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Humility017:
egbon siasia flopped twice in that regard...
you don't expect anyone to Give you the super eagles job easily...
you've to fight for it... he failed to seize one of those opportunities to get the job...

that was what happened to zidane... he seized the opportunity and cement his grip on the job same way Oliver solkjaser is doing with Manchester united...
though there different scenarios...
I am just sayn...SiaONE have no excuses..

he messed up

TheGoodJoe:


Tammy Abraham said: “They [Nigeria] did try to roll out the red carpet and it was flattering but I was pretty set on England. I see myself as being a long-term England player. That is where my main focus is and I am 100 percent focused on trying to get into that team.”

Maybe rude is not the best term (seems so rude to me) but the best term is definitely unappealing.

Humility017:
egbon siasia flopped twice in that regard...
you don't expect anyone to Give you the super eagles job easily...
you've to fight for it... he failed to seize one of those opportunities to get the job...

that was what happened to zidane... he seized the opportunity and cement his grip on the job same way Oliver solkjaser is doing with Manchester united...
though there different scenarios...
I am just sayn...SiaONE have no excuses..

he messed up

Icon4s:
You call an AFCON qualification small gain?

How do you even expect to build a team when u cannot qualify for tournaments?

TheGoodJoe what are you saying sef?

Icon4s:
My bad. Egypt hosted and won it in 1986. CIV hosted in 1984.

Yes Siasia took over from Eguavoen from the third game. We were 3pts behind Guinea then. Even going into the last game we were still behind Guinea with 3pts. We earlier lost 1 nil in conakry but Guinea opened scoring in Abuja. And so the permutations were if we win Guinea 2-1 we qualify but not as group leader but as one of the best second placed teams. We win 3-1 we qualify as group winners. At 2-1 we were cruising to the AFCON along with Guinea but Siasia failed to secure what he had first and was trying to get a 3rd. That Guinea equalizer was a swift counter attack. Aiyenugba failed us that day and that was his last game.

An experienced coach would have known how to deal with that kind of situation. Siasia's inexperience was really exposed. He was good as a youth team coach but not as a senior coach. We took a Gamble and it back-fired against us

Humility017:
Lolll

then siasia is not a good coach...
severally amodu was called in to qualify the super eagles and he was never found wanting in those regard...

same way Oliver Gunar...is doing with Manchester united...the few matches he has anchored he drew or lost none...
someone like siasia will lose even the first match and thereafter cry that he was never given enough time....

that's a lame excuse...a coach ought to have an emergency tactics just to bail him out when necessary....He even claim against guinea that he never knew that drawing that match would have qualified the super eagles...

to show how ignorant he is...he was so unprepared for the super eagles...and still not prepared up till now...

he believes his only way to be a successful coach is by having to coach the super eagles...
amunike has learn move out of his comfort done got a job elsewhere and he is doing fine though currently going through son rough paths...
but siasia still waiting for the super eagles job...
please let's shelve this discussion...even ogunbote is far ahead of him now...I will prefer him to siasia

edi287:
Mikel had good games as an AM with us under Amodu. At AFCON 08, he was one of the few players that gave a good account of himself. During the WC qualifiers under Amodu, he was good too.
I remember Amodu saying he was versatile and had the intelligence to adjust to playing AM for us and DM for Chelsea.
You can credit Keshi with rejuvenating his NT career when it looked like he was on the wane - but I wouldn't say he utilized him the best as an AM when he mostly played as a DLP under him.

Mickael2:
Wasn't Berti Vogts our coach to the '08 AFCON?

Mickael2:
What will an experienced coach do about Aiyenugba's shambolic display? I have seen Sia1's teams playing it safe a number of times, what if genuinely he didn't know that we needed a 2-1 with yo qualify? Even Yobo came out to say they didn't know they needed that, maybe the logistics team of the NFF told him something different? Oh you didn't think that one, but if Rohr fields a suspended Shehu then it is the fault of the NFF abi? Double standards Oga, double standards. I'd rather not reveal all the secrets that I know about that particular period like the reason why Odewinge was missing open nets because it is rather personal, however the real blame should be going to the NFF for not properly educating the coach.

TheGoodJoe:
Thank you. Tammy can be Messi for all I care. He kissed the Super Eagles good bye when he chose to Ridicule the call-up. That was a disrespect to the country, flag and people of the country.

I do not blame him sha? I blame Pinnick who treat these egoistic people as if our lives depend on them.

ChrisKels:
I never expected this from you, dont let ur fantasies make u join the deluded band wagon. A Tammy that didn't fancy a world cup chance with Nigeria, will now suddenly stoop so low for one inconsequential Afcon, now that he seems to have rediscovered his form and ripe for the 3lions?

Dream on. The earlier u lot wake up from this slumber...

ChrisKels:
Leave dem make dem dey build Castles for air (space). Person wey him senses dey intact go snub a whole world cup to turn up for an AFCON? Seriously we get too many deluded fellows here

TheGoodJoe:
Victor Moses does not have the passion to play for us. Why break our heads for him. Baffling.

TheGoodJoe:
As for me, I am more into building in long term gains than celebrating qualification. There was a time we could beat our chest that we can give the best sides in the game a run for their money. We would not only match up to top teams but try to outplay them in every quarter of the game. A good example is our game against Spain in France 98. When Bora, the Super Eagles coach was asked if he was scared of the Spanish team by Sam Atasia Oburu, his reply was, "Spain should be scared of us (Nigeria)."

We were in the group of death but played with bravery in every game.

Today we celebrate tucking our tails in between our legs to qualify. These are short term gains and we are not in any way building a solid team that will have the capability of matching against some of the top teams of the World and giving them a run for their money. We can only maintain a timid fashion if we continue towing in this path.

edi287:
I don't think anyone said we should. We was said is he's talented to make our afcon squad at the moment.

zuchyblink:
Let's swallow our pride and invite tammy, dude is hot

Joebie:
[s]Given any player a free pass to the World Cup without even telling him he has some competition is the dumbest thing we ever did.
We rolled a red carpet with lots of confetti on it.[/s]

Earthquake1:
I just realized something :10 years from now is 2029,using TheGoodJoe's 'imaginary' plan we won't even be able to win the 2022 world cup

Earthquake1:
... We wouldn't even win the 2026 world cup

I'm dying

ChrisKels:
I dont see how this correlates with the post u quoted

Mickael2:
For reference purpose
The first match of that qualifiers was handled by Eguavoen. We won 2-0. The second match which was a loss to Guinea(our only loss on the qualifying stage) was under Eguavoen. If not for that loss we would have gone the entire qualifying process without a loss. Why are you all blindly and unjustifiably blaming Sia1 for the mistakes of Eguavoen? I must applaud Sia2 though, knowing Nigerians he shouldn't have accepted that shambolic 2012 qualifying process when he actually did. Now people like you go about saying rubbish like he was the one that failed when his team did not lose a single match. Heck Rohr has lost to SA mind you, that is actually worse than Sia1's record in that qualifying process.

OK after the Shehu debacle you all have decided to blame the NFF,good and fine. But why are you all not blaming the NFF for not telling Sia1 that we needed only a win to qualify? What if someone had actually told him that we needed that two goals victory? I mean we all knew that the NFF was against Sia1, it was public knowledge then so it isn't impossible. Next time get your facts straight Oga

Earthquake1:
... We wouldn't even win the 2026 world cup

I'm dying

Joebie:
U think we stand a chance of winning WC 2020? Una don start again.

Joebie:
Nobody thinks he will play for us. It’s all wishful thinking. The point is he is on fire. But IF EVER he rescinds his decision in this our current circumstance, my bro na open arms oh.

But just to put some of U on memory lane I was one of those who strongly mocked Tammy when he was firing blanks. Make una talk am as it is all the time.

zuchyblink:
Let's swallow our pride and invite tammy, dude is hot

ChrisKels:
Really? Chai

Dis post below birthed this argument, stop feigning ignorant of it

TheGoodJoe:
As for me, I am more into building in long term gains than celebrating qualification. There was a time we could beat our chest that we can give the best sides in the game a run for their money. We would not only match up to top teams but try to outplay them in every quarter of the game. A good example is our game against Spain in France 98. When Bora, the Super Eagles coach was asked if he was scared of the Spanish team by Sam Atasia Oburu, his reply was, "Spain should be scared of us (Nigeria)."

We were in the group of death but played with bravery in every game.

Today we celebrate tucking our tails in between our legs to qualify. These are short term gains and we are not in any way building a solid team that will have the capability of matching against some of the top teams of the World and giving them a run for their money. We can only maintain a timid fashion if we continue towing in this path.

edi287:
I did not see that post. Who doesn't know Tammy chose England over us??

Icon4s:
Participating in the 2017 AFCON would have helped our team better.

One of the major set backs for the '98 WC team was not participating in the 1998 AFCON. That was where we would have spotted our lack or quality goal keepers for one.

But this was just 1 tournament and staying out of tournaments for 10 years? Hell no.

Danielnino00:
# NPFL19 MATCHDAY 5 RESULTS
Wikki 0-1 Sunshine Stars
Rivers Utd 1-0 MFM
Rangers 1-0 Enyimba
Lobi 3-0 Kwara Utd
Remo Stars 2-0 Katsina Utd
Tornadoes 0-0 Insurance
Yobe Stars 1-0 Heartland
Plateau Utd 0-0 Kano Pillars
Kada Stars 0-1 FCIU
Abia Warriors 0-0 Gombe Utd

Two away wins...
Hopefully we won't hear of referee assault later...