know what economic crisis is"
*~ Emir Sanusi Lamido Sanusi*

"Whoever wins 2015 will NEVER find it easy to govern. Over 30 trillion is mismanaged, unaccounted for or missing under Jonathan."
*~ Prof Charles Soludo*

"Our reserve is depleted and our savings are squandered. Our nation is in trouble."
*~ Dr Oby Ezekwesili.*

"For seven months, NNPC did not remit any money into federation account. When I called as a sitting governor and major oil producing state, Deziani Alison Madueke refused to pick my calls."
*~ Godswill Akpabio*

"I told them to save ahead of eventualities but Jonathan had no political will to do so and this is the reason why we are in crisis, because we squandered our boom."
*~ Okonjo Iweala*

"Okonjo-Iweala, Sanusi urged us to save but we state Governors refused to save for the unseen future during the tenure of Goodluck Jonathan, despite warning from economic experts."
*~ Peter Obi*

"Jonathan is a blessed ATM machine that doesn't have secret pin number"
*~ Bala Mohammed*

* Tompolo was paid 13Billion.!
* Ex-CDS,Alex Badeh dug a pit toilet to hide $32m.
* Patience Jonathan is claiming $31m, she has sued the Nigerian state.
* Femi Fani-Kayode took 740M.
* Dasuki used trucks to load over $35B from the CBN.
* Olisa Metuh took 400M.
* Aziboala, GEJ's cousin took 6B naira.
* Nenadi Usman took 3.5B naira.
* Fayose took 3B naira.
* Obanikoro took 4Billion naira.
* Olu Falae took 100M naira.
* Tony Anenih - 400M naira.
* Oritsejafor - $35M
* Former Air Chief Amosu - 2Billion naira.
* Lucky Igbinedion-16B naira.
*Bode-George and Dabo -100B naira
* Jolly Nyame-2.4B naira.
* Joshua Dariye-700M naira.
*Nyesom Wike stole #4b.
* Diezzani with $20 billion missing oil money?
15 billon dollars missing from arms fund.
WE MUST NEVER GO BACK THERE WE ARE GOING TO NEXT LEVEL ��

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by RealityShot: 4:20am On Jan 27, 2019
VOTE BUHARI for continuity

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by socialmediaman: 4:26am On Jan 27, 2019
RealityShot:
VOTE BUHARI for continuity

You mean, continuity of dictatorship?

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by helinues: 5:11am On Jan 27, 2019
What are you justifying? That NJC recommended the removal of Salami for snubbing outgoing CJN, what makes that different from this.

If NJC, really recommended the sacking of Salami, how come same NJC reinstated him?

2011 and 2019 are both fraudulent suspensions

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by socialmediaman: 5:18am On Jan 27, 2019
helinues:
What are you justifying? That NJC recommended the removal of Salami for snubbing outgoing CJN, what makes that different from this.

If NJC, really recommended the sacking of Salami, how come same NJC reinstated him?

2011 and 2019 are both fraudulent suspensions

http://saharareporters.com/2011/08/21/jonathan-endorses-sack-justice-ayo-salami-approves-appointment-acting-president-court

in 2011, NJC recommended the suspension of Salami, lets base our discussion on facts. It was a controversial decision at the time, however, it was binding.
Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by helinues: 5:21am On Jan 27, 2019
socialmediaman:


http://saharareporters.com/2011/08/21/jonathan-endorses-sack-justice-ayo-salami-approves-appointment-acting-president-court

in 2011, NJC recommended the suspension of Salami, lets base our discussion on facts. It was a controversial decision at the time, however, it was binding.

Both are controversial and somehow illegal even though one has back up than the other.
Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by socialmediaman: 5:25am On Jan 27, 2019
helinues:


Both are controversial and somehow illegal even though one has back up than the other.


The question here is not the controversy created, there will always be controversy. Question here is LEGALITY. Was the process of the law followed? This is dictatorship at its peak.
Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by wirinet(m): 5:25am On Jan 27, 2019
socialmediaman:


http://saharareporters.com/2011/08/21/jonathan-endorses-sack-justice-ayo-salami-approves-appointment-acting-president-court

in 2011, NJC recommended the suspension of Salami, lets base our discussion on facts. It was a controversial decision at the time, however, it was binding.

But the same NJC recommended the reinstatement of justice salami since nothing was found on him by the NJC. Jonathan refused and retired him instead.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/05/njc-asks-jonathan-to-reinstate-salami/

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by CHRISDMANAGER(m): 5:27am On Jan 27, 2019
Buhari was supposed to be a change from the old ways of doing things, that is what he promised..

Meanwhile, ladies and Gentlemen if you want your hair and beard to grow to an enviable hight, check my signature.. You will see a positive result after two-three weeks of application..A trial will convince you!

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by helinues: 5:29am On Jan 27, 2019
socialmediaman:


The question here is not the controversy created, there will always be controversy. Question here is LEGALITY. Was the process of the law followed? This is dictatorship at its peak.

If you can not provide a link where you condemned GEJ, then no need of having this arguments

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by wirinet(m): 5:35am On Jan 27, 2019
helinues:


If you can not provide a link where you condemned GEJ, then no need of having this arguments

That's the problem with hypocrisy. When it was Jonathan carrying out illegalities, they were cheerleaders and screaming GEJ till 2019, now that it's Buhari carrying out the same illegality, their chants changed to dictatorship and death to our democracy.

I was always shouting then that what goes around comes around, they refused to listen.

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by helinues: 5:37am On Jan 27, 2019
Dont mind them jare.. Why even all the noise when power is coming to the south in 2023? Karma will still be existing now

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by socialmediaman: 5:43am On Jan 27, 2019
wirinet:


But the same NJC recommended the reinstatement of justice salami since nothing was found on him by the NJC. Jonathan refused and retired him instead.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/05/njc-asks-jonathan-to-reinstate-salami/


Justice Salami voluntarily retired

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/07/justice-ayo-salami-retires/


Now, this was what former Chief Justice Uwais had to say about his reinstatement:

https://allafrica.com/stories/201205250289.html
Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by wirinet(m): 5:50am On Jan 27, 2019
helinues:
Dont mind them jare.. Why even all the noise when power is coming to the south in 2023? Karma will still be existing now

That's the real danger to our corporate existence. The next government will be worse and the one after that even worse in perpetuating illegalities, until we enter full blown dictatorship or complete breakdown.

Since 1999, subsequent governments had been carrying out worse and worse assaults on our constitution.
Obasanjo removed senate presidents at will. He even attenpted to remove and change the vice president.
Jonathan removed the president of the appeal court and CBN governor without constitutional backing. Now Buhari is seeking to remove the CJN unconstitutionally

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by socialmediaman: 5:53am On Jan 27, 2019
helinues:


If you can not provide a link where you condemned GEJ, then no need of having this arguments

Dont even go there, i was one of GEJ's biggest critics and Buhari's supporters on this platform in 2015

https://www.nairaland.com/2356682/there-anything-wrong-probing-jonathans

https://www.nairaland.com/2308789/thank-god-democracy-remain-heroes

https://www.nairaland.com/2289646/how-obasanjo-goodluck-jonathan-impoverished

https://www.nairaland.com/2224082/history-remember-us-ready-nigerians

https://www.nairaland.com/2217471/jonathans-plan-divide-rule-nigeria

If you want the full list you can check my topics in 2015:

https://www.nairaland.com/socialmediaman/topics/1

Are you satisfied that we're not all hypocrites on this platform?

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by helinues: 5:56am On Jan 27, 2019
wirinet:


That's the real danger to our corporate existence. The next government will be worse and the one after that even worse in perpetuating illegalities, until we enter full blown dictatorship or complete breakdown.

Since 1999, subsequent governments had been carrying out worse and worse assaults on our constitution.
Obasanjo removed senate presidents at will. He even attenpted to remove and change the vice president.
Jonathan removed the president of the appeal court and CBN governor without constitutional backing. Now Buhari is seeking to remove the CJN unconstitutionally

Not until we scrap our current constitutions, getting it right would be so long.

Imagine since 2011, the word suspended has been causing us lot of troubles yet both reps and senates never consider of doing anything about it..

Even if an angel elected as Nigeria president, we should only be expecting few changes cos the constitutions wont allow you to operate fully
Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by wirinet(m): 5:57am On Jan 27, 2019
socialmediaman:


Justice Salami voluntarily retired

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/07/justice-ayo-salami-retires/


Now, this was what former Chief Justice Uwais had to say about his reinstatement:

https://allafrica.com/stories/201205250289.html

I honestly do not like dishonest people. How can you say justice Salami retired voluntarily when Jonathan refused to reinstate him close to two years after NJC ordered his reinstatement? Since he was under illegal suspension indefinitely, what do you expect hin to do?
This is what your vanguard link said;
After almost two years of intrigues against his recall, former President of the Court of Appeal, Justice Ayo Salami, has resigned.

Vanguard learnt from competent judicial sources that the respected judge had finally opted to retire from service rather than continue to wait for reinstatement as was recommended by the National Judicial Council, NJC, which had earlier approved his suspension.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/07/justice-ayo-salami-retires/

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by helinues: 5:57am On Jan 27, 2019
socialmediaman:


Dont even go there, i was one of GEJ's biggest critics and Buhari's supporters on this platform in 2015

https://www.nairaland.com/2356682/there-anything-wrong-probing-jonathans

https://www.nairaland.com/2308789/thank-god-democracy-remain-heroes

https://www.nairaland.com/2289646/how-obasanjo-goodluck-jonathan-impoverished

https://www.nairaland.com/2224082/history-remember-us-ready-nigerians

https://www.nairaland.com/2217471/jonathans-plan-divide-rule-nigeria

If you want the full list you can check my topics in 2015:

https://www.nairaland.com/socialmediaman/topics/1

Are you satisfied that we're not all hypocrites on this platform?


Thumps up bro.

Of course, we can't all sleep and face same directions.

The politicians are just playing us Ni jare. Both suspensions are personal. In the Onnoghen's case, it is all about Rivers state election. At the moment, INEC do not recognise any of Apc aspirants.
Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by Aphrygian(m): 6:00am On Jan 27, 2019
helinues:


Not until we scrap our current constitutions, getting it right would be so long.

Imagine since 2011, the word suspended has been causing us lot of troubles yet both reps and senates never consider of doing anything about it..

Even if an angel elected as Nigeria president, we should only be expecting few changes cos the constitutions wont allow you to operate fully
may your days be long for this bro.

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by wirinet(m): 6:02am On Jan 27, 2019
helinues:


Thumps up bro.

Of course, we can't all sleep and face same directions.

The politicians are just playing us Ni jare. Both suspensions are personal. In the Onnoghen's case, it is all about Rivers state election. At the moment, INEC do not recognise any of Apc aspirants.


Yes it is always personal. In the case of Ayo Salami, it was all about the Sokoto and Osun state election tribunals.

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by Randy100: 6:05am On Jan 27, 2019
socialmediaman:


Dont even go there, i was one of GEJ's biggest critics and Buhari's supporters on this platform in 2015

https://www.nairaland.com/2356682/there-anything-wrong-probing-jonathans

https://www.nairaland.com/2308789/thank-god-democracy-remain-heroes

https://www.nairaland.com/2289646/how-obasanjo-goodluck-jonathan-impoverished

https://www.nairaland.com/2224082/history-remember-us-ready-nigerians

https://www.nairaland.com/2217471/jonathans-plan-divide-rule-nigeria

If you want the full list you can check my topics in 2015:

https://www.nairaland.com/socialmediaman/topics/1

Are you satisfied that we're not all hypocrites on this platform?

So what made you start attacking Buhari now? Don't tell me that it is because he suspended the corrupt CJN.

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by Auladimeji(m): 6:06am On Jan 27, 2019
socialmediaman:


You mean, continuity of dictatorship?
Yes because he tames Thieves like PDP

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by Randy100: 6:09am On Jan 27, 2019
The only difference between the two is that in the case of jonathan, NJC approved the suspension of Ayo salami while in the case of Buhari, it was approved by Buhari and Buhari alone.
Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by wirinet(m): 6:10am On Jan 27, 2019
Randy100:
So what made you start attacking Buhari now? Don't tell me that it is because he suspended the corrupt CJN.

Timing and the way it was carried out. Buhari is carrying it out in a totally wrong manner. It's less than 4 weeks to a general election, and he should have at least made attempts to follow the law.

He should have written a petition to the NJC, and the wait a couple of months and even up to 4 months. If the NJC did not act, then he would have had the moral excuse to use gestapo tactics.

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by socialmediaman: 6:11am On Jan 27, 2019
wirinet:


I honestly do not like dishonest people. How can you say justice Salami retired voluntarily when Jonathan refused to reinstate him close to two years after NJC ordered his reinstatement? Since he was under illegal suspension indefinitely, what do you expect hin to do?
This is what your vanguard link said;

Bros, i did not lie now, he retired. They frustrated him, but he retired voluntarily based on the frustrations. I guess he did not want to go to court and order his immediate reinstatement, probably didn't worth the trouble.

Now, when i was strongly against GEJ's re-election in 2015, this was one of the reasons we elected Buhari, to help rebuild the faulty systems. He simply turned out to be worse than his predecessors, coupled to being the worst economic manager the country has ever witnessed

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by wirinet(m): 6:12am On Jan 27, 2019
Randy100:
The only difference between the two is that in the case of jonathan, NJC approved the suspension of Ayo salami while in the case of Buhari, it was approved by Buhari and Buhari alone.
In the case of Salami, NJC did not approve the continuing suspension of Ayoade Salami

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by wirinet(m): 6:15am On Jan 27, 2019
socialmediaman:


Bros, i did not lie now, he retired. They frustrated him, but he retired voluntarily based on the frustrations. I guess he did not want to go to court and order his immediate reinstatement, probably didn't worth the trouble.

Now, when i was strongly against GEJ's re-election in 2015, this was one of the reasons we elected Buhari, to help rebuild the faulty systems. He simply turned out to be worse than his predecessors, coupled to being the worst economic manager the country has ever witnessed

The same way Buhari is attempting to frustrate Onnoghen. What do you think will happen if after 2 years Buhari did not reverse Onnoghen's suspension

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Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by helinues: 6:20am On Jan 27, 2019
wirinet:


Timing and the way it was carried out. Buhari is carrying it out in a totally wrong manner. It's less than 4 weeks to a general election, and he should have at least made attempts to follow the law.

He should have written a petition to the NJC, and the wait a couple of months and even up to 4 months. If the NJC did not act, then he would have had the moral excuse to use gestapo tactics.

You nailed it.

The timing is so wrong
Re: Comparing Jonathan And Buhari’s Suspension of Justices In 2011 And 2019 by socialmediaman: 6:28am On Jan 27, 2019
Randy100:
So what made you start attacking Buhari now? Don't tell me that it is because he suspended the corrupt CJN.

I think i started attacking Buhari sometime in 2016 or so. We elected him to help rebuild the system. We rejoiced for a new Nigeria after his election. The disappointment started when he named his cabinet. After 6 months of waiting, he names politicians with questionable past? Didn't he get the message and yearnings of Nigerians? We still exercised a little patience till we realized he was a fraud, incompetent and a pretender.

Prior to his election in 2015, i was advocating for a civilian revolution because of bad governance, then Buhari presented himself as the face of new leadership to change Nigeria. I remember in 2011 when he contested and one of his campaign promises was to change "state of origin" to "state of residence" in order to unite and integrate Nigerians better, i picked interest and thought maybe we could give the man a chance. He's simply a fraud.

When it comes to election. My thing is, the president must strengthen the system. Don't try to rig the elections to continue being in office. There will never be accountability if that happens. If you perform badly, let the people vote you out, allow their votes to count, that's how the nation can grow. Let everyone who goes to the ballot go there with their own independence and conscience, and if they vote you, it wasnt because you could see who they voted for, they can collect your money days before election and vote their conscience on election day. Let there be transparency

I do not even want to go into Nigerian institutions because they are stagnant or have gotten worse. Police, Customs, Immigration, EFCC, PHCN etc.

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