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Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by MuttleyLaff: 6:41pm On Jan 28, 2019
Ajibel:
Yes of course, but I didn't experience his tenure. I wasn't born then. I know you'll go ahead and call me a millenial bla bla but I witnessed Fashola's governance, I liked what I saw, I give him a 70% performance rating. Can there be people who can do much better than him? Yes. But so far, I haven't witnessed any, and for the sake of Lagos progress and development, I don't want Fashola to be the best we've ever had. Let his successors accomplish in 4 years what Fashola couldn't accomplish in 8 years, for a greater Lagos.

Thanks sir.
I'm not ashamed to say that Fashola is the only politician dead or alive today that I admire
- by Ajibel

You are forgiven for making a reckless declaration like the one above, celebrating mediocrity and a one eyed man in the land of the blind and ignoring the strides and foundations laid down by giants like LKJ.

Give Babatunde Olalere Gbadamosi of Action Democratic Party (ADP) an inch and see how much miles he will take Lagos State to
Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by naptu2: 6:54pm On Jan 28, 2019
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Muttleylaff, Muttleylaff, Muttleylaff.

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Anyway, I retired from having long arguments on the Internet in 2014, but I have 2 related questions for you and then I'm done with the thread.

1) In your opinion, was there anything that Jakande did wrong when he was governor (no ifs and buts) and can you explain what that thing was?


2) In your opinion, was there anything that Fashola did right when he was governor (no ifs and buts) and can you explain what that thing was?

Take care.

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Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by luvmijeje(f): 7:05pm On Jan 28, 2019
Dantedasz:


What is your point. I am aware of the flaws.Do you want ME to start listing Fasholas' flaws.
Jakande had his flaws but you should learn that administration of government did not start when you were born. People sweated and set the foundation of the government of today.

People also sweated and set the foundation of Jakande's government. He didn't come in and met nothing.
Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by luvmijeje(f): 7:09pm On Jan 28, 2019
naptu2:
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Muttleylaff, Muttleylaff, Muttleylaff.

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Anyway, I retired from having long arguments on the Internet in 2014, but I have 2 related questions for you and then I'm done with the thread.

1) In your opinion, was there anything that Jakande did wrong when he was governor (no ifs and buts) and can you explain what that thing was?


2) In your opinion, was there anything that Fashola did right when he was governor (no ifs and buts) and can you explain what that thing was?

Take care.

Oya!!!!! MuttleyLaff, these are questions with many pitfalls.
Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by luvmijeje(f): 7:23pm On Jan 28, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
You asked for five, so I restricted myself to the limit. Do you see the magnanimity of the dividends of democracy from those five list enjoyed? Did you read what naptu2 posted about Alhaji Lateef Kayode Jakande being one of the best governors that Lagos has ever had (i.e. if not the best, but that's naptu2 not wanting to be truthful and committed. He was also conservative with LKJ's achievements)

Are you aware at all that the octogenarian Alhaji Lateef Kayode Jakande is still alive?


The thing about 989900, Ajibel, luvmijeje and others, is that you all are suffering from a Stockholm Syndrome situation and so have developed sympathy for the oppressors of Lagos State. Even in far way Ghana, Jerry John Rawlings, former Head of State and President of Ghana, just recently, has said that Nigerians are still in love with their "oppressors"

The Ethiopia-Djibouti railway line modernisation, was initiated in 2011 and completed in October 2016. China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation (CCECC) who was among the contractors for this project is also the company appointed as the contractor for the construction of the Lagos Rail Mass Transit Blue line. Now, the same China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation (CCECC) that was responsible for constructing the 339km railway from Mieso to Djibouti section of the Ethiopia-Djibouti heavy duty railway line modernisation, with a contract cost of $579m or 579 million USD is the same company contracted to build the 35km the Lagos Rail Mass Transit Blue line at $1.2bn. Started after Nigeria's own and finished it but the Lagos Rail Mass Transit Blue line is still crawling to completion, with the completion date kept kicked ahead in the tall grass
cc Dantedasz

And I've asked you that if Gbadamosi gets there, won't he also steal? Won't he also inflate contract? Is there a politician who's a Saint? Are they not all thieves?

Until we have a system that can act as a check and balance, I trust no politicians.
Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by Ajibel(m): 8:41pm On Jan 28, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
I'm not ashamed to say that Fashola is the only politician dead or alive today that I admire
- by Ajibel

You are forgiven for making a reckless declaration like the one above, celebrating mediocrity and a one eyed man in the land of the blind and ignoring the strides and foundations laid down by giants like LKJ.

Give Babatunde Olalere Gbadamosi of Action Democratic Party (ADP) an inch and see how much miles he will take Lagos State to

You believe Jakande made giant strides in Lagos. When he made those giant strides, were other states making such giant strides too or should we say Pa Jakande was also a one eyed man in the land of the blind?

But you believe Fash is overrated and did nothing.

Fashola built 5 IPPs in Lagos, was that nothing to you?
Fashola built the Lekki ikoyi link bridge that is now a signature for Lagos, does that mean nothing to you?
Fashola revamped and improved the conditions of Oshodi which was a nightmare, was that insignificant to you?

All his achievements while in government is well documented on his personal website tundefashola.com

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Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by 989900: 8:59pm On Jan 28, 2019
Ajibel:


You believe Jakande made giant strides in Lagos. When he made those giant strides, were other states making such giant strides too or should we say Pa Jakande was also a one eyed man in the land of the blind?

But you believe Fash is overrated and did nothing.

Fashola built 5 IPPs in Lagos, was that nothing to you?
Fashola built the Lekki ikoyi link bridge that is now a signature for Lagos, does that mean nothing to you?
Fashola revamped and improved the conditions of Oshodi which was a nightmare, was that insignificant to you?

All his achievements while in government is well documented on his personal website tundefashola.com


Abeg, stop dignifying that sentimental biased soul with a response . . . probably, Fashola snatched his wife or refused to pay his school fees, hence the bile.
Even his basic argument is so disjointed.
APC basically rode on Fashola's sole successes to power (federal, state, and local).

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Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by MuttleyLaff: 11:52pm On Jan 28, 2019
luvmijeje:
And I've asked you that if Gbadamosi gets there, won't he also steal?
Won't he also inflate contract?
Babatunde Olalere Gbadamosi of Action Democratic Party (ADP) has no political godfather he is answerable to, so why would he want to steal, why would he want to inflate contracts. Say no to feudalism. Lagos State has been turned into one greedy man's cash cow

luvmijeje:
Is there a politician who's a Saint?
The Nigerian Compass on Saturday had last week exclusively reported that Jakande, whose record of performance in the state is yet to be matched by succeeding governments 30 years after, was not being paid the jumbo package by the state government.

In an interview with the newspaper, Jakande had also stated unequivocally, that he would not even accept the jumbo pay if offered because, according to him, it is "excessive and obscene"

Under the law, a former Governor and Deputy Governor of the state will receive equal pays with the incumbent holders of the office. The former Governor will be entitled to a house each in Lagos and Abuja, at a location of his choice, and will have six official vehicles and a retinue of domestic aides.

In another interview with this paper on Wednesday this week, Alhaji Jakande restated his belief that the pay package, is wasteful and a drain on the state's purse.

After enquiring if any such law exists anywhere else in the world, he lapsed into Yoruba language, saying: "Ki lawon Omo wonyi fe so aye dabayi?"meaning: "What are these children turning the world into?" Alhaji Jakande queried further: "How can an ex-Governor be on the same salary with the incumbent?"

He had said last week: "I have not benefited from this bill. I am not interested in it. My own attitude is that God has given me what I consider to be a good pension. That pension, to me, is the appreciation of my service to Nigerians, even non-Nigerians.

"My view on the bill is that it a waste of public funds. The appreciations I received daily from people are enough for me as my pension. This I will cherish till I die."


luvmijeje:
Are they not all thieves?
My eyes took a double take and my heart bled reading the above and this your other remark here and I felt like raining curses on each and everyone of those that allowed us end up like this. luvmijeje, please bookmark these following links for later reading at your most convenient time:
1/ https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/07/why-i-refused-to-quit-abacha-govt-jakande-at-80-opens-up/
2/ https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/legendary-lateef-jakande-modest-life-in-retirement.html

luvmijeje:
Until we have a system that can act as a check and balance, I trust no politicians.
Did you know that Nigeria's western region civil service in the 1960s was the envy of sub-Saharan Africa, if not the whole of Africa then. This is part of the changes Babatunde Olalere Gbadamosi of Action Democratic Party (ADP) plans to bring back to Lagos State

Ajibel:
You believe Jakande made giant strides in Lagos. When he made those giant strides, were other states making such giant strides too or should we say Pa Jakande was also a one eyed man in the land of the blind?
Yes, all other states were making similar strides too. Case in point, Bisi Onabanjo in Ogun State, Adekunle Ajasin in Ondo State and Bola Ige in Oyo State.

Ajibel:
But you believe Fash is overrated and did nothing.
I said he is overrated, I wasnt the only person who've said this about Fashola, I wasnt the first person to say this about him and I am quite sure I wouldnt be the last person to say he is overrated, but it's baffling how you managed to invent a remark and fabricate that I believe Fashola did nothing, when all I mentioned is that he is overrated. I then followed up with list me Fashola legacies that Lagos State are satisfactorily and without reservations enjoying. The keywords were "satisfactorily and without reservations enjoying"

Ajibel:
Fashola built 5 IPPs in Lagos, was that nothing to you?
Fashola built the Lekki ikoyi link bridge that is now a signature for Lagos, does that mean nothing to you?
Fashola revamped and improved the conditions of Oshodi which was a nightmare, was that insignificant to you?
Again, the keywords were "satisfactorily and without reservations enjoying"

Now Ajibel, do you know how many years Alhaji Lateef Kayode Jakande served as governor of Lagos State for, compared to Tinubu's 8 years and Fashola's another 8 years, a total of 16 years of APC squeezing, exploitation and bondage, not adding Ambode's?
I can present you a list of LKJ's achievements in that short period to contrast the dividend of democracy with that of APC's 16 years

Ajibel:
All his achievements while in government is well documented on his personal website tundefashola.com
I know, I am sure they are well documented on his personal website, and thats why the 8 years achievements makes him strut upandan the place like a prized peacock

989900:
[s]Abeg, stop dignifying that sentimental biased soul with a response . . . probably, Fashola snatched his wife or refused to pay his school fees, hence the bile.
Even his basic argument is so disjointed[/s].
APC basically rode on Fashola's sole successes to power (federal, state, and local).
You can clutch at straws as long as you'll like to. I dont give a fairk. All I am for, is what is right for Lagos State. PDP nor APC is right for Lagos State. Babatunde Olalere Gbadamosi of Action Democratic Party (ADP) is best hand for Lagos State is all I am saying.

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Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by MuttleyLaff: 11:52pm On Jan 28, 2019
naptu2:
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Muttleylaff, Muttleylaff, Muttleylaff.
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Anyway, I retired from having long arguments on the Internet in 2014, but I have 2 related questions for you and then I'm done with the thread.

1) In your opinion, was there anything that Jakande did wrong when he was governor (no ifs and buts) and can you explain what that thing was?

2) In your opinion, was there anything that Fashola did right when he was governor (no ifs and buts) and can you explain what that thing was?

Take care.
I promise, I'll only read and wont reply back to your response(s) to my answer(s)

luvmijeje:
Oya!!!!! MuttleyLaff, these are questions with many pitfalls.
This is how arguments come about, and that's from exchange of opinions. I never do arguments and I prefer to state facts rather than give opinion(s) but on this occasion, will make an exception to that stance, so here goes:

1) In your opinion, was there anything that Jakande did wrong when he was governor (no ifs and buts) and can you explain what that thing was?
1/ In my opinion, and I am typing this with utmost respect, admiration and a heavy heart, I cant find anything that Alhaji Lateef Kayode Jakande, a simple, selfless, humble, public-spirited and/or serving others man did wrong when he was governor of Lagos State and because of no ifs and buts, then so, have no wrong he did, to explain about.

2) In your opinion, was there anything that Fashola did right when he was governor (no ifs and buts) and can you explain what that thing was?
2/ I know, to be a fact that Fashola did the right thing of trying to get off the albatross around his neck. Yes, I can explain that the albatross thing, is polithiefician land-grabber Tinubu. Ambode, tried too, but it cost him dearly, his second tenure. Unlike Fashola who survived, he didnt.
There is fire on the mountain, he is not just denied a second tenure but now is being told to resign or be impeached. Rubbing salt into injury
cc luvmijeje

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Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by rhidollah(m): 2:00am On Jan 29, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
I promise, I'll only read and wont reply back to your response(s) to my answer(s)

This is how arguments come about, and that's from exchange of opinions. I never do arguments and I prefer to state facts rather than give opinion(s) but on this occasion, will make an exception to that stance, so here goes:

1) In your opinion, was there anything that Jakande did wrong when he was governor (no ifs and buts) and can you explain what that thing was?
1/ In my opinion, and I am typing this with utmost respect, admiration and a heavy heart, I cant find anything that Alhaji Lateef Kayode Jakande, a simple, selfless, humble, public-spirited and/or serving others man did wrong when he was governor of Lagos State and because of no ifs and buts, then so, have no wrong he did, to explain about.
You mean him bastardising the robust education system of that era was a plus for him too. It shows you are partisan, and what has the ADP candidate achieve on his own before aspiring to be the pilot of a mega state like Lagos.

2) In your opinion, was there anything that Fashola did right when he was governor (no ifs and buts) and can you explain what that thing was?
2/ I know, to be a fact that Fashola did the right thing of trying to get off the albatross around his neck. Yes, I can explain that the albatross thing, is polithiefician land-grabber Tinubu. Ambode, tried too, but it cost him dearly, his second tenure. Unlike Fashola who survived, he didnt.
There is fire on the mountain, he is not just denied a second tenure but now is being told to resign or be impeached. Rubbing salt into injury
cc luvmijeje
Re: Babatunde Fashola Live On "The Discourse" With Jimi Disu @ 2pm Today. by naptu2: 6:51am On Jan 29, 2019
Babajide Sanwo-Olu Live On Morning Digest With Jimi Disu @ 9am Today.
https://www.nairaland.com/4989206/babajide-sanwo-olu-live-morning-digest

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