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Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Heathen777(m): 8:18pm On Jan 18, 2019 |
Death happens when our body stops performing those dynamic processes, that makes us alive. This happens because of entropy. The measure of disorder in any given body. Everything goes through entropy, and when there's nothing to sustain/maintain it, they wear out and stop working. This is why we age and die. Religions have tried to explain this by invoking supernatural forces/reason as a cause of this, but this is just basic science. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by YAHREIGNS: 8:38pm On Jan 18, 2019 |
BronzeMajik:Death is a power that rules over the earth. It socks the life out of living things from day 1. Until the day of death. Death is the reason why our world is hard and seemingly lifeless. That's why Christ said: John 14:3 | And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also ... Were in a dead place, currently, ruled by the power of death ... Until that day |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by BronzeMajik(f): 8:45pm On Jan 18, 2019 |
YAHREIGNS:thanks but you still didn't answer the question. why do we die? |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Ihedinobi3: 10:11pm On Jan 18, 2019 |
DeSepiero:The OP prohibited answers from religious perspectives. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Ihedinobi3: 10:34pm On Jan 18, 2019 |
LordReed:You are still missing my point. Entropy is the steady trend of things toward a state of greater disorder. That would be a synonym for deterioration. Mutation is merely another word for genetic change. Assuming the change you refer to is negative (as seems obvious to me), then it is yet another synonym for entropy and deterioration. Radiation is probably the only actual external factor here. But it is why I said that your answer is also "we die because we can die". If we can be affected by external factors so that we deteriorate, then we can die. So, why can we die? Why are we susceptible to death or deterioration at all in the first place? I am quite convinced that the true atheistic answer is: "I don't know" or "there is no reason. We just die." |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Ihedinobi3: 10:42pm On Jan 18, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:LordReed, here's a page you can take a book out of. The honest atheist position: "we don't know why people die" OR "there is no reason. People just die." But you may wax philosophical as above to try to fill that yawning pit of despair with some meaning. You shouldn't assume though that that means that you can explain the existence of death. You really can't. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by LordReed(m): 12:19am On Jan 19, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: Ihedinobi3: Already said there is no grand design reason for death man, do you just skim over my posts and assume something else in your head? I also said I did not care to wax philosophical and so my post wasn't what you were looking for. What else do you want man?! You are a strange fellow. LoL 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Ihedinobi3: 12:39am On Jan 19, 2019 |
LordReed:So, you are admitting that you were saying that there is no reason for death, that we die because we die and that's that. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by LordReed(m): 1:24am On Jan 19, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: LMFAO! You are hopeless. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by luvmijeje(f): 10:00am On Jan 19, 2019 |
Why do we die? I'll give you five reasons. 1. If we don't die there will never be renewal. 2. If we don't die, there will never be new ideas. 3. If we don't die the earth will never survive. 4. If we don't die, your view of life get to be limited. 5. If we don't die, we'll never be curious about spirituality. In other words, we die so that we'll be forced to think about life after death. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by sonmvayina(m): 2:31pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
What's the purpose of life?... Won't this life be meaningless without death?... Death is the only thing that gives meaning to life..death is not an end but the beginning of something different and new.. A seed dies and it becomes a tree.. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by sonmvayina(m): 2:32pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
What's the purpose of life?... Won't this life be meaningless without death?... Death is the only thing that gives meaning to life..death is not an end but the beginning of something different and new.. A seed dies and it becomes a tree.. Death is nothing.. Just an illusion. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
Everything in the universe will eventually be converted from one form to another. The stars, planets, moons etc will eventually "die" in this case they will be converted to another form of energy. In the real sense, nothing dies, they are just been transformed to another form of energy. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Ihedinobi3: 4:01pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
LordReed:Obviously not. You, on the other hand, just admitted that you are. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by LordReed(m): 4:16pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: LoL! Yep I have no hope that after death there's some after life world, I no longer need such childish stories. LMFAO! 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by alphaNomega: 4:22pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
BronzeMajik: To be fair, you should not have posted this here if you're avoiding religious references. If I were a mod, I would have moved this thread to the appropriate section. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Ihedinobi3: 5:01pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
LordReed:Well, there's that. But I was really referring to just existence. In your worldview, nothing makes sense and there is no point at all to existence. But in mine, obviously, there is a reason for everything including death. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by LordReed(m): 6:01pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: I make everything about my life make sense, I just don't wait for some imaginary sky daddy to tell me what to make of it. 2 Likes |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Ihedinobi3: 7:09pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
LordReed:Awesome for you. I just don't believe you. Your answers about death obviously prove that you can't give meaning to existence at all. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by LordReed(m): 7:26pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: LMFAO! Look at this UNBELIEVER! LOL! |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by janettee(f): 8:07pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
BronzeMajik: Lol |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by elipheleh(m): 2:02am On Jan 28, 2019 |
BronzeMajik: Why do we die? Two reasons: 1. We die when we have completed our assignment here. 2. We die when we are useless to humanity. Most people who are not in their God given plan mostly die untimely. If you miss your purpose here for too long, you may die if care is not taken |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by LordReed(m): 9:15am On Jan 28, 2019 |
elipheleh: I guess thats why Miles Munroe died in an air crash, he was not in the god's given plan. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Niflheim(m): 1:21pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
@Bronzemajik, We die because of our primary composition...................................................WE ARE ALL "MATTER", SO FROM THE DAY YOU ARE BORN, YOU BEGIN TO DECAY!!! |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by elipheleh(m): 9:00pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
LordReed: No he completed his assignment. Check reason 1. Let me explain further on my point 1: God gave everybody a mission to complete within a stipulated time. Long old life is not a sign of fulfillment. Some people have short assignments and short timing and it's perfectly God's will. From point 1 If you finish the mission too early, you die. If you don't finish but the time elapses, you still die. From point 2 If you derail your mission too long, God takes you out of the universe, you're no longer useful to earth. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by Nobody: 9:01pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
BronzeMajik:hmmm. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by LordReed(m): 9:14pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
elipheleh: So you'll have us believe your god kills off its servants in terrible accidents because they have finished their assignment for it? LMFAO! |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by elipheleh(m): 9:43pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
LordReed: Ignorant you. You think death is painful lol. No child of God experiences a painful death. Stephen in the bible was stoned to death, to your mind that was painful. In a revelation, Stephen now in heaven, says that his death was not painful one bit. Immediately they began stoning him, the peace of Jesus was with him immediately. Acts 7:58-60 58 and they cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul. 59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon the Lord, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. 60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. He fell asleep, not die. Christians don't die, we fall asleep. Sleep is not painful. Christ's love is with us. He said He will never forsake us nor leave us (even in our painful moments, He takes it all away). Deu 31:6 Be strong and of good courage, fear not, nor be affrighted at them: for Jehovah thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee. Psa 37:28 For Jehovah loveth justice, And forsaketh not his saints; They are preserved for ever: But the seed of the wicked shall be cut off If you are not a believer, a child of God, have not received Christ and forgiveness of sin through His blood, you will certainly die, not sleep. Death is painful and everlasting death is painful too. If you know not Christ, you have every reason to be afraid. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by LordReed(m): 10:15pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
elipheleh: Kai, the delusion is strong in this one! LMFAO! So an aircraft crash is not a painful way to die? Really? LMFAO! |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by elipheleh(m): 11:00pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
LordReed: You're scared You just met a Christian who has revelation and conviction. Not funny at all. Now ask yourself, how confident are you in your life after death. Did you really believe this life is all there is to see? Accept Jesus for remission of your sins and experience the Love of God and Eternal life. Jesus loves you. BUT the devil and his new age religion of exalting self can't profit you here or hereafter. |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by LordReed(m): 11:03pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
elipheleh: You who is deathly scared of the devil and hell? LMFAO! |
Re: Your Opinion Is Needed. by elipheleh(m): 11:46pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
LordReed: No I'm not moved by the devil, for he is but a creation who has been judged also awaiting damnation. What moves me is the Love of Christ. He loved me first, that's why I love Him also and it is only natural that you admire and believe Him whom you love. 1Jn 4:19 We love, because he first loved us. As for you there's hope , Jesus loves you and died for you to take away your sins and give you life eternal. He loves you first even as you are a sinner and wants to set you free. If you will only call Him Lord and ask Him to save you. Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us |
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