Kog45:
Siasia is good but remember that we failed to qualify for 2012 due to Eguavoen inept against Guinea in Conakry.Oiseh left the team when it matter most in 2017 and Siasia took over.Pls give Siasia eagles job from the scratch and see a solid team.

Boss,point of correction,1986 AFCON was hosted by Egypt and i remember we lost to Zambia by 1 nil and drew at home in 1985 and this nailed our participation.

TheGoodJoe:


No one would take such risk on such dire system of Puel.

Finito.

TheGoodJoe:


Inference, far-fetched. It is about getting the logic.

Kog45:
Siasia is good but remember that we failed to qualify for 2012 due to Eguavoen inept against Guinea in Conakry.Oiseh left the team when it matter most in 2017 and Siasia took over.Pls give Siasia eagles job from the scratch and see a solid team.

Boss,point of correction,1986 AFCON was hosted by Egypt and i remember we lost to Zambia by 1 nil and drew at home in 1985 and this nailed our participation.

Earthquake1:


Boring and defensive are two different things

Besides Puel is a possession based coach

Humility017:


egbon siasia flopped twice in that regard...
you don't expect anyone to Give you the super eagles job easily...
you've to fight for it... he failed to seize one of those opportunities to get the job...

that was what happened to zidane... he seized the opportunity and cement his grip on the job same way Oliver solkjaser is doing with Manchester united...
though there different scenarios...
I am just sayn...SiaONE have no excuses..

he messed up

Earthquake1:


Maybe you should use simpler real life terms so that I can understand you

Earthquake1:


Liverpool has spent up to 400 million since Klopp arrived and Leicester city has lost their key players so what are you talking about?

mostob:
gbam! exactly my thought. .and some people here want us to go and prostrate and beg him to play for us.

TheGoodJoe:


It is an inference. We would prefer winning the World Cup in the next ten years if it means giving up qualifying for tournaments.

I am not saying it is an ideal scenario it shows the essence of sacrifice of small gains for big gains.

Icon4s:


Thar is tge problem. U cannot be giving up qualfying for tournaments because u want to win the WC. You need those tournaments to build your team towards winning the WC.

busky007:
are u sure of ur figure and remember that we lost key players (countinho ,Solanke

TheGoodJoe:


Which no one will take that kind of risk on.

TheGoodJoe:


I used simple terms all day. Rohr has achieved small gains but the team is growing at a snail pace because we can not face tough sides in brave fashions.

TheGoodJoe:


Like we need AFCON to qualify for World Cup.

The point is simple. To give a coach time to build a formidable side, we need tk prepare ourselves to sacrifice a tournament of two. It does not mean we will not qualify or must not qualify but we must put that at the back of our minds.

Compensate those losses with top friendly games but make sure our play improves at an impressive rate.

As long as the quality of the team improves, we time we would see ourselves achieving results.

Relying on just qualifying as the yardstick and sacking those who fail to qualify has gotten us no where. Rohr has qualified but our quality seems dross.

TheGoodJoe:


Like we need AFCON to qualify for World Cup.

The point is simple. To give a coach time to build a formidable side, we need tk prepare ourselves to sacrifice a tournament of two. It does not mean we will not qualify or must not qualify but we must put that at the back of our minds.

Compensate those losses with top friendly games but make sure our play improves at an impressive rate.

As long as the quality of the team improves, we time we would see ourselves achieving results.

Relying on just qualifying as the yardstick and sacking those who fail to qualify has gotten us no where. Rohr has qualified but our quality seems dross.

Earthquake1:


Can you name a national team coach that followed such yardstick

Or are you just fantasizing?

mostob:
This is exactly my point. we should give those at our reach their chance before going for those beyond our reach

TheGoodJoe:


True. Babatunde was preferred ahead of Aluko for the World Cup. A lot of critics felt Aluko should have been called up for the creative role. Many did not expect such performance for Babatunde but the young man delivered.

bobobooge:


I am glad you have commented from an unbiased angle. I love that.

That Rohr factor is what they have denied or tried to water down.

According to thegoodjoe,

"Rohr is getting more praise than he deserves"

That sounds like a travesty.

Because we all know our story before Rohr came in.

They have even gone ahead and criticized his style of game.

They said Libya and SA shit on us

These to me are arguments I cannot leave to fly without countering.

Rohr so far has one of the best records qualifying us for the WC and AFCON.

Today we can boast of beating top African teams by margins of 3-0 or 4-0. Just a while back many of us would not dream of this.

I am one of the ardent supporters of Rohr's conservative approaches I.e vs SA.

We have seen adventurous coaches I.e Siasia throw away qualifications (2012) because they do not know how to be conservative when necessary.

Rohr's conservative approach has built us into a massive defensive machine. One of our problems in recent past. Rohr's team even work on defending set pieces.

I dare way we are on the right track with Rohr and the team he is building will be a tough but to crack come 2022.


Glory 2022! WC on an African soil, Nigeria!

Icon4s:


Well, I seem to have found a co-apostle of Rohr's conservatism.

Believe it or not, it is this Rohr's conservative approach which also reflects on his players selection and game management that have earned us easy qualifications. A coach is supposed to know when to come all out and also when to go conservative. Of all our Indegenous coaches the one closest to Rohr in terms of approach was late Amodu Shuaibu. Amodu's game plan was "even if u don't win don't lose". He twice qualified Nigeria for the WC from very pittyful positions.

Rohr may not be much gifted tactically but still he has been able to achieve results mostly through man management and also game management. I have once clamored for the NFF to employ a tactician as they did for Westerhof. And I will still clamor for it again.

As per the 2022WC I don't want to stick out my neck yet as per expectations. I would like to see this team play in this year's AFCON first. And then the WC qualifiers before the 2021 AFCON and so on. I so much pray for the Success of our 2019 U20 and 2020 Olympics teams. They are part of the players that we will be looking up to come 2022.

andrew444:

Not at all, if he said he want to play for naija he should not be rejected
But for we to beg him is a big NO NO

Kog45:
Siasia is good but remember that we failed to qualify for 2012 due to Eguavoen inept against Guinea in Conakry.Oiseh left the team when it matter most in 2017 and Siasia took over.Pls give Siasia eagles job from the scratch and see a solid team.

Boss,point of correction,1986 AFCON was hosted by Egypt and i remember we lost to Zambia by 1 nil and drew at home in 1985 and this nailed our participation.

TheGoodJoe:


I do not remember Mikel thriving in AM role under Amodu Shuaibu, if he did, Kudos and a big praise to him.

However, before Keshi, Mikel was restricted to playing as the man shielding the defence. Under Keshi, Mikel did not only orchestrate our play but was the top passer of the tournament.

Now tell me Keshi does not deserve praise.

Finito.

ChrisKels:


Then, u didn't get the question. The question was if we should go ask Tammy to join our Afcon party - answer is NO.