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Deadlytruth:
I am still waiting for his response. Though I will really love to see him defend himself by now quoting one encyclopedia on what early Christians believed about body, soul and spirit.

Deadlytruth:
It has been addressed. What more do you want about it? meanwhile my outstanding poser remains unaddressed by you.

TATIME:
I'm sorry sir, my brains is just too slow to comprehend all these awful PERSONAL Opinions. When i hear intelligent individuals like you EFFICIENTLY criticizing a global group that's UNITEDLY moving towards the same direction ALWAYS! Ezekiel 1:12-14 compared to Revelations 14:1

Barristter07:
Don't panic or speculate unnecessarily

Relax already , Will surely reply just coming online .

Deadlytruth:
You can find help in Revelations 6:9-10 as below:

9. Then the Lamb broke open the fifth seal. I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been killed because they had proclaimed God's word and had been faithful in their witnessing.

10. They shouted in a loud voice, *Almighty Lord, holy and true! How long will it be until you judge the people on earth and punish them for killing us?*

That those souls could shout and ask questions tells you clearly that they had tongues to speak and also hands and all other features. So those who say it was the soul of the rich man that went to hell and cried out for help are very correct.
Oya respond now!

Barristter07:
Including the water they drank ? Tell if it's Physical or Spiritual water

I hope revelation won't complicate matters for yo


Tongue is made of flesh, Jesus said a spirit does not have flesh , so why do you assume they had a FLESHLY tongue ?

Secondly. The seals are not real , unless you mean stars can fall on earth . that alone makes your so called response FAKE

Deadlytruth:
I have already addressed it with Mathew 13. You have to counter it now. Why did Jesus not change fire in the parable to Hades or grave in his literal interpretation? Is this too much to ask?

Barristter07:

Don't waste your time, Christ use that illustration to explain the annihilation of the wicked.

Farm Weeds don't burn forever, they are destroyed.

A blow to hell teaching

Deadlytruth:
Jesus exorcised spirits while he was physically on earth. Some of those spirits themselves saw Him on one occasion and asked him whether he had already come to torment them. He spoke to the spirit and drove it out. Mark 1:21-27 Even though the spirit had no physical body, it could be tormented. So not only the physical body can feel torment. Both the soul and spirit can feel the pain of torment if subjected to it. What happened in the passage above was literal torment of that evil spirit.

You couldn't quote any single Bible reference to substantiate your claim that the seals were not real. the

Where exactly in the Bible did Jesus is that spirits don't have tongues?

Deadlytruth:
You are trying to change the narrative. We are not yet talking of the duration of the punishment

but of the nature of the fire whether real or figurative. Let us finish this first before going further.

Barristter07:
You see what that rich man and Lazarus story has caused you. You will keep struggling to defend this rubbish doctrine.


That water, physical or spiritual? this alone will expose the whole thing



Mark 1:24 - " Did you come to DESTROY us ? "

They are talking about their Destruction please



4th seal. - death rides. A horse while the grave follows it., how real is that to you?

6th seal - Many stars fall upon the earth , how real is that to you ?

Its an hypocrite that will now take the 5th seal as literal when he admit the above Re symbols - rev 1:1.
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Jesus said spirit does not have flesh ... What is tongue made of ?.

CAPTIVATOR:
Broz respond and define what U are asked

Barristter07:
Stop been scared, do what I ask you to do and the fact will emerge

Barristter07:
We are . you quoted that to prove hellfire which says sinners are burned forever. The narrative never support this satanic doctrine.

Barristter07:
Jesus talk about gnashing of teeth as well, Does that mean your immaterial spirit/soul have Bones ( Teeth ) ?

Barristter07:
When you don't read your Bible ,

Sanctified by the truth of Scripture - John 17:17



Strong Hypocrite.
Kindly answer the question pose by Captivator ?.
Approved Christians follow what the bible teach, not tossed about with various teachings

“ So we should no longer be children tossed about as by waves and carried here and there by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in deceptive schemes. 15 But speaking the truth [true teaching], let us by love grow up in all things into him who is the head, Christ” Ephesians 4;14.15

TRUE TEACHING IS ONE.

BUT your manipulated congregation is filled with conflicting and contradictory wind of teachings, o ma se o , see your life outside achorladey .



Hahahahaha. Just get the fact clear .



The point here is they are Christians, the name just like the way which 1st century Christians are known as help sincere persons know those adhering to scripture. Not those tossed about with various conflicting teachings


Poor understanding led to that question,

One ( unity) faith point to united teaching. That is they are all united in belief, just as Jesus prayed before he died.

One Lord point to Jesus the Christ

One God point to Jehovah, the God we worship


Stop talking nonsense like my friend captivator dey talk

That’s why preaching comes first, no one ever discuss the nonsense above with you or say people enter the congregation before knowing God and Jesus. Associating with Gods people comes after accurate knowledge of Christ and his Father.

Not some scattered entity like achorladey preaches but a united faith. In this congregation, some take the lead says the scripture , WHO ARE THOSE TAKING THE LEAD AMONG YOU ? scattered entity, tell us those who take the lead among your group? Are you now seeing first century Christians are well organized. Question tagged A7



I smell ignorance above, but I will pardon it. Tell us what IS THIS TRUTH that revolve around Jesus that the Christian congregation of Jehovahs witnesses don’t believe ?

Of course your scattered entities believe he didn’t die neither do they belief he isn’t equal to God. You have really found yourself in the mud. U went outside and get isolated, who are those taking the lead among you ?

Until you address this as well, you are an empty brass making noise


You are only trying to deceive yourself, by “brothers “ you know the context I mean, just decide to downplay it.
Jesus call those doing Gods will his brothers, but we know he started gathering them into a congregation ( he once invited a law abiding rich young man to follow him , but he didn’t) showing Gods will involve following Jesus and his direction through those taking the lead, as apostles and missionaries are sent out , congregations are formed.

So who are those brothers of yours with whom you do Gods will,? Who are those taking the lead among you ?

Barristter07:
Between That flesh and Spirit , Which is the real person of Jesus ? Question 1.

Barristter07: Well play ordinary body died BUT Jesus himself went to heaven to enjoy himself .

Barristter07: Well play again, You are confessing small small

So na body died ?

Jesus himself went preaching , SO JESUS HIMSELF WAS NEVER DEAD.

Barristter07: He said " I " have not yet ascended

I " is a personal pronoun for Jesus. Either bodily or not , He hasn't ascended. liar

If he has ascended, that statement means he lied.

So Jesus was lying to Mary Johnw74?

Where did he say I mean bodily ? Big time liar

Barristter07: Asiru TU . Lie exposed .

Jesus person is Spirit. . hmmm so that his body is just an ordinary carcass. The PERSON of Jesus has return to heaven , while its ordinary body that died


In short, Jesus never die cos his real person is Spirit .

johnw47: and that's what the person of the Word of God is, A Spirit

Barristter07: Asiru TU . Lie exposed .

Barristter07:
Jesus himself went to heaven to enjoy himself .









liar


Big time liar



Asiru TU . Lie exposed .

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmm you're RIGHT Christians are not zombies!
So Sule's followers can choose to ignore the admonition from their spiritual head.
Hmmmmmmm no wonder FELA looked at worldly uniformed men and labelled them "ZOMBIE" because they'll always stick to the last order they received from their superior officers.
Perhaps that's what being a soldier truthfully means!
Please can we rightly refer to those ZOMBIES as SOLDIERS OF CHRIST? Since the are unitedly following the LAST ORDER from superior officers.

Barristter07
: " I will declare your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you with song Hebrews 2:12

Achorladey: Nice, that's a very good thing to do and copy from our leader

Barrister07: Jesus gathered his brothers in HIS CONGREGATION. Christ isn't scattered or divided.

Achorladey: The only thing I need here is HIS CONGREGATION and not Christian Congregation of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES( which constitute part of those dividing Christ body except you remove the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION from your name or you refuse to be acknowledged as Christians). I hope you get the sense of it now.

Barristter07: Identify this congregation you belong , anyone can claim to be Christian, but what are their beliefs ?

Achorladey : I warned you previously and will repeat it again I AM NOT MAKING A CASE FOR ANYONE THAT "CLAIM" to be CHRISTIAN.

Are there ALAFENUJE JWs within your RANKS or not?

You want to sort out ALAFENUJE christians while you have ALAFENUJE JWs within your congregation? Are those ALAFENUJE Jws christians or NOT?

Barristter07: Jehovah's witnesses are Christians.

Achorladey: I thought they are PAGANS Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses before ni?

Barrister07: A .

Achorladey: Your response before selecting this option only proves your mind is playing with you. Is Christ's congregation anywhere stated as Jehovah's Witnesses Congregation. Is your name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES CONGREGATION. Your mind is playing tricks.

Barristter07: D means all mentioned are correct . BIG LIE

Achorladey: Just mention ONE CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION DENOMINATIONS all over the world that has all his teachings and doctrines 100% correct?

Barristter07: Regarding why " D " is a silly postulation to remain unserious, The NEW ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITTANICA SAYS " From the middle of the 2nd century AD Christians who had some training in Greek philosophy began to feel the need to express their faith in ITS TERM, both for their OWN intellectual satisfaction and in order to convert educated pagans"

Achorladey: Colossians 2:8 avoid being deceived by empty philosophies. ENCYCLOPEDIAS too do carry such philosophies? Yes/No. Except your ENCYCLOPEDIA came down from HEAVEN. Paul warning will be enough. Quoting Encyclopedia when you have the BIble.

Barristter07: So as at 1st century, there was one faith .... Beginning with second century and the death of the last apostle, Crisis began

Achorladey: Crisis began long before the death of the Apostles, Paul had issues with Peter you have forgotten, Acts 21: 20 - 25 (do you notice the fact that they believe PAUL was teaching APOSTASY FROM MOSES verse 21) is another flash point, Acts 15 another flash point.
Hymaenus and Philetus e. t. c. 2 Tim 2: 16-18

Dey use encyclopedia prove the rightness and wrongness of Bible.

Barristter07: Even this ones are identified as Christians despite their philosophical and unscriptural thoughts. But through their teachings we know they are not.

Achorladey: Going by your analogy, when James and the elders told Paul to carry out those ceremonial practices to show the Jewish Christian who are LAW zealots and who already tagged apostle Paul an APOSTATE that Paul is still a LAW KEEPER. It then follows that James and the Elders are not Christians by what they direct Paul to do abi?

Barristter07: Therefore, Achorladey, What are your beliefs and teachings?

Achorladey: In summary John 14:6.

Barristter07: U can't just use MOUTH to say u belong to Christian congregation,

Achorladey: Romans 10: 9, 10 If you declare with your MOUTH, "Jesus is Lord," and BELIEVE in your HEART that God raised him from the dead, you will be SAVED. For with the heart one believes and thus has righteousness and with the mouth one confesses and thus has salvation.

Oga Barristter07 am I a CHRISTIAN and am I part of the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION or not?

Barristter07: state what are your beliefs

Achorladey: You have the answer in summary before reading this.

Barristter07: and let's see if you don't belong to apostate Christianity or belong to those approved.

Achorladey: I never knew we can get approval from YOU the BARRISTTER07. It's a pity from the WHEAT and WEED illustration given by JESUS the master says otherwise. Sorry bro Mr APPROVAL of APOSTATE CHRISTIANITY and GENUINE CHRISTIANITY. Ta lo GBE ise leyin lowo? Why should I seek APPROVAL from MAN when I have the one JESUS.

John 3:18 where we read:
“He that exercises faith in him [Jesus] is not to be judged. He that does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.”

Barristter07: And you are well aware that by virtue of IMMORTAL SOUL PHILOSOPHY, Many of these religious leaders don't BELIEVE CHRIST DIED!

Achorladey: I will just leave you to continuously seek their understanding well enough on all of this, this I know you have done repeatedly in numerous thread on this platform, perhaps there is a chance you are not getting there perspective well enough.

One thing am CERTAIN of is many CHRISTIAN congregation DENOMINATIONS will TELL you and BELIEVE that Christ died for them and there members you (barristter07) see and hear them preach it everywhere they go. Even when you go out for your preaching activities and throw those questions directly to them: did Jesus DIED for THEM? did they respond using the IMMORTAL SOUL PHILOSOPHY to answer?

So Barristter07, MA pe le ti odo, you are looking at what they believe from the IMMORTAL SOUL PHILOSOPHY while these people in there hearts and Mouth confess and accept THAT JESUS CHRIST died for them.

But as for you who wants to pick out false doctrine

Are you aware of this......

(w12 3/15 p. 20 par. 2 Rejoicing in Our Hope)
The other sheep (those Jws classified as not going to heaven or have heavenly calling) should NEVER forget that THEIR SALVATION depends on their ACTIVE support of CHRIST'S ANOINTED “BROTHERS” still on earth. (Matt. 25:34-40)


Do you understand what this means as well?.......

w09 10/15 p. 15 par. 14 “You Are My Friends”
One way is to obey the DIRECTION provided by the faithful and discreet slave class, which consists of Jesus’ SPIRIT- ANOINTED brothers still alive on earth.

Who are these Faithful and Discreet slave class, they are THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

So, any other NON-JW CHRISTIAN on earth who puts FAITH in JESUS and OBEYS him as Lord has NO HOPE for SALVATION, because “their salvation depends on their active support of Christ’s anointed “brothers” still on earth.”

Do well to ask Barristter07 how such DIRECTIONS have been over the years as it relates to the teachings of the Governing body concerning WHEAT and WEED illustration given by Jesus.

Barristter07: Erin e n pami

Achorladey: Pele ti e

Barristter07: Am sure those are your brothers

Achorladey: In what way are you related to your Governing Body? Are you SPIRIT ANOINTED BROTHERS LIKE THEM or FLESHLY BROTHERS? Make we see how well you understand your calling as A CHRISTIAN?

I can equally ask, ARE those your brothers ?

Barristter07: So Jehovah's witnesses preach Governing Body?...

Achorladey: You only need to look Lesson 20 of the brochure "Who are doing Gods will Today", Lesson 14 of the brochure Good news from God and the numerous Watchtower study edition available.

Barristter07: Who did they preach?

Achorladey: Who did those lessons highlighted in those brochures preach and teach about?

Barristter07: Show me one single publication where it's stated that governing body is the head of the Christian congregation I BELONGED.

Achorladey: The image attached to this post gotten from a recent Watchtower study edition says it all.

After looking at the picture, why is the GOVERNING BODY outside the CONGREGATION? Where is Jesus in the Earthly part? Is JESUS head of the Christian congregation only in HEAVEN?

Barristter07: I demand an answer

Achorladey: You have it already

Barristter07: or be shown a LIAR

Achorladey: I know have not seen the last of "lacking comprehension or knowing more than those that taught you", it's now LIAR oga LIE DETECTOR.

Deadlytruth:
Very irrelevant references as usual. So your organization is now made up of only 144,000 members rather than the over 8 million you have been beating your chest about? Your organization is now the group of four winged creatures from above which the Sound of God gave a message to Ezikiel to deliver? You people have been claiming to be the prophets of today. But your reference connotes that you gave the message to the prophet. So which do we believe now? Confused victims of manipulation.

Hairyrapunzel:
Suleiman says he doesn't agree with using phone to read his bible while Chris says he will use.
Paul and Barnabas even disagreed in the Bible
Acts 15:36-41
36 Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, “Let us go back and visit the believers in all the towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing.” 37 Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, 38 but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. 39 They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, 40 but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord. 41 He went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.

Normal humans are not zombies or robots. You can't force people to agree with your personal opinion about issues. Bible never said Paul and Barnabas after the disagreement caused disunity.
You think every Christian is a zombie abi?

TATIME:
Why do you always get furious each time you see comments that's pointing directly to what others has in mind?
Well it's like God's heavenly organization and their earthly followers are united in purpose so wherever the spiritual Jews{144,000} goes,their earthly subjects follows! Rev 14:1 compared to Zechariah 8:23
That's why our activities is unpredictable,even if you are a member of our organization today and fail to follow all our programs,you can't understand what we'll be doing in a months time! Matthew 10:9,10 compared to Luke 22:35-38

achorladey:
Barristter07: When you don't read your Bible,

Achorladey: Where will you have me start the reading from?

Barristter07: Sanctified by the truth of Scripture - John 17:17

Achorladey: hahahahahaha so other Christian denominations are not sanctified by the truth of the scriptures because they preach and teach satanic doctrines like your friend CAPTIVATOR said which includes TRINITY, IMMORTAL SOUL, HELL FIRE. Hahahahahaha.


Barristter07: Strong Hypocrite.

Achorladey: Last response was to prove ME to be a LIAR, this one is to show that am a STRONG HYPOCRITE, your adjectives never finish abi?

Barristtrer07: Kindly answer the question pose by Captivator?

Achorladey: Not only have I responded to his post you can also tap from the questions posed there to see how the Jws have 100% SANCTIFIED TRUTH.


Barristter07: Approved Christians follow what the bible teach, not tossed about with various teachings

Achorladey: Questions From Readers


Whom do the man with the secretary’s inkhorn and the six men with smashing weapons described in Ezekiel’s vision symbolize?


In the PAST, WE(GOVERNING BODY) HAVE EXPLAINED that in the MODERN-DAY fulfillment of this vision, the MAN with the SECRETARY’S INKHORN represented the ANOINTED REMNANT. It was thought that those who respond favorably to the message being preached are now marked for survival. In RECENT YEARS, HOWEVER, it HAS become CLEAR that an ADJUSTMENT needs to be made to this EXPLANATION. According to what is stated at
Matthew 25:31-33 , JESUS is the one who JUDGES PEOPLE. He makes his final judgment during the time of the great tribulation, separating the sheeplike ones, who will survive, from the goatlike ones, who will be destroyed.

Oga Barristter07, what is not Clear from the EYES and MIND of the first century Christians up till our day including all other CHRISTIANS DENOMINATIONS apart from Jws the that JESUS is the ONE WHO JUDGES?

Your governing body were comfortably sitting on Jesus seat marking those that will survive and those that will not like the Pharisees did on SEAT of MOSES.

Now you know who the STRONG HYPOCRITE is?

Barristter07: “So we should no longer be children tossed about as by waves and carried here and there by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in deceptive schemes. 15 But speaking the truth [true teaching], let us by love grow up in all things into him who is the head, Christ” Ephesians 4;14.15

Achorladey: Now you know who needs the scriptures you cited ABOVE. Ta lo gbe ise idajo leyin lowo tele? Jesu tabi Esu?

Barristter07: TRUE TEACHING IS ONE.

Achorladey: The TRUE TEACHING accustomed to your Christian Congregation of Jehovah's witnesses has shown to NOT be ONE with that contained in the words of JESUS Christ and the Bible on many occasions. Check the one of many reference point above.

Barristter07: BUT your manipulated congregation is filled with conflicting and contradictory wind of teachings, o ma se o , see your life outside achorladey.

Achorladey: With what I cited above I can also say your MANIPULATED CONGREGATION( Christian congregation of Jehovah's witnesses) is filled with CONFLICTING and CONTRADICTORY WIND OF CHANGE( just read that material on how the wind of change gets blown by the GB),

Pele tie Barristter07, see your life inside "Jehovah's organization". hahahahahahaha

Anointed remnants and the inkhorn judging and marking people shiooooooor.

Barristter07: Hahahahaha. Just get the fact clear.

Achorladey: The fact you are getting across is that your Christian denominations called "Christian congregation of Jehovah's witnesses" is not different from every other one available.

Barristter07: The point here is they are Christians,

Achorladey: as if I thought Jws are PAGANS.

Barristter07: the name just like the way which 1st century Christians are known

Achorladey: You should have called yourselves Jehovah's witnesses only and also state in front of those you preach to that you don't want to be known as Christians and see how they will quote 1 John 2:19 for you.


Barristter07: as help sincere persons know those adhering to scripture.

When Apostle Peter was busy pretending, was he a sincere christian or not.

Barristter07: Not those tossed about with various conflicting teachings

Achorladey: That Paul made mention of that in his letter to the Ephesians is an indicator it was happening already, the Christians of that era suffered from that conundrum, it's a pity adherents of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are CULPRIT and suffer such TOSSING and CONFLICTING TEACHINGS and DOCTRINES from their GOVERNING BODY.


Barristter07: Poor understanding led to that question,

Achorladey: From STRONG hypocrite to POOR understanding, I go learn adjectives from you tire. hahahahah

Barristter07: One ( unity) faith point to united teaching. That is they are all united in belief, just as Jesus prayed before he died.

Achorladey: You cited Galatians 6:10 and you don't understand the ONE FAITH that makes us all related. SMH! SMH!! SMH!!

Galatians 3: 23 - 29

But before FAITH came, we were kept under the LAW, shut up unto the FAITH which SHOULD afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faTith is COME, we are no longer under a SCHOOLMASTER.

26 For ye are all the CHILDREN of GOD by FAITH in CHRIST Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST have put on CHRIST. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all ONE in CHRIST JESUS. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Imagine, the answer found in Galatians later ask me to go and START READING BIBLE.

Barristter07: One Lord point to Jesus the Christ.One God point to Jehovah, the God we worship.

Achorladey: Has no correlation with the questions asked. I didn't ask you who is the ONE LORD or ONE GOD. The question was about ONE FAITH that connects us all.

Something interesting about your beliefs here is that YOU barristter07 cannot even call yourself son or children of GOD except you are among the ("anointed Christians"Romans 8:16 PALAVER)those that have such privilege does not include THE OTHER SHEEP PALAVER your denomination preach. Another doctrine that contradicts the word of God.



Barristter07: Stop talking nonsense like my friend captivator dey talk

Achorladey: Don't worry you and CAPTIVATOR will have made many sense out of the NONSENSE.

barristter07: That’s why preaching comes first, no one ever discuss the nonsense above with you or say people enter the congregation before knowing God and Jesus. Associating with Gods people comes after accurate knowledge of Christ and his Father.

Achorladey: you were trying to tell me that to WALK in the TRUTH one needs to recognise the PILLAR and SUPPORT of the TRUTH the reason I refer you back to the TRUTH. When we know the truth we not only recognize the pillar and support we ourselves become its pillar and support.

Barrisstter07: Not some scattered entity like achorladey preaches but a united faith.

Achorladey: Bring out the scattered entity I Achorladey preached about. I only hope those ENTITY are not the Christian congregation denominations?


Barristter07: In THIS CONGREGATION, some take the lead says the scripture,

Achorladey: This congregation meaning the Christian congregation has only one LEADER the Christ. You agree or not? I can gladly tell you I am under his LEADERSHIP. Any other person that has been asked to lead or have the mindset of LEADING serve as SERVANTS of others Matthew 20:26 and not as those making themselves GOVERNORS over people's faith up till the extent of stating that the SALVATION of those they LEAD depends on them. I don't come under such leadership.



FYI there are [b] many amidst us in the Christian congregation that do take the the lead when the need applies Matthew 20:26, they have no single name of specialty apply to themselves [/b] .

Barristter07: WHO ARE THOSE TAKING THE LEAD AMONG YOU?

Achorladey: Answered already!

Barristter07: scattered entity,

Achorladey: scattered entity is the next adjective, more please.

Barristter07: tell us those who take the lead among your group?

Achorladey:You must have seen the response you seek.

Barristter07: Are you now seeing first century Christians are well organized.

Achorladey: 1 Corinthians 5:7 For we live by Faith not by sight and I believe Christ has been with his disciples as promised in Matthew 28: 18-20 even those times your organization believed Christianity became non existent. Consult your publications for more on that, during those times do you believe Christ disciples were SCATTERED ENTITY?

Barristter07: I smell ignorance above, but I will pardon it.

Achorladey: Oga LIE DETECTOR becomes IGNORANCE DETECTOR. All those points highlighted previously that you ignore nko?

Barristter07: Tell us what IS THIS TRUTH that revolve around Jesus that the Christian congregation of Jehovahs witnesses don’t believe?

Achorladey: Your organization is the PILLAR and SUPPORT of the truth na. How can someone talking NONSENSE tell you JWS the truth the greatest CUSTODIAN and GUARDIANS of Doctrines and Truth. SMH.

FYI the A to Z of the scriptures is linked to who including the law and the prophets?



Barristter07: Of course your scattered entities believe he didn’t die neither do they belief he isn’t equal to God.

Achorladey: When you go for the next preaching activities of yours, ask the householder DID JESUS DIE FOR YOU. Bring the response back to this platform.

Let me ask you this question? Is Jesus God?


Barristter07: You have really found yourself in the mud.

Achorladey: Hahahahaha after taking closer look at the conversation above, you should start checking those part of your doctrines pasted with mud.

Barristter07: U went outside and get isolated,

Achorladey: Where do you know am coming from? The one with Christ is Isolated in your mindset bah? Paul suffered loneliness yet he never felt the absence of Christ. I walk by faith not by sight.

Barristter07: who are those taking the lead among you?

Achorladey: The way you have asked the question really shows how the SALVATION of JWS depends on THOSE taking the LEAD in there MIDST. Response to this done already.

Barristter07: Until you address this as well, you are an empty brass making noise.

Achorladey: the empty BRASS that thought you the FAITH relating us together is JESUS CHRIST. Who needs your recommendation or approval when Christ servants are encouraged to continually recommended themselves as GOD'S MINISTERS in EVERY WAY 2 Cor 6:4


Barristter07: You are only trying to deceive yourself,

Achorladey: Wallow in your remarks,

Barristters07: by“brothers “ you know the context I mean, just decide to downplay it.

Achorladey: Are JESUS brothers your brothers, sisters and mothers?

In line with your BELIEFS can you be called Jesus' brothers? Let me see how well you understand your beliefs.

Barristter07: Jesus call those doing Gods will his brothers,

Achorladey: I thought Jesus called those doing Satan will his brother ni? You are aware of the above and you are asking me who are my brothers. Lo ba Jesus fa lorun.

Barristter07: but we know he started gathering them into a congregation

Achorladey: Did gathering them into congregation make them another set of BROTHERS or CHRISTIANS?

Barristter07: ( he once invited a law abiding rich young man to follow him , but he didn’t) showing Gods will involve following Jesus

Achorladey: That's is why those disciples following Jesus who complained about some men doing powerful works in Jesus name will never be rebuked by our LEADER and master. You know why? The main thing relating those men with Jesus disciples is the FAITH and with that FAITH who is Jesus himself those men DID miracles some of which Christ disciples were struggling to perform before Christ death.


Barristter07: and his direction through those taking the lead, as apostles and missionaries are sent out , congregations are formed.

Achorladey: Did you see how I detached the above from the other comment, you want to compare Christ direction with the DIRECTION of men that makes errors and mistakes. Won ko jo ara won.

When your GOVERNING BODY admits they make mistakes in DOCTRINES and ORGANNIZATION DIRECTION. From your comment above do you accept that Jesus and the Holy Spirit is involved in such mistakes? because those directions came through Jesus. Shioooooor!

What congregations are formed by the apostles and missionaries Oga Barristter07?

Christian congregation of Peter
Christian congregation of Paul
Christian congregation of John
Christian congregation of Jehovah's witnesses
Christian congregation.

Which one?

Barristter07: So who are those brothers of yours with whom you do Gods will?

Achorladey: Are you Barristter07 my brother? Hahahahahahaha.

Barristter07: Who are those taking the lead among you?

Achorladey: Repeated question. Answered.

Deadlytruth:
This is that 'satanic' doctrine here:
Mark 9: 43-44. So if your hand makes you lose your faith, cut it off ! It is better for you to enter life without a hand than to keep both hands and go off to hell, to the fire that never goes out.

Why do you love moving in circles? Immaterial souls spoke in Revelations as you have already been shown. You have been shown where in Mark a spirit saw Jesus in the physical and pleaded with Him not to torture it.... meaning spirits feel torture even though they lack physical bodies. If you think God doesn't have the power to create immaterial entities that can speak without tongues , and feel torture without having bodies, then you don't yet know what God's omnipotence means. It is just like how a moslem believes that God can't have a Son without having had sex with Mary yet he claims to believe in God's omnipotence. Can you see that you are not really different from moslems?

Deadlytruth:
An organization that keeps predicting the time the world would end in open defiance to Jesus' own words that no one knows the hour of His coming can't just be an organization of God. This is very simple logic. Forget about all these cock and bull stories you are trying in vain to substantiate with these unconnected Bible references.

Barristter07:
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Greek Gehenna ( a refuse dump)

Refuse thrown into Gehenna DO NOT BURN FOREVER. Jesus is talking about annihilation of the wicked

Oh, hell ... So HUMAN HANDS now Go to this imaginary hell? please how many corpse had disappeared to hell with both hands ? Tagged B1. Respond.



The bold is not the issue here, The MAN has TONGUE ( A Flesh ) , do Spirit have flesh ?

B2#

TATIME:
Jesus was talking to His FAITHFUL followers who are ever bent on ascertaining the times and season of His coming. Matthew 24:1-4 compared to Act 1:6-9
So any organization of worshippers earnestly making research on Jesus' coming must be having the same attribute as those His first century followers!

Deadlytruth:
Ascertaining the times and seasons is different from predicting the specific date and hour. While Jesus Himself gave clues on the times and seasons, he forbade predictions of the specific date and hour. See it here:
Matthew 24:36..... No one knows, however, when that day and hour will come---neither the angels in heaven nor the Son; the Father alone knows.

But your organization keeps calculating and trying to guess that day and hour. And you believe it is God's organization?

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmm you're MISTAKING Sir, Jesus DID NOT FORBID His followers from calculating and trying to ascertain the times!
He encouraged them to "keep on the watch". Matthew 24:42,26:41
If you examine the activities of the WATCHMEN of ancient times you'll realise that they always raise alarm at the sight of anything approaching!
So for JWs to keep telling themselves about times and seasons of Jesus' coming is a sign that that is what matters MOST to them.
Whoever is not comfortable with their guessing is FREE to abandon them and their form of worship, but i don't think Jesus condemned His faithful followers for being always concerned about the times and seasons of His coming!

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmm you're MISTAKING Sir, Jesus DID NOT FORBID His followers from calculating and trying to ascertain the times!
He encouraged them to "keep on the watch". Matthew 24:42,26:41
If you examine the activities of the WATCHMEN of ancient times you'll realise that they always raise alarm at the sight of anything approaching!
So for JWs to keep telling themselves about times and seasons of Jesus' coming is a sign that that is what matters MOST to them.
Whoever is not comfortable with their guessing is FREE to abandon them and their form of worship, but i don't think Jesus condemned His faithful followers for being always concerned about the times and seasons of His coming!