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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:25pm On Feb 03, 2019
Danielnino00:
What a pathetic display from Arsenal
.. City just used them for training...


As for Iwobi, anybody that doesn't agree that he is bang average is just being sentimental...
Iwobi has never hit double figure in goals and assists in all competition for arsenal in a single season.. And his lack of consistency is a major problem...
I guess this season isnt a nigerian season atall.


Funny enough, the coaching staff hace never been heard of working on improving iwobi in his weaknesses. Meaning the coach isnt even worried about what or what not he offers, other than his chance creation and dribbling.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:25pm On Feb 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
Nigerian fans are the ones defending him tbh go to facebook and see the war going on there
Well on twitter, they are roasting iwobi and emery together. why play him in a def setup all cos he is the only forward that tracks back to def compared to laca and auba?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:25pm On Feb 03, 2019
In the last few games, Iwobi has consistently been amongst Arsenal's best player. Silence!!

One bad game and everyone comes with their daggers.

Last week, he changed the game for Arsenal, no comments. He was Arsenal's best player against Liverpool, silience.

The boy can not win.. Everyone is waiting for a mistake or a poor game to crucify him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:27pm On Feb 03, 2019
Mickael2:
Then you really haven't watched Suarez well enough. Dude can dribble, like he seriously can dribble, he has an end product more than Iwobi and he is more creative, considerably more creative. I think Iwobi is only better at short passes because Suarez would always want to penetrate naturally.

However I would say a 4-4-2 would suit Arsenal a lot more. Have a midfield 4 of pure workhorses, say Guendozi, Torreira and some other person that actually works hard, then plug in Ozil behind the strikers, that way his defensive deficiencies will be totally and completely masked while his creativity will be something else. With Auba and Lacazzete ahead of Ozil I see nothing but goals and more goals. Suarez can fit the Ozil role perfectly too(maybe eceb slightly better because he can dribble more than Ozil, though less creative obviously). Bellerin is a Barca product, he is naturally a wingback even when playing as FB then play with one wingback and another stagnant fullback more like what Barca used in 2008 when Abidal was the stagnant full back, when Bellerin pushes forward let Guendozi drop in as the third CB then one of the CBs, obviously the quicker and more astute CB(in 1-v-1 situations should be the roaming CB.
I do not buy into this assumption that Arsenal does not have good enough players, a team with Ozil, Auba and Lacazzete should be guaranteed 2-5 goals every weekend.
I don't think Ozil can start any game again.Do you know why? Because he is lazy. With what you wrote above ,why doesn't Suarez get game time at barca?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:28pm On Feb 03, 2019
edi287:
Iwobi is a better ball carrier imo while Suarez is more technically gifted.
Arsenal just wasted their time in this transfer window. At the end of the day - Iwobi is still the only one that can drive into the opposition's box.
God bless you for this.


I am not defending iwobi, but lets be sincere, he and kola on that left wing have created 80% of the chances that were converted as goals. Remove these two from arsenal and you would have a championship team with two world class strikers that touch the ball less than 10times in 90mins. the whole arsenal midfield are waste.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:29pm On Feb 03, 2019
edi287:
Arsenal's problem is the defence and Emery's stubborn nature. If we're being honest - dude has treated Ramsey and Ozil like shit and for someone that's meant to be this super flexible tactician - he has been a disgrace.
As for Suarez - I've always viewed him like an Iniesta type of player. Good close control, etc but he doesn't seem like he can carry the ball over a long distance.
I can't wait for Emery's contract to expire at the end of next season so he can take his nonsense and leave.
And are Ramsey and Ozil not poo? Ramsey especially.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:29pm On Feb 03, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:31pm On Feb 03, 2019
Iwobi is not an average player. He is above average.

If Ozil had made the pass that Iwobi gave to Kolasinac in the last game. We would not have heard the last of it.

The boy is good but he definitely has things to work on.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:31pm On Feb 03, 2019
krattoss:
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:31pm On Feb 03, 2019
tbaba1234:
In the last few games, Iwobi has consistently been amongst Arsenal's best player. Silence!!

One bad game and everyone comes with their daggers.

Last week, he changed the game for Arsenal, no comments. He was Arsenal's best player against Liverpool, silience.

The boy can not win.. Everyone is waiting for a mistake or a poor game to crucify him.
God bless you bro...God bless you. Help us tell them the truth
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:33pm On Feb 03, 2019
daveP:
God bless you for this.


I am not defending iwobi, but lets be sincere, he and kola on that left wing have created 80% of the chances that were converted as goals. Remove these two from arsenal and you would have a championship team with two world class strikers that touch the ball less than 10times in 90mins. the whole arsenal midfield are waste.
That's the truth of the matter. Till Arsenal stops been stingy and spend big on a winger - Iwobi will keep getting games under Emery. Arsenal fans better get used to it.
Dude is still young and will improve.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:34pm On Feb 03, 2019
mostob:
And are Ramsey and Ozil not poo? Ramsey especially.
Both have not gotten a consistent run of games. They are our two most talented midfielders yet Emery is picking "hardwork and industry" over quality.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:35pm On Feb 03, 2019
daveP:
God bless you for this.


I am not defending iwobi, but lets be sincere, he and kola on that left wing have created 80% of the chances that were converted as goals. Remove these two from arsenal and you would have a championship team with two world class strikers that touch the ball less than 10times in 90mins. the whole arsenal midfield are waste.
Iwobi and Kolasinac has been Arsenal's driving force this season in terms of creating chances but people are just waiting for the boy to have a poor game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:36pm On Feb 03, 2019
Mickael2:
My point was never even bench him today or tomorrow, I already said long ago that Arsenal needs to buy actual wingers, however Suarez is a decent winger we will see what he can offer.

Arsenal's midfield isn't exactly crippled. Torreria is a guy that will run for 120 minutes and still run home from the stadium, Guendozi is a guy that can keep things ticking, his short passes are good and he recycles possession perfectly well. These two things are vital in any midfield. The problem with Arsenal is down to creativity and their defence.
These are defensive minded midfielders you mentioned, thats why i said the middle have serious issues that would get punished by big teams.


dunnow hich game it was in November, but Guen and Torreira with Niles kept passing the ball to each other at the halfline with othe opp team just sitting back and defending. They gave Arsenal a 73% ball possesion. just two of them!!!


I dont need such eyesore display when you should be cracking down defences instead of waiting for them to move a bad leg or make some school boy errors.


Thats my issue with this team. Iwobi would continue to be worshipped until another dribbler comes into the team. thats just it!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:38pm On Feb 03, 2019
tbaba1234:
In the last few games, Iwobi has consistently been amongst Arsenal's best player. Silence!!

One bad game and everyone comes with their daggers.

Last week, he changed the game for Arsenal, no comments. He was Arsenal's best player against Liverpool, silience.

The boy can not win.. Everyone is waiting for a mistake or a poor game to crucify him.
What did you expect after the club toyed with the fans emotions with their failed moves for Perisic and Carrasco?? There are fans who blame him for Ox leaving and even to the extent of claiming he was the reason Wenger didn't sign the likes of Draxler when he was available.
Iwobi himself needs to realize this is what it means to play for a big club.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:39pm On Feb 03, 2019
tbaba1234:
Iwobi is not an average player. He is above average.

If Ozil had made the pass that Iwobi gave to Kolasinac in the last game. We would not have heard the last of it.

The boy is good but he definitely has things to work on.
You are as good as your last match bro

Aside the Fulhams and Huddersfields, every body knows the true test of Arsenal was going to be this game and individuals are going to be assessed by this game

Iwobi dissapointed really
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:40pm On Feb 03, 2019
edi287:
Both have not gotten a consistent run of games. They are our two most talented midfielders yet Emery is picking "hardwork and industry" over quality.
What about last season, were they not starters, tell me there contributions. Ozil is earning 350k per week and he always get ridiculous excuses when big game is approaching. His body language at times is just.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:41pm On Feb 03, 2019
tbaba1234:
Iwobi and Kolasinac has been Arsenal's driving force this season in terms of creating chances but people are just waiting for the boy to have a poor game.
Dude a game against Blackpool and Fulham are not a game against Mancity
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:41pm On Feb 03, 2019
edi287:
That's the truth of the matter. Till Arsenal stops been stingy and spend big on a winger - Iwobi will keep getting games under Emery. Arsenal fans better get used to it.
Dude is still young and will improve.
All these tacticians that want finushed products sef. Why cant Iwobi be worked on? it beats me. why? at least to make fans know you are doing something really positive.


But Emery prefers to send beef and kill fish in the pitch when its not the sea. He may nit have the players, but he gats work on what he has. At least Wenger did that.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:43pm On Feb 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
You are as good as your last match bro

Aside the Fulhams and Huddersfields, every body knows the true test of Arsenal was going to be this game and individuals are going to be assessed by this game

Iwobi dissapointed really
Man city game? full test? I beg to disagree bro. Most arsenal fans already rules out arsenal's victory with those defensive injury crises.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:43pm On Feb 03, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:46pm On Feb 03, 2019
mostob:
Man city game? full test? I beg to disagree bro. Most arsenal fans already rules out arsenal's victory with those defensive injury crises.
I don't need to expantiate on what I already said
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:47pm On Feb 03, 2019
tbaba1234:
Iwobi and Kolasinac has been Arsenal's driving force this season in terms of creating chances but people are just waiting for the boy to have a poor game.
Thanks for this fact.


I dunno, but cant people see that its been long Arsenal drive right thru the middle that has midfielders to get a goal?

Its always Iwobi's left angle. always, and then the goal comes.


Kola had 3shots in the first half. more shots than Auba and laca combined.


This simply translates to a non existent midfield. Very non existent.



i wonder if arsenal fans would wake up and know that they cant continue to blame woes on this young boy that is the only dribbler in the team.


nobody sees the lazy body language of Aubamayang cos he is the top scorer.


Nobody sees the indecision of Guen when he reaches the box or way in his own half with only a defender behind him. No one would see that.


Torreira is running and running, thats all i see.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:47pm On Feb 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
Dude a game against Blackpool and Fulham are not a game against Mancity
Each game is worth only 3 points. Many players have not been showing up in these games.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:50pm On Feb 03, 2019
Earthquake1:
I don't need to expantiate on what I already said
ok
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:52pm On Feb 03, 2019
mostob:
I don't think Ozil can start any game again.Do you know why? Because he is lazy. With what you wrote above ,why doesn't Suarez get game time at barca?
Suarez used to get game time last season. But this season you have Malcolm and Coutinho as the first players of the bench, there is no way he is getting into that team. But his quality isn't the problem at all
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:54pm On Feb 03, 2019
Mickael2:
Suarez used to get game time last season. But this season you have Malcolm and Coutinho as the first players of the bench, there is no way he is getting into that team. But his quality isn't the problem at all
oh..OK sir. Never watch him before
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 9:03pm On Feb 03, 2019
mostob:
What about last season, were they not starters, tell me there contributions. Ozil is earning 350k per week and he always get ridiculous excuses when big game is approaching. His body language at times is just.....
Ozil admittedly fell off after he signed his new deal. Before that, he was one of our best players. Same with Ramsey too. Club is just punishing him for taking his time with that new deal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:05pm On Feb 03, 2019
edi287:
Ozil admittedly fell off after he signed his new deal. Before that, he was one of our best players. Same with Ramsey too. Club is just punishing him for taking his time with that new deal.
well...I don't think we would feel their absence of they both decided to leave
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 9:06pm On Feb 03, 2019
daveP:
All these tacticians that want finushed products sef. Why cant Iwobi be worked on? it beats me. why? at least to make fans know you are doing something really positive.


But Emery prefers to send beef and kill fish in the pitch when its not the sea. He may nit have the players, but he gats work on what he has. At least Wenger did that.
Forget Emery...dude himself doesn't like or know how to manage big players. Iwobi isn't leaving anytime soon anyway so all this talk is just pointless.
Sad thing is I don't see much of a difference between now and last season. This isn't what Wenger was sacked for...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 9:09pm On Feb 03, 2019
mostob:
well...I don't think we would feel their absence of they both decided to leave
Do you trust the club to replace those two adequately?? See the pipes Emery is getting linked to...Nkunku, etc.
I'd be disappointed if Denis Suarez ends up being Ramsey's replacement.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:12pm On Feb 03, 2019
edi287:
Do you trust the club to replace those two adequately?? See the pipes Emery is getting linked to...Nkunku, etc.
I'd be disappointed if Denis Suarez ends up being Ramsey's replacement.
I think we should wait till summer . Let's hope the owners get some sense by then.
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